Friday, August 11, 2017

Remind me again why Nintendo fans are always bashing on western styled games.

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sylawaatch 19 hours ago#1
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.
BlueDsc 19 hours ago#2
I'm a Nintendo fan and I don't bash western styled games.
NeoMonk 19 hours ago#3
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sylawaatch 19 hours ago#4
NeoMonk posted...
aSpfSnq

This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers.
DiscostewSM 19 hours ago#5
sylawaatch posted...
NeoMonk posted...
aSpfSnq

This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers.

Which people?
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sylawaatch 19 hours ago#6
DiscostewSM posted...
sylawaatch posted...
NeoMonk posted...
aSpfSnq

This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers.

Which people?

Are you baiting me to pull the tag a bunch of random people gimmick like so many new account trolls have done today? No thanks.
Starwars4J 19 hours ago#7
I'm generally not a fan of western styled games. While Breath of the Wild has taken some inspiration from them, it's still not suffering from the problems I have. I don't like many (not all) western styled games because they're made by western developers, but because of certain characteristics which are common among them.
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MoreRpgs 19 hours ago#8
They do?
RoyalDroneX 19 hours ago#9
sylawaatch posted...

Are you baiting me to pull the tag a bunch of random people gimmick like so many new account trolls have done today? No thanks.

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HayashiTakara 19 hours ago#10
I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from?
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RoyalDroneX 18 hours ago#11
HayashiTakara posted...
I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from?

apparently TC thinks that people hating games like CoD or Fallout means we hate western gaming
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Seacliff217 18 hours ago#12
Isn't Metroid Prime developed by Retro Studios, a western development studio?

Nintendo games lake games from western developers, but I only see minor disinterest at worst when they come to Nintendo platforms.
Ralizah 18 hours ago#13
I don't hate all Western games, I just don't like certain design trends and philosophies you tend to see in big AAA efforts. BotW has almost none of the issues I tend to associate with Western open-world games, either.
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1shadetail1 18 hours ago#14
Troll topic, making an insulting false generalization about the people who post here.
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n00bsaib0t 18 hours ago#15
sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.

There isn't much in BOTW that wasn't in a Zelda game before.

And that's ignoring that you're pretending the Nintendo fanbase is a hivemind and using the opinion of like two people to justify it.
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Stefan1277 17 hours ago#17
I have read stuff like "why does x nintendo console has no x western game?" and the answer of the board is "x western game SUCKS!".

I don't think it would be hate against western games specifically but rather a "we don't have it at hand, therefore it sucks" kind of mentality. However, other board suffer from a similar thing but with a twist. They don't hate on Mario games per se, they just like to say that nintendo should go broke so they can play nintendo games with the consoles they have (PS4/Xbone). 

So, as you can see, I don't think it's... hate but rather them justifying the fact that they don't have these games available.
BadDecisions 15 hours ago#18
Stefan1277 posted...
I don't think it would be hate against western games specifically but rather a "we don't have it at hand, therefore it sucks" kind of mentality.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. 
It's just kids that choose one console and then have to fight to justify that choice, even to themselves. It happens on the other console boards as well, but not quite as much because they have a wider variety of games than the WiiU did/Switch presently does. It comes from a place of not wanting to be wrong and not fully knowing what the other choices are like, like how open world games had no strong appeal for them until BotW did it and now they have it and have experienced it and they're like, "Wow, cool."
BadDecisions 15 hours ago#19
Also, Dragon's Dogma makes me bust a fat nut because it plays with the tightness of a Japanese game but uses largely Western/European monster designs. 10/10, best fusion. Get it on PC if you can, if not get it wherever you can.
forte 14 hours ago#20
I'm a Nintendo fan (also a Sony fan) and I friggin love a good western title. Borderlands, Red Dead, Alien Isolation, Dead Space. I could go on.

Switch would do well to grab a few western titles for its library. Dead Space trilogy HD Collection anyone?
BoundHunters 14 hours ago#21
remind me again why people like TC make assumptions by grouping everyone in together
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BlueDsc posted...
I'm a Nintendo fan and I don't bash western styled games.

Same, I focus on praising games I like instead of bashing games and spreading negativity.
sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.



bait... topic indeed

no one on nintendo board truely bashes games to most part

tho if you backtrack post you can find trolls trolling on nintendo board
so odds are your talking about a troll who is basicly trying start a community war by acting like their a fan and bashing another game type

thus this topic is still bait as theirs not that many of them and its pretty easy to keep track of them
trolling
apparently unpopular opinion if reported as trolling is trolling on gamefaqs
DreTam2000 13 hours ago#24
BOTW isn't what it is because it is naturally inspired by western games. It is what it is because Nintendo consciously decided to toss some western elements in to maybe lure some potentially new fans, and also because of how many ways they've already done Zelda in the past. 


Nintendo will not be supporting western developers much in this gen (per usual), and rightfully so.
Hakurai 12 hours ago#25
Well @sylawaatch

This topic is a flopic. I don't know what you were thinking when making this topic
MoreRpgs posted...
They do?

HayashiTakara posted...
I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from?
DeZAniceguy 11 hours ago#26
nintendo fans are pretty much the same people who caused the great video game crash

they are a depraved and immoral people who have broken the law and must pay.

i sentence you to

100 lashes

to be carried out immediately
OdaNobuna 11 hours ago#27
I just don't buy 99% of them.
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Megaman Omega 11 hours ago#28
sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.


Wrong. In many aspects it's actually more like the first Zelda game than any other Zelda game after that.

sylawaatch posted...
This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers.


[citation needed]
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ROB45 8 hours ago#29
This must be why Retro Studios is regarded so poorly.
BowserNeo 8 hours ago#30
Of course as soon as someone comes into criticize Nintendo the usual fanboys like DiscostewSM and NeoMonk show up and start s***ting everywhere. 

...and that's the Switch boards for ya'll.
kislev 7 hours ago#31
Japan is western in terms of culture
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chex81 7 hours ago#32
I wish we had more western styled games on the Switch
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Funcoland 7 hours ago#33
This isn't a thing exclusive to Nintendo fans. There's a lot of hate for Western developers on the PS4 boards, too.

Me? Unless it's Bethesda (both as a publisher and developer) or CD Projekt Red, I genuinely don't care for AAA Western games. But I'm also not a fan of a lot of Japanese developers either.
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emagdnE 7 hours ago#34
Longtime Nintendo fan here.

Blizzard has been my favorite developer after Nintendo fell from grace.
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Crappy 7 hours ago#35
This Topic sucks
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BowserNeo posted...
Of course as soon as someone comes into criticize Nintendo the usual fanboys like DiscostewSM and NeoMonk show up and start s***ting everywhere. 

...and that's the Switch boards for ya'll.


And nothing of value was added in your comment...
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NintendoWitch 6 hours ago#37
NintendoGamer83 posted...
BowserNeo posted...
Of course as soon as someone comes into criticize Nintendo the usual fanboys like DiscostewSM and NeoMonk show up and start s***ting everywhere. 

...and that's the Switch boards for ya'll.


And nothing of value was added in your comment...
Go away
Pharsti01 6 hours ago#38
Ive seen Nintendo fanboys hate on everything thats mature, not colourful enough or simply because its not on their system of choice... but on western games in general?

Cant say ive seen that one... but if there are any, apply the same rule as for fanboys of anything... theyre morons and morons say moronic stuff.
sylawaatch 6 hours ago#39
kislev posted...
Japan is western in terms of culture

Um no.
sylawaatch 6 hours ago#40
DeZAniceguy posted...
nintendo fans are pretty much the same people who caused the great video game crash

they are a depraved and immoral people who have broken the law and must pay.

i sentence you to

100 lashes

to be carried out immediately

Hi DeZA!! I agree! These bad fans need to be punished.
Kyoshiro12345 6 hours ago#41
I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights, those are what western games look like, not the trash they are making today, thats what i dislike, how in late 80s and 90s western games were great even for us Japanese gamer, and now this day and age have become lazy and trash.
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sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.


I was under the impression that as far as Nintendo is concerned, Western gaming doesn't exist.
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stop3 5 hours ago#44
We're not always bashing western style games. We love them!

Other than Nintendo games my recent favorites are Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and No Man's Sky.
Banjo2553 5 hours ago#45
NeoMonk posted...
aSpfSnq

Never seen this version before, got me laughing.
What a pointless topic.
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Stinker 5 hours ago#47
Hakurai posted...
Well @sylawaatch

This topic is a flopic. I don't know what you were thinking when making this topic
MoreRpgs posted...
They do?

HayashiTakara posted...
I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from?

Crappy posted...
This Topic sucks

SwordsmanOrion posted...
What a pointless topic.
MWXIII 5 hours ago#48
If anything most of this board has been wanting western games.
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ReggieCeo 4 hours ago#49
MWXIII posted...
If anything most of this board has been wanting western games.

SwordsmanOrion posted...
What a pointless topic.
amerk 4 hours ago#50
sylawaatch posted...
Are you baiting me to pull the tag a bunch of random people gimmick like so many new account trolls have done today? No thanks.


The burden of proof falls on you if you want to convince anybody this topic is anything but troll bait. You made a claim that many find unfounded, and appear to insist that people believe you without evidence to back up your claim.

One or two people bashing on Western games does not equate to Nintendo Fans all hating Western games.
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    sylawaatch 5 hours ago#51
    @SwordsmanOrion posted...
    What a pointless topic.

    What a pointless post.
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    Fighter1st 5 hours ago#52
    Remind me again, who is doing this?
    sylawaatch 5 hours ago#53
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41
    ReggieCeo 5 hours ago#54
    sylawaatch posted...
    @SwordsmanOrion posted...
    What a pointless topic.

    What a pointless post.

    What a pointless quote
    RockrrGirrl19 4 hours ago#55
    One of my favourite games of all times is Gears of War (1) online.

    Take that as you will.
    Fighter1st 4 hours ago#56
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41

    "I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
    try harder
    Username2016 4 hours ago#57
    ReggieCeo posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    @SwordsmanOrion posted...
    What a pointless topic.

    What a pointless post.

    What a pointless quote

    What a pointless word
    sylawaatch 4 hours ago#58
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41

    "I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
    try harder

    Oh good you read the first sentence. 

    Close your account.
    sylawaatch 4 hours ago#59
    ReggieCeo posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    @SwordsmanOrion posted...
    What a pointless topic.

    What a pointless post.

    What a pointless quote

    What a pointless reply.
    Fighter1st 4 hours ago#60
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41

    "I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
    try harder

    Oh good you read the first sentence. 

    Close your account.

    Oh good, you're a worthless troll.
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    sylawaatch 4 hours ago#61
    RockrrGirrl19 posted...
    One of my favourite games of all times is Gears of War (1) online.

    Take that as you will.

    MS has great exclusives. People just like hating on them because they are made in Murica. 

    Halo, Gears, Forza, Recore, and Sunset Overdrive s*** on titles like Ni No Kumi and Disagea.
    sylawaatch 4 hours ago#62
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41

    "I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
    try harder

    Oh good you read the first sentence. 

    Close your account.

    Oh good, you're a worthless troll.
    T r y h a r d er

    You can't read apparently. 

    The mods need to purge users like you.
    Fighter1st 4 hours ago#63
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    sylawaatch posted...
    Fighter1st posted...
    Remind me again, who is doing this?

    Go look at post #41

    "I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
    try harder

    Oh good you read the first sentence. 

    Close your account.

    Oh good, you're a worthless troll.
    T r y h a r d er

    You can't read apparently. 

    The mods need to purge users like you.

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    Kuksenkov 2 hours ago#64
    I do bash some developers regardless of where they're from, but throughout the Seventh Generation (and the current one to an extent) many Western developers/publishers monopolized the industry with their crappy games and practices. Its because of them that microtransactions, day one patches, unfinished products being released, season passes, and all of that nasty stuff became the norm. They promoted all of those practices and were not consumer friendly enough to put an end to that BS. THATS MY ISSUE WITH THEM.
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    Viktormoros 2 hours ago#65
    I don't go out of my way to bash them, but I prefer my games to be more "video gamey" and less cinematic. A lot of western games try too hard to give an "epic story" or "realistic graphics" and that's fine for people that like that, but it's just not my thing.

    There are exceptions to this obviously since I play way too many games of all varieties. For example I really enjoyed Titanfall 2, Injustice, Prey, and Halo 5. (for more recent examples.)

    I don't think it's really "western" games that are the problem. There's good and bad games on both sides.
    Kyoshiro12345 2 hours ago#66
    so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?
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    Crappy 2 hours ago#67
    Kyoshiro12345 posted...
    so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?

    Don't worry. TC needs to go back to school because TC can't read anymore
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    KJP3 1 hour ago#68
    I actually prefer western gaming, but that's just me
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    KJP3 posted...
    I actually prefer western gaming, but that's just me

    yeah but even the old elder scrolls for pc were tons better than anything made past 2005.
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    PS4Warrior 1 hour ago#71
    Kyoshiro12345 posted...
    so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?

    What is there for him to refute? You based it on two games that were RPGs. Just because you don't like current western games doesn't mean they're bad games.
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    PS4Warrior posted...
    Kyoshiro12345 posted...
    so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?

    What is there for him to refute? You based it on two games that were RPGs. Just because you don't like current western games doesn't mean they're bad games.

    TC stated that we bash EVERY western game, and i [presented a point that prior to 2006 moast western games ere good even here in Japan, and no one has come to defend todays trash games.
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    n00bsaib0t 1 hour ago#73
    kirbyhoakage posted...
    nintendo fans think they and nintendo are holier then thou. 

    They are basically delusional.

    Too bad this is contradicted by everyone else's posts here.
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    Kyoshiro12345 57 minutes ago#74
    kirbyhoakage posted...
    nintendo fans think they and nintendo are holier then thou. 

    They are basically delusional.


    Ultima
    Eye of the beholder
    the spine of the world
    Baldurs Gate
    Neverwinter nights
    pre 2006 elder scrolls

    any one of those are tons better than what you see today, i havent got a chance to buy a western rpg on my ps4pro because there are none worth playing even if free.
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    Terotrous 55 minutes ago#75
    Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.

    One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.

    What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.
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    Kyoshiro12345 39 minutes ago#76
    Terotrous posted...
    Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.

    One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.

    What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.

    no what killed western rpgs was the forcing first person view, that didnt exist on the true western rpgs when they were good. i mean look at wow, you can see your character and thats why its been making money for generations.
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    Technickal1 37 minutes ago#77
    I mostly see the opposite, with people bashing on "weeb" games.
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    _Candice_ 14 minutes ago#78
    I like how all the token defenders are pretending they didnt bash western devs for years because of cinematics, microtransactions, DLC and graphics over gameplay arguments. You guys still deny it even when gamefaqs archives your horses***. All you have to do is type "Western" in the topic search bar. 

    Give it up, you lose.
    Kyoshiro12345 10 minutes ago#79
    _Candice_ posted...
    I like how all the token defenders are pretending they didnt bash western devs for years because of cinematics, microtransactions, DLC and graphics over gameplay arguments. You guys still deny it even when gamefaqs archives your horses***. All you have to do is type "Western" in the topic search bar. 

    Give it up, you lose.

    whos Token?
    i know he def not R A Salvatore.
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    kinggravy 9 minutes ago#80
    Kyoshiro12345 posted...
    Terotrous posted...
    Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.

    One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.

    What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.

    no what killed western rpgs was the forcing first person view, that didnt exist on the true western rpgs when they were good. i mean look at wow, you can see your character and thats why its been making money for generations.


    If you go back far enough, RPGs started with first person dungeon crawlers like Ultima. I don't really think view point is the problem. There are actually quite a lot of awful, generic MMOs from the east that tried to ride off the success of WoW.

    In general though, I'd say the difference in eastern and western attitudes has been that eastern devs treat it like an art and western devs treat it like a business. JP devs envision a game, craft the game that they envisioned as close to perfection as possible, and hope that fans enjoy their vision. Western devs create a product, tailor that product to what they think fans want, and shove in as much content as possible even if it isn't perfect.
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