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Thursday, September 14, 2017

Remember when text size in video games was huge? And you know actually readable?

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saspa 1 week ago#1
https://r.mprd.se/media/images/34060-Illusion_of_Gaia_(USA)-1479674777.jpg

Look at how huge that text is. On a tv screen I could read it from like 40 meters away. 

Now let's look at a game from the quote unquote HD gen

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JFC. Just look at that. A huge screen, On a 60+ inch tv, and the text is literally squished and placed at the bottom. Barely readable from a meager 4 meter distance, since it's important to maintain a safe distance away from the tv instead of having your eyes glued to a screen just inches away. 

All that space, and they couldn't have the text maybe match up with the widescreen display?
that text in IoG is pretty f***ing huge though.

but yeah I know what you mean. I always turn text size up when I have the option and majority of games are unplayable to me (if they involve text) if I don't wear glasses ;(

I have a 50" TV too x_x
Bryfang 1 week ago#3
While admittedly that is pretty small, is that a voice acted game? If it is, I can forgive and understand why they didn't have the text take up half the screen.
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Helix snake 1 week ago#4
We bought an HDTV because the text on Batman Arkham Asylum was to small to read. This was in like 2008.
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_____Cait 1 week ago#5
I bought mine in 2010 because Lost Odyssey was too small
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Otimus 1 week ago#6
For whatever reason, when games became HD, everyone (ESPECIALLY WESTERN DEVS) forget how to scale UIs, and it's been like that ever since.

Some text is too small, even on my large 55" HDTV sometimes.

It's like console developers design their games for PC gamers/monitors.
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Yeah, this is a major problem and I can't understand why. It's one of the big frustrations I have with modern gaming.
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fft_ramza 1 week ago#8
I have a big TV and have very good eyesight and I still struggle with the font size in most games nowadays, it's so frustrating.
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Pus_N_Pecans 1 week ago#9
Yeah, it's pretty awful these days. I feel bad for any deaf gamers who don't play exclusively on the PC.
Nahid-San 1 week ago#10
I actually played red dead on my very low quality and small TV and I could still perfectly read the subtitles and text. Red dead doesn't really have small text. A game that has a really, really, REALLY, small text is "Tropico 3". I went to the tutorial section to learn how to play and what are the mechanics and the structure of the game, and well.....I tried as hard as I could, I even brought my face close to the TV....and I still couldn't read a damn word. And worst of all, the text does have voice over....but it's in a crappy Brazilian/Mexican accent, and I couldn't understand a damn word. How can anyone possibly understand how to play that game? 

The text of the item description of dark souls games is also pretty small (and by that I mean way smaller than RDR), but unlike Tropico 3, it's still readable and there were only a few words that I couldn't properly read and had to bring myself close to the TV. No game that I have played has had text as annoyingly small as Tropico 3. F*** that game and whoever thought it was good idea to make the text so small and put a terrible voice acting on it. 

The letters and documents in Resident evil revelations, gears of War, and other games that have letters in them, and the historical figures and locations profile of Assassin's creed games also have a small text (though still readable, but it's annoying to read them because of how small they are). Overall, I don't have a problem with the text size of the subtitles, my problem is with the text size of item descriptions, character profiles, and basically, optional stuff that add some more story and tell you more about the game and it's world. At least some games add (understandable) voice over to them, like Bioshock (the audio logs), or batman arkham asylum (the tapes).
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MrSCARY 1 week ago#11
It's like I've gone back in time like 8 years in here...
I haven't really noticed... But then again I'm usually playing indies and Nintendo's games so I guess I don't have much to notice it on besides Xeno X.
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Bryfang posted...
While admittedly that is pretty small, is that a voice acted game? If it is, I can forgive and understand why they didn't have the text take up half the screen.
Otimus 1 week ago#14
MrSCARY posted...
It's like I've gone back in time like 8 years in here...

It's not like this problem stopped existing.
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As a legally blind person 90% of the text in modern games is unreadable to me
I couldn't read a single dialog bubble form NPCs in Star Ocean despite having the best possible glasses for my condition, a big enough TV and sitting close to it, my eyes are just not good enough.

I couldn't read a single line of in-game text in FF15 either, tho zooming in during the menus thanks to PS4's built in zoom function made a world of difference for me
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Another upcoming game that has this issue is Blue Reflection
I was going to pre order it but now I'm not sure sure, the game is sub only and the subs are very small for me, yet I can read subbed anime just fine but sub anime groups know what they're doing and make the text a fine, sufficient size
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Icewitch 1 week ago#17
True story: Not being able to read text in Horizon is how I knew it was time for me to get glasses.
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metaIslugg 1 week ago#18
on SNES it's impossible to make small font though
_Goggalor_ 1 week ago#19
Honestly, I'm having this exact problem with the inventory in RE7. I'll get to a door I have a key for and there are enemies behind me, then I have to get up close so I can see what's what and use the right key.
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Icewitch posted...
True story: Not being able to read text in Horizon is how I knew it was time for me to get glasses.


Is the text important? This will determine my purchase of the game because even with my glasses I won't be able to read it.
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A someone who has no problem with reading modern text, I agree that it is a problem for many (and maybe for me as I get older). I'm not sure why they couldn't just include a bigger text mode as an option.
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_____Cait 1 week ago#22
Final fantasy 14 is really bad at tis too. The text you CAN upscale is useless. You cant read anything from npc characters
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_____Cait posted...
Final fantasy 14 is really bad at tis too. The text you CAN upscale is useless. You cant read anything from npc characters


Windowed Fullscreen in combination with the Windows's Built in zoom function helps a ton
otherwise the story is a literal pain to read for me
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It's the worst when they port a isometric game made for PC to consoles. They text is tiny because it was originally meant for small monitors.
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LLKoolJosh 1 week ago#25
I f***ing hate small font so f***ing bad
coolblue16 1 week ago#26
It's f***ing ridiculous how all games have tiny text ever since gaming went HD years ago. A few years ago I sincerely thought I needed glasses because I struggled so much with reading text in every game I was playing even though I wasn't sitting unreasonably far from my TV. I go to the ophthalmologist and he tells me my vision is 20/20, then I notice I don't have trouble seeing/reading anything other than modern video game text. It's inexcusable.
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PStrife 1 week ago#27
You need an HD tv for HD gaming systems. Otherwise you are eventually screwed when it comes to reading important text.
Otimus 1 week ago#28
PStrife posted...
You need an HD tv for HD gaming systems. Otherwise you are eventually screwed when it comes to reading important text.


This is about text being small on HDTVs.


Another good example: GTA V. Not just text, either. A lot of it's HUD elements in general are ultra tiny and seemingly designed with the idea of you either having a huge TV or sitting ~3 feet from it.
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PStrife posted...
You need an HD tv for HD gaming systems. Otherwise you are eventually screwed when it comes to reading important text.

Even with that it's a pain.
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ecco6t9 1 week ago#30
I can't read text on some Vita games but still see handheld LCD games just fine.
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I remember this causing a lot of complaints with BK Nuts & Bolts back in 2008. People still using CRTs simply couldn't read the text because it was too small.

I had to stop playing Muramasa on my CRT because the f***ing health bar was offscreen.
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Sage JJ 1 week ago#32
Sounds like tc needs his eyes checked. I hve my pc hooked to my tv as my monitor and the RDR text is more than readable in that pic
saspa 1 week ago#33
Otimus posted...
For whatever reason, when games became HD, everyone (ESPECIALLY WESTERN DEVS) forget how to scale UIs, and it's been like that ever since.

Some text is too small, even on my large 55" HDTV sometimes.

It's like console developers design their games for PC gamers/monitors.

Oh my god in heaven THANK YOU. I've been saying this for the past 10 years but have been written off and trolled time and time again despite my being right. So glad to see others have noticed it too.
uDubstep 1 week ago#34
saspa posted...
Otimus posted...
For whatever reason, when games became HD, everyone (ESPECIALLY WESTERN DEVS) forget how to scale UIs, and it's been like that ever since.

Some text is too small, even on my large 55" HDTV sometimes.

It's like console developers design their games for PC gamers/monitors.

Oh my god in heaven THANK YOU. I've been saying this for the past 10 years but have been written off and trolled time and time again despite my being right. So glad to see others have noticed it too.

I've always agreed on this as well. I play on a nice 49" screen and sometimes the text is way too small. No reason for that IMO...
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saspa 5 days ago#35
^ ^ Agreed. I myself had a 56incher back in gen 7 and would constantly wave my hands in exasperation at the tiny font. It was especially trying in a game like Assassin's Creed, a particular bizarre example of a game with a huge database and lore, yet no option to increase the text size, if they weren't gonna make the default any bigger (and it was deplorably minuscule)
saspa 1 day ago#36
Otimus posted...
PStrife posted...
You need an HD tv for HD gaming systems. Otherwise you are eventually screwed when it comes to reading important text.


This is about text being small on HDTVs.


Another good example: GTA V. Not just text, either. A lot of it's HUD elements in general are ultra tiny and seemingly designed with the idea of you either having a huge TV or sitting ~3 feet from it.

Exactly. I actually noticed it in GTA 4, although I simply disliked what they did with everything there, like making health and armor these tiny barely visible borders around the already small HUD minimap display, instead of the clearly visible health icons of the ps2 gta games. I don't even mind not having a numerical value for health, just a visible health bar and armor bar.
drivenby 1 day ago#37
I bought the Witcher 3 twice, cause the ps4 version is f***ing unplayable with the tiny text and convoluted UI
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furb 1 day ago#38
CykloneTiger posted...
Bryfang posted...
While admittedly that is pretty small, is that a voice acted game? If it is, I can forgive and understand why they didn't have the text take up half the screen.


I play games muted alot. Also, i can read way faster than hearing. I also dont miss small details.

I also fully support voice acting, but having readable subs is nice.
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InnerSpace 1 day ago#39
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