Saturday, July 22, 2017

PSVR dead already

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WeeabooCreep 2 days ago#1
Is there a future for this peripheral? Sounds like it's already on life support. Were the noisy masses right in calling it a fad or gimmick or do you think Sony should continue investing in it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mitchwallace/2017/06/15/is-sony-quietly-giving-up-on-psvr/#488a2cc87741
binaryvegeta 2 days ago#2
considering they showed a good amount of new games at E3 for VR. I don't think Sony is giving up on VR.
Kept you waiting, huh?
EvilGiygas 2 days ago#3
Forbes. Lol
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SomeSayKos 2 days ago#5
I like how Sony vr is always compared to console sales, while other company vrs are compared to vr sales.
Thermador446 2 days ago#6
EvilGiygas posted...
Forbes. Lol
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riddlebox89 2 days ago#7
WeeabooCreep posted...
Were the noisy masses right in calling it a fad or gimmick or do you think Sony should continue investing in it?



Of course they were right, it doesn't really matter whether Sony sticks with it or drops it after a few years, it'd still be a gimmick to go along with things like motion controls, 3D and those dumbass cameras.

Being successful doesn't make something not a gimmick, it just makes it a successful gimmick.
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ProMWM 2 days ago#8
@SpinoRaptor24 We cordially invite you to this topic.
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CaIiber345 2 days ago#9
Novice User. 
Troll name. 
Clickbait topic title. 
Forbes link. 

This topic seems legit.
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It was never going to take off costing nearly twice as much as the console itself..... and needing a console that costs AS much as itself to run it decently.
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Thermador446 posted...
EvilGiygas posted...
Forbes. Lol
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We all knew it was dead already.
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WeeabooCreep 2 days ago#13
CaIiber345 posted...
Novice User. 
Troll name. 
Clickbait topic title. 
Forbes link. 

This topic seems legit.

And your opinion of PSVR would be? Have you even played any of the VR sets? Oculus? Vive? 

You're an ancient account anyway, made in 2008 with a horological reference in your name maybe, not really sure what it means in case you were wondering.
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stevetherican posted...
Elders Scrolls Skyrim VR, DOOM VFR, Gran Turismo Sport, Ace Combat 7, and others say no.
KI11AK 2 days ago#16
With more and more games coming out for it, its clearly dead and unsupported.
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stevetherican posted...
Elders Scrolls Skyrim VR, DOOM VFR, Gran Turismo Sport, Ace Combat 7, and others say no.


Reassurance post.
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tobydammit 2 days ago#18
BibikiBayBoy posted...
Thermador446 posted...
EvilGiygas posted...
Forbes. Lol
I don't care. Who cares?
snkboi 2 days ago#19
as long as facebook owns oculus vr the concept won't disappear for a very long time even if it needs a break
tzuyd 2 days ago#20
WeeabooCreep posted...
Is there a future for this peripheral?

Well, it sold twice as fast as expected and couldn't meet demand for 9 months, sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors in 6 months less time and Sony dedicated over 1/6th of their conference solely to the device which affects only 1/60th of their consumer base. So at least for the short term, the future is looking pretty rosy indeed.

CaIiber345 posted...
Novice User. 

And everyone calling for Spino, as if he didn't create the topic.

Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
It was never going to take off costing nearly twice as much as the console itself

>$50 more
>$50 equals 'nearly' $400

Which countries are you guys posting from that don't teach grade 1 maths?
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tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?
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Redwinevino 2 days ago#22
As much as I want it to fail Elders Scrolls Skyrim VR will save it
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KI11AK 2 days ago#23
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.
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KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

Clearly an astronomical success.
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tzuyd posted...
>$50 more
>$50 equals 'nearly' $400

Which countries are you guys posting from that don't teach grade 1 maths?


PS4 = $250
PSVR = $400

Learn to math.

Redwinevino posted...
As much as I want it to fail Elders Scrolls Skyrim VR will save it


Wasn't everyone complaining this E3 about how sick they are of re-releases of Skyrim?
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KI11AK 2 days ago#27
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

Clearly an astronomical success.


You stated that the competition was dead on arrival despite their userbase and software being on a.consistent climb.

And yet again you resort to strawman fallacies
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Wasn't the Kinect also at a consistent climb in userbase and software at first? IIRC the original sold quite well.....

... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.
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El_Zaggy 2 days ago#30
they sold quite a lot of PSVR,probably more than expected since it was out of stock for quite a while

sony also said the sales are up the their expectations.

they also showed quite a bunch of games coming.

so I dont know what you are trying to imply here tc.

I'm not a fan of vr tho. I thought it was pretty nice at first but meh.
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KI11AK 2 days ago#31
Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
Wasn't the Kinect also at a consistent climb in userbase and software at first? IIRC the original sold quite well.....

... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.


Was kinect 400? Were talking about VR here, arent we?
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KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

Clearly an astronomical success.


You stated that the competition was dead on arrival despite their userbase and software being on a.consistent climb.

And yet again you resort to strawman fallacies


http://news.sky.com/story/amp/oculus-rift-price-slashed-again-amid-concerns-over-sales-10943409

Yeah that sure looks like its on a "consistent climb"

And I didn't commit any strawmen. Don't know what you're getting at.
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Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
Wasn't the Kinect also at a consistent climb in userbase and software at first? IIRC the original sold quite well.....

... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.


They also bundled it with 360s. So any new 360 user at the time would have been labled a new Kinect owner
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KI11AK 2 days ago#34
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

Clearly an astronomical success.


You stated that the competition was dead on arrival despite their userbase and software being on a.consistent climb.

And yet again you resort to strawman fallacies


http://news.sky.com/story/amp/oculus-rift-price-slashed-again-amid-concerns-over-sales-10943409

Yeah that sure looks like its on a "consistent climb"

And I didn't commit any strawmen. Don't know what you're getting at.


Youre using qualifiers like 'top tier' and 'astronomical success' to prove wrong a point i never made.
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KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
tzuyd posted...
sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

Clearly an astronomical success.


You stated that the competition was dead on arrival despite their userbase and software being on a.consistent climb.

And yet again you resort to strawman fallacies


http://news.sky.com/story/amp/oculus-rift-price-slashed-again-amid-concerns-over-sales-10943409

Yeah that sure looks like its on a "consistent climb"

And I didn't commit any strawmen. Don't know what you're getting at.


Youre using qualifiers like 'top tier' and 'astronomical success' to prove wrong a point i never made.


So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.
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MrBonestripper posted...
Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


"new user"

wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.
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Chucky86 2 days ago#37
* yawn* this again?
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KI11AK 2 days ago#38
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.


I pointing out your strawman, which youve yet again engaged in.

You really are special huh.
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Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
Wasn't the Kinect also at a consistent climb in userbase and software at first? IIRC the original sold quite well.....

... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.


doesn't change the fact that it was a successful device overall. It just didn't have staying power.

we've yet to see if PSVR or VR in general will have staying power, but right now it's been a success for Sony at the very least.
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VettiSforza 2 days ago#40
Forbes has some good articles but all of them have clickbait titles.
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Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
It was never going to take off costing nearly twice as much as the console itself..... and needing a console that costs AS much as itself to run it decently.


just FYI I have PSVR and use it with Slim and it runs just fine. maybe you'd get a slight boost in picture clarity and draw distance on some games on a Pro, but overall the experience is just fine whichever console you are using.
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KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.


I pointing out your strawman, which youve yet again engaged in.

You really are special huh.


So now you're disagreeing again? 

Make up your mind already.
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
MrBonestripper posted...
Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


"new user"

wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.


Yeah Crimson I made a new account despite me still posting just fine in this one.

Great job, detective.
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KI11AK 2 days ago#46
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.


I pointing out your strawman, which youve yet again engaged in.

You really are special huh.


So now you're disagreeing again? 

Make up your mind already.


Id ask when i agreed with you ever, but im afraid you'll look for another fallacy.
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KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.


I pointing out your strawman, which youve yet again engaged in.

You really are special huh.


So now you're disagreeing again? 

Make up your mind already.


Id ask when i agreed with you ever, but im afraid you'll look for another fallacy.


You've made it clear that you're more interested in one-upping your opponent than having any actual discussion. Come back when you're ready to debate, then we can continue.
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KI11AK 2 days ago#48
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
KI11AK posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
So it doesn't have top tier software and it's not an astronomical success. 

Glad we could agree on that.


I pointing out your strawman, which youve yet again engaged in.

You really are special huh.


So now you're disagreeing again? 

Make up your mind already.


Id ask when i agreed with you ever, but im afraid you'll look for another fallacy.


You've made it clear that you're more interested in one-upping your opponent than having any actual discussion. Come back when you're ready to debate, then we can continue.


Fallacy

Fallacy

Fallacy

What discussion occurs in the never never land youre twirling around in?
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KI11AK posted...
Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
Wasn't the Kinect also at a consistent climb in userbase and software at first? IIRC the original sold quite well.....

... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.


Was kinect 400? Were talking about VR here, arent we?


How is the Kinect costing 1/4th what the PSVR does and still failing helping your point about the PSVR exactly?

dantedeschain13 posted...
They also bundled it with 360s. So any new 360 user at the time would have been labled a new Kinect owner


The 360 Kinect bundle was optional, and no, only the bundles would have counted as a Kinect purchase.

On top of that, the 360 was near EOL by then, they weren't going to be getting massive amounts of sales from bundles to count as Kinect sales.
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KI11AK 2 days ago#50
Cyber Akuma Zero posted...

How is the Kinect costing 1/4th what the PSVR does and still failing helping your point about the PSVR exactly?


Why are you even mentioning kinect in a vr topic?
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    Gryffindor1 2 days ago#51
    Forbes has a massive hard on for saying PSVR is dead. But then again, no one reads Forbes for video games.
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    mashu 2 days ago#52
    It needs a price drop. $500 for the bundle with the camera and Move controllers. $400 for just the headset. The console is $300, but PSVR runs better on the Pro. So, you're looking at $400-900, depending on if you just go with the headset, if you invest in some Move controllers and/or a camera, or if you go all the way and get the bundle and an upgrade to a Pro (less what you sell or trade in the OG for). It really should not be more than the console, so it basically needs a $200 price drop - $200 for the headset or $300 for the bundle. At the most. Until then it's really going to have low sales numbers, but maybe Sony is doing ok with it given some software sales. Who knows.
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    Gryffindor1 2 days ago#53
    mashu posted...
    It needs a price drop. $500 for the bundle with the camera and Move controllers. $400 for just the headset. The console is $300, but PSVR runs better on the Pro. So, you're looking at $400-900, depending on if you just go with the headset, if you invest on some controllers, or if you go all the way and get the bundle and an upgrade to a Pro (less what you sell or trade in the OG for). It really should not be more than the console, so it basically needs a $200 price drop - $200 for the headset or $300 for the bundle. At the most. Until then it's really going to have low sales numbers, but maybe Sony is doing ok with it given some software sales. Who knows.


    You can find PSVR with the camera for 300 now.
    KI11AK posted...
    Cyber Akuma Zero posted...

    How is the Kinect costing 1/4th what the PSVR does and still failing helping your point about the PSVR exactly?


    Why are you even mentioning kinect in a vr topic?


    See previous posts as to why.
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    mashu 2 days ago#55
    Gryffindor1 posted...
    Forbes has a massive hard on for saying PSVR is dead. But then again, no one reads Forbes for video games.


    ^ This too. Sony I don't think cares one bit that Forbes thinks the PSVR is a sinking ship. Sony makes far, far more than invested in the PSVR in other areas of the PS4 brand.
    mashu 2 days ago#56
    Gryffindor1 posted...
    mashu posted...
    It needs a price drop. $500 for the bundle with the camera and Move controllers. $400 for just the headset. The console is $300, but PSVR runs better on the Pro. So, you're looking at $400-900, depending on if you just go with the headset, if you invest on some controllers, or if you go all the way and get the bundle and an upgrade to a Pro (less what you sell or trade in the OG for). It really should not be more than the console, so it basically needs a $200 price drop - $200 for the headset or $300 for the bundle. At the most. Until then it's really going to have low sales numbers, but maybe Sony is doing ok with it given some software sales. Who knows.


    You can find PSVR with the camera for 300 now.


    Yeah, but it's not listed at that price officially, and does not come up under $500 at either Gamestop or Amazon, so the majority looking for PSVR are still confronted with the $500 investment hurdle for the top bundle or $400 for the base set.
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    Sony is terrible when it comes playstation related products,they all fail. Something is really wrong with that companies thinking. Sony is lucky their home PS consoles is the only thing that sells for them.
    Gryffindor1 2 days ago#58
    shotgunheadshot posted...
    Sony is terrible when it comes playstation related products,they all fail. Something is really wrong with that companies thinking. Sony is lucky their home PS consoles is the only thing that sells for them.


    Yup, the PSP totally failed.
    Gryffindor1 posted...
    shotgunheadshot posted...
    Sony is terrible when it comes playstation related products,they all fail. Something is really wrong with that companies thinking. Sony is lucky their home PS consoles is the only thing that sells for them.


    Yup, the PSP totally failed.


    Ok maybe that didn't fail but their software sales for games were bad for it I think. Everything else they made failed. I don't know where their money comes from probably doing favours.
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    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


    "new user"

    wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.


    @CrimsonGear80

    Isn't it Kinjo that's a die-hard defender of PSVR? I seem to remember him having meltdowns when other users would disagree with him on sales,whether or not it is a gimmick or something, etc. Then there is Spino that flocks to negative posts about it like a habit. Imagine those two going head to head over PSVR sales or whether or not it is a success. I bet it'd be something to watch unfold on here. As for me, I don't have PSVR so I am neutral on it either way, but would want it to catch on and be a success at least.
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    Who's alt are you TC? Picked a real good time to call it dead with big releases and/or announcements, every week.
    youngskillz 2 days ago#62
    riddlebox89 posted...
    WeeabooCreep posted...
    Were the noisy masses right in calling it a fad or gimmick or do you think Sony should continue investing in it?



    Of course they were right, it doesn't really matter whether Sony sticks with it or drops it after a few years, it'd still be a gimmick to go along with things like motion controls, 3D and those dumbass cameras.

    Being successful doesn't make something not a gimmick, it just makes it a successful gimmick.




    this, just imagine how many wii consoles were sold when that stupid motion gimmick was popular.

    if it wasn't for motion controls that heap wouldn't have sold a fraction of what it did.


    ps2 is what sold on it's own an it's own game library, no gimmicks no bullshit just games!
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    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    stevetherican posted...
    Elders Scrolls Skyrim VR, DOOM VFR, Gran Turismo Sport, Ace Combat 7, and others say no.


    Reassurance post.


    I don't even own one, but I am also not stupid in realizing a lot will be coming to it...meaning ya know it's alive. I expect a HUGE boost this holiday season with a price slash + Activision & Ubisoft pumping some unannounced licensed VR games too for good measure.
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    MrBonestripper posted...
    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


    "new user"

    wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.


    @CrimsonGear80

    Isn't it Kinjo that's a die-hard defender of PSVR? I seem to remember him having meltdowns when other users would disagree with him on sales,whether or not it is a gimmick or something, etc. Then there is Spino that flocks to negative posts about it like a habit. Imagine those two going head to head over PSVR sales or whether or not it is a success. I bet it'd be something to watch unfold on here. As for me, I don't have PSVR so I am neutral on it either way, but would want it to catch on and be a success at least.


    dude, ANYONE on this board who doesn't speak constant negativity about Sony and the video game industry in general is a "shill" in the eyes of those clown trolls.
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    youngskillz posted...
    riddlebox89 posted...
    WeeabooCreep posted...
    Were the noisy masses right in calling it a fad or gimmick or do you think Sony should continue investing in it?



    Of course they were right, it doesn't really matter whether Sony sticks with it or drops it after a few years, it'd still be a gimmick to go along with things like motion controls, 3D and those dumbass cameras.

    Being successful doesn't make something not a gimmick, it just makes it a successful gimmick.




    this, just imagine how many wii consoles were sold when that stupid motion gimmick was popular.

    if it wasn't for motion controls that heap wouldn't have sold a fraction of what it did.


    ps2 is what sold on it's own an it's own game library, no gimmicks no bullshit just games!


    Not true, what sold a lot of PS2's was the "gimmick" of a cheap DVD player/gaming system at the time.
    Hollywood nWo posted...
    youngskillz posted...
    riddlebox89 posted...
    WeeabooCreep posted...
    Were the noisy masses right in calling it a fad or gimmick or do you think Sony should continue investing in it?



    Of course they were right, it doesn't really matter whether Sony sticks with it or drops it after a few years, it'd still be a gimmick to go along with things like motion controls, 3D and those dumbass cameras.

    Being successful doesn't make something not a gimmick, it just makes it a successful gimmick.




    this, just imagine how many wii consoles were sold when that stupid motion gimmick was popular.

    if it wasn't for motion controls that heap wouldn't have sold a fraction of what it did.


    ps2 is what sold on it's own an it's own game library, no gimmicks no bullshit just games!


    Not true, what sold a lot of PS2's was the "gimmick" of a cheap DVD player/gaming system at the time.


    maybe for the first year or so, but then stand-alone DVD players started to get cheaper. it reached 150 mil+ sold based on it's game library.
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    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


    "new user"

    wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.


    @CrimsonGear80

    Isn't it Kinjo that's a die-hard defender of PSVR? I seem to remember him having meltdowns when other users would disagree with him on sales,whether or not it is a gimmick or something, etc. Then there is Spino that flocks to negative posts about it like a habit. Imagine those two going head to head over PSVR sales or whether or not it is a success. I bet it'd be something to watch unfold on here. As for me, I don't have PSVR so I am neutral on it either way, but would want it to catch on and be a success at least.


    dude, ANYONE on this board who doesn't speak constant negativity about Sony and the video game industry in general is a "shill" in the eyes of those clown trolls.


    True. No argument, CrimsonGear80.
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    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    CrimsonGear80 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    Well, we do know SpinoRaptor should be in here soon to say "I told you so!" if this turned out to be the case.


    "new user"

    wouldn't be shocked if the TC is him. He's run out of negative PSVR links so all he can do is regurgitate old ones.


    @CrimsonGear80

    Isn't it Kinjo that's a die-hard defender of PSVR? I seem to remember him having meltdowns when other users would disagree with him on sales,whether or not it is a gimmick or something, etc. Then there is Spino that flocks to negative posts about it like a habit. Imagine those two going head to head over PSVR sales or whether or not it is a success. I bet it'd be something to watch unfold on here. As for me, I don't have PSVR so I am neutral on it either way, but would want it to catch on and be a success at least.


    dude, ANYONE on this board who doesn't speak constant negativity about Sony and the video game industry in general is a "shill" in the eyes of those clown trolls.


    Coming from a devout Sony apologist such as yourself this doesn't mean much.
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    yahya_no_1 2 days ago#71
    Can you please stop creating alts stating false news that the VR is dead, why do you hate it so much, are you like being paid for this? I don't understand you
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    Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
    Shills: Anyone who has any criticism is a troll!

    Trolls: Anyone who has any positive news is a shill!

    Gotta love it when someone argues one extreme is correct while themselves displaying the opposite extreme as if their "side" acts any better.


    don't fall off that high horse.
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    PsyEd 2 days ago#73
    VR is a niche market. It will never take off unless it becomes super cheap and/or have massive amount of adult content.
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    tzuyd 2 days ago#74
    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

    Given each of them sold as many units in 6 months as Sony expected to sell in 3 months, calling them dead on arrival is clearly disingenuous, though of course nobody knows what their actual expectations were and by extension how that aligns. Presumably higher than what they've sold, given neither of them have released numbers to this day.

    Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
    Learn to math.

    PS4 = $300
    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps4/

    PSVR = $375
    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-vr/buy-now/

    Learn to maths.

    My error of not knowing prices of US products was smaller than your error of generating mythical prices.

    Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
    ... and now MS literally couldn't even bundle the Kinect with the Xbox One.

    I would expect the same to happen if Sony forcefully bundled PSVR 2 with PS5 and sold that at $1,000. Doubt they'd be that stupid.

    KI11AK posted...
    Why are you even mentioning kinect in a vr topic?

    Grasping at straws.
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    (edited 2 days ago)quote
    PsyEd posted...
    VR is a niche market. It will never take off unless it becomes super cheap and/or have massive amount of adult content.


    I agree about the price just being too damn high, that alone is going to leave it dead in the water. Neither the 3DS or PS3 were selling too well back when their prices were high, but when they got a cut they started to take off. And those were actual consoles, not ACCESSORIES to a console, which even at a decent price already rarely do well.

    As for your second point, well, none of the major console manufacturers really allow adult games on their systems... and believe it or not porn isn't always a major driving factor in adaptation of something, IIRC about a decade ago the porn industry actually preferred HD-DVD over Blu-Ray.
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    tzuyd posted...
    PS4 = $300
    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps4/

    PSVR = $375
    https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-vr/buy-now/

    Learn to maths.


    Nice based prices:

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LRLJV28

    PS4 = $260

    You can stop failing at life now.

    I would expect the same to happen if Sony forcefully bundled PSVR 2 with PS5 and sold that at $1,000. Doubt they'd be that stupid.


    Notice how nobody is buying the standalone anymore either...
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    tzuyd 2 days ago#77
    Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
    Nice based prices:

    When basing an argument off of facts, one uses RRP instead of temporary sales prices, unless one is intent on looking like a right dummy. Indeed, my quote for PSVR that comes in at $75 cheaper than your randomly selected numbers was from Amazon anyway, as linked from the manufacturers website.

    You can stop failing at maths, now.

    Notice how nobody is buying the standalone anymore either...

    The Kinect? Are they even being manufactured any more?
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    grasu 2 days ago#78
    CaIiber345 posted...
    Novice User. 
    Troll name. 
    Clickbait topic title. 
    Forbes link. 

    This topic seems legit.


    I often ask myself why people on this board ignore these signs, but then I'm quickly reminded that this board is 95% trolls.
    Chucky86 2 days ago#79
    grasu posted...
    CaIiber345 posted...
    Novice User. 
    Troll name. 
    Clickbait topic title. 
    Forbes link. 

    This topic seems legit.


    I often ask myself why people on this board ignore these signs, but then I'm quickly reminded that this board is 95% trolls.

    I often ignore that as it's not a priority to check them. I think it should be rather clear (most of the time) who is posting crap just to get a rise out of others. Like this topic.
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    AColdOnion 2 days ago#80
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die
    hi
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    You want me to buy you one so you don't have to hate it? Or we can do a Kickstarter.
    OhGoodGrief 2 days ago#82
    What the world needs is 3D VR! Nintendo save us!
    Jedi454 2 days ago#83
    This was expected, it would've been foolish to purchase a PSVR at release.
    OliverQueen 2 days ago#84
    Hollywood nWo posted...
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    You want me to buy you one so you don't have to hate it? Or we can do a Kickstarter.


    Never read this board before? It has some kind of unstable hatred of everything Sony. That's all he posts.
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    OliverQueen posted...
    Hollywood nWo posted...
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    You want me to buy you one so you don't have to hate it? Or we can do a Kickstarter.


    Never read this board before? It has some kind of unstable hatred of everything Sony. That's all he posts.


    Or things they can't afford.
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    And on the XB1 boards you are quick to call out those talking negatively toward the console and cry about Sony fanboys stirring things up. So apparently it's OK for you to do that shit.
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    Ashkeban 2 days ago#87
    I was saving money to buy a PSVR, but after seeing this thread. I changed my mind, and I'm glad I didn't buy a PSVR.
    lunaticcore 2 days ago#88
    PSVR my favorite thing about my PS4.
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    Mud 2 days ago#89
    You implying it was ever alive?
    Your waifu/husbando is faking everything.
    For price its going i bet Sony is making some money per unit sold for sure but i doubt they think 1 million in sales is that amazing.
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    j-tcc 2 days ago#91
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR, which people complained about lol

    So much for being dead.
    j-tcc posted...
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


    Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

    Such confidence on Sony's part.
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    j-tcc 2 days ago#93
    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    j-tcc posted...
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


    Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

    Such confidence on Sony's part.

    So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.
    doodles40 2 days ago#94
    MrBonestripper posted...
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    And on the XB1 boards you are quick to call out those talking negatively toward the console and cry about Sony fanboys stirring things up. So apparently it's OK for you to do that shit.



    He's such a hypocrite.

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    Lvl999 2 days ago#95
    doodles40 posted...
    MrBonestripper posted...
    AColdOnion posted...
    lol PSVR is trash... let it die


    And on the XB1 boards you are quick to call out those talking negatively toward the console and cry about Sony fanboys stirring things up. So apparently it's OK for you to do that shit.



    He's such a hypocrite.

    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/75563665/882888783

    lol 

    trolls MO here is to create bait and S***t topics
    and retreat to xbox board and tell people there that guys in this board are the worst kind of gamers
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    j-tcc posted...
    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    j-tcc posted...
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


    Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

    Such confidence on Sony's part.

    So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.


    Eh, deadish at this point. 

    I doubt people are going to buy a PSVR for that mouse game that everybody has already forgotten about. But hey at least it'll give the fanboys something to (mildly) brag about before reality sinks in.
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    looks like TC isn't coming back. What did I say about that earlier?
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    SiLVeR_420 2 days ago#99
    j-tcc posted...
    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    j-tcc posted...
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


    Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

    Such confidence on Sony's part.

    So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.

    What they did for the vr at this years E3 is tbe same thing they did for the vita at its first e3. Not a good sign.
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    SiLVeR_420 posted...
    j-tcc posted...
    SpinoRaptor24 posted...
    j-tcc posted...
    And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


    Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

    Such confidence on Sony's part.

    So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.

    What they did for the vr at this years E3 is tbe same thing they did for the vita at its first e3. Not a good sign.



    last time I checked they are still selling Vitas....
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      fhunter476 2 days ago#101
      Forbes is not a video game focused website.

      Forbes has anti-adblocker scripts in place. You have to turn off your adblocker to view the content (i.e. let their ads run to make money)

      Forbes consistently posts controversial opinion based click-bait articles when talking about video games. (again, for views to make money)


      If you're taking Forbes as an actual resource for video game news, you've fallen for their trap and making them money at your expense.

      _
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      SiLVeR_420 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


      Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

      Such confidence on Sony's part.

      So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.

      What they did for the vr at this years E3 is tbe same thing they did for the vita at its first e3. Not a good sign.



      last time I checked they are still selling Vitas....


      Last time I checked Vita was still a failure.
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      SomeSayKos 2 days ago#103
      Hollywood nWo posted...
      Who's alt are you TC? Picked a real good time to call it dead with big releases and/or announcements, every week.

      Lol, isn't it obvious?
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      SiLVeR_420 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


      Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

      Such confidence on Sony's part.

      So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.

      What they did for the vr at this years E3 is tbe same thing they did for the vita at its first e3. Not a good sign.



      last time I checked they are still selling Vitas....


      Last time I checked Vita was still a failure.


      but then you also think PSVR is a failure, so you fail at checking things.
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      groz24 2 days ago#105
      I know it goes against popular opinion around here, but I'd probably wait until after this holiday season before even speculating on the future of PSVR. With most of the big name games being pushed into next year already, what games are coming out for people to spend money on? Destiny 2, AC:Egypt, Mario, and probably a few others. It's looking like a paltry lineup for AAA games, which works in PSVRs favor, because I'd be shocked if they don't have sales/permanent price cut for the holiday season, and also, Skyrim VR comes out.

      The accessory has already beaten sales expectations, from what I've heard Sony say. And, personally, I'm more likely to believe that VR will continue to be a success with companies like Facebook, Google, Sony, Steam, HTC and Microsoft all working on it rather than people on here who don't like it.
      I consider psvr to be nothing more than a shitty gimmick but it's clearly not dead yet. There has been a lot of vr compatible/required stuff recently.
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      SiLVeR_420 2 days ago#107
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      SiLVeR_420 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      j-tcc posted...
      And yet we had a section at E3 dedicated to PS VR,


      Which showcased killer apps such as that mouse game and FF fishing.

      Such confidence on Sony's part.

      So you admit it is not dead? Nice to know.

      What they did for the vr at this years E3 is tbe same thing they did for the vita at its first e3. Not a good sign.



      last time I checked they are still selling Vitas....


      Last time I checked Vita was still a failure.


      but then you also think PSVR is a failure, so you fail at checking things.

      For it to presented the exact same way the Vita was its on track to be a failure just like the vita.
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      SiLVeR_420 2 days ago#108
      groz24 posted...
      Skyrim VR comes out.

      Skyrims not gonna move VR units.
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      KI11AK 2 days ago#110
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      tzuyd posted...
      When basing an argument off of facts, one uses RRP instead of temporary sales prices


      First of all, Amazon has had the PS4 for $250-260 SINCE NOVEMBER. I have been checking frequently, it never has gone down since.

      Second, the PSVR's MSRP is $400, the $375 is also a temporary sale price.

      You can stop failing at maths, now. And stop failing at this board while you are at it.

      The Kinect? Are they even being manufactured any more?


      It was still being sold separate after they stopped bundling it for quite a while.
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      groz24 2 days ago#112
      SiLVeR_420 posted...
      groz24 posted...
      Skyrim VR comes out.

      Skyrims not gonna move VR units.


      I disagree, but we'll see in a few months. They're on what, the fourth edition of Skyrim now and it still keeps selling. For reasons I don't quite understand, that game seems to have more legs, staying power and ability to make people keep spending money like no other game I've ever seen beyond GTAV.
      juker79 2 days ago#113
      I expect it to follow recent console trends; where the second holiday season outsells the first. We'll likely see a big fall-off in 2018, unless there is a price reduction. The longevity is TBD, but it should be in good shape at least until the PS5's release.
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      fhunter476 posted...
      Forbes is not a video game focused website.

      Forbes has anti-adblocker scripts in place. You have to turn off your adblocker to view the content (i.e. let their ads run to make money)

      Forbes consistently posts controversial opinion based click-bait articles when talking about video games. (again, for views to make money)


      If you're taking Forbes as an actual resource for video game news, you've fallen for their trap and making them money at your expense.

      _

      well you cant really blame forbes, its more on the headline readers like tc. all these clickbait articles have a "this opinion is of the contributors and not of the website" warning near the very top akin to infomercial warnings
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      EVILBRENDA 2 days ago#115
      How much longer is he going to beat this dead horse?
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      juker79 2 days ago#116
      EVILBRENDA posted...
      How much longer is he going to beat this dead horse?


      LOL, until he can say "I told you so".
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      tzuyd 1 day ago#117
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      First of all, Amazon has had the PS4 for $250-260 SINCE NOVEMBER.

      Not according to Sony.

      Second, the PSVR's MSRP is $400, the $375 is also a temporary sale price.

      Not according to Sony.

      TrashPandaJedi posted...
      For price its going i bet Sony is making some money per unit sold for sure but i doubt they think 1 million in sales is that amazing.

      Actually they anticipated 1 million sales by the end of 2018, now they've doubled those expectations.

      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      looks like TC isn't coming back. What did I say about that earlier?

      Spino started using his regular account.
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      tzuyd posted...
      Not according to Sony.


      Says the one using PSVR sale prices.

      Also, really? You want to argue "Well, Sony says the price is X!" when it has been available for nearly a year at a lower price just to make yourself look like a fool by refusing to admit you were wrong about the price of a PS4?

      Your ENTIRE argument was literally just "Not according to Sony"

      Do you have ANY idea how foolish you made yourself look?
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      trapking 1 day ago#119
      Hopefully the price gets dropped big and I'll pick one up
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      binaryvegeta posted...
      considering they showed a good amount of new games at E3 for VR. I don't think Sony is giving up on VR.


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      MindGamingManti posted...
      binaryvegeta posted...
      considering they showed a good amount of new games at E3 for VR. I don't think Sony is giving up on VR.


      Wish I could reply to this in a few years


      And admit you were wrong?
      MindGamingManti posted...
      binaryvegeta posted...
      considering they showed a good amount of new games at E3 for VR. I don't think Sony is giving up on VR.


      Wish I could reply to this in a few years

      i wonder what lasts longer, your current opinion on vr or your current taste in music
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      Master Alien posted...
      MindGamingManti posted...
      binaryvegeta posted...
      considering they showed a good amount of new games at E3 for VR. I don't think Sony is giving up on VR.


      Wish I could reply to this in a few years

      i wonder what lasts longer, your current opinion on vr or your current taste in music


      Ironic he has Tool in his sig.
      (edited 1 day ago)quote
      tzuyd 1 day ago#124
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      Says the one using PSVR sale prices.

      As found on the Sony official US Playstation site, of which a citation was given.

      You want to argue "Well, Sony says the price is X!"

      The company responsible for creating and manufacturing a product are typically the ones that set their RRP, yes. How bat shit insane do you intend on sounding before finishing up here?
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      tzuyd posted...
      As found on the Sony official US Playstation site, of which a citation was given.


      And how many people purchase those directly from Sony's site?

      You DO realize that it's inanely obvious you are grasping at straws at this point, right? It makes you MUCH more credible to admit when you were wrong than to keep digging yourself deeper with more and more ridiculous claims.

      How bat shit insane do you intend on sounding before finishing up here?


      I should be asking the exact same of you. I SHOWED you a lower price, mentioned how it has remained at this price for nearly a year now, you can use price-tracking sites to even check this.... and this isn't some minor obscure store, it's the largest freaking online store on the planet..... and you are trying to claim "Well, Sony set a different MSRP!".... especially when you YOURSELF was using a lower price since Sony's official MSRP for the PSVR is $400, not $375.

      So not only are you sounding "bat shit insane" yourself... but you are also a hypocrite.

      But I know you, I know people like you DAMN well..... instead of admitting you were wrong, you are going to dig deeper and deeper and continue to be in denial because admitting fault on a forum would be worse than death to you, wouldn't it?

      Calling it now, you are going to respond with a broken record defense of just repeating "B-b-but Sony said so!" followed by more childish insults. You are incapable of responding with anything else.
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      tzuyd 1 day ago#126
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      And how many people purchase those directly from Sony's site?

      Zero. If you bothered to look, you'd see that Sony only lists places of purchase, along with the price. Why do you foolishly argue so vehemently on something you're too lazy to spend 5 seconds looking into, despite your opposition referring to them in every post?

      I should be asking the exact same of you.

      So in other words, so bat shit insane that you think it's the rest of the world that's wrong, including those selling the products you're arguing about. No surprises, all in all.

      I know people like you DAMN well..... instead of admitting you were wrong, you are going to dig deeper and deeper

      Yes, you have to live with yourself. Your projections are nobody elses problem.
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      tzuyd posted...
      Zero. If you bothered to look, you'd see that Sony only lists places of purchase, along with the price.


      And that was my POINT. Arguing "Sony says this price!" is meaningless when it's been sold at a different price forever at major retailers.

      You are the very definition of grasping at straws.

      So in other words, so bat shit insane that you think it's the rest of the world that's wrong, including those selling the products you're arguing about. No surprises, all in all.


      Oh yes, *I* am the insane one, the one who is tossing aside the price the system has been at at the largest online site on the PLANET forever just to argue about MSRPs while in their OWN argument using sale prices.

      Yes, you have to live with yourself. Your projections are nobody elses problem.


      Not only did you utterly fail in attempting to try to come up with any sort of insult there, but you also did EXACTLY what I said you would. People like you could not possibly be any more predictable.

      Do you know what's the most predictable thing of all? The fact that these predictable people are unable to deviate from their predictable behavior even when called out on it. So unable to admit any fault they will even do exactly what others said they will because they are incapable of deviating their stubborn mindset.
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      tzuyd 1 day ago#128
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      Arguing "Sony says this price!" is meaningless
      tzuyd posted...
      The company responsible for creating and manufacturing a product are typically the ones that set their RRP


      Oh yes, *I* am the insane one

      Finally, some sense.



      tzuyd posted...
      How bat s*** insane do you intend on sounding before finishing up here?
      Hillary For Prison 2017
      Twisting words now and purposely quoting stuff out of context?

      Wow, that's gradeschool level writing at this point

      Are you that utterly decimated that you are completely unable to reply anymore?
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      tzuyd 1 day ago#130
      Say something new and interesting that hasn't already been debunked, and you'll get a response to it, as has happened in the past.
      Hillary For Prison 2017
      tzuyd posted...
      Say something new and interesting that hasn't already been debunked, and you'll get a response to it, as has happened in the past.


      Says someting actually valid that I haven't already debunked then.

      Hint: Arguing about Sony's MSRP has already been debunked, several times.
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      loki00_00 1 day ago#132
      I'm looking forward to Skyrim VR.
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      mninp 1 day ago#133
      https://uploadvr.com/sony-video-talks-future-psvr-upgrades-focus-variation/

      TC is clearly trolling.
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      ShippFFXI 1 day ago#134
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      Twisting words now and purposely quoting stuff out of context?

      Wow, that's gradeschool level writing at this point

      Are you that utterly decimated that you are completely unable to reply anymore?

      You've made some pretty bogus statements in this thread. You know, like comparing a fully 3D headset that simulates you actually being in the game to a Kinect camera. You know, the peripheral which has the same purpose as the Playstation camera, which means it can track your movement for certain games, take pictures, and that's about it. 

      Comparing PSVR to Kinect was foolish beyond belief. The Kinect doesn't put 2 screens in front of your eyes to simulate an actual environment surrounding you.
      I feel like they are making some great points, but the name-calling and volcano-based murder-ideation are chipping away at their position somewhat.
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      KI11AK posted...
      SpinoRaptor24 posted...
      tzuyd posted...
      sold twice as fast as both of its superior competitors


      You mean those competitors that were pretty much dead on arrival? 

      Is that something we're supposed to celebrate about?


      If VR was the failure your special self wishes it was, it wouldnt have been around for over 4 years, steadily increasing in both software and user base.


      Yeah, selling only a million units since its release of last year and getting top tier software such as ports, 2 year old ports and 6 year old ports.

      Clearly an astronomical success.


      its higher than amill units sold
      ShippFFXI posted...
      You've made some pretty bogus statements in this thread. You know, like comparing a fully 3D headset that simulates you actually being in the game to a Kinect camera.


      Again, reading comprehension.

      I was pointing out how accessories in general practically never do well, and even those that do only do so for a short while before failing.

      What the accessory IS does not matter, arguing "A motion-tracking infrared camera" (and way to down-sell a camera that is accurate enough to tell your pulse from seeing the chances of tone in yoru skin as blood flows through it) and "fully VR headset" completely misses the point that both are expensive accessories.

      This is ESPECIALLY true when the accessory costs more than the console itself.
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      ShippFFXI 1 day ago#137
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      ShippFFXI posted...
      You've made some pretty bogus statements in this thread. You know, like comparing a fully 3D headset that simulates you actually being in the game to a Kinect camera.


      Again, reading comprehension.

      I was pointing out how accessories in general practically never do well, and even those that do only do so for a short while before failing.

      What the accessory IS does not matter, arguing "A motion-tracking infrared camera" (and way to down-sell a camera that is accurate enough to tell your pulse from seeing the chances of tone in yoru skin as blood flows through it) and "fully VR headset" completely misses the point that both are expensive accessories.

      This is ESPECIALLY true when the accessory costs more than the console itself.

      Yes, I too like to disregard the product's function when erroneously attempting to compare it to a product which isn't comparable.

      Edit: just finished my over watch match and decided to fully read your shitpost. Kinect can determine my pulse accurately and changes in skin tone? Tell that to my copy or Puss in Boots, which is probably the game I've had the most RL to camera to in-game movement success with. 

      Can accurately determine my pulse? Holy shit, this is beyond all comprehension. You realize medical cameras and machines designed FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THAT, can't even accurately do it with retail $70 machines, right?
      I feel like they are making some great points, but the name-calling and volcano-based murder-ideation are chipping away at their position somewhat.
      (edited 23 hours ago)quote
      ShippFFXI posted...
      Yes, I too like to disregard the product's function when erroneously attempting to compare it to a product which isn't comparable.


      https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

      I already explained about success of accessories regardless of their nature.

      Kinect can determine my pulse accurately and changes in skin tone?


      Yes, that's an advertised feature.

      Tell that to my copy or Puss in Boots, which is probably the game I've had the most RL to camera to in-game movement success with.


      https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

      By that logic, if someone used the PSVR and it was never accurate, then it's an inaccurate piece of junk, right?

      Can accurately determine my pulse? Holy shit, this is beyond all comprehension. You realize medical cameras and machines designed FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THAT, can't even accurately do it with retail $70 machines, right?


      Again, advertised feature, and if you spent more than 2 seconds researching, you would have seen this in action.

      Also, medical devices need a bit more precision than a freaking fitness app. Since those are centered around, you know, saving your life, not tracking how many calories you have roughly burned.
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      psnshade71 23 hours ago#139
      Just like 3D it's a fart in the wind.
      M'aiq is tired now, go bother someone else. 
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      ShippFFXI 22 hours ago#140
      Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
      ShippFFXI posted...
      Yes, I too like to disregard the product's function when erroneously attempting to compare it to a product which isn't comparable.


      https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

      I already explained about success of accessories regardless of their nature.

      Kinect can determine my pulse accurately and changes in skin tone?


      Yes, that's an advertised feature.

      Tell that to my copy or Puss in Boots, which is probably the game I've had the most RL to camera to in-game movement success with.


      https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

      By that logic, if someone used the PSVR and it was never accurate, then it's an inaccurate piece of junk, right?

      Can accurately determine my pulse? Holy shit, this is beyond all comprehension. You realize medical cameras and machines designed FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THAT, can't even accurately do it with retail $70 machines, right?


      Again, advertised feature, and if you spent more than 2 seconds researching, you would have seen this in action.

      Also, medical devices need a bit more precision than a freaking fitness app. Since those are centered around, you know, saving your life, not tracking how many calories you have roughly burned.

      Except retail blood pressure cuffs which aren't designed for use with a stethoscope, and the plethora of other medical devices like O2 monitors are used in a pinch when proper equipment isn't available. They still aren't accurate enough, and that is their SOLE purpose. You're telling me that the Kinect (a gaming peripheral) has been medically certified (like all of those other inaccurate devices which are off, but close enough to accurate to pass) to detect a person's pulse by looking at them and judge skintones?


      I'm telling you that's complete bunk. Medical devices sold at $70-100 and designed SOLELY to do those things cannot do them accurately. You're trying to tell me a gaming peripheral can, when that isn't even the designated purpose of it. 

      All so you can shit on the VR headset by fluffing up your ridiculous Xbox camera and claiming it has all of these features. 

      There's no "being accurate" with VR. It presents a surrounding that literally surrounds your vision. If it's not doing that, it's broken. So yeah, if someone came to me and said, "Why golly gee Shipp, when I used the headset, I couldn't rotate my head IRL and have my vision see something different in game," then I'd tell them to try my VR headset since it actually works as intended.
      I feel like they are making some great points, but the name-calling and volcano-based murder-ideation are chipping away at their position somewhat.
      As an owner of it, I'm still enjoying it very much, and they are still releasing interesting games for it, so I'm not sure how it's dead.
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      Gryffindor1 22 hours ago#142
      KoolAssAssassin posted...
      As an owner of it, I'm still enjoying it very much, and they are still releasing interesting games for it, so I'm not sure how it's dead.


      It's not. It's a month old click bait article from a non video game site released before Sony said they will increase support for it and talked about a PSVR 2.
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      dankanefan 22 hours ago#143
      KI11AK posted...
      With more and more games coming out for it, its clearly dead and unsupported.


      There are new games coming out for Vita too. Doesn't mean it isn't dead.
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      CrimsonGear80 22 hours ago#144
      dankanefan posted...
      KI11AK posted...
      With more and more games coming out for it, its clearly dead and unsupported.


      There are new games coming out for Vita too. Doesn't mean it isn't dead.


      a new game came out for super nintendo a couple weeks ago. what's your point?
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      ShippFFXI posted...
      You're telling me that the Kinect (a gaming peripheral) has been medically certified (like all of those other inaccurate devices which are off, but close enough to accurate to pass) to detect a person's pulse by looking at them and judge skintones?


      Medically certified? Of course not, it's can just detect it accurate enough for fitness apps.

      YOU are the one who is going on an insane mad tirade that it can replace medical equipment, I never claimed that.

      Guess what? I have apps on my phone that can detect my pulse using the camera shining the flash through my finger. Can it replace medical devices? Of course not. But does it get a reasonably accurate pulse? Yes, yes it does.

      All so you can shit on the VR headset by fluffing up your ridiculous Xbox camera and claiming it has all of these features.


      No, I repeat, YOU are the one who suddenly lost their marbles and started acting like if it can detect your pulse reasonably well enough for fitness apps, taht must mean I was arguing it can replace hundred to thousand dollar medical equipment.

      There's no "being accurate" with VR. It presents a surrounding that literally surrounds your vision.


      Actually, for the motion/location sensing, both for the headset itself as well as the controllers, yes there is accuracy.
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      Compass 21 hours ago#146
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      dankanefan posted...
      KI11AK posted...
      With more and more games coming out for it, its clearly dead and unsupported.


      There are new games coming out for Vita too. Doesn't mean it isn't dead.


      a new game came out for super nintendo a couple weeks ago. what's your point?

      lol. I like it when Crimson Shill loses track of the argument and starts making points for the other side.
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      CrimsonGear80 21 hours ago#147
      Compass posted...
      CrimsonGear80 posted...
      dankanefan posted...
      KI11AK posted...
      With more and more games coming out for it, its clearly dead and unsupported.


      There are new games coming out for Vita too. Doesn't mean it isn't dead.


      a new game came out for super nintendo a couple weeks ago. what's your point?

      lol. I like it when Crimson Shill loses track of the argument and starts making points for the other side.


      i like when you only read my name and not my posts just so you can call me a "shill". Make yourself look dumb for me.
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      SneakiestNeg 21 hours ago#148
      What's the point of a thread like this? The people who invested in VR aren't going to change their mind. Jesus died people still follow him.

      The people like me who don't give $%&* about VR aren't going to change their mind. Even if it cured cancer.
      GTAVC5947 21 hours ago#149
      Superhot and Archangel came out this week, another game is due out next week, and there have been 3-4 other slightly high-profile titles announced for release within the next 2 months. Plus, Bethesda appears to be going all in with support for Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Doom VFR.

      So, no...not dead...if anything the quality releases are increasing in frequency.
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