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http://nintendoeverything.com/atooi-talks-low-chicken-wiggle-sales-discount-next-week-no-more-3ds-games/
Oh..how sad..look at him..we should buy this game, right? https://mynintendonews.com/2017/06/28/chicken-wiggle-price-increases-to-15-for-the-nintendo-3ds-eshop/ Actually, no, f*** you This is what happens when you get greedy like a little s***
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Game looks okay. But that 14.99 price tag means it's gonna be 19.99 here in Canada.
so yeah, f*** no.
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When your game is priced at $14.99 and gets 7 and 8's out of 10 you're gonna have a bad time.
I mean it sounds like a cool concept. I just don't know why I should pay $14.99 for a game with a level editor. I've been playing around with Mega Maker and it's free! I think he was trying to capitalize on Mario Maker not being on par with the Wii U version and offering a platformer with level creation but the problem is that it's a brand new IP. With a shovelware name. From a dev whose past games have been hit and miss for a lot of people. Publicly whining about how he thought there was an error or delay in the sales report shows a high level of arrogance. And honestly I didn't even think about buying the game. I scrolled right past it on the eShop because it looked like a game from Circle or another shovelware dev. I didn't know what it was until I read pikachupwnage's topic here.
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That's 15 bucks? Holy s***, that's the price our team was thinking of asking for a fully-fledged action-platformer with 16 bits aesthetic, midbosses/bosses, story elements, BGMs at the quality level of Secret of Mana (it takes a s*** ton of time to rework a good track into a majestic track...) and upgradable subweapons.
Sure, we don't have a built-in level design tool, but who the f*** wants to build levels in the Chicken Wiggle Engine?
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My favorite part of this is how he apparently thought it was Nintendo's job to promote his game. Nintendo is not your marketing department, buddy, if they don't view your game as worth promoting then they are not to blame for your s***ty looking game. Chicken Wiggle doesn't look particularly fun and the name sounds like app store shovelware. It's not the audience moving on, it's not Nintendo deciding not to promote the game, it's you giving it a crappy name, a boring look and you failing to market it. What a colossally arrogant putz.
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Iokua posted...
My favorite part of this is how he apparently thought it was Nintendo's job to promote his game. Nintendo is not your marketing department, buddy, if they don't view your game as worth promoting then they are not to blame for your s***ty looking game. Chicken Wiggle doesn't look particularly fun and the name sounds like app store shovelware. It's not the audience moving on, it's not Nintendo deciding not to promote the game, it's you giving it a crappy name, a boring look and you failing to market it. What a colossally arrogant putz. Man you guys are TOXIC. Is it so unreasonable for him to expect his game to not be shoved into the dark corners of the eshop immediately? It should've at least been somewhere on the main shelf on its first week or two. There were very little new releases around it's release date. It's not like he is some nobody(relative to 3DS indie scene). He has made many 3DS games and was one of the earlier indie devs on the platformer with gamaes like Mutant Mudds and Xeodrifter that got good reviews. Runbow Pocket is a indie port and it has been near the front of the top shelf for a few months now.
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Salocool posted...
That's 15 bucks? Holy s***, that's the price our team was thinking of asking for a fully-fledged action-platformer with 16 bits aesthetic, midbosses/bosses, story elements, BGMs at the quality level of Secret of Mana (it takes a s*** ton of time to rework a good track into a majestic track...) and upgradable subweapons. People who like a nice simple little platformer that does something different? Why do we have to be so openly hateful to a tiny dev saying what is on his mind? He isn't entirely wrong in what he is saying(I do disagree on some points) but if you look at the reviews everywhere is saying it's a solid game. Why is everyone is this topic being so toxic? Especially you Salocool. Seriously can you ever post something remotely positive? I don't expect everyone to use honorifics and praise everything but you don't need to trash literally everything either. 3DS board is one of the few somewhat active boards that is semi pleasant. Can we keep it that way please?
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I'd literally never heard of this game before reading this topic. It actually looks like a fun game, but I have to agree that the title and the main characters do a bad enough job marketing the game as is.
. I actually would like the opportunity to play the game, but I'm not paying $10 to play it, let alone $15, even though it may be a great game. |
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Guess what Pikachup, I have plenty of good things to say about well-rounded game softwares, it's just that most games nowadays are either rushed through the roof, or are helmed by an incompetent director/producer.
Here's a list of random titles I could praise all day : Kirby Dreamland 1-2 + Adventure, Ducktales 2, MM2, DDS 1-2, Rondo of Blood, Etrian Odyssey Untold 1-2, Fire Emblem 7 + Conquest, DKC 2 + 3, Doom 1 + 2, Resident Evil 2 + 3 + 4, Duke Nukem 3D, Mario Bros 3, etc But Chicken Wiggle? More than 2,99$? They're taking the 3DS userbase for morons.
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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Well, they're not wrong in my case. This game does look somewhat interesting to me as a fan of platformers, but due to having other games I wanted to play on the Switch and my laptop I haven't got around to trying it yet.
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Salocool posted...
Guess what Pikachup, I have plenty of good things to say about well-rounded game softwares, but not nearly as much against poorly-conceived ones. 2.99$ seems a little too low come on. If it was just the campaign yeah I might agree 2.99 is a decent price. Should've been 9.99$ to start really though I was fine with the 15$. I definitely get thinking 15$ is too much but 2.99$ is just too little.
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ibrokethedam posted...
That's what happens when your game looks and sounds like shovelware and is priced very high for the eshop. It's also titled like shovelware.
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ibrokethedam posted...
That's what happens when your game looks and sounds like shovelware and is priced very high for the eshop. This. Plus it's Jools. He made one decent game that looked good (for a DS game) and everything else has been rubbish. Especially Mutant Mudds, the most overrated indie platformer ever.
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FrankiesInc2 posted...
Ugh, this thread is full of ignorant morons. Next step : "this planet is full of ignorant morons". Can you be less specific?
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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When the discount hits I'll likely pick it up, I was already on the fence to begin with but my backlog is deep enough that I'm not in a hurry to buy anything that doesn't completely wow me or, like Another World this week, go on sale. It doesn't look like an amazing game by any stretch, but at the same time it doesn't look bad or broken or anything like that. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but it's just kind of there, and unlike Mutant Mudds it doesn't have the luxury of standing out because the 3DS library is so much more filled out now. However...
I have to agree with everyone on the name. Chicken Wiggle is bad. All it does is remind me of Flappy Bird, or Crossy Road, or any of the hundreds of other mobile games with similar names, none of them being something I want to play let alone spend money on.
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pikachupwnage posted...
Iokua posted...My favorite part of this is how he apparently thought it was Nintendo's job to promote his game. Nintendo is not your marketing department, buddy, if they don't view your game as worth promoting then they are not to blame for your s***ty looking game. Chicken Wiggle doesn't look particularly fun and the name sounds like app store shovelware. It's not the audience moving on, it's not Nintendo deciding not to promote the game, it's you giving it a crappy name, a boring look and you failing to market it. What a colossally arrogant putz. None of that explains why he feels entitled to Nintendo promoting his game, or why he felt no need to properly market his game, or why he blames the market for his failings. He created a game that either no one wanted to play, or not enough people who would play it knew about it. There's nothing toxic about recognizing the fact that this guy is an entitled putz. If there's anyone toxic here it's you, as you seem content on enabling poor behavior.
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pikachupwnage posted...
Iokua posted...My favorite part of this is how he apparently thought it was Nintendo's job to promote his game. Nintendo is not your marketing department, buddy, if they don't view your game as worth promoting then they are not to blame for your s***ty looking game. Chicken Wiggle doesn't look particularly fun and the name sounds like app store shovelware. It's not the audience moving on, it's not Nintendo deciding not to promote the game, it's you giving it a crappy name, a boring look and you failing to market it. What a colossally arrogant putz. You lost all credibility by throwing around the term "toxic." I do agree Nintendo should at least present new games for a bit in some way, though.
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ibrokethedam posted...
Darkstorm16 posted...How dare he ask money for a game he made! After all don't we work for free?
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Eh. Part of being a game developer is getting a feel for the market. I actually bought his game, and I feel like it's better than mutant mudds.
I'm just so busy right now and I don't have much time to game, but don't they say "never give up"?? I feel like he's saying woe is me I give up. No!!! I understand sales are low. And I understand what he's saying about the Switch and Metroid. And I played the first 5 chapters of the first level. I don't know what to say man. I just don't know. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/09/jools_watsham_highlights_low_chicken_wiggle_sales_confirms_upcoming_discount |
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Darkstorm16 posted...
How dare he ask money for a game he made! After all don't we work for free? Allow me to play the role of Jools for a second: Yeah pay me way more than everyone else is asking for but you won't get to see my work until I'm paid and I have been recently producing awful work but I swear this time is different and you can even create things within my work. I know it looks terrible and has a stupid name but I swear it plays good, there's a chicken and a worm in it. C'mon, pay me. No? Well it's because you've obviously moved on to Switch and I'm not being promoted properly. Back to reality: Marketing 101, if you have an IP with characters: NAME THEM. ToeJam and Earl, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Mario and Luigi, ever heard of them?
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Been reading and watching his blogs/vlogs for years, keeping track of his work, and honestly -- though I think the guy is very talented, creative, and just an all-around nice guy -- I think he consistently makes the mistake of becoming too personal with his own work. He always over-values it. It's easy to do, no doubt. You have a labor of love, you put all of your time and energy into it, it's easy to...well, love it. Unfortunately, when you can't separate yourself from it financially, you make all sorts of bad decisions about it in that regard. Guy needs to set more realistic expectations (as in low) for his work. Hope for everything and expect nothing. Kind of applies to most things in life.
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GeekyDad posted...
Been reading and watching his blogs/vlogs for years, keeping track of his work, and honestly -- though I think the guy is very talented, creative, and just an all-around nice guy -- I think he consistently makes the mistake of becoming too personal with his own work. He always over-values it. It's easy to do, no doubt. You have a labor of love, you put all of your time and energy into it, it's easy to...well, love it. Unfortunately, when you can't separate yourself from it financially, you make all sorts of bad decisions about it in that regard. Guy needs to set more realistic expectations (as in low) for his work. Hope for everything and expect nothing. Kind of applies to most things in life. See. This is how you bring up the failings of a man who hasn't wronged you. If you take TCs approach "Actually, no, f*** you This is what happens when you get greedy like a little s***" Good luck getting someone to listen to what you have to say.
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pikachupwnage posted...
3DS board is one of the few somewhat active boards that is semi pleasant. Can we keep it that way please? This entire website is the biggest cesspool of toxicity this side of 4chan. It's always been s***, it will always be s***.
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Not surprised. The game looks cute, but it's WAY overpriced, and the name makes it sound like some garbage mobile title.
Also, the Switch just came out, so everything but higher profile games on the 3DS are going to be ignored in favor of the newer system. According to his blog post, most of the sales came from NA, even though it didn't get a front page slot like it did in Europe. So lack of visibility probably wasn't its biggest issue. If he ports it to the Switch, drops the price to $7.99, and changes the title to something less cringy, I'll probably snag it.
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pikachupwnage posted...
GeekyDad posted...Been reading and watching his blogs/vlogs for years, keeping track of his work, and honestly -- though I think the guy is very talented, creative, and just an all-around nice guy -- I think he consistently makes the mistake of becoming too personal with his own work. He always over-values it. It's easy to do, no doubt. You have a labor of love, you put all of your time and energy into it, it's easy to...well, love it. Unfortunately, when you can't separate yourself from it financially, you make all sorts of bad decisions about it in that regard. Guy needs to set more realistic expectations (as in low) for his work. Hope for everything and expect nothing. Kind of applies to most things in life. This. Why are people here getting so angry for no good reason? Its stupid.
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Salocool posted...
That's 15 bucks? Holy s***, that's the price our team was thinking of asking for a fully-fledged action-platformer with 16 bits aesthetic, midbosses/bosses, story elements, BGMs at the quality level of Secret of Mana (it takes a s*** ton of time to rework a good track into a majestic track...) and upgradable subweapons. Yeah you see this in Steam all the time too, they charge too much and wonder why nothing sells. I always made my own stuff with the aim of a much lower price point as it would hopefully reach more people. Weird as it sounds I would much rather have 10 people playing and make $20 than 5 people playing and make $50. Edit: Oh it's the Xeodrifter dude? Tell him to turn those tears into energy to make more than one boss monster reused ten times next time haha.
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CircleOfManias posted...
pikachupwnage posted...3DS board is one of the few somewhat active boards that is semi pleasant. Can we keep it that way please? Is that why you've not only visited, but POSTED on the "s*** boards" at least once a day for 7 years of your life? Edit: According to my phone's calculator, posting at least once a day, 365 days a year, for 7 years will get you 2,555 karma. Which still isn't enough to get where you're at. Now that I look, you've got some in other ways I'm sure, so I doubt it's been every day straight for 7 years, but would you still not consider yourself a part of our cesspool at that point? Idiots are everywhere. It's not the websites fault.
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scvmlord posted...
CircleOfManias posted...pikachupwnage posted...3DS board is one of the few somewhat active boards that is semi pleasant. Can we keep it that way please? They say miisery loves company.
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I bought this game the first day it came out and I had it on my calendar for a few weeks before that. gonintendo.com is my source for news and they had several stories about it before it came out. I can tell you that it's really good and worth the asking price. The developer seems like a really nice guy and I appreciate his support to the 3ds platform that he's given.
Thank you Jools for the great game. To be fair, I'll point out a few things. I do think the naming of the game hurt it foremost and I would have advertised it more by saying that it was made by the same developer as Mutant Mudds (I assume that has been his biggest success, correct me if I'm wrong). Also (I could be wrong here too) but it seems as though his games have limited A.I for the enemies. It seems as though the enemies always move in patterns and don't have much A.I to how they move. Pick up this game and enjoy it guys. It's similar to Mutant Mudds (with a fun editor!), has excellent use of stereoscopic 3D, and the user levels so far have been fun as well. |
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I'm sorry, but I wouldn't play a game with a title that stupid even if it had been given to me for free.
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pikachupwnage posted...
They say miisery loves company. Did you think I was happy getting to 5000 karma? Wading through all the junk posts... |
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pikachupwnage posted...
There is a "New Releases" section in the eShop. But you knew that, right?
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Atooi recently announced the new price tag and justified it by saying the upcoming Nintendo 3DS eShop title has more than 40 levels, a level editor, online sharing features and support for stereoscopic 3D.
3D mode should be standard on 3DS games (I don't usually play 3DS games in 3D but 3D should be standard).
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Skull_pro posted...
pikachupwnage posted... Yes. You still get more overall visibility being on the front shelf.
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pikachupwnage posted...
Skull_pro posted...pikachupwnage posted... Pretty much. I don't personally check on "New Releases" because I generally know what I'm going to buy, but if a game is on the front that looks interesting, I might take a look at it.
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