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With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too?
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slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? Well, it's pretty dumb to assume that Switch would lose support and PS4/XB1 would not if this game sold poorly on all. It just means that there's no audience for this type of game anywhere, and that a different game may be more fitting.
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? Not at all. Xbox/PS gamers have proven time and time again that they'll buy most games. Devs are satisfied with the response from Xbox/PS gamers. They know there is a market for their games on those platforms. Nintendo gamers on the other hand, have shown time and time again that they don't buy games outside of Nintendo and a select few third party devs. Devs can't trust Nintendo gamers like they can Xbox/PS gamers. |
I don't think it should depend on that, but who knows, maybe the company isn't willing to support the console altogether and they're releasing this game...for some weird reason. People need to comprehend that this will cost more expensive than on PS4/ONE, that it's a 6-year old game and not precisely one of Rockstar's flagpship titles.
It's not as bad as what Capcom is doing, though, since they have explicitly said that they will determine the support they're going to give to the machine based on the performance of their over-priced ports of 1+ year old games. But I don't believe such a thing, it's dumb.
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DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? There is a market on PS/XB because they stuck with them through all manner of sales, from the good and the bad. where else could they have gone if no one liked their games on those platforms? If they are looking for trust, then they must be willing to provide that which trust can be gained. Trust is not simply given. Trust is earned. A single game, especially one so significantly different from the rest by the one developer, is not enough to prove if an audience would like their other games.
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L.A. Noir is definitely a strange choice to determine future consideration. Not that it's a bad game, but it's interesting that they didn't choose to port over GTA IV or V, or Red Dead Redemption - Popular Rockstar games that sold very well.
Perhaps the size of the games is what determined what would get ported over? If that's the case, I'm not sure if L.A. Noir's success would make any difference in attracting bigger games. Maybe if those bigger games were digital-only? I'm trying to imagine how they would work that if it happened.
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? Nintendo fans have failed each and every time Rockstar has ported a game. Hell, the Wii got the best version of Bully and Chinatown Wars was great, yet Nintendo fans turned their nose up. L.A. Noire isn't the first test, it's simply the latest for Nintendo fans. |
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DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? Bully sold 500K on Wii, whereas it sold 1.07m on the 360. PS3 never got it. Why didn't PS3 get it? Was it because they felt there would be no audience for it? 500K is still more than 0. If only those PS3 owners had the chance...... R* blamed piracy for Chinatown Wars' numbers, not lack of interest, even though it still sold more on DS than it did on PSP. We should look into all possibilities and conditions, right? Not assume it's a specific scenario, like saying Nintendo fans turned their nose up?
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? The PS3 didn't get it because the PS2 did. They probably thought not enough people would double dip. The PSP actually outsold the DS versions. When all other possibilities have been exhausted, what remains must be the truth. Nintendo fans do not buy Rockstar games. |
slyman19 posted...
The PS3 didn't get it because the PS2 did. They probably thought not enough people would double dip. Didn't stop the 360 version from selling more, and releasing 2 years after the PS2 version with far fewer hardware units sold. Still, it only sold 1.07 million copies on 360. Selling 500K on Wii isn't exactly "turning a nose up" on it by comparison. And what's your source on the Chinatown Wars numbers? You can dismiss VGChartz all you want, but unless you got proof of your own from elsewhere, then you've got nothing but assumptions. How easily you exhausted all other possibilities after you went berserk about "considering all possibilities" before like there was no end to them. This is just your excuse to get out of an argument with an unproven claim.
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...The PS3 didn't get it because the PS2 did. They probably thought not enough people would double dip. Wait a f***ing second, you actually used Vgchartz? What the f*** is wrong with you? |
slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...The PS3 didn't get it because the PS2 did. They probably thought not enough people would double dip. And your numbers come from.........
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the_NGW posted...
*third party releases game on Nintendo system* Can you blame people with companies like Ubsisoft getting pissy when we didn't buy their rushed AC ports back on the U? Or when Capcom was happy to see how well Super Street Fighter did, and then go and tell us future support now depends on RE: Revelations sales? Sometimes it feels like we're being blackmailed for support.
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slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...And your numbers come from......... Like I said, "you can dismiss VGChartz all you want, but unless you got proof of your own from elsewhere, then you've got nothing but assumptions."
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Let's be honest, most people aren't going to buy this game anyway. It's ages old and wasn't a heavy hitter when it released then. If It was GTA5, that may be a different story. Sure GTA5 is old as well, but it has legs and still sells to this day. LA does not.
Hopefully Rockstar doesn't base it's support on a game that they know full and damn well wouldn't sell in the first place. In fact, the decision to bring this game to Switch in the first place baffles me, as they know everyone would rather just have GTA5 on the console. Guess we'll wait and see.
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slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...Like I said, "you can dismiss VGChartz all you want, but unless you got proof of your own from elsewhere, then you've got nothing but assumptions." So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty.
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DiscostewSM posted...
So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty. No need. I already won this argument, shill. Maybe you'll get me next time. |
slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty. Nope, you didn't, but nice try.
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slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...Nope, you didn't, but nice try. Should have known I was dealing with a stubborn donkey.
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Why support old ports? When you can buy both present full current gen games like NBA 2k18 and WWE 2k18. Both are part of Take Two Interactive which is basically the father of both Rockstar and 2k Games.
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slyman19 posted...
Heh, we both got fool then. I actually believed your numbers came from a good source. Considering how old those games are, they're probably accurate. That's how VGChartz works. They get numbers they believe are correct, then adjust them when numbers are actually given. I don't trust VGChartz with new game numbers. No one does. But old numbers are generally ok. These are roughly from a decade ago, where digital wasn't widespread enough to tip the scale.
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...Heh, we both got fool then. I actually believed your numbers came from a good source. Why bother? That's three threads tonight I've seen that guy pull the same s***.
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DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...Heh, we both got fool then. I actually believed your numbers came from a good source. Just trying to give him a chance.
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DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too? Well when the third party ports run worse and cost more whats the point? I'll just keep buying all my third party games on PC
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donkeypunch1116 posted...
Let's be honest, most people aren't going to buy this game anyway. It's ages old and wasn't a heavy hitter when it released then. If It was GTA5, that may be a different story. Sure GTA5 is old as well, but it has legs and still sells to this day. LA does not. I think that L.A. Noire was chosen for the port, because it can actually fit on a Switch cartridge whereas GTA V could not. I think that the only way GTA V could work on the Switch is if it was digital-only. What is interesting is that Rockstar went with L.A. Noire instead of Red Dead Redemption, which could fit on a cart. Perhaps that could be the next game if L.A. Noire sells well.
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SplatterHouse55 posted...
donkeypunch1116 posted...Let's be honest, most people aren't going to buy this game anyway. It's ages old and wasn't a heavy hitter when it released then. If It was GTA5, that may be a different story. Sure GTA5 is old as well, but it has legs and still sells to this day. LA does not. But GTA V fit on 360 disc. It can fit on switch
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SplatterHouse55 posted...donkeypunch1116 posted...Let's be honest, most people aren't going to buy this game anyway. It's ages old and wasn't a heavy hitter when it released then. If It was GTA5, that may be a different story. Sure GTA5 is old as well, but it has legs and still sells to this day. LA does not. Yeah, you're right. I mistakenly looked at how many GB it would take to upload the PS4 version (over 60 GB). The 360 digital version is 18 GB (without patches). It took two discs to run GTAV on the 360 - one of which had to be completely uploaded to the 360 - but the 2 discs together put the game at about 18 GB. However, the online portion of the game might have since inflated the size of the initial 18 GB game (and its 2 GB patch). I actually don't know if the online portion has been a growing mound of GB patches and updates, but I do remember that the online portion of the game wasn't available on the 360 when it launched, and for quite a while afterwards. The online portion is a lot of game that I'm pretty certain had to be added to the initial 18 GB game, although I don't know how many GB it would have increased the total. That being said, the Switch should be able to at least run the base game. Maybe the online portion of it is the sticking point, because it would make too much sense for GTAV to get released on the Switch. It's still a big seller, and I'm sure that GTAV on the go would be an attractive proposition for many. I guess it would make sense to release the base game on cartridge, and make the online portion a digital install. Perhaps Nintendo's online service is a factor for a possible release in the future. Anyhow, I'd agree that L.A. Noire is a strange choice for a port.
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DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...DiscostewSM posted...So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty. I hate to side with slyman19, but using VGChartz as a source for your claim indeed means that you lost the argument.
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SplatterHouse55 posted...donkeypunch1116 posted...Let's be honest, most people aren't going to buy this game anyway. It's ages old and wasn't a heavy hitter when it released then. If It was GTA5, that may be a different story. Sure GTA5 is old as well, but it has legs and still sells to this day. LA does not. That would require an overpriced 32gb card that sucks away all profit.
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Arcanine2009 posted...
honestly, GTA 5 should have been the first game. An 11 year old port that is a niche franchise isn't the best way to test the waters. EA seems to think otherwise with fifa 18...... That's bound to be missing features. And are using it as a testing ground. Again with possible missing features.
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GTA V single player would have worked on the Switch. GTA online would be way too gimped on the Switch.
But Rockstar clearly proved that they stopped caring about GTA V single player years ago, let alone going back to strip things for the Switch version and deal with extra licencing issues. LA Noire is the easier port for them.Nintendo Switch Friend Code:
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honestly, GTA 5 should have been the first game. An 11 year old port that is a niche franchise isn't the best way to test the waters.
EA seems to think otherwise with fifa 18...... That's bound to be missing features. And are using it as a testing ground. Again with possible missing features.
Rockstar isn't EA, and at least Fifa 18 is a current gen port.. Not a 6 year old port.Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need.AG--05 posted...EA seems to think otherwise with fifa 18...... That's bound to be missing features. And are using it as a testing ground. Again with possible missing features.
the games are being made to see if switch has fifa fans that arent on one of the other systems. that would mostly be people who enjoy the main game or ultimate team which are usually the main draws of the game. If missing that one mode means a no buy its not very likely that person was going to get the game anyway.finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend.DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...
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So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty.
No need. I already won this argument, shill. Maybe you'll get me next time.
Nope, you didn't, but nice try.
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AstralFrost posted...Yes, but then its unlikely the Switch will get any real 8th gen titles anyway, I mean this is just a 7th gen port.
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PS4 Pro won't get any real 9th gen titles like Super Mario Odyssey either...Consoles shouldn't be about 480p, 720p, 1080p or the prettiest slideshow.
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DiscostewSM posted...
So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty.
No need. I already won this argument, shill. Maybe you'll get me next time.
Nope, you didn't, but nice try.
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AstralFrost posted...Yes, but then its unlikely the Switch will get any real 8th gen titles anyway, I mean this is just a 7th gen port.
For as many people who usually jump directly in your lap every time you make a post, the truth sure seems to shut them the f*** up sometimes, doesn't it? ;)
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DiscostewSM posted...
So then, prove you're correct on those numbers. It shouldn't be that hard if you were so willing to claim it as such. At least with VGChartz, they may not always be s***. Numbers from your ass are always s***ty.
No need. I already won this argument, shill. Maybe you'll get me next time.
Nope, you didn't, but nice try.
I hate to side with slyman19, but using VGChartz as a source for your claim indeed means that you lost the argument.
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With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too?
It's pretty dumb to compare support for those consoles and Nintendo consoles.
Well, it's pretty dumb to assume that Switch would lose support and PS4/XB1 would not if this game sold poorly on all.
Not at all. Xbox/PS gamers have proven time and time again that they'll buy most games. Devs are satisfied with the response from Xbox/PS gamers. They know there is a market for their games on those platforms.
Nintendo gamers on the other hand, have shown time and time again that they don't buy games outside of Nintendo and a select few third party devs. Devs can't trust Nintendo gamers like they can Xbox/PS gamers.
The third party devs who have had immense success so far with third party releases on Switch may disagree with you...just sayin. Nice trolling attempt though.forte posted...The third party devs who have had immense success so far with third party releases on Switch may disagree with you...just sayin. Nice trolling attempt though.
your comment doesnt dispute his comment, he said a select few, and his post is correct. how is that trolling? it is a fact that devs are more likely to base nintendo support on a game by game basis, than they are the other systems.finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend.DiscostewSM posted...slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too?
It's pretty dumb to compare support for those consoles and Nintendo consoles.
Well, it's pretty dumb to assume that Switch would lose support and PS4/XB1 would not if this game sold poorly on all. It just means that there's no audience for this type of game anywhere, and that a different game may be more fitting.
Your point is stupid. The Switch WILL lose support if L.A . Noire does not sell well. This is Rockstar's test of the system. They already sold millions and millions of GTAV on PS4 and XB1. I can guarantee you that if that didn't sell well, they would have stopped making PS4 and XB1 games, because that's how business works. If you were a grown up, you'd understand it.forte posted...slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
slyman19 posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
With all the people saying how bad the game is, if it doesn't sell well on either PS4/XB1, does that mean that those platforms will lose Rockstar support too?
It's pretty dumb to compare support for those consoles and Nintendo consoles.
Well, it's pretty dumb to assume that Switch would lose support and PS4/XB1 would not if this game sold poorly on all.
Not at all. Xbox/PS gamers have proven time and time again that they'll buy most games. Devs are satisfied with the response from Xbox/PS gamers. They know there is a market for their games on those platforms.
Nintendo gamers on the other hand, have shown time and time again that they don't buy games outside of Nintendo and a select few third party devs. Devs can't trust Nintendo gamers like they can Xbox/PS gamers.
The third party devs who have had immense success so far with third party releases on Switch may disagree with you...just sayin. Nice trolling attempt though.
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