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When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them.
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NeoMonk posted...
This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers.
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DiscostewSM posted...
sylawaatch posted...NeoMonk posted... Are you baiting me to pull the tag a bunch of random people gimmick like so many new account trolls have done today? No thanks.
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I'm generally not a fan of western styled games. While Breath of the Wild has taken some inspiration from them, it's still not suffering from the problems I have. I don't like many (not all) western styled games because they're made by western developers, but because of certain characteristics which are common among them.
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sylawaatch posted...
the ball's in your court
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HayashiTakara posted...
I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from? apparently TC thinks that people hating games like CoD or Fallout means we hate western gaming
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I don't hate all Western games, I just don't like certain design trends and philosophies you tend to see in big AAA efforts. BotW has almost none of the issues I tend to associate with Western open-world games, either.
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sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them. There isn't much in BOTW that wasn't in a Zelda game before. And that's ignoring that you're pretending the Nintendo fanbase is a hivemind and using the opinion of like two people to justify it.
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I have read stuff like "why does x nintendo console has no x western game?" and the answer of the board is "x western game SUCKS!".
I don't think it would be hate against western games specifically but rather a "we don't have it at hand, therefore it sucks" kind of mentality. However, other board suffer from a similar thing but with a twist. They don't hate on Mario games per se, they just like to say that nintendo should go broke so they can play nintendo games with the consoles they have (PS4/Xbone). So, as you can see, I don't think it's... hate but rather them justifying the fact that they don't have these games available.
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Stefan1277 posted...
I don't think it would be hate against western games specifically but rather a "we don't have it at hand, therefore it sucks" kind of mentality. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. It's just kids that choose one console and then have to fight to justify that choice, even to themselves. It happens on the other console boards as well, but not quite as much because they have a wider variety of games than the WiiU did/Switch presently does. It comes from a place of not wanting to be wrong and not fully knowing what the other choices are like, like how open world games had no strong appeal for them until BotW did it and now they have it and have experienced it and they're like, "Wow, cool." |
sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them. bait... topic indeed no one on nintendo board truely bashes games to most part tho if you backtrack post you can find trolls trolling on nintendo board so odds are your talking about a troll who is basicly trying start a community war by acting like their a fan and bashing another game type thus this topic is still bait as theirs not that many of them and its pretty easy to keep track of them
trolling
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BOTW isn't what it is because it is naturally inspired by western games. It is what it is because Nintendo consciously decided to toss some western elements in to maybe lure some potentially new fans, and also because of how many ways they've already done Zelda in the past.
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Well @sylawaatch
This topic is a flopic. I don't know what you were thinking when making this topic MoreRpgs posted... They do? HayashiTakara posted... I don't bash on western games, where is this coming from? |
sylawaatch posted...
When Breath of the Wild was heavily inspired by them. Wrong. In many aspects it's actually more like the first Zelda game than any other Zelda game after that. sylawaatch posted... This isn't bait. People on this board are always bashing on western developers. [citation needed]
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This isn't a thing exclusive to Nintendo fans. There's a lot of hate for Western developers on the PS4 boards, too.
Me? Unless it's Bethesda (both as a publisher and developer) or CD Projekt Red, I genuinely don't care for AAA Western games. But I'm also not a fan of a lot of Japanese developers either.
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BowserNeo posted...
Of course as soon as someone comes into criticize Nintendo the usual fanboys like DiscostewSM and NeoMonk show up and start s***ting everywhere. And nothing of value was added in your comment...
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NintendoGamer83 posted...
BowserNeo posted...Of course as soon as someone comes into criticize Nintendo the usual fanboys like DiscostewSM and NeoMonk show up and start s***ting everywhere.
Go away
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Ive seen Nintendo fanboys hate on everything thats mature, not colourful enough or simply because its not on their system of choice... but on western games in general?
Cant say ive seen that one... but if there are any, apply the same rule as for fanboys of anything... theyre morons and morons say moronic stuff. |
kislev posted...
Japan is western in terms of culture Um no.
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DeZAniceguy posted...
nintendo fans are pretty much the same people who caused the great video game crash Hi DeZA!! I agree! These bad fans need to be punished.
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I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights, those are what western games look like, not the trash they are making today, thats what i dislike, how in late 80s and 90s western games were great even for us Japanese gamer, and now this day and age have become lazy and trash.
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NeoMonk posted...
Never seen this version before, got me laughing.
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Hakurai posted...
Well @sylawaatch |
sylawaatch posted...
Are you baiting me to pull the tag a bunch of random people gimmick like so many new account trolls have done today? No thanks. The burden of proof falls on you if you want to convince anybody this topic is anything but troll bait. You made a claim that many find unfounded, and appear to insist that people believe you without evidence to back up your claim. One or two people bashing on Western games does not equate to Nintendo Fans all hating Western games. |
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@SwordsmanOrion posted...What a pointless topic.
What a pointless post.I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifFighter1st posted...Remind me again, who is doing this?
Go look at post #41I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifsylawaatch posted...@SwordsmanOrion posted...
What a pointless topic.
What a pointless post.
What a pointless quoteReggieCeo posted...sylawaatch posted...
@SwordsmanOrion posted...
What a pointless topic.
What a pointless post.
What a pointless quote
What a pointless wordFighter1st posted...sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
Remind me again, who is doing this?
Go look at post #41
"I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
try harder
Oh good you read the first sentence.
Close your account.I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifReggieCeo posted...sylawaatch posted...
@SwordsmanOrion posted...
What a pointless topic.
What a pointless post.
What a pointless quote
What a pointless reply.I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifsylawaatch posted...Fighter1st posted...
sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
Remind me again, who is doing this?
Go look at post #41
"I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
try harder
Oh good you read the first sentence.
Close your account.
Oh good, you're a worthless troll.T r y h a r d er
RockrrGirrl19 posted...One of my favourite games of all times is Gears of War (1) online.
Take that as you will.
MS has great exclusives. People just like hating on them because they are made in Murica.
Halo, Gears, Forza, Recore, and Sunset Overdrive s*** on titles like Ni No Kumi and Disagea.I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifFighter1st posted...sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
Remind me again, who is doing this?
Go look at post #41
"I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
try harder
Oh good you read the first sentence.
Close your account.
Oh good, you're a worthless troll.T r y h a r d er
You can't read apparently.
The mods need to purge users like you.I woke up like dih!
http://abload.de/img/1255ns2d.gifsylawaatch posted...Fighter1st posted...
sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
sylawaatch posted...
Fighter1st posted...
Remind me again, who is doing this?
Go look at post #41
"I love the Baldurs gate, and spine of the world series including Neverwinter nights"
try harder
Oh good you read the first sentence.
Close your account.
Oh good, you're a worthless troll.T r y h a r d er
You can't read apparently.
The mods need to purge users like you.
https://media.giphy.com/media/tOvSJhOalnNss/giphy-facebook_s.jpgI do bash some developers regardless of where they're from, but throughout the Seventh Generation (and the current one to an extent) many Western developers/publishers monopolized the industry with their crappy games and practices. Its because of them that microtransactions, day one patches, unfinished products being released, season passes, and all of that nasty stuff became the norm. They promoted all of those practices and were not consumer friendly enough to put an end to that BS. THATS MY ISSUE WITH THEM.Friend Code: 2509 - 6525 - 4105 NNID: Roentgen GT: EdgeMaverick2009 PSN: KuksenkovI don't go out of my way to bash them, but I prefer my games to be more "video gamey" and less cinematic. A lot of western games try too hard to give an "epic story" or "realistic graphics" and that's fine for people that like that, but it's just not my thing.
There are exceptions to this obviously since I play way too many games of all varieties. For example I really enjoyed Titanfall 2, Injustice, Prey, and Halo 5. (for more recent examples.)
I don't think it's really "western" games that are the problem. There's good and bad games on both sides.Kyoshiro12345 posted...so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?
Don't worry. TC needs to go back to school because TC can't read anymoreHi y'all. I'm Cappy, the Cap ghost. I transform into Mario's torn hat in Super Mario Odyssey. I'm the reason why Mario can posses or 'CAP-ture' enemies.Kyoshiro12345 posted...so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?
What is there for him to refute? You based it on two games that were RPGs. Just because you don't like current western games doesn't mean they're bad games.PS4 - Because it was the next gen console i was the most interested in.
Warrior - Because i usually pick the Warrior class in MMORPGs when i played them.PS4Warrior posted...Kyoshiro12345 posted...
so my post about all the good western games died on the early 2000s and were only for PC, and some for PS2 wasnt worth refuting for TC, or you just couldnt because is true?
What is there for him to refute? You based it on two games that were RPGs. Just because you don't like current western games doesn't mean they're bad games.
TC stated that we bash EVERY western game, and i [presented a point that prior to 2006 moast western games ere good even here in Japan, and no one has come to defend todays trash games.Demon EYES Kyo
Kyoshiro Mibukirbyhoakage posted...nintendo fans think they and nintendo are holier then thou.
They are basically delusional.
Too bad this is contradicted by everyone else's posts here.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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They are basically delusional.
Ultima
Eye of the beholder
the spine of the world
Baldurs Gate
Neverwinter nights
pre 2006 elder scrolls
any one of those are tons better than what you see today, i havent got a chance to buy a western rpg on my ps4pro because there are none worth playing even if free.Demon EYES Kyo
Kyoshiro MibuBreath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.
One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.
What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.http://www.backloggery.com/tero - My backloggery
http://whatliesbeyondnovel.blogspot.ca/ - A psychological fantasy novel series, book 2 finally completeTerotrous posted...Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.
One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.
What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.
no what killed western rpgs was the forcing first person view, that didnt exist on the true western rpgs when they were good. i mean look at wow, you can see your character and thats why its been making money for generations.Demon EYES Kyo
Kyoshiro MibuI like how all the token defenders are pretending they didnt bash western devs for years because of cinematics, microtransactions, DLC and graphics over gameplay arguments. You guys still deny it even when gamefaqs archives your horses***. All you have to do is type "Western" in the topic search bar.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5E9xNR20EnKQTF6UFU6XQ_Candice_ posted...I like how all the token defenders are pretending they didnt bash western devs for years because of cinematics, microtransactions, DLC and graphics over gameplay arguments. You guys still deny it even when gamefaqs archives your horses***. All you have to do is type "Western" in the topic search bar.
Give it up, you lose.
whos Token?
i know he def not R A Salvatore.Demon EYES Kyo
Kyoshiro MibuKyoshiro12345 posted...Terotrous posted...
Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade may be inspired by Western games, but they're very different from the likes of Skyrim in a lot of ways.
One of the biggest differences between Japanese and Western games is that Japanese games tend to have much more dynamic and exciting battle systems, while Western games tend to offer more freedom and a larger scope. To see an example of this in action, think of something like Tales of Graces F and Fallout 4. In Tales, you have people stringing together massive chains of flashy moves and limit breaks and dodging all over the arena to avoid getting lasered to death. Bosses in Tales are exciting affairs that sometimes take more than 10 minutes to complete. In Fallout 4, you have an incredibly deep customization system and the game is far larger than any Tales game, but most battles just involve shooting 2 bullets at something, or, for the most dire of situations, opening VATS and using your critical. Sometimes you have to use a stimpak. There's nowhere near the same level of spectacle there.
What makes Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade stand out is that they offer the best of both worlds. They have the open-endedness and large scope of western games, but without sacrificing the excitement and spectacle of Japanese games. Not coincidentally, I rate both of them highly among the list of best games ever made.
no what killed western rpgs was the forcing first person view, that didnt exist on the true western rpgs when they were good. i mean look at wow, you can see your character and thats why its been making money for generations.
If you go back far enough, RPGs started with first person dungeon crawlers like Ultima. I don't really think view point is the problem. There are actually quite a lot of awful, generic MMOs from the east that tried to ride off the success of WoW.
In general though, I'd say the difference in eastern and western attitudes has been that eastern devs treat it like an art and western devs treat it like a business. JP devs envision a game, craft the game that they envisioned as close to perfection as possible, and hope that fans enjoy their vision. Western devs create a product, tailor that product to what they think fans want, and shove in as much content as possible even if it isn't perfect.FC: 2852-7398-0118- Boards
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