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Gameplay wise I mean. Although a VC on Switch would obviously be ideal.
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Can you imagine what a gamecube mini would look like? How much smaller can it get?
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Makes much more sense to offer an option for an older console that used cartridges. I can only imagine how many of mine still saves.
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I would get it for F-Zero GX, Viewtiful Joe, and Timesplitters 2 in HD.
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At this point, it's cheaper for me to just buy the rest of any GC games I may want. I somehow amassed like 80% of the classics. I'm just missing some hidden gems like Timesplitters.
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I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment.
Hell, I doubt they'll actually go through with an N64 classic, even if it is possible
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Emulator is the better option.
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Rolfin posted...
I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment. Dude, my old MacBook Pro could emulate GameCube games with ease. It isn't that hard.
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MegaButterfree posted...
Yeah, I'm sure all 13 people who'd manage to get one would enjoy it. Hey, they'd have production down by then and 25 people could have one.
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Thrasher7170 posted...
Rolfin posted...I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment. This isn't about what can emulate a gamecube, it's about the expense of the hardware that can. It's not overly pricey, but we won't be seeing a mini GameCube for a measly $60. Conversely, the tech required to emulate NES and SNES games is practically pennies in comparison
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phineasfool posted...
MegaButterfree posted...Yeah, I'm sure all 13 people who'd manage to get one would enjoy it. Hey, don't get carried away here! :O |
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Rolfin posted...
Thrasher7170 posted...Well of course we wouldn't see it for $60. The SNES alone is $80.Rolfin posted...I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment. Gamecube would almost certainly break $100.
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Why? so they can put 10 games on it 5 of which wouldn't even be worth playing. And it couldn't play any of the original gamecube disc? Literally might as well do VC gamecube games instead of making us buy a device that can only play a few preinstalled games and nothing else be put on it
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vayne145 posted...
Why? so they can put 10 games on it 5 of which wouldn't even be worth playing. And it couldn't play any of the original gamecube disc? Literally might as well do VC gamecube games instead of making us buy a device that can only play a few preinstalled games and nothing else be put on itApparently gamecube games are hard to do on a VC for some reason. Hence why they never did it prior. We'd probably have better chances buying a GC mini.
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DrProfessor posted...
Rolfin posted...Thrasher7170 posted...Well of course we wouldn't see it for $60. The SNES alone is $80.Rolfin posted...I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment. Exactly. Think about it from a business perspective: what's the incentive for the consumer? In the NES and SNES classic's case, it's a cheap little retro box that's hard driven by nostalgia. The GameCube doesn't really have either of those things going for it. The GameCube mini would both be more expensive AND wouldn't be as marketable. It's not that I don't like gamecube or that I think people are 'wrong' for wanting a mini... I just think the incentive for Nintendo to make one is very slim DrProfessor posted... Apparently gamecube games are hard to do on a VC for some reason. Hence why they never did it prior. We'd probably have better chances buying a GC mini. You do also realize that the classic mini series is emulation based, right?
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Rolfin posted...
DrProfessor posted...Haha. You're right, I totally forgot. Well then yeah, if they could do a mini, they can do VC.Rolfin posted...Thrasher7170 posted...Well of course we wouldn't see it for $60. The SNES alone is $80.Rolfin posted...I doubt they'll ever do a GC mini. Emulating from NES to N64 is easy peasy, but gamecube, while TECHNICALLY doable, would be a much bigger investment.
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Unfortunately there's a bit of a cost difference between the hardware required for N64 emulation (literally the lowest-cost mobile chipset currently in production is capable of this) and the hardware required for GameCube emulation (which isn't difficult but the lowest-cost hardware can't do it so a more expensive chipset would be necessary).
That by itself would be a solvable problem, but there's another issue - the NES and SNES are worthwhile because they've got huge nostalgia value. The GameCube wasn't anywhere near as successful as those machines so its nostalgia value isn't as high. An €80 mini SNES has an appeal level which is much wider than a €100 mini GameCube. ducksarethugs posted... Apparently gamecube games are hard to do on a VC for some reason. They aren't. The Wii would have played them natively if Nintendo wanted to offer them that way. The Wii U could have done the same. The Switch is powerful enough to emulate the GameCube at playable speeds. The question isn't whether it's hard to do (it's not) but whether enough people would be interested to make it worthwhile. ducksarethugs posted... Can you imagine what a gamecube mini would look like? How much smaller can it get? It could be Ouya-sized. The Ouya had mid-end-ish mobile hardware by 2013 standards and came in a relatively small, not-quite-cubic case. A mini GameCube in 2018 with mid-end-ish mobile hardware would require a similar case size. For comparison: 
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DrProfessor posted...
Haha. You're right, I totally forgot. Well then yeah, if they could do a mini, they can do VC. Hey, if they want to make a new gamecube with some preloaded ROMS, Disc compatibility and HDMI, stuffed into a small chassis, then I would totally be on board. But that's too awesome to actually come to fruition
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Eoin posted...
You do realize that playing a game natively and emulation are two separate things, yes? The Wii could play gamecube games because it had the actual gamecube hardware baked into it... There was no emulation. I'm not saying GameCube VC couldn't be done, but it is a totally different beast than BC on the Wii. Btw, that picture of the GC next to the OUYA is beautiful
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Rolfin posted...
You do realize that playing a game natively and emulation are two separate things, yes? Of course, and there is nothing in that post to suggest that I don't so there was absolutely no need for you to ask that question. |
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Eoin posted...
Rolfin posted...You do realize that playing a game natively and emulation are two separate things, yes? Maybe I just read your post the wrong way. I was under the impression that you were implying Gamecube Emulation viability had something to do with how the Wii did it. Which, as we both understand, the Wii didn't emulate at all.
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DrProfessor posted...
vayne145 posted...Why? so they can put 10 games on it 5 of which wouldn't even be worth playing. And it couldn't play any of the original gamecube disc? Literally might as well do VC gamecube games instead of making us buy a device that can only play a few preinstalled games and nothing else be put on itApparently gamecube games are hard to do on a VC for some reason. Hence why they never did it prior. We'd probably have better chances buying a GC mini. That's interesting....couldn't the wii play gamecube games? If so wasn't that done through an emulator? If the wii can run a gamecube emulator how can't the wiiu or switch? Edit: just read another post apparently the wii didn't emulate so that's interesting to xD
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vayne145 posted...
That's interesting....couldn't the wii play gamecube games? If so wasn't that done through an emulator? If the wii can run a gamecube emulator how can't the wiiu or switch? The Wii was built around the same architecture as the GameCube and to play GameCube games it just ran as a GameCube. It wasn't powerful enough to emulate the GameCube but it didn't have to. The Wii U did the same thing with the Wii - to play Wii games, it ran as a Wii. There's.....let's say "strong indications" that it could have done the same with the GameCube. It probably was powerful enough to emulate the GameCube but it wouldn't have had to, at least not fully. So the Switch is the first major TV-capable Nintendo machine since the GameCube that couldn't natively play GameCube games, and would have to emulate them, and thankfully everything we know about the Switch and about GameCube emulation suggests that the Switch is more than powerful enough to emulate the GameCube at playable speeds. |
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VeiledGenesis posted...
Emulator is the better option. Yeah. GameCube games on PC (with the GC adapter of course) is hands down the definitive way to play them. |
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Rolfin posted...
Eoin posted...Rolfin posted...You do realize that playing a game natively and emulation are two separate things, yes? I think he's arguing that GC emulation is quite easy. I don't really know why it'd be difficult either. I understand once you take away the hardware designed for whatever console and start using generic chips and stuff, the CPU can't quite follow the instructions 1:1. I guess it wouldn't be acceptable to only be able to emulate some games to the market but the rest aren't up to polish due to emulation issues.
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