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I was on the fence about purchasing a Switch which I finally did, only to return it the next day. I've owned every Nintendo console and most of their portable systems but the Wii U will most likely be my last and favorite. It practically plays every good Nintendo game since the NES. It's almost impossible for me to get rid of now anyway since I have over 100 digital games on it.
The Switch has so many great games already and a ton more on the way but in my opinion, the console sucks. I feel it should basically have been the same as the Wii U in every way except can be played anywhere. The Wiimotes are a much better controller then the Joycons which were so uncomfortable to use. My biggest problem with the Switch is not being able to use the tablet as my controller for TV play. That and not being able to transfer all of my games over. I'm so angry that I'll never be able to play Super Mario Odyssey. Unless Nintendo comes out with a different version of the Switch.
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I see.
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The only issue I'm seeing here is that you're unable to comprehend what a Pro Controller is.
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Use the joycon grip or get a pro controller.
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I agree that it really needs a virtual console along with backwards compatibility.
VC seems to be a no-brainier, but from what I've seen with the details on the online subscription they're pushing, I have a feeling it will be included as that instead. BC is a bit trickier to do given they're moving from discs to physical cards, but still, some kind of transfer from your Wii U to the Switch would've been awesome, at the very least for the digital games you bought. Unfortunately it seems like they're just porting over the same games with a bit more added to them (MK8 with all dlc, Pokken with extra characters), and charging us full price for them. I'm not really down for that; only reason I got MK8 was because I didn't own it, but I doubt that I'll do the same with Pokken, and I suspect many non-competitive players feel the same way.
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I loved being able to use the Wii U game pad as my controller plus being able to use it as a TV remote. Plus being able to switch to using just the Game pad on the fly. A pro controller would not solve this problem.
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A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote and off TV co-op than with joycons or a Pro controller and split screen.
@PatrickSheehan, I understand. Wii U had me spoiled as well and that is probably why I will not end up getting rid of it. Playing with many control options and using off TV co-op multiplayer is something Switch cannot do and games like Hyrule Warriors (or my favorite, Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper) will suffer in my eyes as a downgrade and step backward from where Wii U was going. Wii U offered so much more versatility than Switch does at this point so i do understand where you are coming from. However, if you look at Switch as a hand held, it becomes clear what the intention of the console is. The console is not about being a true Wii U successor; rather, it is more about merging the handheld into the home console experience like back when Playstation and Nintendo 64 were merging home consoles with arcade experiences. If you look at it as more of a 3DS replacement that can compliment your Wii U, then you may end up not disliking the console as much as you do right now.
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slightlord posted...
A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote than with joycons or a Pro controller. The only FPS games I played that were more fun with the Wiimote were Metroid Prime 1 and 2 on the Trilogy. That's because they had a lock system that avoided you rotating the camera by accident when aiming at the corners. It was the most awesome FPS experience I've had on console imho. For CoD I had more fun using a mouse and keyboard on PC tbh, I did play it very early on Wii but I did not like how sensitive the camera would get with slight corner movements, although it may have been my settings too. Which other FPS games were you playing with Wiimote?
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Let's be honest here, we all know TC is full of shit
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It's Nintendo, so a Switch XL is a possibility down the road. Hopefully later than sooner since I just got one
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Cozy posted...
slightlord posted...A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote than with joycons or a Pro controller. Should have played the Wii U versions the sensitivity problems are fixed and the Wii U version is far better for it. Hell, games like Conduit for Wii solved that problem. However, obviously mouse and keyboard is the best way to go but that is not the most practical way for home consoles (especially the way my home is set up) gamers to enjoy their games. Wii remote is a much superior option to joycons, in my opinion. Because of the lack of pointer controls, I have no interest in FPS games and on-rails shooters on Switch. The fact that Wii U had the option (which gave you and me our preferred console experience) and Switch does not means in the eyes of some (myself included), Switch is a step backward. Not to mention the off TV play which made 1v1 CoD amazing with no screen peeking or co-op online with no split screen and screen freedom.
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Maverick_Reznor posted...
Let's be honest here, we all know TC is full of shit Second'd. Who the hell wants the console to be their pad for TV Mode? Same with using Wiimotes, not the kind of shit I want to be using when I'm out and about with my Switch. As for pointer controls, well like them if you want. I'm glad we're putting that behind us, motion controls of that kind are best left to VR inputs at this point. Heck I'm just glad Nintendo have their game together again, the Wii U is the one console I've never really enjoyed playing, just finicky as heck when I demo'd at games conventions or retail stores, and I wasn't going to pay for one just to see if I'd enjoy it better in my home. As a note, I'm not shelling out for the pro controller for the Switch, I'm fine docking my controllers to the pad, the normal pad is great and I can still claw-grip easily. |
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slightlord posted...
Cozy posted...slightlord posted...A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote than with joycons or a Pro controller. Doesn't each joycon contain a gyroscope to let you aim? Would it be possible to just use one of them to aim? I have not played a shooting game on Switch yet (Splatoon 2 is coming on the mail soon for me), so I'm just wondering about this. I do have BotW but iirc you need to use both joycons to aim the bow, which felt awkward to me. btw I'll give shooters a more fair chance on Wii U. Could've also been the fact that the Wiimotes did not have motion plus natively when I played it way back.
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PatrickSheehan posted...
Im not full of it. I have a photo of the receipt. Thought I could post it here. Seriously no one cares. No one cared about the WiiU which is why it suffered during its existence. The Switch has some issues but the duel screen gimmick is not one of them. |
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Cozy posted...
slightlord posted...Cozy posted...slightlord posted...A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote than with joycons or a Pro controller. Motion controls are not pointer controls. They are not an adequate substitute for pointer controls. I strongly dislike motion controls and wish those were left in last generation but instead pointer controls, the superior control option, has been left behind.
I lost my second born daughter. I hope my pain is one you never EVER experience. In loving memory of Iyolah Phaeri Hassan 3-31-2006
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Nintendo should release soon a Nintendo Switch Pro that's at least twice as powerful as the original Nintendo Switch so that the Nintendo Switch family of systems can better get Xbox One and PlayStation 4 ports.
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Xenon2MB posted...
Nintendo should release soon a Nintendo Switch Pro that's at least twice as powerful as the original Nintendo Switch so that the Nintendo Switch family of systems can better get Xbox One and PlayStation 4 ports. Firstly, splintering the install base is a bad idea. I don't like that Microsoft and Sony did it and they even made sure that there was software parity. The proposition you make would most definitely NOT have software parity, which makes it even worse Secondly, there are 3 platforms out there for that kind of experience. We don't need a fourth
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Having a Switch that could function like the Wii U would essentially just be two consoles wouldn't it? I don't want to know what the price tag would be on that.
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Rolfin posted...
Xenon2MB posted...Nintendo should release soon a Nintendo Switch Pro that's at least twice as powerful as the original Nintendo Switch so that the Nintendo Switch family of systems can better get Xbox One and PlayStation 4 ports. I'm talking for like 2 or 3 years time, I'm sure they will release a Nintendo Switch Mini or Nintendo Switch Micro before then, perhaps announce it late 2018 or early 2019. Would be perfect to replace Nintendo 3DS. 4 inch screen, much smaller bezel, smaller and more lightweight, better battery. I'd buy such a redesign for sure, a fully portable, pocket friendly Nintendo Switch mini edition.
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Xenon2MB posted...
Rolfin posted...Xenon2MB posted...Nintendo should release soon a Nintendo Switch Pro that's at least twice as powerful as the original Nintendo Switch so that the Nintendo Switch family of systems can better get Xbox One and PlayStation 4 ports. I fully expect at least 2 revisions in the Switch's lifetime. What I was referring to was the idea that those revisions should boost power... And they shouldn't. At best, I see a Switch with more RAM(they've done kind of thing that before), but no actual power increase
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PatrickSheehan posted...
I was on the fence about purchasing a Switch which I finally did, only to return it the next day. I've owned every Nintendo console and most of their portable systems but the Wii U will most likely be my last and favorite. It practically plays every good Nintendo game since the NES. It's almost impossible for me to get rid of now anyway since I have over 100 digital games on it. Look I am not going to shoot you down or anything but this is really a classic case of Nintendo cannot please everyone. For me I love everything about its design. The portable joy-cons that can be used as individual mini controllers or clicked into its own little casing that you get with the Switch for more of a standard console controller feel. Also like someone did mention you can also just get a pro-controller. The screen is a great size, the console is not too bulky or too big. I am surprised it is actually not bigger to be honest. Nah I am happy :) but what ever makes you happy wo/man. go for it!
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It'd be great if they came up with a new model that doesn't give me a static shock every time I decide to go portable.
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slightlord posted...
Cozy posted...slightlord posted...Cozy posted...slightlord posted...A Pro controller also would not solve the problem of games like CoD being more fun when played with a Wii Remote than with joycons or a Pro controller. True, pointer controls are far superior and besides keyboard and mouse, they are the best way to play FPS games (I remember rthem being particularly good for Pikmin as well), but games like Splatoon still use motion controls and control quite well, so I think there's still something to be said about that
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I love my Wii U, but there's no denying that the failure behind that system was the poor advertisement, and the Gamepad itself. The Switch has some flaws, but it's been a better marketing success in the first few months than the the Wii U did in its entire lifespan.
Honestly though, it's easier for me to enjoy shooters like Splatoon and Sin & Punishment Star Successor with motion controls.
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The Switch would definitely be improved if it could be used, like the Wii U, as a dual-screen system. But other than that it's better than the Wii U in every way.
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ChaosStar290 posted...
I love my Wii U, but there's no denying that the failure behind that system was the poor advertisement, and the Gamepad itself. The Switch has some flaws, but it's been a better marketing success in the first few months than the the Wii U did in its entire lifespan. I haven't tried the motion control settings in Splattoon 2 yet, I wonder how they compare. |
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slightlord posted...
Motion controls are not pointer controls. They are not an adequate substitute for pointer controls. I strongly dislike motion controls and wish those were left in last generation but instead pointer controls, the superior control option, has been left behind. I gotcha. Well that sucks, but after playing Splatoon yesterday with gyro controls, I can feel what you mean now. But I don't want to go back to aiming with a stick, so motion controls will have to do
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the only revision I'd want is a purely handheld one.
that would be godly
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TC is certainly entitled to his own opinion, however, his reasoning behind the 'need for a redesign' is totally flawed. Not counting the Wii U, can anyone tell me which consoles allow their controller to be used as a TV remote? Anyone? As for the Wii Motes, they served their purpose, and now it's time to move on. TC can live in the past and enjoy his Wii U and the games he has for it, and everyone else can enjoy their Switch games. The world will go on.
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SS4_Namreppiv posted...
TC is certainly entitled to his own opinion, however, his reasoning behind the 'need for a redesign' is totally flawed. Not counting the Wii U, can anyone tell me which consoles allow their controller to be used as a TV remote? Anyone? As for the Wii Motes, they served their purpose, and now it's time to move on. TC can live in the past and enjoy his Wii U and the games he has for it, and everyone else can enjoy their Switch games. The world will go on. 1) Why does it matter how many other consoles offered using the controller as a television controller? 2) Wii remotes, specifically the use of pointer controls, would still be extremely practical today. Even more practical than motion controls. I wish we would move on from motion controls but keep the pointer controls. Mouse and keyboard predated dual analog and motion controls but nobody in their right mind would say its time to move on from that. I am not saying your opinion is wrong, just showing how your opinion can be just as outdated as the opinion you disagree with. 3) I can enjoy both and I encourage the topic creator do the same but that does not mean Switch is not lacking in some areas. This does not mean that from generation to generation, for any company, features get left behind that we all want to return (like backwards compatibility) and wish to have a reasonable discussion about it. I hope you behave in a more sensible manner than this in the future.
I lost my second born daughter. I hope my pain is one you never EVER experience. In loving memory of Iyolah Phaeri Hassan 3-31-2006
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
It'd be great if they came up with a new model that doesn't give me a static shock every time I decide to go portable. ...you need to get an electrician to look at your outlet. It's the same as folks touching a coax input on a TV and getting a minor electric buzz from it. Your house has wiring problems. |
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