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Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games.
Especially platformers.
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Super Mario 64 Hate me all you want folks but I agree. The difference in the tightness of the controls between 64 and more recent Mario titles is night and day. I still think 64 is great, but I personally find it to not have aged so well.
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Melkac posted...
Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games. Super Mario Land 2 aged pretty well. Tetris, since it's Tetris.
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Pretty much the entire N64 library. 1st gen 3D was god awful.
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Anything on Nintendo except MERIO games and ICE Climbers and GUNSMOKE and IKARI WARRIORS On the original NES? Contra and Super C, all the Castlevania games but the second, all Mega Man games but the first, and Ducktales aged well. I'd argue the Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers games aged well, too... Can't speak for the second Ducktales games.
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PreciousPanda posted...
Super Mario 64
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Honestly, most of the original NES titles. The SNES is where they really hit IMO.
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Meggamanfan556 posted...Anything on Nintendo except MERIO games and ICE Climbers and GUNSMOKE and IKARI WARRIORS River City Ransom, Battletoads, TMNT 2 and 3, Kirby's Adventure, Ninja Gaiden, 1942, 1943 are all still excellent games and there's a lot I'm forgetting here.
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I loaded up Mario 64 again about a month ago, and compared to modern platform games it seems to have really bad controls and awful camera angles. It really shouldn't be surprising for the first 3d platform game of it's kind to be rough around the edges. The old 2D Marios have probably aged better.
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PreciousPanda posted...
Super Mario 64 I love this game to death, but it definitely has NOT aged well at all.
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Almost everything on the original Game Boy except for Link's Awakening, Donkey Kong '94, and the Gen 2 Pokemon games.
Ice Climber. However, the first three Marios, Contra, Castlevania 1 and 3, Ninja Gaiden, Ducktales, and all of the Mega Man games are still great. I couldn't get quite as into the first two Zeldas or Metroid (Those franchises didn't really get good until the SNES IMO), but those were at least innovative. I'd be willing to give them another chance. I hate to say it, but... F-Zero. The game would have been much better had there been a 2-player mode and the ability to play any track in Time Trial mode. I'm actually rather fond of the original Mario Kart, to be honest. Final Fantasy II/IV, but only the original English SNES release. The GBA/PSP remakes are fine IMO. Goldeneye. Mario 64 and the N64 Zeldas are still great games IMO. 64 might actually be my favorite 3D Mario, even though the camera could have been better. (Unpopular opinion warning: Mario Kart 64 didn't age too well IMO. I'd rather go back to the first game over MK64. Still a fun game to play at parties though.) Donkey Kong Country, but only slightly. It's still a decent game, but it had a bad habit of placing a lot of the secrets in bottomless pits, leading to trial and error gameplay in regards to trying to find the bonus rooms. DKC2 was a huge improvement. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like Mario Sunshine, but that game had some serious issues. 64 and the Galaxies are better IMO. Sunshine had some cool ideas that weren't fully utilized very well, and it doesn't feel like a finished game. It was rushed out of the gate too quickly IMO.
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EarthBound Beginnings unfortunately
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Most N64 games. I don't think I could even play Castlevania 64 anymore.
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Most N64 games, especially first-person ones like Goldeneye.
Early 3D games REALLY haven't aged well.
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Melkac posted...Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games. Add Kirby to the list and Metroid 2...
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Only realism ages
Thus only something akin to an Eternal Darkness as the controls and their artstyles have all held up rather well. An while a case can be made for the NES era that all gets chocked up to Retro the same is true for Gameboy games. What's old but still playable or enjoyed is what I view Retro to be
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Besides Smash bros, anything on N64. Most of the early 3D games have not aged well.
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As far as game-dropping whiplash goes, Goldeneye is the only one I can think of, only for my having missed the control-pad camera shooter era. Didn't play Ocarina of Time until 2007 and Super Nintendo Star Fox until after that they're both just fine. Even Sin & Punishment, though certainly rough, was smoother than I was lead to think.
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VeiledGenesis posted...Pretty much the entire N64 library. 1st gen 3D was god awful.
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There is no such thing as "aging poorly".
They were bad games when they released too. Early Game Boy games save Link's Awakening were always shallow compared to the NES and SNES games they released alongside. And fuck off, N64's first party library was solid. There's more to games than lolgraphics.
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PreciousPanda posted...
Super Mario 64
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all the n64/gamecube and wii era games
snes games with 3dfx liek star fox, the race game and other games trying to use 3d
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Melkac posted...Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games. No, not at all. That game (well the dx version) is the sole reason I decided to make this topic. I don't really like mario platformers, but at least I can appreciate the level design and great controls. Land 2 has none of those things. shroom_ninja_X posted... Donkey Kong '94 Oh yeah, that's another great one.
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For non Nintendo, Atari 2600, Amstrad and Commodore 64 games rarely hold up as well as very old PC games of the same era.
For Nintendo, most NES and SNES games are bad if you look at the library as a whole. People just remember the good ones because that's what we purchased though. I think most of the games they put on the NES and SNES classic are still solid though. Like, I still genuinely enjoy the Original Punch Out game. I also agree that early 3D era is rough as heck. Mario 64 is just about playable I think but even things like Goldeneye and Mariokart 64 are really janky with poor framerates. For me though, I find 16 bit holds up the best out of the old stuff. I think games like Mario World and Donkey Kong Country really are playable even by today's standards.
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There is no such thing as "aging poorly". It's not even the graphics that Haven't aged it's the god awful camera controls. And to a lesser extent the controls in general
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Everything on NES.
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There are literally none. Games don't age, they play exactly as they did when they first came out
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Twilight Princess on the gamecube and wii. Gosh it looks hideous.
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Metroid on NES.
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Mario 64 camera has not aged well.
It makes the game almost unplayable now. Dk 64 wasn't that hot at release and the game is like a pile of junk nowadays aswell. Have played OoT, mm, starfox 64, and Conker recently with no issues. Will try banjo kazooie next. |
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both N64 zelda games Tf is wrong with you? Z targeting makes all the difference between an unplayable mess like Mario 64 and something blocky but still functional. |
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0ofreako0 posted...both N64 zelda games In terms of graphics and controls, OoT and MM have definitely aged poorly. The 3DS remakes prove that. I still think MM is an excellent game, but it’s undeniably aged.
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while its still a fun game for me playing the original SMB feels oddly stiff and unwieldy after playing SMB3, Mario world etc,
from a technical standpoint playing the n64 zeldas again after the 3ds versions feels a lot less smooth in terms of framerate.
in terms of visuals the n64 games dont bother me too much though a lot of older 3d games can look bad when played on a HDTV or monitor, thats why im hoping for n64 games if a switch VC happens since they would look better on a lower resolution screen (thats why i prefer playing psone games via the vita when possible)Pear into Peaches!Super Mario Bros, really. Pretty much every 2D Mario game since SMB is such an improvement in level design and controls. It deserves credit for starting an entire genre, but it's not something I would ever replay now when I can play SMB3, World, SMB2USA, even the New SMB games and SML2.
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SM64 and OOT are atrocious by even the lowest modern standards.SM64 and OOT have aged like fine wine.
Anything by post-NES Rare has aged poorly. Their N64 shooters have aged atrociously. But then again, they never really were good to begin with. Battletoads shows its age simply because of how hard and unforgiving it is, but it's still a damn good game."Theyre not only moron but also Galapagosian Lolita Complexed Chicken." -Tomonobu Itagakiafr1234 posted...0ofreako0 posted...
both N64 zelda games
Tf is wrong with you?
Z targeting makes all the difference between an unplayable mess like Mario 64 and something blocky but still functional.
It is not a proper substitute for camera control.ROB45 posted...afr1234 posted...
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Z targeting makes all the difference between an unplayable mess like Mario 64 and something blocky but still functional.
It is not a proper substitute for camera control.
Makes the game very playable regardless, much more playable than shit like Mario 64afr1234 posted...ROB45 posted...
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It is not a proper substitute for camera control.
Makes the game very playable regardless, much more playable than shit like Mario 64
Than a game with camera control? I think not.PreciousPanda posted...Super Mario 64
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Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games.
Especially platformers.
Super Mario Land 2 aged pretty well. Tetris, since it's Tetris.
Donkey Kong ‘94 also ages well. So did Final Fantasy Adventure and the Kirby Games. Plenty of GameBoy Games aged wellSwitch Matchmaking Discord -https://Discord.gg/GXDckXnThe original Legend of Zelda on NES and Mario 64.
If I'm being completely honest, I never even liked the original Zelda even back when it was new. Zelda didn't become a great series until A Link to the Past.
Mario 64 just straight up doesn't hold up well today. It was freaking mind blowing though when it launched.Currently playing: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (Switch)Melkac posted...Basically everything on the original Game Boy, except for the Zelda games.
Especially platformers.
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snes games with 3dfx liek star fox, the race game and other games trying to use 3d
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3DS Fc: Mr. Kunio - 3437-4087-1475I really don't understand what's so unplayable about Mario 64. It controls like a dream. Only thing even slightly iffy is the camera.Posted with GameRaven 3.3Timohtep posted...I really don't understand what's so unplayable about Mario 64. It controls like a dream
That it does. The N64 analog stick is iffy but play it on Wii VC (not Wii U because it has a load of additional input lag for no reason), and you'll see how good the controls are."Theyre not only moron but also Galapagosian Lolita Complexed Chicken." -Tomonobu Itagaki(edited 3 days ago)quotedonkeypunch1116 posted...PreciousPanda posted...
Super Mario 64
Hate me all you want folks but I agree. The difference in the tightness of the controls between 64 and more recent Mario titles is night and day.
I still think 64 is great, but I personally find it to not have aged so well.
Your opinion sucks. The casuals from REACT played this the other day and I'm pretty sure their opinion has more credit since if they have no problems with it, there are no problems with it. The controls are tight, they just have a learning curve. That doesn't mean they aged badly, it still handles momentum better than any other 3D Mario game.Read the mania: http://www.fanfiction.net/~nonexistinghero
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You are REALLY going out of your way yo bash this game, huh?
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May not be a "real" HM, but it does look fun.SkyCrackers posted...SM64 and OOT have aged like fine wine.
Anything by post-NES Rare has aged poorly. Their N64 shooters have aged atrociously. But then again, they never really were good to begin with. Battletoads shows its age simply because of how hard and unforgiving it is, but it's still a damn good game.
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SM64, OOT and especially MK64 aged horribly compared to games like Banjo Kazooie and Diddy Kong Racing. And DKC wipes the floor with anything old hack Miyamoto has ever created.VeiledGenesis posted...Pretty much the entire N64 library. 1st gen 3D was god awful.
Favorite NFL Teams: Cowboys/Rams.I think Ocarina of Time has aged worse than Link to the Past AND Majora's Mask. This puts it in a weird position, considering it's viewed to be the gold standard for Zelda games.
Slowly, but surely, I think Link to the Past (or maybe even BotW) will supersede Ocarina of Time as the best Zelda game in the eyes of the fan base. If it wasn't for Master Quest and eventually the 3DS port, people wouldn't look back on Ocarina as fondly as they do.
You'd be surprised how many of the "older" Zelda fans are Ocarina bandwagoners. They praise it for being this big trailblazer of 3D gaming (as if no other developer would have invented Z-targeting in a 3D environment), yet almost everything notable about Ocarina of Time was taken straight out of Link to the Past.Literally if it wasn't Nintendo I would return the god damn thing and never f***ing buy another Nintendo product again.- hillietOcarina of Time definitely hasn't aged well, but it's still enjoyable enough to play now. The main issues include Hyrule Field being totally empty, the puzzles and combat being pretty basic by modern standards, and the boss battles being pretty formulaic and uninteresting for the most part. Really the things it did really well and/or did first have been done better by other games, and that's its main issue for people playing it just now. It's not unfun or a bad game now by any means though, just a lot less remarkable compared to modern games, which is still pretty impressive considering how many games of that era are absolute trash by modern standards.kranix1 posted...Slowly, but surely, I think Link to the Past (or maybe even BotW) will supersede Ocarina of Time as the best Zelda game in the eyes of the fan base.
Keep dreaming.Melkac posted...kranix1 posted...
Slowly, but surely, I think Link to the Past (or maybe even BotW) will supersede Ocarina of Time as the best Zelda game in the eyes of the fan base.
Keep dreaming.
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Slowly, but surely, I think Link to the Past (or maybe even BotW) will supersede Ocarina of Time as the best Zelda game in the eyes of the fan base.
Keep dreaming.
ALTTP definitely is the best Zelda game. I have been saying it since I first played it and its not nostalgia talking as I didn't play it until a few years ago for the first time and that was well after I played OOT/WW/TP etc.PSN: DarkVelstadtStar Fox
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Super Mario 64 - First big 3d platformer, terrible controls ( both camera and controlling Mario )
Super Mario Kart - First Mario Kart game ( controls a bit awkward, lack of functions that came in later games )
But that's kind of to be expected from idea's when they're first starting out. You set an idea in motion, see if it plays out well and then work to improve upon it in later installments.
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I actually like aspects of Goldeneye still, even better then what Perfect Dark provided... Namely though the weapon selection in Multiplayer and the single player campaign.
Timohtep posted...I really don't understand what's so unplayable about Mario 64. It controls like a dream. Only thing even slightly iffy is the camera.
It controls like ass. I felt it back when the game released and when I play it now on my n64 I still feel it controls like ass. It's not as bad as the DS port, but it still very much noticeable and it's frustrating when the controls screwing up ends up getting you killed.(edited 2 days ago)quoteThe original Metroid. I loved that game as a kid, but now I have almost no reason to ever go back to it. Heck, Kid Icarus is still infinitely replayable despite its weirdness.
shroom_ninja_X posted...I hate to say it, but... F-Zero. The game would have been much better had there been a 2-player mode and the ability to play any track in Time Trial mode. I'm actually rather fond of the original Mario Kart, to be honest.
Aw, the original F-Zero is still amazing. It looks awesome, the controls are tight, and the difficult is just right so that there is always a setting that feels just on the edge of your ability. You get cheated occasionally, but it rarely feels like you could not have reacted to it, and you have enough lives to deal with the few times you do just get robbed. Any time I go back to that game I have a great time.Playing video games for story is like eating at Golden Corral for the food quality. - EndgameThis hurts me to say, since I was such a massive fan of it when it came out:
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I still adore the game, but after recently trying to play it again, it hasn't aged very well. The music, the combat, it takes a bit too long to get going... The game is still charming, but it's not what it was.SunDevil77 posted...
Taking teeth and biting Johnson.TheCuddlyKnife posted...fuck this topic hurts my gamer soul.
It truly does... as if gamers nowadays are spoon-fed whiners.
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This is like the only thing in this thread I agree with.
Everyone who thinks Gameboy games, or N64 games aren't still super fun to play are just nuts. I guess the absence of color and textures (for the 3d games) are a big turn off for folks.
But honestly...I look at the technical achievement (for the hardware) and games like Resident Evil 2 running on N64, Metal Gear on the Gameboy Color, Tony Hawk or Max Payne on the GBA are simply mind blowing...in much the same way that playing Doom 2016 on the Nintendo Switch is mind blowing. Especially if you look at the last handheld DOOM on GBA.
And that aside...simplicity is a bug driving force for why these games are still amazing today. By about the middle of the NES' lifespan, pixel Art really started becoming a thing. By the time SNES hit the scene...it was a full blown Art form. And by playing these older games you can watch it evolve.
Mark my words...when Travis Strikes Again hits in 2018, one of its bigger mandates will be a love letter to indie games, but also the history of hardware (and it's limitations) and we will see Travis rendered in a few different and amazing styles inspired by both Pixel Art, as well as old school blocky PS1 style depictions.
The only games that haven't aged well...are games with no love put into them...crap and lazy shovelware ports. But I still enjoy asteroids, and pong...so what the fuck do I know right?GeneralFox posted...
It controls like ass. I felt it back when the game released and when I play it now on my n64 I still feel it controls like ass. It's not as bad as the DS port, but it still very much noticeable and it's frustrating when the controls screwing up ends up getting you killed.
I truthfully don't understand how you could think 64 controls badly. It's smooth as hell.Posted with GameRaven 3.3I spent a lot of time on Ninja Gaiden. Wish I had it back.Auto correct makes me look like a d***** fool. I'm not really this stupid.I listed it already, but Star Fox bears repeating. Good grief, that game is downright painful to play now after trying it again on my SNES Classic after so many years.I am Ace-of-Clubs, and I approve this message.
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Ice Climbers is pretty terrible.MasterChiefsSon posted...Breath of the Wild
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First one that comes to mind after seeing N64 is Goldeneye. It's striking having played it on release for years after, then revisiting a decade later.. unplayable haha.
Sorry Master System fans but most of the titles I tried on that system are very ugly, rough to play, and not particularly fun. Phantasy Star (I) holds up great though.
On NES, Ninja Gaiden. Not for it's controls and aesthetic which are excellent, it's the level design against the player.
On MegaDrive, I really wanted to like Phantasy Star II, but the clunky interface and dungeon structure put me off the game. I love Phantasy Star IV so was a bit disappointed. Shining in the Darkness was not good compared to other dungeon rpgs I've played.
PSX: Most of the Final Fantasies too slow in terms of the battling, and length of cutscenes. I prefer games with more focus on grinding and combat. In this way, Dragon Warrior II/III on NES have aged really well for my preferences, and Wizardry I-V (SNES/PSX).
Breath of Fire 3/4 are very simplistic in terms of gameplay and combat, not good rpgs for me. Poor UI in BoF4.(edited 2 days ago)quoteflkid posted...Melkac posted...
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ALTTP definitely is the best Zelda game. I have been saying it since I first played it and its not nostalgia talking as I didn't play it until a few years ago for the first time and that was well after I played OOT/WW/TP etc.
People have a tendency to ignore ALttP's flaws when talking about best Zelda games so you're probably doing the exact same thing.I still enjoy Goldeneye tbh, the only thing that hasn't aged well with it is the blurry graphics/resolution. Even the controls are fine. Most people who bash the controls don't even realize there was a pseudo dual analog style config (granted you moved with the c buttons and aimed with the stick).
The gameplay was great, and lots of replay value with the multiple objectives depending on the difficulty you select and all the unlockables. Still one of the best movie based games ever made.None of the early 3D games, whether they are Nintendo games or not, have aged well in terms of aesthetics.
Wind Waker hasn't aged very well, in my opinion. Ignoring the ugly character models it features a boring world with flat colours, the process of filling in the map finding those stupid fishmen is far more tedious than Breath of the Wild, and on top of that you're lucky if each sector even contains a miniscule piece of rock which you, more than likely, cannot even access. To top it off, the final act was padded with fighting each of the dungeon bosses again (a practice for which the Breath of the Wild received criticism for, being dubbed "lazy") before a disappointing battle with Ganondorf.
Skyward Sword has also not aged well, with the mediocre motion controls and disjointed world. It also suffers from the fighting bosses multiple times syndrome.GameFAQs, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and vulgarity. We must be cautious.- Boards
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ARMS has aged pretty bad.Now Playing: Resident Evil 5, Metroid the Other M, Splatoon 2, Pokemon Picross and New LeafAce-of-Clubs posted...I listed it already, but Star Fox bears repeating. Good grief, that game is downright painful to play now after trying it again on my SNES Classic after so many years.
Oooof, I'll back you up on that one. By far and away my biggest "Whoa, I don't remember it looking THAT bad" moment with the SNES classic."Ok, you're right, users 'antagonize' each other here daily; but you make them cry the hardest, so you get the moderation." -- ACTUAL moderator quotecpthurme posted...EDIT: Oops listed Sega and Sony titles ah well.
First one that comes to mind after seeing N64 is Goldeneye. It's striking having played it on release for years after, then revisiting a decade later.. unplayable haha.
Sorry Master System fans but most of the titles I tried on that system are very ugly, rough to play, and not particularly fun. Phantasy Star (I) holds up great though.
On NES, Ninja Gaiden. Not for it's controls and aesthetic which are excellent, it's the level design against the player.
On MegaDrive, I really wanted to like Phantasy Star II, but the clunky interface and dungeon structure put me off the game. I love Phantasy Star IV so was a bit disappointed. Shining in the Darkness was not good compared to other dungeon rpgs I've played.
PSX: Most of the Final Fantasies too slow in terms of the battling, and length of cutscenes. I prefer games with more focus on grinding and combat. In this way, Dragon Warrior II/III on NES have aged really well for my preferences, and Wizardry I-V (SNES/PSX).
Breath of Fire 3/4 are very simplistic in terms of gameplay and combat, not good rpgs for me. Poor UI in BoF4.
Agreed. I respect Phantasy Star II for it's ambition, but it was too much of a grindfest IMO. Now Phantasy Star IV? That's a great game and one of the best RPG's of the 16 bit era. Dragon Quest III is also a classic. (I don't see myself playing through II again anytime soon, tbh.) 4, 6, 7, and 9 are the best Final Fantasy games IMO, and FF5 is up there.
Goldeneye sadly doesn't hold up too well today...Word to your mother.The NES Fire Emblem games.There's a mystery to be uncovered here, that's for sure. And I get the feeling the truth is beyond my wildest imagination.Personally I think any game before 2011. The graphics are old, even in Super Mario Galaxy.Mario RPG (graphically). Poor game just had to come out when the trashy pre-rendered graphics fad was in full swing. The game could have benefited greatly from some traditional pixel art.GRUMBLE, GRUMBLE...Just about all of them
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Console of the Year 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017PreciousPanda posted...Super Mario 64
i never played it when i was younger.
First time i played it was like 4 years ago.....and it just wasn't good. I played on Wii VC with GC controller
It was a chore to playINTERWEBUSER posted...Just about all of them
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Dat troll post"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"shroom_ninja_X posted...Donkey Kong Country, but only slightly. It's still a decent game, but it had a bad habit of placing a lot of the secrets in bottomless pits, leading to trial and error gameplay in regards to trying to find the bonus rooms. DKC2 was a huge improvement.
Dkc1 is the best donkey Kong game for me
The sequels are more fleshed out but don't hold that special place for mehttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg
3DS: 1005-8921-6109Mario Sunshine - it's shockingly unpolished for a mainline Mario game, and some of its missions are just unacceptable today.Yeah... Sorry.Anclation posted...Mario Sunshine - it's shockingly unpolished for a mainline Mario game, and some of its missions are just unacceptable today.
Sunshine didn't age. It was already mediocre.VeiledGenesis posted...Pretty much the entire N64 library. 1st gen 3D was god awful.
Most of the 3D N64 games aged a hell of a lot better than the 3D PS1 games. I don’t know if you have tried to play any of the old Tomb Raider games lately, but holy shit those games are almost unplayable for me these days because they are so damn clunky and just flat out ugly. At least those old N64 games are still playable and enjoyable.I like to dissect girls. Did you know I'm utterly insane?Super Mario RPG tbh. I still need to finish it but the battle system hasn't really hooked me.
Great characters, story, and music, but I want a remake or sequel where they make the gameplay more like the M&L games. And I don't mean removing 3-party battles or any of the abilities, just make the action commands for the existing moves more M&L (or early Paper Mario) esque.
Anclation posted...Mario Sunshine - it's shockingly unpolished for a mainline Mario game, and some of its missions are just unacceptable today.
This too, could really use a remake that makes certain missions playable.At long long last, a worthy successor to the first 3 Paper Mario games has been released. It's called Super Mario Odyssey.(edited 9 hours ago)quoteAlmost the entire NES library. The games on there may not be terrible, but if you missed out on the NES, unless you have a bunch of free time, I would recommend skipping most stuff on it. The only two games that I would say are absolute must plays on there are Zelda 1 and SMB 3. While you are there, I would say play a game from the Ninja Gaiden series along with Zelda II, for the reasons of difficulty and decent quality, Zelda II to a lesser extent, but it's still a Zelda game, and the series is still a major player today.
Unless you count time of release, IMO almost nothing holds up on the N64. The games on there have either been surpassed with a similar game, or the game, series, or genre has become basically useless. I would say the only thing on the system that is really worth doing, is flying around the outer area of the castle in Mario 64 if somebody will let you play on their save that has progressed that far. Otherwise at best you should just obtain some of the most important and/or unique facts about the system, such as how MM played and the way the moon looked, and just call it a day. If you absolutely must play a full game on there, I would actually probably recommend Star Wars Shadows of the Empire. I think the game is still some what unique but at the same time encapsulates much of what the N64 was about.
IMO Nintendo's handhelds were mostly crap from the start, until the New 3DS. The GameCube has a few decent highlights, but faces similar problems.SSBB Friend Code: 3823-8247-5632 N3DS Friend Code: 0189-8871-1995(edited 8 hours ago)quoteMozzezz posted...Almost the entire NES library. The games on there may not be terrible, but if you missed out on the NES, unless you have a bunch of free time, I would recommend skipping most stuff on it. The only two games that I would say are absolute must plays on there are Zelda 1 and SMB 3. While you are there, I would say play a game from the Ninja Gaiden series along with Zelda II, for the reasons of difficulty and decent quality, Zelda II to a lesser extent, but it's still a Zelda game, and the series is still a major player today.
Unless you count time of release, IMO almost nothing holds up on the N64. The games on there have either been surpassed with a similar game, or the game, series, or genre has become basically useless. I would say the only thing on the system that is really worth doing, is flying around the outer area of the castle in Mario 64 if somebody will let you play on their save that has progressed that far. Otherwise at best you should just obtain some of the most important and/or unique facts about the system, such as how MM played and the way the moon looked, and just call it a day. If you absolutely must play a full game on there, I would actually probably recommend Star Wars Shadows of the Empire. I think the game is still some what unique but at the same time encapsulates much of what the N64 was about.
IMO Nintendo's handhelds were mostly crap from the start, until the New 3DS. The GameCube has a few decent highlights, but faces similar problems.
Wowcpthurme posted...Shining in the Darkness was not good compared to other dungeon rpgs I've played
How DARE you, How VERY DARE.. The shining games are untouchable!!!
Joking I can see what you mean its quite simplistic compared to a lot of it peers, I just have massive nostalgia glasses for it as it was the first RPG I actually finished and set me up for a long a glorious jrpg filled life and shining force games are my number one games of all timeevery game they put out on the N64.
Metroid 2. It's the whole concept. I didn't like Samus Returns either.
Super Mario RPG
SMO and BotW just came out and I don't see those games aging very well either.[MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon| Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 6GB| i7 6700K @4.4Ghz| 16GB DDR4 2400 Trident Z RGB| ASUS VG248]
Switch [4963-7986-1772](edited 1 hour ago)quoteemagdnE posted...There is no such thing as "aging poorly".
They were bad games when they released too. Early Game Boy games save Link's Awakening were always shallow compared to the NES and SNES games they released alongside.
And fuck off, N64's first party library was solid. There's more to games than lolgraphics.
No surprise you're a complete fucking joke. Can't even argue honestly. What the fuck do you think we're talking about? We're talking visuals, you fucking tool. It is a fact that 1st gen 3D is fucking terrible and didn't age for shit. But you're one of the worst, most obvious trolls on the board, so whatever.Gather all the young ones and listen as we tell of the days of old, when the earth was whole, before the hammer fell. - "Hammer of Heaven", The SwordXx_King_Beef_xX posted...VeiledGenesis posted...
Pretty much the entire N64 library. 1st gen 3D was god awful.
Most of the 3D N64 games aged a hell of a lot better than the 3D PS1 games. I don’t know if you have tried to play any of the old Tomb Raider games lately, but holy shit those games are almost unplayable for me these days because they are so damn clunky and just flat out ugly. At least those old N64 games are still playable and enjoyable.
Mario 64 is just as ugly and unplayable now. Due to controls and camera alone.
I just see a bunch of blurry legos in those old games nowadays.
MGS1 needs a fucking remake :((edited 1 hour ago)quote- Boards
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