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What is your take? - Results (232 votes)
Yes, very soon
0.86%
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Yes, but not till early-mid next year
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Yes, but not till end of next year or even 2019
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No, the Switch has taken over any thought of a new handheld.
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What with the Switch being a hybrid system and Nintendo also being involved with mobile games on smartphones, I'm thinking there's a decent chance of Nintendo not releasing a dedicated handheld this generation, especially considering that we're actually getting a main Pokemon title on Switch; if Nintendo has plans for a dedicated handheld being released any time in the foreseeable future, Game Freak probably wouldn't have made plans to release a Pokemon title on the Switch unless they just don't know about the hypothetical handheld being developed.
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If Switch underperforms then they will announce a new one, otherwise no.
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I don't think they'll make a new line, but they might make a handheld only version of the Switch.
Since it runs at lower specs in handheld mode, I think they could easily provide the same portable experience at a fraction of the price.. (Kind of like going from 3DS to 2DS). I'd expect another 1-2 years on that though.
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I really hope they still have plans for a new one down the road. The Switch is a great system, and it hasn't even come close to hitting it's stride yet, but in my opinion, it's really not a replacement for the Gameboy/DS line. Without a doubt, the Switch can be a handheld device (which is awesome); however, it's really not a portable device. And by that I mean it doesn't fit in my pocket and I can't bounce it off the wall.
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Not easy selling 60 million of handheld these days especially when mobile games cost you a buck.
3ds probably live through 2018 but after that it depends on uncle nin. Most people play switch as home console anyway.
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I think they will. I mean if they don't they are betting everything on the Switch and as a business move that is dangerous. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure what they'll do considering how much of a disaster the features of the Switch are...
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SSjYagami posted...
If Switch underperforms then they will announce a new one, otherwise no. It's selling out as fast as Nintendo can make the damn things. |
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sumostickfigure posted...
What with the Switch being a hybrid system and Nintendo also being involved with mobile games on smartphones, I'm thinking there's a decent chance of Nintendo not releasing a dedicated handheld this generation, especially considering that we're actually getting a main Pokemon title on Switch; if Nintendo has plans for a dedicated handheld being released any time in the foreseeable future, Game Freak probably wouldn't have made plans to release a Pokemon title on the Switch unless they just don't know about the hypothetical handheld being developed. This... I still hope for a backward compatible successor, but I think the same things |
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it was called the 2ds xl if i am not mistaken
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Switch Mini will be their new handheld.
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SS4kronos33 posted...
it was called the 2ds xl if i am not mistaken you are mistaken. when were revisions considered new consoles?
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It's a good question. In Japan, much of Nintendo's success in the new millennium came from the DS and the 3DS lines. Handheld gaming, especially with the likes of Monster Hunter, seems to have a comfortable niche in home territory, and I'm sure they don't want to lose out on that. So the question is also: Is the Switch a decent replacement for 3DS/Vita out in Japan, as far as portability and battery life is concerned?
If it is, I feel Nintendo will not release a dedicated handheld unit. The Switch would be the ultimate compromise, catering to the console-centric west and portable-centric Japan in one go. No more need to split their attentions like last generation, with the failing WiiU and the successful 3DS. Now they put all their eggs in one basket (ok, and a dip into the mobile games market). And that would be the immediate future for Nintendo. |
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I find it funny that when I posted a while back that the 3ds was dead and the Switch replaced it everyone attacked me and said the Switch was too expensive for a handheld and Nintendo still needed something cheap for younger gamers who needed a starter system. Now I come here and the poll shows like 70% of people have flipped and say the Switch has killed the 3ds or any possible future handheld.
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xoftheuniverse posted...
I think they will. I mean if they don't they are betting everything on the Switch and as a business move that is dangerous. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure what they'll do considering how much of a disaster the features of the Switch are... Not any different from what Sony and Microsoft are doing. If anything, their failure to bring titles to the Wii U should show that a corporation supporting two consoles just isn't viable anymore. Given Nintendo's success in the home console market is really just limited to the NES line and the Wii, it doesn't seem odd for Nintendo the ditch that part of the market. The Switch is hardly shown docked in advertisements in Japan, and I imagine as years go by it will be advertised more as a handheld when a PS5 comes around. promero14 posted... Most likey they will release a switch mini (hardware should be cheaper) Smaller and cheaper don't coexist in the world of technology, at least if you want the same power. To take the power of a device and put it into a smaller space is going to cost more. Unless we are talking about post 2020, I don't see that happening with the Switch and still be profitable (Each unit costs 250 to produce, and then you have the retail middle man). At least not before a successor comes around. |
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I really think that maybe late next year or in 2019 Nintendo will reveal or at least reveal plans for a Switch Mini, and that will be how they go forward in the future.
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Given Nintendo's success in the home console market is really just limited to the NES line and the Wii, it doesn't seem odd for Nintendo the ditch that part of the market. The Switch is hardly shown docked in advertisements in Japan, and I imagine as years go by it will be advertised more as a handheld when a PS5 comes around. That's strange. I've never used my Switch undocked. I like to play it on a big tv and when i go out im either working or busy. Plus the games are $60, which right there tells me they consider this their next home console. Handheld games have historically always been $30-40. If the Switch somehow became handheld only (which it won't) i'd probably not buy the new version.
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TheDreadedZero posted...
That's strange. I've never used my Switch undocked. I like to play it on a big tv and when i go out im either working or busy. Plus the games are $60, which right there tells me they consider this their next home console. Handheld games have historically always been $30-40. If the Switch somehow became handheld only (which it won't) i'd probably not buy the new version. Switch is supposed to be whatever you make it to be. I'm not trying to discourage that, I play it mostly docked as well. Handheld games used to cost less because they historically cost less to make. However, when the Vita was introduced in 2011 making a game take full use of it's power can take a AAA budget, yet the games are still expected to be sold one-third less than games on the PS3 with a very similar budget. Many large publishers stopped supporting the console within it's first few years because the profit just wasn't enough. And if they wanted to make a game with a smaller budget, well, the 3DS has a larger install base. |
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there's a ton of switch games that are 30 - 40. I wonder why people ignore that?
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IrateGameFAQer posted...
there's a ton of switch games that are 30 - 40. I wonder why people ignore that? I guess those games aren't really worth talking about.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
SSjYagami posted...If Switch underperforms then they will announce a new one, otherwise no. Artificial scarcity. Regardless, that doesn't mean it will reach Nintendo's goal which will surely be quite lofty, seeing as this hybrid is now accounting for both their home and portable sales. I doubt it will even live up to GBA levels of sales in the end, let alone that plus a console's. To put things in perspective, NS would need to outsell Nintendo's worst performing portable and home console sales combined just to make it worth it. That is 3DS's ~67m & Wii U's ~14m. Unless NS hits at least ~81m they're not even going to break even on what they could make with having a home console and potable on the market simultaneously. I personally think they can at least hit GBA numbers again with a dedicated portable, which is coincidentally ~81. 150+m like DS won't happen again thanks to mobile but 80m is a realistic goal. They can probably muster NGC sales numbers again for a dedicated home console, ~21m. If Nintendo thinks along these lines then they probably expect NS to sell 101+ million. TLDR: NS has to do insanely well, far better than it currently is, for Nintendo to consider maintaining their current path with hybrids. It has to eclipse their potential sales of both home and portables, which is hard to do, even if NS is doing well because it isn't being judged by Nintendo as single console but as two.
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SSjYagami posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...SSjYagami posted...If Switch underperforms then they will announce a new one, otherwise no. I don't see how this is a major problem when Sony and Microsoft have been doing just fine with a single console. What's more, Nintendo can push the Switch better if they are 100% dedicated to it, and not split priorities like the 3DS and Wii U. You know, their worst selling handheld and home console. As I said before, it's just the climate of gaming. It's too hard for even a powerhouse like Nintendo to provide support on two consoles at once. This isn't the 90s anymore where Sega was able to support 7 consoles at once.
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If they do then the Switch would be pretty much doomed, it's library is already spread extremely thin when pretty much all games of interest end up on the 3DS.
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hatemakingnames posted...
I don't think they'll make a new line, but they might make a handheld only version of the Switch. Remove the most of the radios, because the 'joycons' would be molded into the casing, and there's already a significant cost-savings. Probably won't need the USB (dock) port on the bottom either. |
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themegaman7 posted...
If they do then the Switch would be pretty much doomed, it's library is already spread extremely thin when pretty much all games of interest end up on the 3DS. sonic mania's getting a 3DS release? botw too? holy s***. got a source for this?
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Sadly I doubt Nintendo will make another handheld system, they think the switch is the answer to console and portable, another experiment that is only taking them out of the gaming race more then ever.
Wii was a success due to the novelty and because it complemented another system.
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Offworlder1 posted...
They think the switch is the answer to console and portable. They've expressed differently.
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Sacred_Arfaid posted...
Offworlder1 posted...They think the switch is the answer to console and portable. When ?, last I heard Nintendo was firmly in the belief that switch was a hybrid console because they wanted console and portable all in one.
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IrateGameFAQer posted...
there's a ton of switch games that are 30 - 40. I wonder why people ignore that? Those are budget titles, digital games, indies, ports, etc. The standard price for the average Switch game is $60. Mario is $60. Zelda is $60. Even third party titles are $60 as long as they're big budget. My point is, even if there are some games that are $30 or $40, it's more of a console because you'll never see 3ds games being $60. The only reason some console games are cheaper is because like i said, they're ports or smaller games. Yakuza Kiwami just came out on ps4 and that's $30. It happens sometimes. But portable games are never $60. Unless it's like a limited edition bundle with extras, so that doesn't count. Basically, console games can be any price from $0-60, and handheld games can be any price from $0 to $40. Pointing out some cheaper console games and claiming that means it's a handheld is ridiculous.
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Yes they will. Its in there blood
Even if its a switch hybrid The SwitchDS sounds about right Lol at the people saying NO Edit: some time late next year or 2019. Mark thy words
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Offworlder1 posted...
Sadly I doubt Nintendo will make another handheld system, they think the switch is the answer to console and portable, another experiment that is only taking them out of the gaming race more then ever. They think it's the answer until Switch sales die down, then they'll make a successor to a proven system with a gigantic install base. Remember when they said they weren't going to stop making the Wii-U, and then did a few months later? Nintendo is just spewing typical PR... Of course they're going to say the Switch is the future, they want it to sell. If it doesn't, expect another handheld. Nintendo told us the DS was merely a third pillar and not replacing the GBA. We know how well that went.
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The problem with a 3DS successor is that you need to consider how limited your options are when your home console counterpart has the architecture of a portable device.
If the two consoles are so similar in power, then Nintendo would have to split it's resources straight down the middle. (If it's too weak, it will fail in the market for not even standing up for a f***ing smart phone). We would have two console with nearly identical specs in the market at the same time with the only difference being that each one has a separate gimmick. No matter how you spin it, it's an awful idea. If a Third Party made a game for one console, they might as well port it to the other. The only reason people want a 3DS successor is so they can make sure a few niche franchises are covered. As much as I love Etrian Odyssey, it's not a system seller. Pokemon and Fire Emblem, games that work perfectly fine on a single screen, are system sellers. |
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TheDreadedZero posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...there's a ton of switch games that are 30 - 40. I wonder why people ignore that? where in the rule book does it say handheld games have to be that price? and the system is a handheld whether you want to acknowledge it or not. fact is there are games in the "handheld" price range, just because you're being willfully ignorant doesn't change that.
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IrateGameFAQer posted...
where in the rule book does it say handheld games have to be that price? It's more of a standard. I'm pretty sure the Switch is adopting the console standard of $60. It doesn't require all games to be $60, but it will likely cost $60 to buy games that would normally cost $40 on handhelds.
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Sacred_Arfaid posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...where in the rule book does it say handheld games have to be that price? ^ This. It's not that hard to understand. And I already explained why a handful of lower priced games doesn't make it a handheld. No handheld in the past 30 years has ever priced its games at $60. Why? Because that defeats the purpose of portables being smaller, less expensive, and easier to get games for. They're supposed to be a less expensive alternative to consoles. No matter how good the tech in handhelds get, the games will never be more than $40. Look at the Vita. It was basically ps3 graphics on a portable. The games were still $30-40. Clearly you didn't read anything I said and are just content with remaining ignorant.
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We need a HDS.
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TheDreadedZero posted...
Sacred_Arfaid posted...IrateGameFAQer posted...where in the rule book does it say handheld games have to be that price? i read everything fine. you seem to think "Standards" don't change and use arbitrary markers to prop up your agenda.
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If the Pokemon game that the Switch is getting is Pokemon Gen VIII, I'd say a dedicated handheld would be very unlikely.
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zxxcman posted...
If the Pokemon game that the Switch is getting is Pokemon Gen VIII, I'd say a dedicated handheld would be very unlikely. Unless it's ported.
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Sacred_Arfaid posted...
zxxcman posted...If the Pokemon game that the Switch is getting is Pokemon Gen VIII, I'd say a dedicated handheld would be very unlikely. I said unlikely, not impossible.
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zxxcman posted...
Sacred_Arfaid posted...zxxcman posted...If the Pokemon game that the Switch is getting is Pokemon Gen VIII, I'd say a dedicated handheld would be very unlikely. I think the ability to port makes the likelihood better.
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Sacred_Arfaid posted...
zxxcman posted...Sacred_Arfaid posted...zxxcman posted...If the Pokemon game that the Switch is getting is Pokemon Gen VIII, I'd say a dedicated handheld would be very unlikely. And I still say it's unlikely because Pokemon is one of the most important system sellers for Nintendo handhelds. They'd probably want every copy of the new Pokemon game to be selling a handheld as well, having another portable system with the same game available on it wouldn't do so well for that agenda. And a mainline Pokemon game releasing within 2-3 years of the system's release kinda indicates that as far as Nintendo's concerned, the Switch would be what they're using for the handheld market. At least that's how I view the matter.
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