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Sunday, June 28, 2026

CBWL 066

The Jim Cornette Experience

June 22, 2026

Jim Cornette: (already fired up) Brian, I have been in this business for over forty years. I have seen some of the dumbest, most ridiculous, most dangerous things you could possibly imagine. But what I saw last night from these goddamn idiots in CBWL… I don’t even have the words for it yet. And believe me, I’m gonna find ‘em.


Brian Last: Well Jim, before we even get into the show itself, let’s just acknowledge what happened. Two people are dead. There was an actual riot inside the building. Police had to use tear gas. And this all happened during a wrestling show.


Jim Cornette: (loud) During a wrestling show! Not after! Not outside in the parking lot after everybody went home! During the goddamn show! These people are running around doing angles where they’re throwing women down the stairs and ripping old men off life support, and then they act surprised when the crowd loses their fucking minds and people get killed! What the hell did they think was gonna happen?!


Brian Last: It’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen come out of a wrestling event, and that’s saying something.


Jim Cornette: Brian, I’ve seen riots. I’ve seen fans throw chairs. I’ve seen buildings damn near come apart. But I have never seen a wrestling company do an angle so stupid, so reckless, and so goddamn dangerous that it directly caused two people to die inside the building while the show was still going on. This ain’t wrestling anymore. This is a goddamn public safety hazard with wrestling tights on.


Brian Last: Well, we’re gonna go through this thing segment by segment, because there’s a lot to unpack here. From what I understand, it was another no-ring show—


Jim Cornette: (interrupting) Of course it was! Why would they have a ring when they can just throw people on some plywood and call it a show?! These idiots couldn’t book a ring if their lives depended on it!


Brian Last: (chuckling) Alright, well let’s start from the top then. We’ll go through it piece by piece and see just how bad this thing really was.


Jim Cornette: Oh, it’s bad, Brian. It’s real bad. And I’m just getting warmed up.

Brian Last: Alright, let’s start from the top. The show opens with Mariska Hargitay coming out on the plywood — because of course there’s no ring again — and she cuts a promo addressing the fans’ frustration about not having a ring for the second week in a row. Then she shifts into talking about Sterling Marlin and how he’s still recovering from his injuries. She teases some big announcement about him at the PPV on Sunday.

Jim Cornette: (already annoyed) Oh for Christ’s sake. First of all, these idiots still don’t have a ring. They’re out here doing a wrestling show on some goddamn plywood they threw on the floor like they’re setting up for a backyard barbecue. And Mariska comes out in a purple dress like she’s going to a cocktail party instead of running a wrestling show. What the hell is this?

Brian Last: She does address the no-ring situation right away. She tells the crowd she knows they’re frustrated.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Well no shit they’re frustrated, Brian! They paid to see a wrestling show and these morons keep telling them “sorry, the ring’s in the shop” like it’s a goddamn car! This is the second week in a row! At what point do you just admit you don’t have a ring and stop insulting everybody’s intelligence?

Brian Last: Then she moves into talking about Sterling Marlin. She says he’s still recovering, he’s been through surgeries, he’s in bad shape, but he still wants to be there. And she teases that there’s gonna be a major announcement at the PPV about his future with the company.

Jim Cornette: Oh, here we go with the soap opera bullshit. She’s out there acting like this is some dramatic Lifetime movie instead of a wrestling show. “Sterling’s been through so much… he’s a hardworking man…” Give me a break! This is the same company that had a guy get thrown down the stairs and another one ripped off life support later in the night, and now they’re out here pretending they give a damn about this poor bastard’s health? It’s all a work until it’s not!

Brian Last: The commentary team was interesting here too. Freddie was trying to be professional, Chelsea Handler was being her usual bitchy self, and Sofia Vergara was doing her slow, broken English thing.

Jim Cornette: (disgusted) Sofia Vergara sounds like she’s reading the script off a teleprompter while she’s half-asleep. And Chelsea Handler — Jesus Christ, that woman’s got the personality of a chainsaw. Every time she opens her mouth I want to reach through the screen and slap her. This ain’t wrestling commentary, this is three people who clearly don’t give a damn about what they’re watching.

Brian Last: Overall, it was a pretty serious opening from Mariska. She tried to make it feel important.

Jim Cornette: It felt like a bunch of bullshit, Brian. These people have spent weeks doing the most disgusting, violent, over-the-top angles you can imagine, and now they want to come out here and act all serious and respectful about some poor bastard who’s laid up in a hospital bed? Give me a fucking break. This company couldn’t be sincere if their lives depended on it.

Brian Last: Up next we go backstage where Wendy Williams is interviewing Pam Beesly. And Jim… this was rough.

Jim Cornette: (already laughing sarcastically) Oh, I can’t wait to hear this. Wendy Williams doing a wrestling interview. This oughta be good.

Brian Last: Wendy comes out looking completely lost. She doesn’t seem to know who Pam is or why she’s there. She keeps calling her “the girl from the paper company” and asking her what she’s doing in wrestling. It’s very awkward. Pam tries to explain that she’s here because she wants to stand up for herself and prove she’s not soft, but Wendy just keeps talking over her and going off on tangents.

Jim Cornette: (loud) This is a goddamn embarrassment! What the hell is Wendy Williams even doing there?! She looks like somebody’s drunk aunt who wandered into the wrong room at a family reunion! She’s asking Pam if she’s nervous, telling her “these girls are crazy,” and then ends the interview by saying “just don’t die out there.” What kind of professional wrestling interview is that?!

Brian Last: It was really bad. Wendy seemed completely checked out. She wasn’t even listening to Pam’s answers half the time.

Jim Cornette: Of course she wasn’t listening! She doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing! This woman used to have her own talk show and now she’s out here doing wrestling interviews like she’s reading off cue cards she can’t even see! And poor Pam Beesly is standing there trying to look serious and tough while this idiot is asking her if she’s gonna beat people up or not. It’s insulting to everybody involved!

Brian Last: The commentary team didn’t help either. Chelsea Handler was roasting Pam the whole time, saying she looked like she should be answering phones instead of wrestling. Sofia Vergara was doing her usual slow, horny-sounding commentary.

Jim Cornette: (disgusted) Chelsea Handler is just a miserable bitch who hates everything and everybody. And Sofia Vergara sounds like she’s halfway through a bottle of wine and trying to remember her lines. Between the three of them, they sounded like they were watching a show they didn’t even want to be at.

Brian Last: Overall, it was just a really bad, unprofessional backstage segment. It didn’t make Pam look good, and it made Wendy look completely out of place.

Jim Cornette: It made the whole company look like a joke, Brian! You’ve got a confused old talk show host doing interviews, a bunch of celebrities who don’t know what they’re doing, and a commentary team that sounds like they’re being held hostage. This ain’t wrestling. This is community theater with worse production values!

Brian Last: Alright, well let’s keep moving. Up next is Mila Kunis attacking Pam Beesly on the plywood…

Brian Last: Up next, we get Mila Kunis jumping Pam Beesly from the crowd and beating her up on the plywood. Then Mila grabs a microphone and cuts a long, vicious promo about how she slept with Jim from The Office and how Pam strung him along for years. It got pretty personal and nasty.

Jim Cornette: (already annoyed) Oh here we go with this bullshit. So now we’re doing The Office fanfiction in the middle of a wrestling match? These people have completely lost the plot.

Brian Last: Mila dominates Pam physically first, then she starts talking about how she fucked Jim, how she told Roy about the kiss, how Pam was indecisive and using Jim, all that stuff. She really lays into her character-wise. Then she superkicks her and pins her while she’s out cold.

Jim Cornette: (loud) This is the kind of shit that makes me sick about modern wrestling! These idiots think that if they just take some TV show from twenty years ago and turn it into a personal shoot promo, that makes it “edgy” and “real.” It’s not real, it’s fucking stupid! Why are we bringing up Jim and Pam and Roy in a wrestling ring?! This ain’t wrestling, this is some nerd writing fanfiction and calling it a match!

Brian Last: It was really mean-spirited. She didn’t just say it once — she kept going and going, digging into Pam’s character and making her look pathetic.

Jim Cornette: And that’s the problem! These people think the more personal and nasty they get, the better the angle is. Newsflash — it ain’t! It’s lazy! Instead of building up a wrestling story, they just take some old sitcom drama and turn it into a personal attack. And then they have Mila superkick her while she’s already knocked out like she’s putting the finishing touches on a goddamn execution. It’s disgusting.

Brian Last: The commentary didn’t help. Freddie sounded uncomfortable, Chelsea Handler was laughing and encouraging it, and Sofia Vergara was doing her usual slow, dumb commentary.

Jim Cornette: (mocking) “Ay, Mila is being so mean…” Jesus Christ, Sofia sounds like she’s reading her lines off a menu. And Chelsea Handler — that miserable bitch is probably the only one who actually enjoyed this garbage because it gave her something to be snarky about. The whole thing was a mess.

Brian Last: It was definitely one of the more memorable segments of the night, for better or worse.

Jim Cornette: It was memorable because it was so goddamn stupid! These people have no idea how to tell a wrestling story anymore. They think if they just make everything as mean and personal as possible, that makes it good. It doesn’t. It makes it look like a bunch of marks who watched too much reality TV and thought that’s what wrestling should be.

Brian Last: Jim, before we move on… have you ever actually watched The Office?

Jim Cornette: (scoffs) Have I ever watched The Office? Brian, I’ve seen enough of that show to know it’s a bunch of goddamn idiots standing around an office making faces at the camera like they’re in some kind of fucking documentary. I don’t need to watch the whole series to know it’s not something that belongs in a wrestling ring!

Brian Last: So you’re familiar with the characters then? Jim, Pam, Roy…

Jim Cornette: (loud) Of course I know who they are! Everybody and their goddamn mother knows who Jim and Pam are! That’s the problem! These wrestling bookers are so lazy that instead of coming up with their own storylines, they just steal characters from some old TV show and turn it into a personal shoot promo. “Oh, Mila fucked Jim and Pam was stringing him along!” Who gives a shit?! This ain’t The Office, this is supposed to be a wrestling show!

Brian Last: So you don’t think it worked as an angle?

Jim Cornette: It worked as an angle if your goal is to make wrestling look even more ridiculous than it already does! These people think that if they just take some pop culture reference and make it nasty and personal, that makes it good wrestling. It doesn’t! It makes it look like a bunch of marks who don’t know how to tell a real story, so they just rip off something everybody’s already seen on Netflix!

Brian Last: Fair enough. You’re clearly not a fan.

Jim Cornette: I’m not a fan of turning wrestling into bad fanfiction, no. If I wanted to watch The Office, I’d watch The Office. I don’t need to see it butchered in a wrestling ring by a bunch of people who think being mean is the same thing as being good at this business.

Brian Last: Alright, well let’s move on before you have a stroke. Up next is Kristen Bell vs Boxxy…

Brian Last: Up next is Kristen Bell taking on Boxxy, with Anya Taylor-Joy in Boxxy’s corner. Kristen stalls a lot, talks some shit, and then the match turns into a sloppy, ugly brawl on the plywood. The big story here is that Anya eventually just walks off and abandons Boxxy while the crowd boos her out of the building. Kristen wins with a fluke pin.

Jim Cornette: (already disgusted) Oh wonderful. Another sloppy match on some goddamn plywood. These people couldn’t have a decent wrestling match if their lives depended on it. And now we’ve got Anya Taylor-Joy just standing there with her arms crossed like she doesn’t even want to be there, and then she just walks off? What the hell was that supposed to be?

Brian Last: It was pretty clear she didn’t want to be involved. Boxxy kept calling for her help during the match and Anya just ignored her until she finally left. The crowd turned on her hard.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Of course they turned on her! She looked like she was being forced to be there at gunpoint! These people keep doing these stupid, half-assed “partner abandons their teammate” stories like it’s some kind of revolutionary idea. It’s not! It’s lazy booking! And the match itself was a goddamn mess. Two untrained women swinging and grabbing on some plywood like they’re in a bar fight. This ain’t wrestling!

Brian Last: Kristen did look a little better than Boxxy, at least timing-wise. She won with a fluke after Boxxy almost had her in trouble.

Jim Cornette: A fluke win in a fluke match on some fluke plywood. Who gives a shit? The whole thing was pointless. The only thing that came out of it was that Boxxy looked even more pathetic than before, and Anya looked like she couldn’t care less. And Kristen Bell winning a sloppy match with a lucky pin isn’t exactly building her up as some kind of killer.

Brian Last: The commentary was pretty standard at this point. Freddie was trying to call it straight, Chelsea was being mean, and Sofia was doing her usual thing.

Jim Cornette: (mocking Sofia’s accent) “Ay, Boxxy is calling for help but Anya is not helping…” Jesus Christ, every time that woman opens her mouth I lose brain cells. And Chelsea Handler sounds like she’s actively trying to make everyone watching feel worse about themselves. This commentary team is a disaster.

Brian Last: Overall it was another rough, ugly match that didn’t do much except make Boxxy look even more alone and pathetic.

Jim Cornette: It was a waste of time, Brian. Another sloppy brawl on plywood with a lazy “partner walks out” angle that we’ve seen a thousand times before. These people have no idea what they’re doing.

Brian Last: Alright, next we go to this hospital segment with Nicki Minaj and Sterling Marlin. Nicki’s sitting with him while he’s unconscious in the bed, gives him this emotional speech, and then starts grinding on him in a lapdance. Meanwhile, Emma Watson is standing in the doorway watching with this creepy smile on her face. It was… strange.

Jim Cornette: (disgusted) Strange? Brian, that was fucking weird. What the hell was that? You’ve got this woman giving a lapdance to a guy who’s laid up in a hospital bed, tubes coming out of him, and she’s talking about “real men” and “fighting through adversity” while she’s dry-humping him? And then they cut to Emma Watson just standing there in the shadows like some kind of goddamn horror movie villain? What is this shit?

Brian Last: It was definitely unsettling. Especially the way Emma was just watching with that smile. It felt like they were trying to make her look unhinged already.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Unhinged? She looked like she was about to pull out a knife and start carving her name into the wall! This ain’t wrestling, this is some weird, creepy, low-budget soap opera bullshit. And what was Nicki even doing there? Giving this big emotional speech while she’s bouncing on a unconscious man’s lap? These people have completely lost their minds.

Brian Last: It did feel like they were trying to set something up with Emma, though. That shot of her just standing there smiling while all this was going on was pretty eerie.

Jim Cornette: It was creepy as hell, I’ll give ‘em that. But it was also just stupid. Why are we doing hospital lapdance segments in a wrestling show? And why is Emma Watson lurking around like she’s about to go full psycho? These angles are getting so convoluted and weird that I can’t even keep track of what the hell is supposed to be happening anymore.

Brian Last: It was definitely one of the stranger parts of the night.

Jim Cornette: It was one of the dumber parts of the night, that’s what it was. These people think if they just keep throwing weird, dark, uncomfortable shit at the wall, eventually something’s gonna stick. Well, nothing’s sticking, Brian. It’s all just sliding off because it’s so goddamn stupid.

Brian Last: We come back from that weird hospital segment and go to Jennette McCurdy vs Florence Pugh on the dirty plywood. It was another ugly, stiff brawl. The ref even had to leave at one point because she was getting too many splinters in her hands. Florence wins with a roll-up after Jennette slips. Then after the match, Wendy comes out to interview Florence and immediately starts talking about how she’s been eating cheese and can’t shit. Mariska storms out, calls Florence out for not taking care of herself, and books her in an “Eat My Shit” match against Kristen Bell at the PPV. Wendy keeps piling on until she has some kind of breakdown on camera and has to be pulled off.

Jim Cornette: (already pissed) Jesus Christ, Brian. Another match on that filthy plywood where these two women are just beating the hell out of each other with no technique. And the ref has to leave because she’s getting splinters in her hands? What the fuck kind of wrestling show is this? They can’t even provide a goddamn ring, so now the referee is getting injured too?

Brian Last: It was rough. And then the post-match stuff got even weirder. Wendy starts going in on Florence about being constipated, Mariska comes out and punishes her by booking this “Eat My Shit” match, and then Wendy completely loses it on camera.

Jim Cornette: (loud) This is the kind of shit that makes me embarrassed to even be associated with this business! You’ve got one woman calling another woman out for not being able to take a shit, and then they book a match where the loser has to eat shit on pay-per-view. What the hell happened to wrestling? When did it become this disgusting, low-class garbage? And then Wendy Williams has a full-on mental breakdown on camera while all this is happening? These people are out of their goddamn minds!

Brian Last: It was uncomfortable to watch. Florence looked completely stunned, and Wendy went from laughing to choking to looking completely lost. They had to drag her off.

Jim Cornette: Good! Drag her off and drag this whole damn segment off with her. This isn’t edgy, this isn’t entertaining, this is just nasty for the sake of being nasty. These idiots think that if they keep pushing how gross and humiliating they can make everything, people will keep watching. Well I’ve got news for ‘em — this shit ain’t drawing anybody but sickos and morons.

Brian Last: It definitely felt like they were trying to double down on the humiliation stuff after last week.

Jim Cornette: They’re not doubling down, they’re digging their own grave. Every week they find a new way to make wrestling look even more ridiculous and disgusting than the week before. And the sad part is, they probably think they’re being creative.

Brian Last: Jim, I gotta ask you about this “Eat My Shit” match they announced. Mariska comes out and books Florence Pugh against Kristen Bell in a match where… apparently the loser has to eat shit. Have you ever heard of a stipulation like that before?

Jim Cornette: (loud, immediately disgusted) Have I ever heard of a fucking “Eat My Shit” match before? Brian, in all my years in this business — and I’ve seen some truly stupid, disgusting, low-class shit — I have never heard of a match where the loser has to eat actual shit. Never. Not in the territories, not in Japan, not in Mexico, nowhere. These goddamn idiots have officially run out of ideas.

Brian Last: So this is a new low, even for you?

Jim Cornette: It’s not even a low, it’s rock bottom with a shovel. They’re not even trying to hide how stupid this is. They built up this whole thing about Florence eating cheese and being constipated, and now they’re turning it into a match where she might have to eat shit on pay-per-view. What the fuck is wrong with these people? This ain’t wrestling. This is some sick fetish shit they’re trying to pass off as entertainment.

Brian Last: It felt like they were really leaning into the humiliation. Mariska came out and made it personal, and Wendy was out there laughing about it too.

Jim Cornette: (angry) Of course they made it personal! That’s all these modern-day marks know how to do. They can’t tell a wrestling story, so they just make everything as gross and humiliating as possible and call it “edgy.” Newsflash — it’s not edgy. It’s fucking embarrassing. And the fact that they’re doing it with Florence Pugh, who’s still relatively new, makes it even worse. They’re using her as a punching bag for this disgusting garbage.

Brian Last: You think this kind of thing can actually draw?

Jim Cornette: It might draw some sick bastards who get off on this kind of shit, but it ain’t drawing normal wrestling fans. This is the kind of stuff that makes people change the channel and never come back. And the worst part is, these idiots probably think they’re being creative. They’re not. They’re just proving how far this business has fallen.

Brian Last: Yeah, it was pretty rough.

Jim Cornette: Rough? Brian, it was fucking revolting. And we’re supposed to believe this is going to be on pay-per-view? Jesus Christ, what a joke.

Brian Last: After that whole mess with Florence and the “Eat My Shit” match, we go backstage where Mariska is talking to Taylor Swift. Mariska tells her that Wendy’s situation is gonna change at the PPV, but makes it clear that’s not the big announcement she teased earlier. She also mentions they’re doing an Escape the Stall rematch with the iCarlys against Boxxy and Anya. Then Taylor comes out to the ring.

Jim Cornette: (already annoyed) Oh good, more backstage soap opera bullshit. These people can’t go five minutes without having two characters stand around and explain the plot to each other like we’re watching a goddamn CW show.

Brian Last: Taylor comes out and cuts a promo. She thanks the crowd, then gets serious and talks about Sterling Marlin again. She says what happened to him wasn’t right and thanks Nicki Minaj for being there for him. Then she says, “I’ll take over for you later.” The crowd pops at that. After that, she randomly asks if everybody wants to see her shake her ass to the Cha-Cha Slide and starts dancing in the ring.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Are you fucking kidding me?! So we go from one woman being told she’s gonna have to eat shit on pay-per-view, straight into Taylor Swift giving a heartfelt speech about Sterling Marlin, and then she just starts dancing like she’s at a goddamn concert?! What the hell is wrong with these people?! Pick a tone and stick with it!

Brian Last: Yeah, it was jarring. She went from being serious about Sterling to suddenly wanting to do the Cha-Cha Slide. And there was this weird energy in the crowd because she teased that Sterling might actually be there.

Jim Cornette: Of course there was weird energy! These idiots have spent the whole night doing dark, disgusting, over-the-top angles, and then they expect the crowd to just flip a switch and start clapping along while Taylor shakes her ass? It doesn’t work like that! And what the hell was that line about “I’ll take over for you later”? These people can’t even do a simple promo without turning it into some weird, convoluted tease.

Brian Last: The crowd did pop when she started dancing though. They seemed into it.

Jim Cornette: (scoffs) Of course they popped. After everything else they’d sat through tonight, they were probably just happy to see something that didn’t involve someone getting thrown down the stairs or being told they’re gonna eat shit. But that doesn’t make it good. It just makes it the least offensive thing on the show so far.

Brian Last: Right after she starts dancing, they put up a graphic that says “UP NEXT: Taylor Swift vs Miranda Cosgrove.” Then it cuts to black and goes backstage…

Jim Cornette: (already dreading it) Oh boy. Here we go. I can already tell this is about to get even dumber.

Brian Last: So Taylor’s dancing to the Cha-Cha Slide, the crowd is into it, and then they put up that graphic for Taylor vs Miranda Cosgrove. Right as she’s hitting the big finish of the dance, the show cuts to black and goes backstage. Emma Watson storms in and attacks Nicki Minaj out of nowhere. She chokes her with some straps, goes on this long rant, then rips all the tubes and wires off Sterling and dumps him on the floor. After that, she straps Nicki to a gurney and throws her down the stairs. It looked really rough — the gurney went down more flights than it was probably supposed to.

Jim Cornette: (already heated) Are you fucking kidding me?! So we go from Taylor Swift dancing and having fun with the crowd, straight into Emma Watson trying to murder two people on live television?! What the hell is wrong with these goddamn idiots?! This isn’t edgy, this isn’t shocking, this is just stupid and dangerous!

Brian Last: It got really dark, really fast. Emma chokes Nicki, rips Sterling off life support, dumps him on the floor, and then throws Nicki down the stairs on that gurney. And it looked like it went wrong — it bounced down an extra flight.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Of course it looked like it went wrong! Because these morons have no idea what they’re doing! You’ve got a woman attacking an unconscious man and then throwing another woman down concrete stairs like she’s disposing of a body, and they expect us to just sit there and treat this like normal wrestling entertainment? This is the kind of shit that makes people turn the channel and never come back!

Brian Last: The commentary team completely lost it during this. Freddie sounded like he was having a panic attack, Chelsea was screaming, and even Sofia sounded upset. You could hear Cowboy Watts in the background telling them to sell it like murder.

Jim Cornette: (disgusted) Because that’s exactly what it looked like — a goddamn murder attempt! And these idiots are sitting there encouraging the announcers to sell it like it’s real? What the fuck is wrong with these people?! This isn’t wrestling anymore. This is some sick, twisted bullshit that has no business being on television.

Brian Last: The crowd reacted really strongly too. People were trying to get backstage. It turned into chaos.

Jim Cornette: Of course it turned into chaos! These dumb bastards spent weeks doing the most violent, over-the-top, disgusting angles they could think of, and then they act surprised when the crowd actually believes it and tries to do something about it. This is what happens when you push things too far and blur the line between work and shoot until nobody knows what the hell is real anymore.

Brian Last: Yeah… this one got out of hand fast.

Jim Cornette: It got out of hand because these people have no self-control and no common sense. They keep thinking “bigger, darker, more extreme” is the answer to everything, and now they’ve got a goddamn riot on their hands. This is a disaster, Brian. A complete and total disaster.

Brian Last: We come back from commercial and go backstage where Taylor Swift, Wendy Williams, and Mariska are with Sterling, who’s now on the floor after Emma dumped him. Taylor’s crying, Wendy looks confused and upset, and Mariska tells Taylor that if she can find Emma before she leaves the building, she has full permission to do whatever she needs to do — no repercussions. Taylor takes off running.

Jim Cornette: (already pissed) Oh, so now we’re just openly encouraging people to go commit violence backstage? This is a wrestling show, not The Purge! What the fuck is wrong with these people?!

Brian Last: Taylor runs out to the parking garage looking for Emma but misses her. Instead, she finds Miranda Cosgrove standing by Sterling’s vandalized truck. It looks like Miranda was helping Emma get away. Taylor attacks her and beats the shit out of her — slamming her head into the concrete — then leaves her laid out next to the truck and runs back inside.

Jim Cornette: (loud) So now we’ve got Taylor Swift beating the hell out of Miranda Cosgrove in a parking garage like it’s some kind of street fight? These people have completely lost the plot! This isn’t wrestling, this is some low-budget crime drama bullshit!

Brian Last: And while all this is happening, the arena is in complete chaos. Fire alarms are going off, fans are rushing the barricades, security is struggling to keep control. The show ends on a shot of Sterling’s destroyed truck with Miranda unconscious next to it, while everything is falling apart in the background.

Jim Cornette: (disgusted) This is a goddamn disaster. These idiots spent the entire night doing the most violent, over-the-top, dangerous angles they could think of, and then they act surprised when the building turns into a riot zone. Two people are dead because of this shit! And instead of pulling the plug or trying to calm things down, they just kept going until the whole thing exploded in their faces.

Brian Last: It really did feel like it got completely out of control by the end.

Jim Cornette: Of course it got out of control! These people have been pushing the line further and further every single week, and now they’ve crossed it. You can’t do angles where people are getting thrown down stairs and ripped off life support and then expect the crowd to just sit there and clap like it’s normal. This is what happens when you treat wrestling like it’s some kind of sick reality show instead of a goddamn athletic contest.

Brian Last: Yeah… this one’s going to be talked about for a long time, and not in a good way.

Jim Cornette: It should be talked about as one of the biggest fuck-ups in wrestling history. These goddamn idiots have no idea what they’re doing, and now people are dead because of it. This ain’t wrestling anymore. This is a public safety hazard with wrestling tights on.

Brian Last: Jim, going back real quick — when Taylor was out there during her promo, she said she was gonna “take over for Nicki later” when it came to Sterling. What do you think she meant by that?

Jim Cornette: (scoffs) Well, she’s gonna have to now, ain’t she?! After what Emma did to Nicki, somebody’s gonna have to step up, because Nicki’s probably in a goddamn hospital bed herself after getting thrown down those stairs!

Brian Last: Yeah, that line aged like milk in about twenty minutes.

Jim Cornette: These people write this shit and don’t even think two steps ahead. Taylor says she’s gonna take over for Nicki with Sterling, then twenty minutes later Emma damn near kills both of them. Now Taylor’s probably gotta play nurse while this poor bastard is laid up half-dead. It’s all so goddamn convoluted.

Brian Last: Speaking of Sterling… how bad do you think he actually is? Because on the show they made it seem like he was hurt, but after everything we saw — especially him getting dumped on the floor — I don’t know how much of that was a work.

Jim Cornette: Brian, that man is old as hell and he’s already been through the wringer. Even before whatever “car crash” they’re blaming this on, he’s not exactly in his prime. Then you’ve got Emma ripping him off life support and throwing him on the goddamn floor like a sack of potatoes? Whether that was a work or a shoot, that shit ain’t good for a man his age with the injuries he’s supposed to already have.

Brian Last: My sources are telling me it’s not a work. They’re saying Sterling is legitimately comatose right now. Like, this isn’t just storyline injuries. They’re saying what happened in that hospital extraction was real — Butterbean went in there swinging on people, Tony took a nurse hostage, and they basically kidnapped Sterling out of there. And now he’s in really bad shape.

Jim Cornette: (loud) Of course he’s in bad shape! These idiots have been dragging this poor bastard around like a prop for weeks while he’s half-dead, and now we’re finding out they actually pulled him out of a hospital against medical advice and roughed up half the staff while they were at it? This ain’t wrestling, this is criminal activity with wrestling camera angles!

Brian Last: It reminds me of some of those old territory riots back in the day, where things would get so heated that fans would actually try to get to the heels. But even then, I don’t remember anything this bad.

Jim Cornette: This is worse than territory riots, Brian. Back then, at least the violence was usually contained to the ring or right after the show. These idiots are doing angles so reckless that people are dying during the show. And for what? So Emma Watson can look like a psycho? So they can do some weird political rant in the middle of it? This whole thing has gone completely off the rails.

Brian Last: Between the riot, the deaths, Sterling’s condition, and everything else… this company might be in real trouble.

Jim Cornette: They should be in trouble. They’ve been playing with fire for weeks and now the whole building is burning down around them. Two people are dead, the crowd turned into a mob, and they’ve got a man who’s supposedly in a coma because they couldn’t stop themselves from doing the most dangerous, stupid shit they could think of. This ain’t just bad booking anymore. This is a goddamn liability.

Brian Last: Yeah… this one’s bad.

Jim Cornette: It’s worse than bad. It’s embarrassing. And I don’t know how they come back from it.

Brian Last: Jim, going back to what happened in Charlotte… if something like this had gone down back in the Mid-South days — a full-on riot with deaths in the crowd during the show — what would the response have been the next week? How would the promotion have handled it?

Jim Cornette: (immediately) They would’ve come down on that shit like a hammer. Especially if Bill Watts was running the show. Watts didn’t play around with that kind of mess. If something like that happened in Mid-South, the next show would’ve been locked down with extra police, extra security, and Watts himself would’ve come out at the start of the night and addressed it directly. He would’ve made it very clear that that kind of shit wasn’t gonna fly in his territory.

Brian Last: So they wouldn’t have just ignored it or tried to lean into it?

Jim Cornette: Hell no. Watts ran a tight ship. If fans got out of control to the point where people got hurt or killed, he would’ve made an example out of it. He wouldn’t have just let it slide and kept doing the same stupid angles the next week. And the building and the cops would’ve been all over it too. Back then, if something that serious happened at one of your shows, you had to answer for it.

Brian Last: It’s wild to think about, because the same Cowboy Watts who ran Mid-South like that… is the same guy running CBWL right now.

Jim Cornette: (loud, almost laughing in disbelief) That’s the craziest part! This is the same son of a bitch who used to run one of the toughest, most no-nonsense territories in the country, and now he’s in charge of this goddamn shitshow?! What happened to him?! Back in the day, if one of his boys did something this stupid and reckless, Watts would’ve kicked their ass himself. Now he’s sitting on top of a company that’s doing angles so dangerous that people are dying in the building, and it looks like he’s just letting it happen!

Brian Last: Do you think he’s lost control of it?

Jim Cornette: Either he’s lost control, or he’s decided he doesn’t give a damn anymore. Because the Cowboy Watts I knew back in Mid-South wouldn’t have stood for this. He would’ve shut this shit down weeks ago. Instead, we’ve got two people dead, a riot, and this company still trying to figure out if they’re even gonna run on Sunday. It’s embarrassing.

Brian Last: Yeah… it’s a completely different world now.

Jim Cornette: It’s not even the same business anymore. Back then, even when things got wild, there were still lines you didn’t cross. These idiots are crossing every line they can find, and now people are dead because of it. And the guy who used to be one of the strictest bookers in the business is sitting at the top of it all. It’s mind-blowing.

Brian Last: Jim, real quick before we wrap up — has there ever been anything like a crush in the stands at a wrestling show before? Like people getting trampled?

Jim Cornette: Not that I can remember. I’ve seen fans rush the ring, I’ve seen chairs thrown, I’ve seen buildings damn near come apart… but I don’t recall a situation where people were getting crushed to death in the stands during a wrestling show. That’s more like soccer hooligan shit or a concert gone wrong. Wrestling crowds could get rowdy as hell, but usually the violence stayed around ringside or right after the show ended. What happened in Charlotte was on a whole different level.

Brian Last: Speaking of rowdy crowds… you used to carry that tennis racket around back in the day, right?

Jim Cornette: (laughs) Damn right I did. Back when I was managing, if some of those rednecks got too close or started acting stupid, I’d beat their asses with that tennis racket. I wasn’t trying to fistfight these guys — I had a weapon, and I used it. A lot of those old territories, if you didn’t stand your ground, the fans would walk all over you. So yeah, that racket came in real handy more times than I can count.

Brian Last: Going back to the show real quick… Mariska came out in that purple strapless dress for her opening promo. What’d you think of that?

Jim Cornette: (scoffs) She looked like she was going to a goddamn cocktail party, not running a wrestling show. And let’s be honest here — we all know what’s going on. Cowboy’s out here parading his mistress around like it’s some kind of inside joke. He likes showing her off to everybody else while pretending nobody knows they’re fucking. It’s the oldest move in the book for guys like that. “Look at my hot young GM while my wife’s at home.” It’s pathetic.

Brian Last: Yeah, that whole dynamic feels pretty obvious at this point.

Jim Cornette: It’s embarrassing. But that’s the least of this company’s problems right now.

Brian Last: Speaking of problems… what do you think happens on Sunday? Are they even gonna be able to run this PPV?

Jim Cornette: I don’t know how they do it, Brian. They’ve got two people dead, a riot, a building that got torn up, and now the whole world is watching them. Even if they’re allowed to run, how do you promote a show after something like this? “Come see the follow-up to the riot where two people got killed!” It’s insane. And that’s not even counting all the other bullshit they’ve got going on behind the scenes with Sterling and everything else.

Brian Last: It feels like they’re in way over their heads.

Jim Cornette: They’ve been in over their heads for weeks. They just finally ran out of room to keep pretending everything was under control. This whole thing is a disaster, and I don’t see how they dig themselves out of it.

Brian Last: Yeah… that’s gonna do it for this week’s show. We’ll be back next time with more on this mess.

Jim Cornette: God help us all if they actually try to run on Sunday.

Saturday, June 27, 2026

CBWL 065

 Wrestling Observer Live

June 22, 2026

Bryan Alvarez: Alright, we’re back. Dave, I don’t even know where to start with this CBWL show from Charlotte. I really don’t.

Dave Meltzer: Well, let’s start with the fact that they did another show with no ring. Again. They’re using the Sterling Marlin situation as the excuse, and at this point it’s just part of the presentation. But that’s the least of what happened tonight.

Bryan Alvarez: Yeah, no, the least of it. The least of it was the no ring. We got way past that pretty quick.

Dave Meltzer: The big thing, obviously, is the Emma Watson angle. That went to a place that… I don’t even know how to describe it. She attacked Nicki Minaj backstage, choked her with straps, went on this long rant, then ripped all the tubes and wires off Sterling Marlin and dumped him on the floor. Then she strapped Nicki to a gurney and threw her down the stairs. And it didn’t even look like it went as planned. It looked like it went down more flights than they meant it to.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, that wasn’t wrestling. That wasn’t even “edgy wrestling.” That was just… I don’t even know what that was. And the way they sold it on commentary? Freddie Benson sounded like he was having a panic attack. Chelsea Handler was screaming. Even Sofia Vergara sounded upset. And then you could hear Cowboy Watts in the background telling them to sell it like murder. They’re telling the announcers to sell a stunt like it’s an actual attempted murder on live television.

Dave Meltzer: And the crowd reacted like it was real. They were rushing the barricades. Fire alarms were going off. It turned into an actual riot in the building. I don’t know how much of that was planned and how much of it got away from them, but it looked out of control.

Bryan Alvarez: And this is after weeks of them already pushing this stuff further and further. The Mila Kunis promo on Pam Beesly was nasty as hell. She went into all this The Office backstory about fucking Jim and how Pam strung him along and how she was the one who told Roy about the kiss. It was mean, it was personal, and it was designed to completely humiliate her. And then she superkicked her and pinned her while she was out. That was probably the best-executed thing on the show, but even that was just straight-up humiliation porn.

Dave Meltzer: It was effective, though. If you’re trying to get Mila over as a vicious heel, that worked. The problem is they’re doing so much of this stuff that it’s all starting to blend together. And then you had Mariska coming out and booking Florence Pugh in an “Eat My Shit” match against Kristen Bell because Florence has been eating cheese and is constipated. That’s where we are now.

Bryan Alvarez: And Wendy Williams had a full-on breakdown on camera after that. She was laughing, then choking, then she looked completely lost and didn’t know where she was. They had to pull her off-screen. I don’t even know if that was a work or if something actually happened to her, but it looked bad either way.

Dave Meltzer: The show ended with Taylor Swift beating up Miranda Cosgrove in the parking garage next to Sterling’s vandalized truck after Mariska gave her permission to go after Emma with no consequences. And they just left on that shot while the building was still in chaos behind them.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, at what point do we stop calling this a wrestling promotion? Because this isn’t wrestling anymore. This is just fetish content with wrestling camera angles. The stairs spot, the “Eat My Shit” match, the constant humiliation, the one-sided beatdowns… this is not sports entertainment. This is something else entirely. And the fact that they’re having the announcers sell attempted murder like it’s real? That’s not edgy. That’s just irresponsible.

Dave Meltzer: Well, the question is whether this is sustainable. Because they keep escalating. Every show they go further. And at some point, either the audience is going to get numb to it, or it’s going to cross a line that even their audience won’t accept. We saw a little bit of that tonight with how the crowd reacted to the Emma stuff. Some people were into it, but a lot of them looked genuinely disturbed. And when you have actual riots in the building, that’s not a good sign for long-term business.

Bryan Alvarez: And now we’re supposed to believe they’re going to top this on Sunday? What are they gonna do, have someone actually die on the show? Because that’s the only place left to go from here. This is already so far past the line that I don’t even know what the next step is supposed to be.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, we just got this report in from Charlotte. Two people are dead. At least 27 injured. Police used tear gas inside the building. There was a crush in the lower concourse, people got trampled, businesses downtown got looted, cars were set on fire. This is no longer just “a wild angle.” This is an actual disaster.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah, this is bad. According to the reports coming out now, one man, 34-year-old Marcus Ellison from Concord, was trampled during the crush near the lower concourse and died. A 29-year-old woman from Charlotte, Kayla Rivera, had a medical emergency during the chaos and was pronounced dead at the scene. Another 27 people were treated for injuries, with eight of them listed as serious. Police made 41 arrests.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, when we were talking earlier about the stairs spot and whether it got away from them, I don’t think either of us realized it had already spiraled this far outside the building. This wasn’t just fans being loud. This was a full-scale riot.

Dave Meltzer: From what I’m hearing from people inside the building and a couple of sources close to the promotion, the plan was always to have the Emma angle feel dangerous and out of control. They wanted the crowd to be angry at Emma. They wanted it to feel like something had gone wrong. But they did not expect the level of reaction they got.

Bryan Alvarez: So the stairs spot was supposed to look bad, but not this bad?

Dave Meltzer: The stairs spot itself was planned to be rough. They wanted it to look like Emma had completely lost it. But according to one person who was backstage, when the gurney went down the extra flight and it looked as violent as it did, even some of the agents were caught off guard by how far it went. And once the crowd saw that, combined with Emma dumping Sterling on the floor earlier, people just snapped.

Bryan Alvarez: And then security and the cops couldn’t control it. They had to bring in riot gear and use tear gas inside the coliseum. That’s how bad it got.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah. Multiple sources have told me that once the alarms started going off and people started rushing the barricades trying to get to Emma, it turned into a genuine safety issue. Some people were trying to “handle it themselves,” like one fan told reporters. Others were just trying to get out with their families and got caught in the middle. One witness said her husband had to carry their youngest child while she held onto their daughter because people were shoving and screaming.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, this is the part that pisses me off the most. They knew what kind of reaction they were trying to get. They wanted people to be furious at Emma. But when you do an angle like that — especially one involving an old man on life support getting dumped on the floor and a woman getting thrown down the stairs — you have to know there’s a chance some people in the crowd are going to take it too seriously. And when that happens in a building that’s already on edge from two weeks of no-ring shows and increasingly brutal angles, this is what you get.

Dave Meltzer: Well, and now they have two deaths on their hands. Even if both of those are ruled accidental or medical emergencies brought on by the chaos, that’s still two people who went to a wrestling show and didn’t come home. That’s not something you can just move past with a “it was a work” explanation.

Bryan Alvarez: And the question now is what happens Sunday in Atlanta. Are they even going to be allowed to run that show? Because after what happened in Charlotte, there’s no way local officials and police aren’t going to be all over this. And I don’t know how you top what they did last night without it looking like they’re just trying to cause another riot.

Dave Meltzer: I’ve been told the promotion has been in meetings since early this morning trying to figure out how to proceed. Some people inside are apparently arguing they should tone it down significantly for Sunday. Others are saying they have to lean into it even harder because the attention is through the roof right now. But after two deaths and dozens of injuries, I don’t know how you lean into it without looking completely tone-deaf.

Bryan Alvarez: This whole thing has gone off the rails, Dave. It stopped being wrestling a long time ago, and now it’s not even just edgy content anymore. People are dead. That’s the reality. And I don’t know how they come back from this.

Dave Meltzer: We’ll see what they do. But yeah… this is bad. This is really bad.

Dave Meltzer: I want to get into something else that I’ve been hearing about regarding Sterling Marlin, because it adds another layer to what happened last night.

Bryan Alvarez: Go ahead.

Dave Meltzer: From what multiple people close to the situation have told me, Sterling’s actual condition is worse than what they’ve been presenting on TV. The original story was that he was hurt in some kind of accident involving the ring truck, and they’ve been using that as the reason there’s been no ring the last two weeks. But according to people who have been around him, his health has been declining for a while now, and what happened in Charlotte was not as simple as just wheeling him out for a segment.

Bryan Alvarez: What do you mean?

Dave Meltzer: I’ve been told that for the hospital scene they shot with Nicki Minaj, they had to load Sterling up with a significant amount of medication just to get him through it. Strong sedatives and painkillers. Enough to keep him essentially immobilized and unresponsive for the shot. The sunglasses, the lack of movement, all of that wasn’t just acting. They needed him in that state to even do the segment.

Bryan Alvarez: Jesus Christ, Dave.

Dave Meltzer: And then Emma comes in, rips all the tubes and wires off him, and dumps him on the floor. From what I’ve been told, even with the medication, that part was rough on him physically. Some people backstage were not comfortable with how far they took it, especially knowing his actual condition.

Bryan Alvarez: So they drugged an already injured, older guy just to get him to lay there while Nicki gave him a lapdance on camera, and then they had Emma manhandle him and throw him on the floor? And this is after weeks of building this whole “Sterling is hurt, Sterling is recovering” storyline?

Dave Meltzer: That’s what I’m being told. And now, after what happened with the crowd last night — the riot, the two deaths, the injuries — there are people inside the company who are very concerned about how this is all going to play out, both publicly and legally. Because if it comes out that they were heavily medicating him just to get him through segments while presenting it as part of the storyline, that opens up a whole other can of worms on top of everything else that already happened in Charlotte.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, this is so much worse than I thought. They weren’t just doing a dark angle. They were using a legitimately hurt guy, loading him up with drugs to keep him still, and then having another performer attack him on camera. And then the crowd actually tried to get to Emma because they thought what they were seeing was real. Two people are dead because of this.

Dave Meltzer: And that’s why I think this situation is much more serious than just “another wild CBWL angle.” There are real-world consequences here now. Two people died. Dozens were injured. The building was damaged. Police used tear gas. And on top of that, you have reports that they were medicating an injured performer to get him through a segment that then turned into one of the main catalysts for the riot.

Bryan Alvarez: I don’t even know what they do from here. How do you run a PPV on Sunday after this? How do you explain any of this?

Dave Meltzer: I don’t know. But the fact that they were already having to medicate Sterling just to get him through a basic hospital scene tells me his condition is worse than they’ve let on publicly. And after last night, I think a lot of people inside that company are starting to realize they may have pushed things too far in more ways than one.

Bryan Alvarez: Yeah. This is bad, Dave. This is really bad.

Dave Meltzer: I’ve been getting more information about how Sterling Marlin actually got removed from that hospital, and it’s a lot more violent than I initially thought.

Bryan Alvarez: What are you hearing now?

Dave Meltzer: According to people who were told pieces of this, Tony Soprano and Butterbean were the ones sent to get him out. And Butterbean didn’t just stand there — he went on a full rampage inside the hospital. He was punching out nurses, doctors, security guards… anyone who got in his way. One source told me it looked like he knocked out at least twenty to thirty people before it was over.

Bryan Alvarez: Jesus Christ.

Dave Meltzer: While that was happening, Tony grabbed one of the nurses at gunpoint and used her as a hostage to force the doctor to unplug Sterling from life support. They didn’t just wheel him out quietly. They took the nurse with them too — basically kidnapped her so she could keep Sterling alive during transport.

Bryan Alvarez: So this wasn’t some quiet “against medical advice” discharge. This was a full-on violent extraction. Butterbean beating the shit out of hospital staff while Tony holds a nurse at gunpoint and forces them to disconnect a critically injured man from life support?

Dave Meltzer: That’s what I’m being told. And it lines up with some of the other things we’ve heard — like how heavily they had to medicate Sterling just to get him through the segment in Charlotte. This wasn’t a clean operation. It was messy, violent, and extremely risky.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, if even half of this is true, this is kidnapping, assault, and possibly manslaughter if that nurse is dead or if Sterling dies because of how they handled him. This isn’t wrestling drama anymore. This is criminal activity.

Dave Meltzer: And that’s why I’ve been careful saying this is all coming through hearsay. But too many people have now told me variations of the same story — Butterbean going wild, Tony taking a hostage, and them physically removing Sterling against the hospital’s wishes. It’s hard to ignore at this point.

Bryan Alvarez: Especially after what happened in Charlotte last night. Two people are dead because the crowd thought Emma Watson was actually trying to kill people on live TV. And now we’re finding out that behind the scenes, the company was already committing real crimes just to keep their storylines going. This whole thing is completely out of control.

Dave Meltzer: It is. And the more that comes out about how Sterling was actually handled, the worse this is going to look for everyone involved.

Bryan Alvarez: This is so much darker than I thought it was going to get.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, I gotta ask you something straight. With everything we’re hearing now — the violent extraction, the heavy medication, the way they were using him — how sick was Sterling actually during that hospital segment in Charlotte? Was that a work, or was he really that fucked up?

Dave Meltzer: From what I’ve been told, it was mostly a shoot in terms of his condition. He was in very bad shape. The injuries from whatever happened to him were real, and they were serious. Spinal issues, internal damage, the whole thing. When they filmed that scene with Nicki Minaj giving him the lapdance while he was just lying there motionless with the sunglasses on… he wasn’t acting. He was heavily sedated.

Bryan Alvarez: So he wasn’t even conscious for that?

Dave Meltzer: According to the people I’ve talked to, no. Not really. They had him drugged to the point where he was essentially unresponsive. The sunglasses, the lack of movement, all of that was real. They needed him in that state just to get through the segment without him waking up or reacting.

Bryan Alvarez: Jesus. So how the hell did they get away with putting a guy in that condition on TV like that? Especially after they’d already pulled him out of the hospital in such a violent way?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the part that’s bothering a lot of people right now. From what I’m hearing, they’ve been keeping him heavily medicated for weeks just to get him through these segments. Strong sedatives, painkillers, whatever they needed to keep him stable and quiet. The concern from some of the people I’ve spoken with is that they’re pushing his body way too hard just to keep the storyline going.

Bryan Alvarez: So they’re basically keeping him alive with drugs so they can keep using him as a prop in these angles?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the fear. Especially after what happened in Charlotte with the riot and the two deaths. People are starting to look at every part of this Sterling storyline a lot more closely, including how they’ve been handling his actual medical condition behind the scenes. And when you combine that with the reports of them violently removing him from the hospital and then continuing to drug him just to get him through TV segments… it starts to look really reckless.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, at what point does this stop being “edgy creative” and start being straight-up dangerous? They already had a real riot last night with casualties. Now we’re finding out they were drugging a legitimately injured guy just to keep him on camera. How far are they willing to push this?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the question a lot of people inside and outside the company are asking right now. Because if even half of what I’m being told is true, they’ve been risking this man’s life for weeks just to keep a storyline alive. And after what happened in Charlotte, that’s not something they can just brush off anymore.

Bryan Alvarez: This whole thing is completely out of control.

Dave Meltzer: It is. And I don’t think we’ve even seen the full extent of it yet.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, I keep coming back to that part where Emma dumps Sterling on the floor. Even if he was heavily drugged, how the hell does a guy in his condition survive that? We’re talking about an older man with spinal damage and internal injuries. Getting yanked off a bed and slammed onto a hospital floor? That could’ve killed him on the spot.

Dave Meltzer: Well, that’s the thing. We still don’t have an official age on Sterling in this storyline, but from the way they’ve been presenting him, he’s clearly not a young guy. He’s been portrayed as this grizzled, old-school truck driver type. Even if he’s only in his late 50s or early 60s, with the injuries he’s supposed to have — spinal compression, internal bleeding, broken ribs — getting thrown onto a hard floor like that is extremely dangerous. Especially if he’s already sedated and his body can’t protect itself.

Bryan Alvarez: And they had Emma rip all the tubes and wires off him first. So even if the machines were keeping him stable, she just yanked everything out and then dumped him. How does he not code right there on the floor?

Dave Meltzer: From what I’ve been told, they had him so heavily medicated that his body wasn’t really reacting normally. But that’s also part of the problem. If he was that sedated, how much stress could his system actually handle? People have died from less. And we’re supposed to believe he just laid there while all of this was happening around him.

Bryan Alvarez: What about Nicki? She got choked with those straps and then thrown down multiple flights of stairs on that gurney. Even if it was a work, the way it looked on camera… that had to have done some real damage. How hurt do you think she actually is?

Dave Meltzer: I’ve heard she was pretty shaken up. The gurney going down the extra flight and bouncing off the wall made it look a lot worse than they probably planned. From what I’ve been told, she had some bruising and was sore as hell, but nothing was broken. Still, getting choked out and then launched down concrete stairs like that? Even with pads and protection, that’s going to leave marks. And if she wasn’t expecting it to go that far, the shock alone would’ve been rough.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, this is the part that keeps pissing me off. They’re doing these extremely physical, dangerous-looking spots with people who are already in rough shape or older, and then acting surprised when things go wrong or when the crowd reacts like it’s real. Sterling getting dumped on the floor, Nicki getting thrown down the stairs… at what point do they stop and think “maybe this is too much”?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the question a lot of people are asking right now. Especially after what happened with the crowd in Charlotte. When you push things this far with performers who are already compromised, you’re playing with fire. And eventually, something’s going to give.

Bryan Alvarez: Yeah. And I don’t think we’ve seen the worst of it yet.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, let’s talk specifically about the rioting that happened during the show in Charlotte. Not after, but while the show was still going on. Fans rushing the barricades, trying to get backstage to get to Emma Watson, police in riot gear, tear gas inside the building… two people ended up dead because of it. Have you ever seen anything like that happen during a wrestling show before?

Dave Meltzer: Not like this. I’ve seen riots at wrestling shows before, but never quite in this context or with this level of consequence.

I’ve covered situations where crowds got out of control. ECW had multiple riots in the 90s where fans were throwing chairs and invading the ring. There were times in Japan, especially in the hardcore and deathmatch scenes, where things got very ugly and fans would rush the ring. Even in Mexico, there have been incidents where crowds have turned violent. And of course, there was the infamous riot after the Montreal Screwjob in 1997, where fans were throwing things and the building was in chaos.

But those were usually reactions to booking decisions or finishes that pissed people off. This was different. This was a crowd reacting to what they believed was a real, violent crime happening in front of them — a woman being choked and thrown down stairs, and an injured old man being attacked. And instead of just booing or throwing things, a large portion of the crowd tried to physically get to the person they thought was responsible.

That’s not something I’ve seen happen during a wrestling show before. I’ve never seen a storyline cause fans to believe someone was being legitimately attacked to the point that they tried to storm backstage during the event. And I’ve certainly never seen that result in deaths inside the building.

Bryan Alvarez: The fact that police had to use tear gas inside the arena says everything. That’s not a wrestling crowd getting rowdy. That’s a full-scale riot.

Dave Meltzer: Exactly. And the fact that it happened while the show was still ongoing, and that two people died because of the chaos it created… that’s unprecedented in wrestling. I’ve seen fans get hurt at shows before. I’ve seen medical emergencies in crowds. But I’ve never seen a wrestling angle directly trigger a deadly riot during the event itself.

This is a different level. And it’s going to be very hard for them to come back from it.

Bryan Alvarez: Especially when you consider they were already pushing things this far with injured performers behind the scenes. It’s like they were playing with fire in every possible way, and it finally blew up on them.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah. This one’s going to be talked about for a long time… for all the wrong reasons.

Bryan Alvarez: Here’s what I keep coming back to, Dave. The two deaths happened during the final segment — when Taylor was chasing Emma in the parking garage and then beat up Miranda. By that point, the show was basically over. So how the hell were they supposed to stop it? It was already the last thing on the show.

Dave Meltzer: Well, that’s the thing. Technically, you’re right. Once they went to that final segment, the show was essentially done. In live TV, especially with something this chaotic, pulling the plug in the middle of the last angle isn’t really realistic. By the time the crowd started rushing and the crush happened, they were already in the closing moments.

Bryan Alvarez: So are we saying they couldn’t have done anything? That’s bullshit. They could’ve ended the show earlier. They could’ve cut the feed the second things started getting out of control with Emma. Instead, they let it play out all the way to the end, and people died because of it.

Dave Meltzer: I’m not saying they couldn’t have done anything. I’m saying that by the time the actual crush and the deaths happened, the show was already in its final segment. Stopping it at that exact moment wouldn’t have changed much because the damage was already done. The crowd had already snapped during the Emma attack and the stairs spot. That’s when things really escalated.

Bryan Alvarez: But that’s my point. They should’ve recognized how dangerous it was getting before they went to that final segment. The second Emma started choking Nicki and ripping tubes out of Sterling, that should’ve been the cue to get the hell out of there. Instead, they kept rolling and even had Taylor go after Emma in the parking garage like it was just another angle. And while that was happening, people were dying in the stands.

Dave Meltzer: Look, I agree they should’ve pulled the plug earlier. But you also have to understand how these things work in the moment. Once the crowd starts moving and security loses control, it’s very hard to just “stop the show” cleanly. Especially when you’re dealing with something that’s already spiraling this fast. By the time they realized how bad it was, it was probably too late to prevent the worst of it.

Bryan Alvarez: So what, we just shrug and say “well, it was the last segment so they couldn’t do anything”? That’s not good enough. Two people are dead because this company decided to play with fire for weeks and then acted surprised when it actually burned them.

Dave Meltzer: I’m not shrugging it off. I’m just saying that from a pure production standpoint, once they were in that final segment and the crowd had already turned, stopping the show wouldn’t have magically fixed the situation. The real failure was letting things get to that point in the first place.

Bryan Alvarez: Yeah. And that’s on them.

Bryan Alvarez: Before we get too deep into the Emma stuff and the riot, I want to talk about Mila Kunis for a second, because I thought her segment was one of the strongest things on the show.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah, that was probably the best-executed angle of the night. The way she jumped Pam from the crowd, dominated her on the plywood, and then cut that long, vicious promo… it was mean as hell, but it was effective.

Bryan Alvarez: It was brutal. She went into all that The Office backstory — admitting she fucked Jim, blaming Pam for stringing him along for years, taking credit for telling Roy about the kiss, all of it. And she didn’t just say it once and move on. She kept going. It felt personal. It felt like she was trying to completely destroy Pam’s character.

Dave Meltzer: And it worked. That’s the thing. Whether you like the content or not, from a pure wrestling standpoint, it accomplished what it was supposed to do. It made Mila look like a vicious, nasty heel who’s willing to go to dark places. And Pam came out of it looking completely broken. That’s good, effective heel work.

Bryan Alvarez: The only thing I’ll say is that it felt very much in line with the overall tone of this show. Everything was mean. Everything was personal. Everything was designed to humiliate people. Mila’s promo fit right in with that, but it also stood out because it was so well done compared to some of the other stuff.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah. Out of everything that happened on this show, Mila’s angle is probably the one that helped someone the most. If they’re trying to build her as a serious heel, this was a big step in that direction. The rest of the show was chaos and darkness, but that segment actually felt like it had a clear purpose and it delivered on it.

Bryan Alvarez: It’s funny, because on any other show, that promo would’ve been the main talking point. But with everything else that happened — especially the Emma stuff and the riot — it kind of got overshadowed. Which is a shame, because it was really good.

Dave Meltzer: It was. And it might end up being one of the few things from this show that actually helps someone long-term instead of just adding to the mess.

Bryan Alvarez: Alright, let’s talk about this “Eat My Shit” match they announced. Mariska comes out after Florence Pugh’s match, calls her out for eating cheese all week and being constipated, and then books her in an “Eat My Shit” match against Kristen Bell at the PPV. What the fuck even is this?

Dave Meltzer: It’s exactly what it sounds like, apparently. From what was said on the show, it’s a match where the loser has to… well, eat shit. Literally. It was presented as a punishment for Florence not taking care of herself and running her mouth.

Bryan Alvarez: This is so far beyond wrestling at this point. I don’t even know what to call it anymore. They’ve been building Florence’s character around eating cheese and being backed up, and now they’re turning that into an actual match stipulation. And they had Wendy Williams out there laughing and piling on about how Florence can’t even shit, so how is she supposed to win?

Dave Meltzer: It’s clearly meant to be another layer of humiliation. They’ve been leaning hard into body-related degradation lately — the granny panties spot with Laura Prepon last week, Mila’s promo on Pam, and now this. It feels like they’re trying to make these matches feel as personally embarrassing as possible for the people involved.

Bryan Alvarez: But Florence Pugh? She’s not even been positioned as some big star or anything. She’s relatively new, she’s been eating cheese on camera as a running gag, and now they’re making her do this? And Kristen Bell is the one who gets to be on the other side of it. It just feels mean-spirited for the sake of being mean-spirited.

Dave Meltzer: Well, that’s kind of been the direction of this whole show. Everything has been mean. Everything has been designed to embarrass or degrade someone. The “Eat My Shit” match fits right into that. Whether it’s good for business or not is another question, but it’s consistent with what they’ve been doing.

Bryan Alvarez: Consistent, yeah. But at what point does “consistent” just mean they’re running out of ideas and defaulting to the grossest, most humiliating thing they can think of? Because this doesn’t feel like it’s building to anything meaningful. It just feels like they’re trying to top themselves with how disgusting they can get.

Dave Meltzer: That’s the risk they’re running. They keep escalating the humiliation and the bodily function stuff, and at some point it stops being shocking and just becomes the new normal for them. And when your new normal is booking “Eat My Shit” matches on pay-per-view, you’ve gone pretty far down that road.

Bryan Alvarez: I don’t even know how you promote this. “Come see Florence Pugh eat shit at the PPV!” Like… what are they even doing anymore?

Dave Meltzer: I don’t know either. But they’ve clearly decided this is the direction they want to go in.

Bryan Alvarez: Hold on, Dave. When you said they’re punishing Florence for “not taking care of herself,” what exactly do you mean by that? Because on the show it just sounded like she was eating too much cheese.

Dave Meltzer: Well, that’s the surface-level story they’re telling on TV. But from what I’ve been told, there’s a rumor going around the locker room that Florence hasn’t been doing the mandatory bi-weekly enema sessions that Conrad Murray has been booking for the girls.

Bryan Alvarez: …What?

Dave Meltzer: Apparently in CBWL, there’s this expectation that the women are supposed to be getting regular enemas done by Conrad. It’s treated like part of the job. And the word is that Florence has been skipping them. So now they’re using this “Eat My Shit” match as a way to call her out and embarrass her for it.

Bryan Alvarez: You’re telling me that not getting enemas is, like, a thing in this company? That other girls won’t work with you if you’re not doing them?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the rumor. It’s being compared to not shaving your pussy. Like, if you’re not keeping up with that kind of maintenance, the other girls don’t want to work with you. It’s seen as unprofessional. One person even called it the “soft handshake” of the business — that thing that tells everyone else you’re not really serious about this.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, this is so far beyond wrestling I don’t even know what to call it anymore. They’re out here forcing girls to get enemas as part of the job, and if you don’t do it, they book you in a match where you have to eat shit on pay-per-view? What the fuck is this company?

Dave Meltzer: I’m just telling you what I’ve been hearing. Whether it’s 100% true or not, that’s the talk going around. And it explains why they went so hard at Florence with this angle instead of just doing a normal punishment match.

Bryan Alvarez: This is sick, man. This whole thing is sick.

Bryan Alvarez: Dave, we’ve spent all this time talking about what happened in Charlotte last night. Two people are dead, there was a riot inside the building, police used tear gas, and the whole thing turned into an absolute disaster. So I gotta ask — what the hell happens on Sunday? Are they even going to be able to run this PPV in Atlanta?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the big question right now. From what I’ve been told, there’s a lot of uncertainty inside the company about whether they should even go forward with it. Some people are arguing they need to cancel or at least postpone it, especially with everything that just happened and the attention it’s going to bring. Others are saying they have to run it no matter what because backing out would make them look even worse.

Bryan Alvarez: How do you even promote a show after this? “Come see the follow-up to the riot where two people died!” It’s insane. And that’s not even getting into the fact that they were already doing some really dark, dangerous stuff behind the scenes with Sterling and the whole hospital situation.

Dave Meltzer: Well, that’s part of the problem. A lot of people inside are worried that if they run on Sunday, they’re going to get even more scrutiny — both from fans and from authorities. Between the riot, the deaths, and now these reports about how they handled Sterling’s extraction and medical situation… this isn’t something that’s just going to blow over in a couple of days.

Bryan Alvarez: Do you think they’ll even be allowed to run? After what happened in Charlotte, I can’t imagine local officials or the police in Atlanta are going to be thrilled about letting this company put on another show so soon.

Dave Meltzer: That’s another layer to it. I haven’t heard anything concrete yet about whether Atlanta is trying to step in or put restrictions on them, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that becomes an issue. And even if they are allowed to run, the bigger question is whether they should. Because right now, it feels like they’re in way over their heads.

Bryan Alvarez: They keep escalating and escalating, and now it’s blown up in their face. Two people are dead because of something that happened during their show. How do you come back from that?

Dave Meltzer: I don’t know. But whatever they decide to do on Sunday, it’s going to be under a microscope. And if they try to lean into the same kind of stuff that caused all this in the first place, it could get even worse.

Bryan Alvarez: Alright, so if they actually run on Sunday, what the hell is even on the card? We know they announced the “Eat My Shit” match with Florence Pugh and Kristen Bell, and they mentioned an Escape the Stall rematch with the iCarlys against Boxxy and Anya. But beyond that, do we have any idea what else is happening?

Dave Meltzer: Not a whole lot has been officially announced yet. The “Eat My Shit” match and the Escape the Stall rematch are the only two matches that were made on the go-home show. Everything else is still pretty up in the air, especially with everything that happened last night.

Bryan Alvarez: So we don’t even know what the main event is?

Dave Meltzer: Not officially. There’s been talk that Emma Watson is going to be heavily involved, obviously, after what she did to Nicki and Sterling. And Taylor Swift was positioned as going after her at the end of the Charlotte show, so I’d expect some kind of blowoff or confrontation between them. But whether that’s a match or just another angle, I don’t know yet.

Bryan Alvarez: What about Mila Kunis? She had that really strong segment last night. Are they doing anything with her on the PPV?

Dave Meltzer: Nothing’s been announced, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t have something for her. She looked like the most credible heel on the show last night. If they’re smart, they’ll capitalize on that.

Bryan Alvarez: This whole card feels like it’s being thrown together at the last minute while the company is on fire. They’ve got two matches announced, a bunch of unresolved angles, and now they’re dealing with two deaths and a riot from last night. How the fuck do you build a PPV off of that?

Dave Meltzer: That’s the problem. Normally you’d have the go-home show set up several key matches and angles for the PPV. Instead, most of the focus last night was on chaos and punishment. So right now it feels like they’re scrambling to figure out what the actual card even is.

Bryan Alvarez: Do you think they’ll even have time to properly build anything before Sunday?

Dave Meltzer: Probably not. At this point it feels like they’re just going to have to throw something together and hope the Emma situation and the fallout from Charlotte carries most of the interest. Whether that’s enough to actually draw is another question.

Bryan Alvarez: Before we get out of here, I gotta ask you one more thing, Dave. Where the fuck was security during all of this? We had a full-scale riot inside the building — people rushing barricades, trying to get backstage, a crush that killed two people — and it felt like nobody was doing anything to stop it until the cops showed up with riot gear. Where was CBWL’s own security?

Dave Meltzer: That’s a very good question. From what I’ve been told, their head of security, John Wick, was actually there. But from the reports coming out, it sounds like they were completely overwhelmed. Once the crowd decided they were going after Emma, it escalated way too fast for the normal security team to handle. A lot of people have been asking the same thing you are — where were they when this was all going down?

Bryan Alvarez: And what about Butterbean? We haven’t heard a single thing about him during any of this. Was he even at the show? Because if their “security” or enforcers weren’t doing anything while people were getting trampled and tear gassed, that’s a massive failure.

Dave Meltzer: Butterbean’s whereabouts during the show are still unclear. There’s some speculation that he might’ve still been tied up with the Sterling situation from earlier in the week. We know he was involved in getting Sterling out of the hospital, and that whole thing was a mess. It’s possible he wasn’t even at the arena, or if he was, he wasn’t in a position to do anything about the riot. Either way, it doesn’t look good that one of their more physical guys wasn’t visible when things got out of control.

Bryan Alvarez: So we’ve got a company that’s running these extremely dark, violent angles, using injured performers, and when shit actually hits the fan in the crowd, their security is either missing or useless. That’s not a good look.

Dave Meltzer: No, it’s not. And it’s going to be one of the many things people are going to be asking about in the coming days — how did things get this bad, and why wasn’t there a better plan in place to handle it when it did?

Bryan Alvarez: This whole thing is a disaster. I don’t even know what to say anymore.

Dave Meltzer: Yeah. We’ll be back tomorrow with more on this developing situation. Thanks for listening.

Bryan Alvarez: Take care, everybody.