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Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
We can't have a concept we haven't had yet We need more cats, dogs, birds, and/or furbait
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
I don't even see why people act as if this is new. Voltorb and Electrode are just bombs, grimer and muk are just piles of sludge, magnemite and magneton are just a few pieces of metal.
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Hirokey123 posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
I don't even see why people act as if this is new. Voltorb and Electrode are just bombs, grimer and muk are just piles of sludge, magnemite and magneton are just a few pieces of metal.
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tfw there are still people that legitimately think the Vanillite line is literal ice cream
lul
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
there is when you literally just slap eyes on a gear and and call it a pokemon then draw the same gear twice and call it another pokemon the do it again becaue you gotta hit that magic number 150 you strawman the common argument against quantity over quality as "all inanimate objects are bad" when in actuality it is "a random object with eyes slapped on and literally nothing else is bad"
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Hirokey123 posted...
I don't even see why people act as if this is new. Voltorb and Electrode are just bombs
itp not knowing what a mimic is though i will agree voltorb unnecessarily evolving into a bigger version of itself is lazy Hirokey123 posted...
grimer and muk are just piles of sludge
itp slimes are common household objects Hirokey123 posted...
magnemite and magneton are just a few pieces of metal.
ive yet to see any piece of metal that looks like magnemite
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
there is when you literally just slap eyes on a geat and amd call it a pokemon
then draw the same gear twice and call it another pokemon
the do it again becaue you gotta hit that magic number 150
you strawman the common argument against quantity over quality as "all inanimate objects are bad" when in actuality it is "a random object with eyes slapped on and literally nothing else is bad"
Substitute gear with random pieces of metal and you just described magnemite's line. Which is what Klink Klang's line is meant to be following the skeleton of.
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DRulerLightning posted...
still more than anything from bw
and the plaza is objectively better than avenue in every single way
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i should totally take le hardcore mons player man seriously
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Hirokey123 posted...
Substitute gear with random pieces of metal and you just described magnemite's line.
but thats f***ing wrong, magnemite is composed of magnets arranged in an original fashion; creative input was required to make the design if magnemite was just a magnet with an eye slapped on i would agree, but it isnt PkmTrainerAbram posted...
PFTHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh harder.
PFHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.
i couldnt help but notice there arent any arguments in this post
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Hirokey123 posted...
MegaMewtwoX posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
there is when you literally just slap eyes on a geat and amd call it a pokemon
then draw the same gear twice and call it another pokemon
the do it again becaue you gotta hit that magic number 150
you strawman the common argument against quantity over quality as "all inanimate objects are bad" when in actuality it is "a random object with eyes slapped on and literally nothing else is bad"
Substitute gear with random pieces of metal and you just described magnemite's line. Which is what Klink Klang's line is meant to be following the skeleton of.
I would agree with you on the first 2 stages, but then Magneton takes a rather drastic change into a UFO thing with Magnezone. If Klinklang turned into something more interesting than just itself with a floating red gear surrounded by a ring, people wouldn't give it so much flak.
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
Hirokey123 posted...
I don't even see why people act as if this is new. Voltorb and Electrode are just bombs
itp not knowing what a mimic is
though i will agree voltorb unnecessarily evolving into a bigger version of itself is lazy
Hirokey123 posted...
grimer and muk are just piles of sludge
itp slimes are common household objects
Hirokey123 posted...
magnemite and magneton are just a few pieces of metal.
ive yet to see any piece of metal that looks like magnemite
I know what a mimic is doesn't matter Voltorb is still a line of inanimate objects with eyes slapped onto them, the ice cream and trashbag pokemon are both at least are designed with some semblance of creativity. The ice cream for example isn't ice cream at all it's a pile of living snow and ice with the ice frozen to give the illusion of a cone, straw, and toppings. Making it more like a combination snow and ice sculpture. Slime is inanimate you never specified it needed to be common so nice goal post shifting. But fun fact slime, muck, and grime ARE a common thing found in homes. Typically in homes that neglect to do things like properly cleaning their drains and/or gutters. You've never seen a magnet, some screws, and a steel ball? http://flamencogypsy.com/wp-content/uploads/Magnet.jpghttps://is.alicdn.com/img/pb/922/866/313/313866922_152.jpghttps://cdn.mscdirect.com/global/images/ProductImages/0808790-23.jpgabcDSBT posted...
I would agree with you on the first 2 stages, but then Magneton takes a rather drastic change into a UFO thing with Magnezone. If Klinklang turned into something more interesting than just itself with a floating red gear surrounded by a ring, people wouldn't give it so much flak.
People still would because at the end of the day it's not about it being more or less creative it's about it coming later and ignoring that this has been a trend with pokemon since day 1. However I do agree that magnezone is actually a bit more creative in that it upgraded the steel ball with screws to a basic ufo and wasn't just one or two more magnemite stuck together.
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The Klink evo line is fine. You have gears that evolve into a more complex machine.
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sounds like it's gonna be awesome
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DRulerLightning posted...
i should totally take le hardcore mons player man seriously
Oh, did I touch a nerve? i couldnt help but notice there arent any arguments in this postI really need to argue something so common sense that anyone over the mental age of 12 knows instinctively is full of Muk..
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Hirokey123 posted...
the ice cream and trashbag pokemon are both at least are designed with some semblance of creativity. The ice cream for example isn't ice cream at all it's a pile of living snow and ice with the ice frozen to give the illusion of a cone, straw, and toppings. Making it more like a combination snow and ice sculpture.
thats a f***ing garbage copout on par with saying the anchor is not a lazy design because its pokedex flavor text has a copout for the design too Hirokey123 posted...
Slime is inanimate you never specified it needed to be common so nice goal post shifting. But fun fact slime, muck, and grime IS a common thing found in homes. Typically in homes that neglect to do things like properly cleaning their drains and/or gutters.
if you can show me an image of an inanimate object that looks like grimer/muk without the face i shall concede but you cant Hirokey123 posted...
http://flamencogypsy.com/wp-content/uploads/Magnet.jpg
this is not magnemite, thats like posting a picture of an arm and saying its a person Hirokey123 posted...
https://is.alicdn.com/img/pb/922/866/313/313866922_152.jpg
this is not magnemite, thats like posting a picture of an arm and saying its a person Hirokey123 posted...
https://cdn.mscdirect.com/global/images/ProductImages/0808790-23.jpg
this is not magnemite, thats like posting a picture of an arm and saying its a person
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Arn544 posted...
that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon
there is literally nothing wrong with having inanimate objects as Pokemon
Speaking of which, if you want to, you can check this video out listing every Pokémon based on inanimate objects and which Gen has the most of them:
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DracoSpire posted...
Speaking of which, if you want to, you can check this video out listing every Pokémon based on inanimate objects and which Gen has the most of them:
It's Gen 5 closely followed by Gen 1 last I checked
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Lexifox posted...
The Klink evo line is fine. You have gears that evolve into a more complex machine.
no, you have gears that evolve into identical gears with the same name, which then evolves again into identical gears with the same name PkmTrainerAbram posted...
I really need to argue something so common sense that anyone over the mental age of 12 knows instinctively is full of Muk..
there are no arguments in this post either no true scotsman etc
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people still in denial plaza is the same thing as avenue but better in 2017 lul
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usuratonkachi posted...
it's a good thing all those forms they gave us instead in gens 6 and 7 were the pinnacle of design
With the exception of Hoenn->Sinnoh, when the number of mons added increases from the previous gen the average quality goes down, and vice versa. Can't be assed to format the numbers right now but numerous methods support this.
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Magnemite is a pair of horseshoe magnets, a giant ball bearing, and three large screws (one of which self-drives based on Magnemite's level of activity, presumably to rotate the magnets) that have somehow come together to create a lifeform. It's specifically stated to spin these magnets to produce electromagnetic waves powerful enough to defy gravity, is attracted to foreign electromagnetic waves, feeds on electricity, and together these traits result in Magnemite swarming to wireless technology and power transmission equipment where three of them become inseparably attracted to the point of becoming a new Pokemon and eventually fuse into yet another Pokemon because of strong electromagnetic fields. Klink is literally just a pair of gears, add one or two randomly-appearing gears per evo. 
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I expect this game to have one region with 200ish pokemon from all gens with DLC to come...I don't want just the handheld games imagined on the Switch. I want something special.
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CloverKitten posted...
Magnemite is a pair of horseshoe magnets, a giant ball bearing, and three large screws (one of which self-drives based on Magnemite's level of activity, presumably to rotate the magnets) that have somehow come together to create a lifeform. It's specifically stated to spin these magnets to produce electromagnetic waves powerful enough to defy gravity, is attracted to foreign electromagnetic waves, feeds on electricity, and together these traits result in Magnemite swarming to wireless technology and power transmission equipment where three of them become inseparably attracted to the point of becoming a new Pokemon and eventually fuse into yet another Pokemon because of strong electromagnetic fields.
Klink is literally just a pair of gears, add one or two randomly-appearing gears per evo.
simple designs > overcomplicated overdesigned digimon
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simple =/= lazy clever =/= complicated
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CloverKitten posted...
Magnemite is a pair of horseshoe magnets, a giant ball bearing, and three large screws (one of which self-drives based on Magnemite's level of activity, presumably to rotate the magnets) that have somehow come together to create a lifeform. It's specifically stated to spin these magnets to produce electromagnetic waves powerful enough to defy gravity, is attracted to foreign electromagnetic waves, feeds on electricity, and together these traits result in Magnemite swarming to wireless technology and power transmission equipment where three of them become inseparably attracted to the point of becoming a new Pokemon and eventually fuse into yet another Pokemon because of strong electromagnetic fields.
Klink is literally just a pair of gears, add one or two randomly-appearing gears per evo.
Nice trying to downplay Klink. Klink is two separate mini gears that are born in predetermined pairs. If you try to bring mini-gears that don't mesh together they rebound off one another. If you bring two mini gears that do mesh then they become interlocked by the energy generated from their rotation. It's this energy that feeds them and keeps them alive. At evolution one of the mini-gears becomes larger and the rotation becomes more powerful enabling them to produce more energy and communicate their feelings through controlled rotation adjustments. It is now capable of launching its mini-gear component in form of various attacks however without the minigear the rotation will stop and it will no longer produce the energy that keeps it alive, so it's dangerous if the gear doesn't come back. At its final stage it produces one more gear to act as an energy tank allowing it to now rapidly produce and store energy, instead of the passive energy producing it did to feed. The third gear has spikes because they act as a way to channel and focus the new energy into an attack. In short it's a pokemon based on kinetic energy, it's gears that are held together by shape and kinetic energy and as it evolves the amount of energy it produces increases and it begins to be able to manipulate the energy and its own rotation more and more.
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Hirokey123 posted...
Nice trying to downplay Klink. Klink is two separate mini gears that are born in predetermined pairs. If you try to bring mini-gears that don't mesh together they rebound off one another. If you bring two mini gears that do mesh then they become interlocked by the energy generated from their rotation. It's this energy that feeds them and keeps them alive. At evolution one of the mini-gears becomes larger and the rotation becomes more powerful enabling them to produce more energy and communicate their feelings through controlled rotation adjustments. It is now capable of launching its mini-gear component in form of various attacks however without the minigear the rotation will stop and it will no longer produce the energy that keeps it alive, so it's dangerous if the gear doesn't come back. At its final stage it produces one more gear to act as an energy tank allowing it to now rapidly produce and store energy, instead of the passive energy producing it did to feed. The third gear has spikes because they act as a way to channel and focus the new energy into an attack.
In short it's a pokemon based on kinetic energy, it's gears that are held together by shape and kinetic energy and as it evolves the amount of energy it produces increases and it begins to be able to manipulate the energy and its own rotation more and more.
your s***ty little headcanon does not even attempt to defend the fact that the design is literally just f***ing gears sad!
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
Hirokey123 posted...
Nice trying to downplay Klink. Klink is two separate mini gears that are born in predetermined pairs. If you try to bring mini-gears that don't mesh together they rebound off one another. If you bring two mini gears that do mesh then they become interlocked by the energy generated from their rotation. It's this energy that feeds them and keeps them alive. At evolution one of the mini-gears becomes larger and the rotation becomes more powerful enabling them to produce more energy and communicate their feelings through controlled rotation adjustments. It is now capable of launching its mini-gear component in form of various attacks however without the minigear the rotation will stop and it will no longer produce the energy that keeps it alive, so it's dangerous if the gear doesn't come back. At its final stage it produces one more gear to act as an energy tank allowing it to now rapidly produce and store energy, instead of the passive energy producing it did to feed. The third gear has spikes because they act as a way to channel and focus the new energy into an attack.
In short it's a pokemon based on kinetic energy, it's gears that are held together by shape and kinetic energy and as it evolves the amount of energy it produces increases and it begins to be able to manipulate the energy and its own rotation more and more.
your s***ty little headcanon does not even attempt to defend the fact that the design is literally just f***ing gears
sad!
Information from the pokedex=/=headcanon
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why are genwhinners the only ones that get so butthurt when someone says a design is s*** lul
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no, you're posting random bulls*** in a pathetic contrarian attempt to defend what is the s***tiest, laziest design in the entire series
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I hope they have main game on both 3ds and switch for at least gen 8
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grape89 posted...
I hope they have main game on both 3ds and switch for at least gen 8
You sure that's wise? A $40 game with free online versus $300 for a Switch (unless you've bought one already), $60 for the game itself, and $4-20 for online capabilities.
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
no, you're posting random bulls*** in a pathetic contrarian attempt to defend what is the s***tiest, laziest design in the entire series
Just playing devil's advocate here, but he DID get all that info from the dex entries. Klink: Black The two minigears that mesh together are predetermined. Each will rebound from other minigears without meshing.
White Interlocking two bodies and spinning around generates the energy they need to live.
Black/White 2 Two bodies comprise a fixed pair. They spin around each other to generate energy.Klang: Black By changing the direction in which it rotates, it communicates its feelings to others. When angry, it rotates faster.
White Spinning minigears are rotated at high speed and repeatedly fired away. It is dangerous if the gears don't return.
Black/White 2 A minigear and big gear comprise its body. If the minigear it launches at a foe doesn't return, it will die.Klinklang: Black Its red core functions as an energy tank. It fires the charged energy through its spikes into an area.
White The gear with the red core is rotated at high speed for a rapid energy charge.
Black/White 2 The minigear spins at high speed. Then the energy from the red core charges the minigear to make it ready to fire.
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all of them are saying pretty much the same f***ing thing lul
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grape89 posted...
I hope they have main game on both 3ds and switch for at least gen 8
it would be hard unless it was a light version they have a lot more room for graphics and opening the screen more on the switch plus they'd have to add the 2nd screen on the DS, its better for the game as a whole if it only comes out for the switch since the consoles are so different.
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Gamefreak is an incompetent developer
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abcDSBT posted...
Just playing devil's advocate here, but he DID get all that info from the dex entries.
You need to brush up on your Pokedex->reality translation skills, here's what they actually say. Klink: Black: We at GameFreak feel we must apologize for this "Pokemon".
White: We were told by Masuda at the last second that we needed to make a pure-Steel design.
Black/White 2: We slapped eyes on a pair of f***ing gears out of spite.Klang: Black: To our surprise, Masuda said he wanted us to expand the design into a family.
White: We took the eyes off one of the gears and slapped on a bigger gear, Masuda asked how that worked.
Black/White 2: Tired of his bulls***, we opened a videogame mad lib and randomly inserted synonyms for "spin" and "kinetic energy" everywhere we could.Klinklang: Black: Eyes glossed over in ego-inflating pseudo-science, Masuda asked for yet another f***ing design.
White: Wanting to cut ourselves at this point, we incorporated our frustration by adding a spiky gear.
Black/White 2: Oh god what have we done. We swear we never thought these pieces of s*** would make it into the game.
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Well Watson, this is troubling
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What a Developer says: "No, we're not making a 500 hour long story rpg with 4k graphics on our portable console. Keep your expectations in check." What Gamefaqs hears: "UH... YEAH GUYS. OUR GAMES GUNNA SUCK, SRY.
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After watching the interview, it seems like they intend it to be open world...
Fan post: I want an open world game where the whole premise is gotta catch em all.
Devs: We're making it now!
It sounded like they felt really pressured by fan expectations.
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Agent_Xoa posted...
What a Developer says: "No, we're not making a 500 hour long story rpg with 4k graphics on our portable console. Keep your expectations in check."
Source?
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Etria posted...
After watching the interview, it seems like they intend it to be open world...
Fan post: I want an open world game where the whole premise is gotta catch em all.
Devs: We're making it now!
It sounded like they felt really pressured by fan expectations.
We don't need an open world format, but it is about time we had a console Pokemon. Even in a similar world style to FF12 would be great
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Lexifox posted...
CloverKitten posted...
Magnemite is a pair of horseshoe magnets, a giant ball bearing, and three large screws (one of which self-drives based on Magnemite's level of activity, presumably to rotate the magnets) that have somehow come together to create a lifeform. It's specifically stated to spin these magnets to produce electromagnetic waves powerful enough to defy gravity, is attracted to foreign electromagnetic waves, feeds on electricity, and together these traits result in Magnemite swarming to wireless technology and power transmission equipment where three of them become inseparably attracted to the point of becoming a new Pokemon and eventually fuse into yet another Pokemon because of strong electromagnetic fields.
Klink is literally just a pair of gears, add one or two randomly-appearing gears per evo.
simple designs > overcomplicated overdesigned digimon
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and random flavor text does not make the laziest design in the entire franchise any less terrible
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usuratonkachi posted...
lol. i can only imagine how difficult making a new game on a new system would be for devs as incompetent as gamefreak
Pretty much this.
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Nabinator posted...
Agent_Xoa posted...
What a Developer says: "No, we're not making a 500 hour long story rpg with 4k graphics on our portable console. Keep your expectations in check."
Source?
They kinda joked about the length of the game and that it might not being as long as that fan wanted. 40+ hours is a fair amount longer than the main story in most Pokemon games, and now that they need to do much more work on building a much better looking world than in the past it might not be possible.
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Wow people actually criticizing a popular game for its persistent faults. I did not expect so many people on my side for once. Glad to see I am not the only one tired of the bs. Usually people on the internet just can't stand when someone criticizes a game they like and actually has a different opinion and it just gets shut down. They just get labeled as trolls whose opinion is completely invalid. Because that's logical.
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