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Unpopular opinion: Ocarina of Time is overrated

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teepan95 20 hours ago#1
I own both OoT and Majora's Mask on 2DS, and have tried to get into both.

MM: not a problem

OoT: very much the opposite

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BignutzisBack 20 hours ago#2
Letron_James 20 hours ago#3
Its not a controversial opinion its just a bad one.
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YoungMakaiyum 20 hours ago#4
MM sux
kingdrake2 20 hours ago#5
YoungMakaiyum posted...
MM sux


i can stand by this.
long as it isn't OOT.
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Muffinz0rz 20 hours ago#6
Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010)
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SpinKirby 20 hours ago#8
What isn't overrated that's popular?
SSJCAT 20 hours ago#9
If you didn’t play it when it first came out I’m sure it’d be hard to see the impact and appeal that it had but because it had such an effect on me (was really first game I beat on my own as a kid) I have huge nostalgia for t and like to play thru every few years or so.
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LanHikari10 20 hours ago#10
I think maybe you could've said this ten years ago and it might've been right, but I feel like nowadays plenty of people enjoy talking about Ocarina of Time's flaws.
teepan95 20 hours ago#11
YoungMakaiyum posted...
MM sux

no u
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hyperpsycho  ignoresme20 hours ago#12
"Ocarina of Time is overrated" is one of the most popular unpopular opinions.
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teepan95 20 hours ago#13
It's a shame it's such a letdown. I really wanted to experience and enjoy such a big moment in gaming history

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scar the 1 20 hours ago#14
Honestly I think OoT is amazing for its time, but I'm not sure it aged super well. It's difficult to say, since playing it today is such a hugely nostalgic experience for me.
MM I feel is superior in atmosphere, characters, quirkiness, etc. Which, to be honest, is where 3D Zeldas generally excel anyway.
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YellowSUV 20 hours ago#15
Ocarina Time is insanely innovative. Check out this article
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/the-legend-of-zelda/21226/the-many-innovations-of-the-legend-of-zelda .

The first 3 innovations listed are all from Ocarina of Time. Lock on targeting, the camera system, and context sensitive controls. Just having one would be amazing, having 3 is mind boggling.
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SpinKirby 20 hours ago#16
YellowSUV posted...
Ocarina Time is insanely innovative. Check out this article
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/the-legend-of-zelda/21226/the-many-innovations-of-the-legend-of-zelda .

The first 3 innovations listed are all from Ocarina of Time. Lock on targeting, the camera system, and context sensitive controls. Just having one would be amazing, having 3 is mind boggling.

lol
Metua 20 hours ago#17
My first time playing it was on the 3DS and I enjoyed it. Granted, it was my first 3D Zelda.
YellowSUV 20 hours ago#18
One of the biggest problems I think so many people have when playing OoT is that its innovations are so integrated and improved in modern gaming that you can't really notice them. 

Its similar to how the 1915 film Birth of a Nation created so many innovations (talking about filming and story techniques, not the horrible racism) but a modern viewer won't notice them since they've been ingrained and improved in film all their life.
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EnragedSlith 20 hours ago#21
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.
LanHikari10 20 hours ago#22
I'm still a little salty over egoraptor's Sequelitis about it. Literally complaining about that pillar before the boss room in the Fire Temple and how jumping over it isn't a challenge. That's not the point of the puzzle.
Omnislasher 20 hours ago#23
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian.


/topic
YellowSUV 19 hours ago#24
LanHikari10 posted...
I'm still a little salty over egoraptor's Sequelitis about it. Literally complaining about that pillar before the boss room in the Fire Temple and how jumping over it isn't a challenge. That's not the point of the puzzle.


Egoraptor either complains about OoT on purpose to get views or his spatial awareness in 3D games is terrible and he can't play 3D games well.
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nativengine 19 hours ago#25
Omnislasher posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian.


/topic
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LanHikari10 posted...
I'm still a little salty over egoraptor's Sequelitis about it. Literally complaining about that pillar before the boss room in the Fire Temple and how jumping over it isn't a challenge. That's not the point of the puzzle.


his problem is that he plays it like it's a link to the past and refuses to change

he just mashes attack and then when enemies block it he complains about the "waiting"
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Abyssea 19 hours ago#27
do you kiss your mother with that filthy mouth?
Doe 19 hours ago#28
I'm 17 and played both way way after the original release dates

Ocarina of Time holds up to this day as one of the best games of all time

Majora's Mask not so much
pegusus123456 19 hours ago#29
YellowSUV posted...
LanHikari10 posted...
I'm still a little salty over egoraptor's Sequelitis about it. Literally complaining about that pillar before the boss room in the Fire Temple and how jumping over it isn't a challenge. That's not the point of the puzzle.


Egoraptor either complains about OoT on purpose to get views or his spatial awareness in 3D games is terrible and he can't play 3D games well.

The problem Egoraptor has (at least in GameGrumps) is that he absolutely refuses to read any information or alter his strategy in any way. He complains about the waiting in OoT because enemies will guard against your attacks, but he doesn't use the abilities that let him break that guard. Most underwater combat in MM took him ages (Gyorg apparently took 90+ minutes) because he never bothered to read the zora tutorial and never uses his shield, so he was killed by enemies that are effortlessly killed with the electric zora shield.
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FortuneCookie 19 hours ago#30
I just watched this movie from the 1960s. I gotta say, the special effects are pretty dated.

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Howl 19 hours ago#31
It's the best game of all time tbh. Pretty hard to overstate how much of a masterpiece it is.
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teepan95 11 hours ago#32
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.

Man, you're salty.

I've never played Vice City, but HL2 was a 10/10 experience when I played it two or so years ago. It definitely was a "mind-boggling" experience. So why shouldn't I hold OoT to the same standard?
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Lathissamus 11 hours ago#33
teepan95 posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.

Man, you're salty.

I've never played Vice City, but HL2 was a 10/10 experience when I played it two or so years ago. It definitely was a "mind-boggling" experience. So why shouldn't I hold OoT to the same standard?


Not only is he salty, but you can't have an "ignorant, wrong" opinion when your opinion is based on actual experience.
0AbsoluteZero0 11 hours ago#34
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian.

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Vertania 11 hours ago#35
Howl posted...
It's the best game of all time tbh. Pretty hard to overstate how much of a masterpiece it is.
Jerry_Hellyeah 10 hours ago#36
Im not going to scroll back up to single out the guy that said Half Life 2 is dated but.......

You know who you are, and you know you are WRONG.

Seriously though, I started playing through again two days ago and just finished up today. Its soooooooo goooooood. Even the levels I hated as a kid are just fantastic. Running away from a helicopter in a hovercraft for half a level only to get a machine gun installed and send that helicopter running scared and damaged til the big open boss fight is just great design.

Every level just works and has this flow to it I dont think Ive seen in another game since. You go from a subjugated city to train tracks to hovercrafting through sewers to fighting hordes of zombies in a forgotten Ravenholm to sniper ridden streets to gokarting down a coastal highway to THE FLOOR IS LAVA THAT GETS UP AND EATS YOU to a beach invasion where you COMMAND SAID MAN EATING LAVA to a prison where you have to breach the walls to let in your maneater bugs to that same subjugated city in the middle of an uprising you unintentionally signaled to fighting 5 story tall walking insect tanks with a squad of resistance members who see you as a messiah to fighting through a massive tower fortress to losing your gravity gun to getting your gravity gun back WITH COMPOUND INTEREST to one of the coolest final level experiences in gaming.

Even graphically the Orange Box version is so solid, and the facial expression really makes it feel like theres a living being there.

I really thought Id have to work up to playing it here and there but I couldnt have been more wrong. I beat the game a few dozen times as a kid and I appreciate it sooooooo much more now.
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EverDownward 10 hours ago#37
OoT is a good game, but it's definitely overrated
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EverDownward 10 hours ago#38
BignutzisBack posted...
Final Fantasy 10 is the real overrated game

Now, you and I are about to have to step outside and roll our cuffs back because I don't take kindly to such crass words around here.
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ledbowman 10 hours ago#39
*remembers Ganondorf playing the organ and the light changing as you walk up the stairs to where Zelda is being held*

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Banjo2553 10 hours ago#40
It should be acknowledged for pioneering the 3D action adventure genre, but I do think many games have surpassed it now.
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian.

@UnfairRepresent

I have no real opinion on oot. I played it once, got bored and never touched it again so I can't comment
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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scar the 1 7 hours ago#42
UnfairRepresent posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
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@UnfairRepresent

I have no real opinion on oot. I played it once, got bored and never touched it again so I can't comment

That's oddly the most contrarian opinion on OoT there is. Well done.
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catboy0_0 7 hours ago#43
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.

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EverDownward 7 hours ago#44
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.

System Shock 2 is still, now, every bit as good and laser focused as it was back in 1999.
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EverDownward posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
It’s a contrarian opinion, an ignorant opinion, a wrong opinion, but not an unpopular one. Why? Because people hate on popular things just to be contrarian. Is playing it for the first time NOW going to be some mind boggling experience? Of course not. That’s true for so many popular games. Vice City, for instance, feels clunky and like a ghost town. Half Life 2 feels outdated. But they pushed the envelope and raised the standard for video games.

System Shock 2 is still, now, every bit as good and laser focused as it was back in 1999.

I love system shock 2 but it is clunky as all hell
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pegusus123456 7 hours ago#46
I have to actually agree with Unfair. SS2 is arguably my favorite game, but it's definitely got that 90s clunkiness.
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Turbam 7 hours ago#48
It's incredibly revolutionary and it's probably the most important game of all time for me.
But yes, there are a lot of flaws with the game and literally all 3D Zeldas are better
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Reis 7 hours ago#49
Turbam posted...
and literally all 3D Zeldas are better

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pegusus123456 7 hours ago#50
Turbam posted...
It's incredibly revolutionary and it's probably the most important game of all time for me.
But yes, there are a lot of flaws with the game and literally all 3D Zeldas are better

Eh, I'd say TP is a little worse.
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