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Games like Prince of Persia 2008 not having a game over pissed a lot of people off(not for me), everyone claimed Ubi was making the game more causal friendly.
Enter Super Mario Odysse, and Nintendo fans are happy it lost it's game over screen, which I can now see as kids hate losing in Mario games, but it is just funny how you can clearly see both demographic split on things like this
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Or people's opinions of how a game should be structured have changed over the past 9 years?
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What an egregious example. Like, not even comparable, and you over generalized to the point of absurdity.
But its ok. This is a trash topic anyways.
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I don't think all Nintendo gamers have the same opinion. I don't think all non-nintendo gamers have the same opinion. Also there is a HUGE amount of overlap, few gamers are 100% exclusive to one company.
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stop3 posted...
I don't think all Nintendo gamers have the same opinion. I don't think all non-nintendo gamers have the same opinion. Also there is a HUGE amount of overlap, few gamers are 100% exclusive to one company.
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You literally addressed the actual issue in the original post: PoP2008 and SMO are for two completely different audiences, shown even in ESRB ratings. PoP is a T-rated game from a series that has had M-rated titles, while Odyssey is an E-rated game from a 100% E-rated series.
It's not really a platform difference so much as an audience difference. Mario is meant to be an actual 'all-ages' series, hence the always-E ESRB rating. Prince of Persia, despite having T-rated games, has also had enough of its' modern series be M-rated enough to make it clear that it's trying to skew towards a more adult demographic Removing game overs from Mario is something that plays towards the younger ages in the 'all-ages' set, whereas removing game overs from Prince of Persia is just making a game that's designed for people in their late teens and early over-21 years easier
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Nintendo gamers are hypocrites
They said DLC was bad until Nintendo did it. Now they all love DLC.
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Mr_Big_Boss posted...
Nintendo gamers are hypocrites You mean a small portion of gamers are hypocrites and not the fanbase as a whole
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Mr_Big_Boss posted...
Nintendo gamers are hypocrites Who's they? I game on Nintendo systems (and Sony systems) and I've never said that. Weird. DLC can be done correctly and incorrectly. There's a varying scale. Stop over generalizing.
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Mr_Big_Boss posted...
Nintendo gamers are hypocrites I agree with this for a subset of Nintendo gamers, but I don't pretend it's all Nintendo gamers, nor do I pretend it's isolated to Nintendo gamers. I've seen enough console-makers and publishers with fans that claimed DLC was bad only to go back on their word when their favorite series introduced them
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Mr_Big_Boss posted...
Nintendo gamers are hypocrites Nah we full circle now, they didn't like all the DLC in Fire Emblem Echoes and Amiibos unlock too much. |
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Honestly, we're still seeing topics on how Odyssey not having game overs will make the game easier.
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A lot of games benefit from a game over screen. Games in the collect-a-thon genre do not. The difficulty in these games should be primarily from exploration and puzzles. Having a game over set you back and make you lose all moons you've collected in that level will not add anything to the game.
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Unless it's something like Dark Souls or something with an iconic game over screen a la Resident Evil I think the idea of a game over screen in general is outdated. Just kill me and let me get back to playing already.
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It's OK, most of the trolls here are too young to even remember (or know )PoP series lol
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yahya_no_1 posted...
It's OK, most of the trolls here are too young to even remember (or know )PoP series lol Instead of trying to insult people, try and maybe acknowledge/respond to some of the legitimate points we've made. I used to play Prince of Persia on the NES by the way. You're attempts to discredit people are going poorly.
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"Game over" is an outdated concept that the genre has mostly moved past. Mario was just very late to the party.
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It's not really that you can't lose though, you're just put at the last checkpoint.
Like Shovel Knight is a pretty hard game at times, but you never get a game over in it.
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same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth.
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I miss when people at least tried to be creative in their trolling. This is just sad TC
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cdgatto posted...
yahya_no_1 posted...It's OK, most of the trolls here are too young to even remember (or know )PoP series lol I never insulted anyone, please tell me who I insulted anyone? you wont find any in my post as why would I? You on the other hand(who is obviously a young kid), already lost the argument or relevance from your very first post, good day.
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yahya_no_1 posted...
cdgatto posted...yahya_no_1 posted...It's OK, most of the trolls here are too young to even remember (or know )PoP series lol For pointing out how egregious your comparison was? Go ahead and explain how the comparison to Prince of Persia 2008 and Odyssey makes any sense.
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Baha05 posted...
Mr_Big_Boss posted...Nintendo gamers are hypocrites Yeah. Like you. There's more than enough posts on the Wii U Board to confirm your hypocrisy.
Literally if it wasn't Nintendo I would return the god damn thing and never f***ing buy another Nintendo product again.- hilliet
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dunnyrega posted...
same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth. You're confusing millennials with their parents. You know, the people that decided those awards weren't as much for us as for them, coaches, teachers, etc so they don't have to feel bad that they invested in someone and they didn't win. I never once asked for a participation trophy. The current generation is also too young to be able to make this broad sweeping claim about them, so don't try and blame them either.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
dunnyrega posted...same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth. well i see 25+ years old living with parents while i went to college and paid my bills for my own place as soon as i graduated from HS in early 2000, back then as soon as you finished high school your parent would help you and paid you deposit and first month rent of your own place and said " i dont want to see you until Christmas and just for those 2 days".
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Do all the trolls and fanboys of other consoles enjoy making idiotic overgeneralisations of Nintendo fans?
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Or maybe people have become more enlightened to how Game Over screens are just wastes of time, especially in games with actual difficulty. And just letting us try again and again without going through the title screen + file select screen is more ideal.
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Mr_Big_Boss posted...
Nintendo gamers are hypocrites Only the fanboys did that, and even then, they only said that for Mario Kart 8 and now all the trolls use this against Nintendo fans in general.
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Honestly think the game over screen is good or bad based on the game.
Number one issue playing this game with family kids? they keep dying and it was always left for me to finish things, a game like "Freedom Planet" having a mode where you take no damage made my little nice love that game Nintendo did the same thing with Kirby on the Wii and people were split if that was OK or not, at the end Nintendo fanboys were stating having a health bar or getting to retry a level is outdated too lol
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yahya_no_1 posted...
Honestly think the game over screen is good or bad based on the game. when i was 5 i got megaman 1 for NES, and kept trying over and over until i beat the game when i was 6, there is no reason to take away the incentive to get good to a child, that child will live life thinking everything is easy and will never survive on their own.
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dunnyrega posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...dunnyrega posted...same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth. College is significantly more expensive now, and degrees are expected if you want to be more than a cashier or something somewhere for minimum wage. I've seen the tuition the VA is paying for me (I got out of the military at 30 in 2015 and decided to upgrade from an AS to a BS) and it's ridiculous. I just pulled up my Student Finance page and it's around $15k per semester. FAFSA just doesn't cover that much even with student loans on top of the grants. "I went to college on my own 17 years ago" is an invalid comparison to today's college students.
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dunnyrega posted...
yahya_no_1 posted...Honestly think the game over screen is good or bad based on the game. But here is the thing, my little niece doesn't like that, she would just open just dance instead, I think freedom planet did it best, give people options, you want to keep trying sure, you want to just have a causal fun, cool I still play MGS games on easy and very easy, only game I finished on normal was MGS5, only coz of that stupid chicken head mode that kills the fun of the game I finished games like Ninja Gaiden and DMC 1 on hard and very hard but still play MGS 1-4 on very easy as it is fun to mess around with the soldiers
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n00bsaib0t posted...
dunnyrega posted...n00bsaib0t posted...dunnyrega posted...same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth. my niece is 19 and lives in campus right now on her own, its all in the individual.
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prince of persia 2008 is closer to kirbys epic yarn than mario odyssey.
in odyssey you can die but there are no lives or game over, largely because lives are a mechanic which are largely pointless in most games nowadays where you dont get booted back to the begining of the game when dying, and games like the new rayman games, shovel knight and many more had ditched the lives concept. if you died and respawned on the spot instead of back at a save point then it would make a difference.
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dunnyrega posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...dunnyrega posted...n00bsaib0t posted...dunnyrega posted...same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on earth. That's not an option for everyone. Surely someone with your mindset understands that, right? Like my brother who got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 15. Is he supposed to take his kid and go live on campus? He actually got through college in spite of people like you.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
That's not an option for everyone. Surely someone with your mindset understands that, right? Like my brother who got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 15. Is he supposed to take his kid and go live on campus? He actually got through college in spite of people like you. i cant help if a person decided that using a condom was a choice at that age. even now in my 30s i know what im doing in all situations.
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can people post a vid of someone playing mario odyssey and fallling in a pit or off the side of new york town?
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Never mind I found it
 Can people stoop acting like you dont die in mario? this video is proof. not only do you die but you start over from the start like any other mario game. you lose coins which coins are basically lives anyways because once you get 100 of them you get a 1up. thats the only difference in odyssey. instead of lives being represented by a mario face and a number. they are represented by coins. The fact that there is a health bar should already tell you that you can die. odyssey's system is even harder because you cant 100 percent the game without coins. Also lives are easy as hell to get in past mario games and people would never run out. coins are much harder to get.
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dunnyrega posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...That's not an option for everyone. Surely someone with your mindset understands that, right? Like my brother who got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 15. Is he supposed to take his kid and go live on campus? He actually got through college in spite of people like you. This just in: man in his 30s more responsible than a teenager. More at 11. You're a fucking joke. No shit you understand that. Most kids raised in a church don't get any fucking sex ed, but have fun with that superiority complex.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
dunnyrega posted...n00bsaib0t posted...That's not an option for everyone. Surely someone with your mindset understands that, right? Like my brother who got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 15. Is he supposed to take his kid and go live on campus? He actually got through college in spite of people like you. not superiority, common sense, i was having sex as soon as i hit 9th grade, never had anyone pregnant that i know of. and no i am not sterile.
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why are people talking about sex and kids and crap in here? stick to the topic people.
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kirbyhoakage posted...
Never mind I found it So basically they're ripping off Sonic the Hedgehog now
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kirbyhoakage posted...
why are people talking about sex and kids and crap in here? stick to the topic people. dont be jelly, you will have your chance when you grow up child.
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Y'all need Jesus.
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this topic turned weird 0.0
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dunnyrega posted...
same as nongamers that are being taught that they deserve a trophy for participation because the words "you lost" are very hurtful and then is hard to sit after hearing they didnt win at everything in life, we are raising a generation of losers that cant be called losers or they raise hell on ear I'm 34 and none of my peers had family that basically told them to fuck off once they got out of high school. Most parents were sad to see their kids go and wanted them to stay more than two days.
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More different than you might dare to imagine, TC...
Baha05 posted... Mr_Big_Boss posted...Nintendo gamers are hypocrites If you spent all your time correcting every exaggeration on this website, you'd never get any sleep... just the ones that attack Nintendo, right? ;) And also... Mr_Big_Boss 7/30/2017 10:20:45 AM Quite impressive. You ARE getting paid for this, right? _Dog posted... Y'all need Jesus. Damage control.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
dunnyrega posted...n00bsaib0t posted...That's not an option for everyone. Surely someone with your mindset understands that, right? Like my brother who got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 15. Is he supposed to take his kid and go live on campus? He actually got through college in spite of people like you. So churches are bad because people make irresponsible decisions? Okay...
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I don't really care about "game over" on mario games... unless you're playing in the arcades in the 90s chances are you're never seeing a game over screen....
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Ryanator20x6 posted...
some religions don't believe in contraception. noob didn't say they were bad people, either.
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