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https://twitter.com/MichaelCondrey/status/888235381178605568
They do say that verbal insults hurt more than physical pain. They are of course wrong, as you will soon discover when I stick this toasting fork in your head.
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I don't get it
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French toast or waffles? I'm leaning towards French toast with some powdered sugar, strawberries and whipped cream. Yeah...that sounds pretty good.
The conclusions posters come to on this site, based on little to no actual facts, will slowly drive you mad. Leave now before it's to late.
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The problem with these morons nowadays is that they don't grasp the concept of context. To them, anything associated with hate automatically means hate even if all thw context is removed, or if it's used in a different, non-hateful context.
For any whom this post happens to offend, I can get you great deal on a spine.
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johnny_pay posted...
I don't get it The new COD's multiplayer won't have swastikas on the German side. Normal people get that Activision is doing it to save money, since they couldn't sell the game in Germany with swastikas in it and it would be a lot of time and effort to build specific servers in that region to block them. Everyone else is blaming SJWs
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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Apparently asking for Nazi symbols in a WW2 game makes you racist.
"HZD is buttery smooth at 30fps" -Sony fanboy.
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Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW.
"I know it's crooked, but it's the only game in town." - Canada Bill Jones
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rjames80 posted...
Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Lol. so German's want to play as black female Nazis as well?
They do say that verbal insults hurt more than physical pain. They are of course wrong, as you will soon discover when I stick this toasting fork in your head.
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Gibberish5 posted...
French toast or waffles? I'm leaning towards French toast with some powdered sugar, strawberries and whipped cream. Yeah...that sounds pretty good. Yum.
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buggins1974 posted...
dantedeschain13 posted...johnny_pay posted...I don't get it I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings snowflake, but nothing in that tweet you posted has anything to do with "black female Nazis".
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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rjames80 posted...
Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Did Germany ban all forms of Nazi imagery in entertainment or history? Because that would be news to me.
"HZD is buttery smooth at 30fps" -Sony fanboy.
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This MCondrey dude is worried about associating a symbol with mass murder when it already happens within the game regardless.
Thank god for Wolfenstein, no fucks given. I'll be buying that instead. |
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dantedeschain13 posted...
johnny_pay posted...I don't get it If the COD guy hadn't been such a jerk in his reply, I'd believe you...
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a The law applies specifically to symbols associated with certain groups. So someone using the Indian Swastika for a religious thing is fine. Swastikas in a game with Nazis are not. Apparently, they were even arresting people for holding up signs with swastikas crossed out at one point
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. http://heavy.com/games/2017/06/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-trailer-banned-germany-nazi-bethesda-e3-2017-censorship/
It's a moo point. You know, like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo.
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Lockheart34 posted...
This MCondrey dude is worried about associating a symbol with mass murder when it already happens within the game regardless. If you are just interested in single player then don't worry, swastikas are still there in CoDs single player. As long as you don't live in a country that bans them.
The conclusions posters come to on this site, based on little to no actual facts, will slowly drive you mad. Leave now before it's to late.
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Pretty much. It's amazing when a country wants nothing to do with it's former egregious past.
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I really don't understand the anger on this board over this "issue". Maybe it's because I don't play FPS games anyway, so COD doesn't really mean anything to me, maybe it's because I understand it's a game, I don't know. But I can't figure out why this is such a big deal.
Historical accuracy? I mean, I guess so, but it seem relatively inaccurate for there to be only a few people on each side of the fight, instead of the tens or hundreds of thousands there actually were. Not to mention the number of bullets it takes to kill people sometimes. And then there's the zombies. So all in all, it's hard for me to believe that the COD games have been the bastion of historical accuracy to begin with. If the game was actually an historic representation of WWII, then I could at least understand a little better. And while Germany hasn't banned all forms of Nazi imagery in entertainment or history, they have banned "the Swastika as a symbol of the Nazi Party, prohibited in all variants, including mirrored, inverted etc." And I'd imagine this game is showing the swastika as a symbol for the Nazi Party, though that likely gets into legal waters I have no business even dipping my toe into, let alone wading or swimming in them. I'd be interested in hearing a reason why this is worthy of so many topics besides historical inaccuracy or SJW boogeymen. Because the far more real reason, to me, seems like the way they have it now makes them the most money, which at the end of the day, is likely all they care about. |
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Just another cringe worthy, virtue signaling asshole. Just sigh and move on.
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@groz24
It's fake outrage by keyboard warriors. Same shit different day.
It's a moo point. You know, like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo.
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Oh look, buggins-troll trying to blame the "SJW's" again. Grow up fruit cup.
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@MetroidFan99999 @SpinoRaptor24
Actually, the lack of Swastikas seems to be due to the symbol being banned in certain countries besides Germany, not due to Germans wanting to pretend that WWII never happened. Having just one version of the game without swastikas is easier and cheaper than making a version with them, and another version without them. When people in English-speaking countries hear that there are No Swastikas because of German censorship, this may lead to Unfortunate Implications as an obvious conclusion is that "the Germans are trying to push revisionist history and pretend the Nazis were never in power!"; and it's not only them, even modern Germans may offer this suggestion as the reason for excessive No Swastikas trope use. The official explanation is, of course, the absolute non-endorsement of the symbol, which even got a politician in trouble when she used the symbol in a context of anti-Nazism (to elaborate, a fist crushing it), but for this kind of use the symbol is alright after the German equivalent of the Supreme Court changed things for such cases. (For the record, denying the Holocaust is also illegal in Germany.) [...] Many countries have similar bans on the display of "totalitarian symbols" - Hungary, for instance, bans the display of the symbols of the Nazis, the Soviets, and the Arrow Cross Party. Lithuania has passed a similar law recently—also extending it to Soviet symbols. And Latvia was warned in 2006 not to put swastikas — an ancient propitious symbol for them, too — on gifts intended for NATO ambassadors. After all, the Germans wouldn't have been able to take them back home... Source: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSwastikas
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Apparently asking for Nazi symbols in a WW2 game makes you racist. rjames80 posted... Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. My thoughts on this entire situation - for anyone who might give a damn, which is probably nobody: Had they explained in something like that tweet, or in a press release or whatever, that the reason there are no swastikas in the game is so that they can sell the game in Germany as opposed to essentially having to retexture anyone and anything with a swastika on it specifically for a German-only release - essentially, a business strategy to sell more copies with little work needed on their part, it would have been fine. "Here's what we're doing, here's why we're doing it - it's business, plain and simple." Makes sense, and everyone (well, mostly everyone) would be fine with it. The response they gave is... well, it's infuriating for several reasons. One, they're essentially telling someone they're racist for wanting a historically-accurate symbol in the game for the historically-accurate military force. Two, they're pulling an "appeal to emotion" when their decision likely wasn't based on that. Three, if this wasn't a business decision (i.e. they could and got the go-ahead to make a "German-only" version without swastikas and leave the otherwise-international version alone with swastikas in it,) then it's a clear attempt at trying to rewrite history because "someone might feel bad about what happened 70 years ago." So, either they're being dishonest with their customers and attacking them for asking about it, or they're off their rocker and attacking their customers in an attempt to rewrite history (and not Ducktales-style.)
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MetroidFan99999 posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Not wanting to be associated with it and outright pretending like it didn't exist are two completely different things.
"HZD is buttery smooth at 30fps" -Sony fanboy.
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dantedeschain13 posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. I'm not sure how I feel about it tbh. On the one hand they seem to be making an effort to keep current day Naziism firmly on its ass, something other countries seem to be completely uninterested in, but on the other when they're banning historical depictions it does seem like whitewashing. Tbh though, to the topic, this Michael Condrey gets it completely ass backwards. It's not about getting the symbol in to propagate racist ideology, its inclusion is about remembering who was responsible for some of the horrible things that happened in WW2. It is about accurately attributing blame to an ideology that still exists today. Nazis will be happy about the lack of their symbol being used in games because it separates them from the horrible events being depicted. It's the same reason they deny the holocaust happened, they want people to forget what happened in the past so that their ideology seems more "reasonable" today.
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rjames80 posted...
Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. So every other version of the game released in other countries will have everything intact correct? Because its not like developers never had to censor or remove something in a specific region while keeping it in the rest of the world. |
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Sage JJ posted...
rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. If you can show me an instance of this happening in the MP portion of the game, I think you'll find people willing to concede the point.
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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This is still just for the MP portion right and the SP portion has it aside from the German version?
If so, why would someone give a shit about what goes on in the MP portion? It's not like there is a story there, it's just people running around killing each other and completing an objective sometimes. I doubt anyone is going to stop and marvel about how accurate a MP map is while bullets are flying. People need to pick their battles better and let small meaningless garbage just slide away, and this whining about how the MP is going to go down is asinine. The dude on twitter shouldn't have said anything though, just let people whine and don't pay it any attention.
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Big_Bawss posted...
dantedeschain13 posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. I don't know the situation in Germany, but I would imagine they might have been concerned with the Nazis coming back after America and Russia fucked them post-WWII. Like a whole "why should we put up with these assholes when we were kings of the world under the Nazis" kind of thing
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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I guess I'm just old but I dont need a swastika in a game to remember that the Nazi Party used it - "historical accuracy!!!!" or not.
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Slow news day?
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
MetroidFan99999 posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Newsflash....banning the imagery isn't just taking the position of "pretending it didn't exist", it can also be a disassociation with it as well.
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MetroidFan99999 posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...MetroidFan99999 posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Yeah, gotta agree with that. Mentioning a bad event and having a response of "we don't talk about that" is different than mentioning a bad event and the response being "No, that never happened."
Stupid, stupid rat creatures!!!
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I felt a few seconds desire to jump in defence of my fellow gamer but then I realised I didn't really give a shit if they use the symbol or not.
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CMax posted...
I guess I'm just old but I dont need a swastika in a game to remember that the Nazi Party used it - "historical accuracy!!!!" or not. Same here. Although I personally don't really care about historical accuracy in my games, I don't get my knickers in a twist about that stuff.
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Its 2017 anything you do or dont do will offend SOMEBODY.
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Pailhead posted...
CMax posted...I guess I'm just old but I dont need a swastika in a game to remember that the Nazi Party used it - "historical accuracy!!!!" or not. Eh, I don't need to see the symbol to know it was used with it or not as well, but to me, it's a baby step towards rewriting history. This isn't a game designed for kids (whether or not they play it is besides the point - it has likely an M rating, or at the very least a T rating and those kids should know by now who the Nazis are.) Not using the symbol for social or political means isn't a good excuse. I mean, are we trying to become like this society? 
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buggins1974 posted...
rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. Sure, why not? Is it so awful to provide players with more options? It's just multiplayer. It doesn't have to be historically accurate. SpinoRaptor24 posted... rjames80 posted...Apparently wanting to sell the game in Germany makes you a SJW. dantedeschain13 posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a secondhand1 posted... http://heavy.com/games/2017/06/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-trailer-banned-germany-nazi-bethesda-e3-2017-censorship/ MetroidFan99999 posted... Pretty much. Asked and answered!
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Putting aside any accusations of being racist or an SJW, that was just a really shitty response to the guy, in my opinion. He wasn't really being rude or anything, and the developer's response was pretty childish.
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Phrase-of-Eve posted...
Putting aside any accusations of being racist or an SJW, that was just a really shitty response to the guy, in my opinion. He wasn't really being rude or anything, and the developer's response was pretty childish. It's sadly how the younger generation (including my generation in that) argue nowadays. "Don't argue the point, attack the person." For instance, one could mention that despite the horrible atrocities that occurred during World War II, there were a lot of technological and scientific improvements that were made during that era, and our lives nowadays use many of those things that scientists on both sides (Allied and Axis) helped discover and invent. Space program? Not possible without what the Nazis did with rocket technology. A counter-point to that wouldn't be questioning if tech gained through ill-gotten and unethical means should be applauded (even though that would be a good argument one could use,) it would be "You're approving of Nazis, therefore you are a Nazi." It's maddening. I'm not even a good debater and even I don't fall into that trap of "attack the person, not the argument."
Stupid, stupid rat creatures!!!
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@theshoveller makes a believable complaint, but it is missing something important. You stated how this was largely a business move, but there is a crucial business division you did not discuss. These decisions and occurences always involve the public relations department. For brevity, I will just state right now that the public relations employees probably advised the rest of the company to explain the topic at hand in the way it has been in order to keep their enterprise in the best light.
Companies lie all the time. They do not tell us their reasoning for all their actions, and as long as they are not retreating on something already promised they never need to tell us. Fibs, sugar coating, feigned ignorance, and doubletalk have been part of the industry since the early days. If the team involved with this game lied about their impetus, it would be a case of softening the blow. Skipping the hurtful symbols under the pretense of recognizing that they're hurtful is more excusable than doing so exclusively for the purpose of making more money. Flat out admitting that would damage their company's image way more than being caught in a white lie. The public relations workers exist to determine the best way to share information with us the audience. The developers could have done it for both of the reasons. It's rational that they saw the regional retail obstacles and the emotional issue as well. Their staff comprises of multiple people from different backgrounds with the intent of making products that are profound and expansive. Seeing both issues would emphasize their decision to leave out the offensive imagery. This would make it a simple omission. Again, acknowledging the human element and not being affected by it would have been immensely more harmful. The reasons they gave are completely genuine, and they did not bother to mention any other contributing factors. @dantedeschain13 noted how it also saves them the trouble of programming the content. However, instead of telling us that they are lazy, they simply point out the religious conflict and leave it at that. |
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NotDreamsaber posted...
theshoveller makes a believable complaint, but it is missing something important. You stated how this was largely a business move, but there is a crucial business division you did not discuss. These decisions and occurences always involve the public relations department. For brevity, I will just state right now that the public relations employees probably advised the rest of the company to explain the topic at hand in the way it has been in order to keep their enterprise in the best light. You're right, I did leave that out. I think it would have been a bad PR decision to advise attacking a customer, though, in their need to spin the "it's for social / political reasons" explanation. There's a way the person could have phrased that that didn't essentially turn into "Do you want to be like a Nazi, Billy? Is that what you want?" Again, just my thoughts on it.
Stupid, stupid rat creatures!!!
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theshoveller posted...
Phrase-of-Eve posted...Putting aside any accusations of being racist or an SJW, that was just a really shitty response to the guy, in my opinion. He wasn't really being rude or anything, and the developer's response was pretty childish. Flip side, discussions involving the a-bomb usually go that route too, regardless of the fact that the Japanese were literally as bad as the Nazis. Victory Over Japan Day is a thing for a reason
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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dantedeschain13 posted...
johnny_pay posted...I don't get it It wouldnt cost them that much to replace all swastika textures with iron cross textures in the German release. Since the replaced textures shares the same name, the German copies wont see the swastikas online because you load the textures locally, so no need for special servers.
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His retaliation seems justified. The symbol is not mandatory in order to understand who the enemy is, as @CMax and @Pailhead have said. We will never know what reason that fan had for requesting the symbol. What matters is that the creators have chosen to omit it from the online section of their game, and the reasoning they gave is valid.
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Foppe posted...
dantedeschain13 posted...johnny_pay posted...I don't get it From that law I saw (granted Wikipedia) there can't be anything Nazi related. And this is Activision, they aren't exactly known as the company that goes the extra mile to please fans
F*** you, Desert Bluffs
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TC, why are you so surprised?
The game programmer, like the good Gamma-male SJWhore that he was invoked the 2nd Law and subsequent, the 3rd Law of SJWhores. 1.SJWhores always lie. 2.SJWhores always double down. 3.SJWhores always project.
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Sjws always seem like the biggest rejects lmao
Came outta nowhere
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