There are/will be potential million-sellers every single month this year. March: Zelda: Breath of the Wild April: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe May: Minecraft: Switch Edition June: ARMs July: Splatoon 2 August: Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle September: Pokken Tournament DX October: Mario Odyssey and Fire Emblem Warriors November: Skyrim December: Xenoblade 2 Third parties are happy:
"Ultra Street Fighter 2 for the Nintendo Switch had a favourable launch, exceeding our forecast," said Capcom, without divulging sales figures.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-28-ultra-street-fighter-2-on-nintendo-switch-does-the-business-for-capcomTuovinen notes that Frozenbyte's first Switch game, Has-Been Heroes, did very well, and Omar Cornut shares that Lizardcube have sold "more copies of Wonder Boy on the Switch than the three other platforms we released on combined."https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/305284/Rise_of_the_Nindies_Indie_devs_discuss_porting_to_the_Switch.phpAcross the eShops in Japan, The US, and the UK, Minecraft has claimed the top spot on the Best Sellers tab, beating out other chart toppers like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/minecraft_nintendo_switch_edition_is_off_to_a_roaring_start_on_the_eshop_chartsPlus with a mainline Pokemon on the way (which will also be the very first mainline HD Pokemon game ever), can anyone doubt at this point that the Switch has nowhere to go but up? --- Sig
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You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on. Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
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(Topic Creator)2 days ago#3
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I am not claiming that Switch has great third party support at this point in time. I am saying that if you are a third party and you are seeing the data I have shown here, it's pretty hard to argue against developing for the Switch.
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1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I'll be genuinely interested to see how you spin the Switch as a failure in a few years. Will it be that the sales don't matter because the games didn't meet X criteria in your eyes? That's my guess
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Still too early to say it will be a hit, especially with 3rd parties.
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1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
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If you keep talking about me, I will keep pointing out your obsession.
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PunkRockGiik posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I am not claiming that Switch has great third party support at this point in time. I am saying that if you are a third party and you are seeing the data I have shown here, it's pretty hard to argue against developing for the Switch.
Nintendo games and a few others always find success on their systems. Doesn't mean third-parties in general will do well on the systems. You only have to look at Nintendo's previous four systems.
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(Topic Creator)2 days ago#9
1337toothbrush posted...
PunkRockGiik posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I am not claiming that Switch has great third party support at this point in time. I am saying that if you are a third party and you are seeing the data I have shown here, it's pretty hard to argue against developing for the Switch.
Nintendo games and a few others always find success on their systems. Doesn't mean third-parties in general will do well on the systems. You only have to look at Nintendo's previous four systems.
They are doing well though. A constant stream of Nintendo games (since Nintendo has both its console and handheld divisions working on the same system) are creating demand for the hardware, and the software for multi platform games are selling better on the Switch due to its portability.
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It's never worked out that way. Nintendo does that with all of their systems. There is a reason why they suffer from droughts. They have periods where Nintendo releases a bunch of stuff and then droughts. Those droughts are where you assume third-parties will fill in but they never do.
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(Topic Creator)2 days ago#11
1337toothbrush posted...
It's never worked out that way. Nintendo does that with all of their systems. There is a reason why they suffer from droughts. They have periods where Nintendo releases a bunch of stuff and then droughts. Those droughts are where you assume third-parties will fill in but they never do.
Again, Nintendo has its handheld and console divisions all working on the same system now. And Nintendo's portables have always been successful for third parties.
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Double the Nintendo games, still pitiful third-party offerings.
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People buy Switch, beat Zelda and are starving for games, buy a couple of the decent looking indie games which get lost on the other platforms due to the massive amount of games on the competing systems. "ohmergard the Switch is selling 3rd party software in the billions, it's a gigantic success"
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PunkRockGiik posted...
Nintendo's portables have always been successful for third parties
For some. Most won't get anything out of it. Using Gust as a recent example, the Switch version of NoA2 got outsold by the Vita version.
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(Topic Creator)2 days ago#15
1337toothbrush posted...
Double the Nintendo games, still pitiful third-party offerings.
Third parties will go where the money is. People who really care about graphics will buy their games on PC. Those who care about portability will get a Switch. I imagine Switch will have more successful indy games for this reason, along with the usual Nintendo big hitters.
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1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
toothy is one of the most lucid people on this board except when it comes to the switch. the switch is selling well above what analysts suggested and it isn't even through its first year yet. its basically running on a few ports right now. they drop some mario and pokemon this thing will be through the roof
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PunkRockGiik posted...
Third parties will go where the money is.
Not 100% true. It didn't happen with the Wii. They just put shovelware on it. Or the 3DS, even. Pretty much no one cares about it outside of select Japanese third parties. I think Nintendo gamers just need to make peace that nothing is ever going to change when it comes to third parties. It's more of an attitude problem with Nintendo that's causing problems, than actual hardware, probably, TBH, and that shows no signs of changing. Maybe once NOA stops being just a big loud mouthpiece for NOJ, and Nintendo in general start giving more than two s***s about anything that's not Japan, things can start moving forward. I can tell you, I didn't buy my Switch expecting anything but Nintendo games, and that hasn't changed. It'd be nice if it does, because I love the hardware, but I'm sure not expecting it, or hyping it up because I really don't think it's going to happen.
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You can't call the Switch successful until it goes down to $250, has PS4's lifetimr sales numbers, and has every stops getting "old" ports of games everyone already bought on another console. -NGG logic. In all seriousness it's doing good atm but people should keep the pressure on Nintendo to get more games: new third-party, localizations, new entries in old titles, and good indies. Remember: no games --> no console purchases --> no games --> no console purchases At the same time the Switch needs to keep up with it's current marketing.
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Has any Nintendo handheld not been successful yet? The decline is what will be interesting.
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No. Still waiting for the 3rd parties that make games for handhelds to finally make games for the Switch. Until then, it's just another Nintendo console that relies on 1st party games which can lead to some all too common droughts.
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no because people will keep moving the goalposts so they can keep deeming switch a failure, or use some arbitrary goalpost despite a different environment. like how people kept claiming the 3DS was a complete and utter failure because the sales numbers weren't higher than the DS, the #1 selling nintendo handheld.
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LuminescentRule posted...
Has any Nintendo handheld not been successful yet? The decline is what will be interesting.
Well, 3DS wasn't as successful as its respective predecessors (for various reasons). On topic: Still too early to tell. Whether Nintendo meets its projected sales is still up in the air at this point, and even that will not give a clear indication as to how it will do in its second year, which IMO is the real litmus test. Quite a few systems sold well year one only to falter in year two (Saturn, N64, DC, GC, WiiU iirc).
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So far. Hoping they can keep the momentum. Octopath Traveler, NMH, and SMT all look like amazing Switch exclusives.
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KnightofShikari posted...
no because people will keep moving the goalposts so they can keep deeming switch a failure, or use some arbitrary goalpost despite a different environment. like how people kept claiming the 3DS was a complete and utter failure because the sales numbers weren't higher than the DS, the #1 selling nintendo handheld.
It also wasn't higher than the pre-DS Nintendo mainline portables either, in either hardware or software sales (and the software dev costs were higher on 3DS, which further hurt margins). Just FYI on that.
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SunburnCostanza posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I'll be genuinely interested to see how you spin the Switch as a failure in a few years.
Will it be that the sales don't matter because the games didn't meet X criteria in your eyes? That's my guess
Nintendo has been failing since the 19th century, didn't you know?. It's just a matter of time before they crash and burn for good!
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spiffyone posted...
LuminescentRule posted...
Has any Nintendo handheld not been successful yet? The decline is what will be interesting.
Well, 3DS wasn't as successful as its respective predecessors (for various reasons).
On topic:
Still too early to tell. Whether Nintendo meets its projected sales is still up in the air at this point, and even that will not give a clear indication as to how it will do in its second year, which IMO is the real litmus test. Quite a few systems sold well year one only to falter in year two (Saturn, N64, DC, GC, WiiU iirc).
True but still, 67M can be considered successful.
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LaManoNeraII posted...
SunburnCostanza posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I'll be genuinely interested to see how you spin the Switch as a failure in a few years.
Will it be that the sales don't matter because the games didn't meet X criteria in your eyes? That's my guess
Nintendo has been failing since the 19th century, didn't you know?. It's just a matter of time before they crash and burn for good!
We're going to forget about the WiiU now?
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The thing hasn't even been out a year yet.
Plus, Nintendo systems traditionally start off strong out the gate and then wither away after a while.
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LuminescentRule posted...
LaManoNeraII posted...
SunburnCostanza posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I'll be genuinely interested to see how you spin the Switch as a failure in a few years.
Will it be that the sales don't matter because the games didn't meet X criteria in your eyes? That's my guess
Nintendo has been failing since the 19th century, didn't you know?. It's just a matter of time before they crash and burn for good!
We're going to forget about the WiiU now?
ANY DAY NOW I said!
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PunkRockGiik posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
Double the Nintendo games, still pitiful third-party offerings.
Third parties will go where the money is.
People who really care about graphics will buy their games on PC. Those who care about portability will get a Switch. I imagine Switch will have more successful indy games for this reason, along with the usual Nintendo big hitters.
That's what people said about the Wii when it sold the most systems that generation. The third-parties didn't follow. Developers care about having their games on multiple systems. The Switch is too weak to even be on the level of PS4 and Xbox One. That leaves indies. Indie games don't hold up platforms. Even then indie games are bigger on the other platforms. Infiniterran posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
toothy is one of the most lucid people on this board except when it comes to the switch. the switch is selling well above what analysts suggested and it isn't even through its first year yet. its basically running on a few ports right now. they drop some mario and pokemon this thing will be through the roof
Just like with the Wii, right?
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SunburnCostanza posted...
1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
I'll be genuinely interested to see how you spin the Switch as a failure in a few years.
Will it be that the sales don't matter because the games didn't meet X criteria in your eyes? That's my guess
Unfortunately for you, you won't be able to see the spin because I won't have to spin anything. It will, however, be fun to see you spin the Switch inevitably shriveling up like the rest of Nintendo's systems since the Nintendo 64. The Wii was their best seller in that period and games-wise it was still s***.
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LuminescentRule posted...
spiffyone posted...
LuminescentRule posted...
Has any Nintendo handheld not been successful yet? The decline is what will be interesting.
Well, 3DS wasn't as successful as its respective predecessors (for various reasons).
On topic:
Still too early to tell. Whether Nintendo meets its projected sales is still up in the air at this point, and even that will not give a clear indication as to how it will do in its second year, which IMO is the real litmus test. Quite a few systems sold well year one only to falter in year two (Saturn, N64, DC, GC, WiiU iirc).
True but still, 67M can be considered successful.
In a vacuum, sure. But it didn't exist in a vacuum. And hardware sales aren't even the major barometer for success as concerns video game systems anyway. It wasn't an absolute failure or anything, but it wasn't a comparable success to its respective predecessors. But, as I stated, it's far too early to tell either way with Switch, so no one should be celebrating or going all negative yet. And it's not like 3DS where there were indicators early on that it would face an uphill battle, because in that case we were dealing with a portable strictly in the portable market that was going against some of what was conventional wisdom is said market. Switch, as a hybrid, is something different. There is no real conventional wisdom to work with because the product itself is bucking convention by design.
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The opening post forgot the recent Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 info: http://www.saiyanisland.com/2017/09/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-switch-version-is-a-hit-dlc-good-news-for-fighterz/
Bandai Namco Entertainment Japan has announced Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 on the Nintendo Switch is a hit! The game was released earlier this week on September 7 and the game has hit a shortage in terms of the physical version in Japan. More shipments of the physical version are expected to Japan toward the end of this month. Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 is also available on the Japanese eShop and is listed as the third most popular currently behind a Monster Hunter and Minecraft titles. The popularity of this almost year old game on Switch is certainly good news for fans who want to see Bandai Namco Entertainment and Arc System Works’ Dragon Ball FighterZ on Nintendo’s Switch.
"Why do you think they call me Shiro Kabocha?"
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spiffyone posted...
LuminescentRule posted...
spiffyone posted...
LuminescentRule posted...
Has any Nintendo handheld not been successful yet? The decline is what will be interesting.
Well, 3DS wasn't as successful as its respective predecessors (for various reasons).
On topic:
Still too early to tell. Whether Nintendo meets its projected sales is still up in the air at this point, and even that will not give a clear indication as to how it will do in its second year, which IMO is the real litmus test. Quite a few systems sold well year one only to falter in year two (Saturn, N64, DC, GC, WiiU iirc).
True but still, 67M can be considered successful.
In a vacuum, sure. But it didn't exist in a vacuum. And hardware sales aren't even the major barometer for success as concerns video game systems anyway.
It wasn't an absolute failure or anything, but it wasn't a comparable success to its respective predecessors.
But, as I stated, it's far too early to tell either way with Switch, so no one should be celebrating or going all negative yet. And it's not like 3DS where there were indicators early on that it would face an uphill battle, because in that case we were dealing with a portable strictly in the portable market that was going against some of what was conventional wisdom is said market. Switch, as a hybrid, is something different. There is no real conventional wisdom to work with because the product itself is bucking convention by design.
Hardware sales is the major barometer for success for us here. Always has been.
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Honestly, we have to wait until probably spring of next year to be sure. Right now it looks like the answer will be a yes though, momentum is such a big deal in the first year, it's where Wii U fell flat on it's face, but where Wii succeeded; and Switch is looking like Wii so far, except possibly quite a bit better because 3rd parties that have taken the time to put games on it are raving about the great sales they're getting so far, and big 3rd parties were taken really off guard by Wii's success and I don't think they want to miss the boat again. Switch will never get release parity with PS & Xbox systems for the huge budget games though, but if it's the success it's looking like it is going to be, 3rd parties will put in the effort to make respectable versions of at least a fair amount of those kinds of games. I do really think that if Switch is the success it's looking like it will be, the level of software sales on the platform is going to surprise everyone, I suspect way more people than expected will just decide if there's a Switch version that is the one they want because it's not stuck on a stationary console, they can play it on the go as well, or while laying in bed or wherever. It will be really interesting to see how well Skyrim & L.A. Noire fair on Switch; if at least Skyrim racks up massive sales then I believe we'll start to see the floodgates really open. Also, people keep saying that the mainstream will lose interest slowly as Zelda fades off into the sunset; but while I think the Zelda glow will continue through this holiday season; I view Zelda & Mario as Nintendo's 1-2 Punch this year, and Mario Odyssey is likely to kick things into high gear for the holiday season for Switch.
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LuminescentRule posted...
Hardware sales is the major barometer for success for us here. Always has been.
Which is why the Wii is considered the best system of last gen.
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Otimus posted...
Not 100% true. It didn't happen with the Wii. They just put shovelware on it.
Okay, this isn't a pro-Nintendo or anti-nintendo stance or anything. I just need to throw it our there that third parties released shovelware on the Wii BECAUSE it was a system designed to sell shovelware. This was the console that even grandpa and grandma were buying just for the gimmick of waving your arms around to pretend like you were playing tennis. The Wii sold ridiculously well, but you can't expect "gamer's" games to come out on a system that was marketed towards non-gamers, primarily
"Ignorance is bliss until they take your bliss away."
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Rolfin posted...
Otimus posted...
Not 100% true. It didn't happen with the Wii. They just put shovelware on it.
Okay, this isn't a pro-Nintendo or anti-nintendo stance or anything. I just need to throw it our there that third parties released shovelware on the Wii BECAUSE it was a system designed to sell shovelware. This was the console that even grandpa and grandma were buying just for the gimmick of waving your arms around to pretend like you were playing tennis.
The Wii sold ridiculously well, but you can't expect "gamer's" games to come out on a system that was marketed towards non-gamers, primarily
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct!
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Nintendo fans don't even care if their has games on it (which it still doesn't) just as long as it sells well and their precious Ninty is well that's all they need
...or possibly this is self-reassurance for the big mistake they made last gen
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It's way too early to make such statements. I mean, I have a bad feeling that this will be yet another flop in 2-3 years, but I'd be an idiot to pretend I know for sure that will be the case...
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1337toothbrush posted...
You know, the inevitable failure of Nintendo consoles would be just a little less pathetic if you Nintendo fanboys would stop hyping them up so much early on.
Most of those are Nintendo games while the rest are ports. Oh wait, we have one non-Nintendo-franchise sequel made by a third-party developer. If you can't tell why this is a problem, then you're deluded beyond all hope.
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Update: https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/907546494001172480
We can also confirm #Switch being a great home 4 Indies! #Oceanhorn sold more copies on #NintendoSwitch than all other consoles combined. <3
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1337toothbrush posted...
That's what people said about the Wii when it sold the most systems that generation. The third-parties didn't follow.
Nice revisionist history. Apparently you missed all the shovelware third parties gave it following that money train
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Kaitouace posted...
Update:
https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/907546494001172480
We can also confirm #Switch being a great home 4 Indies! #Oceanhorn sold more copies on #NintendoSwitch than all other consoles combined. <3
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@MushroomMuncherThe guy isn't revisioning anything, drone. He's not technically wrong. A lot of big third party games didn't make it to the Wii.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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@MushroomMuncherA lame Lord of the Rings reference. The guy ain't technically wrong, drone. Wii missed out on a number of third party games that were on other systems.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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old-new72 posted...
@MushroomMuncher
A lame Lord of the Rings reference. The guy ain't technically wrong, drone. Wii missed out on a number of third party games that were on other systems.
Because third parties wanted the casual money now be quiet retrogollem
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@MushroomMuncherWho wouldn't want the casuals when they tried to cash in the gimmick. As I said, the guy ain't technically wrong. Now be quiet, drone. Using the same lame reference from the same lame movies.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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