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Is it still fun and enjoyable or are aspects of it too antiquated today-- example: are there really long gaps between save points, too many random encounters, story is good or corny?
Like many of you I'm older and have less time for gaming so I have to carefully pick what I devote time too and and want to make sure it's worth the investment. I prefer games in the 25-40 hour range but will definitely go way higher if it's truly awesome.
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The random battle can be annoying, they sometime feel too frequent, and the battles usually aren't quick, but so what a games doesn't have to be perfect to be great. Skies is great, is there isn't much else like it.
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Ask here,
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197237-skies-of-arcadia The board is active
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Absolutely. Still needs a sequel
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The story, sound track, world design and even the graphics hold up marvellously.
The random battles drag the game down though and may be a deal breaker for some. If you don't mind a high encounter rate, Skies is a delightful adventure.
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Shouldn't seem any different. It's a random battle turn based RPG. The gameplay was out of date when those kind of games were invented.
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Yep. Beat it last year and I can easily say it's the best game I beat last year. I will say the random encounter rate is annoying sometimes.
You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?
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Thanks I'll lean towards giving this a go. Biggest thing holding me back is long battles that I can't stop and save or long gaps between save points. Sometimes I'm gaming but need to stop unexpectedly, or other times I only have 30 mins to play. I love my 3ds and Vita cause of sleep mode
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samxx1x posted...
Shouldn't seem any different. It's a random battle turn based RPG. The gameplay was out of date when those kind of games were invented. Yes, but it was far less out of date in 2000 than it is in 2017. In 2000, there were still a fair number of turn based JRPGs being developed with random battles, plus a whole bunch that had been released recently on the PS1. In 2017, turn-based JRPGs with random battles are a lot less common than they used to be.
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Fair enough I will defer to you knowledge. I did play skies but as you could probably tell I'm not a massive fan of the genre!
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/dreamcast/197237-skies-of-arcadia-dc/reviews/163129
I wrote a review about it. I actually like the game even more today than 15 years ago. the game has aged remarkably eventhough I dislike turnbased battles they didn't bother me in skies |
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Yeah its great, try and play Grandia 2 aswell if you haven't also.
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@bultje112 can you check my question in the topic on the SOA board? :)
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MichaelS91 posted...
Yeah its great, try and play Grandia 2 aswell if you haven't also. i second grandia 2. my fav rpg on the dreamcast. i went back and replayed skies a few years back, game felt terribly dated in the graphics department even then, so imagine how hysterical it'd look in 2017. just felt like id mention that, because lets not kid anyone, as gamers were all graphics wh***s whether we want to admit it or not... BUT, i really gotta give credit in the fighting mechanics, where this game shines it holds up even til today. def worth a play.
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the graphics of skies still look amazing imo. especially on vga
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este posted...
@bultje112 can you check my question in the topic on the SOA board? :) I did :) |
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Skies of Arcadia definitely holds up. Fantastic game!
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I replayed it last December myself and it's easily better than 90% of the RPGs that are released today. Absolutely loved every minute of it.
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The graphics didn't age as well as Grandia 2's because they went for a more detailed/realistic style for SoA, but i think it still looks ok.
The high rate of random encounters was always a controversial aspect of SoA, i don't think it has much to do with age. Either you like that aspect of SoA, or you can live with it, or it'll make you dislike the game.
I hope Grasshopper's new PS4 game LET IT DIE will also come to the Nintendo Switch!
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SonRuck posted...
Absolutely. Still needs a sequel And a prequel too! <: D
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on gamecube? absolutely.
on dc? not really.
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dr_zomberg posted...
on gamecube? absolutely. haha. troll.... |
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not troling.
i play my gamecbe version more than the dc version. more quests, more things to do... the lower quality music is not a real detriment to me if it means not having to fight every 13 seconds.
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No hard feelings! ; )
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dr_zomberg posted...
not troling. the sound was seriously degraded imo. also the random battles are just the same in the gamecube for me. not any less at all. also I prefer to play it on dreamcast through vga graphically and I must say I love how the vmu works with searching chams in the game. in every way you feel the game was made with only dreamcast in mind and the sidequests aren't that big of a deal to me. the game is very long as it is. |
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The encounter rate reduction on the GC is barely noticeable. You still get into a random battle all the damn time.
I do prefer the additional content, but also miss the music. Hopefully they make a Skies of Arcadia HD, with all of the GC's extra content, plus an even lower encounter rate. As it stands, there's no definitive version of the game.
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exactly. if the random battle encounter in the gamecube is 1% lower than the dreamcast then it's a lot. never noticed it
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well i noticed a far wider margin than 1%. plus more experience earned per battle, requiring less grinding.
also, piastol. piastol> the dreamcast version. i was this close to cosplaying as her one time.
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Video games don't age. Skies of Arcadia is as good as it was in 2000.
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Vegeta1000 posted...
Video games don't age. Skies of Arcadia is as good as it was in 2000. Video games don't age, but standards improve. What was considered acceptable in 2000 (lots of random encounters, no voice acting) is considered very primitive by today. Yes, it is the same game, but we are not the same as gamers. That is why it is perfectly reasonable for a person to like a game upon release and dislike the same game after revisiting it 15 years later. The game didn't change; the player did. It is also why someone who didn't play the game back in 2000 may not like the game at all today. They won't have any nostalgia for it and will be less patient with outdated design.
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As an aside, the best game to feature Vyse and Aika as playable characters is Valkyria Chronicles.
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TheRushDawg posted...
Vegeta1000 posted...Video games don't age. Skies of Arcadia is as good as it was in 2000. Newer gamers are spoiled brats.
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Vegeta1000 posted...
TheRushDawg posted...Vegeta1000 posted...Video games don't age. Skies of Arcadia is as good as it was in 2000. No just newer gamers. Many older gamers have a tough time going back to the games of their youth after having been spoiled by the improvements made by modern games.
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TheRushDawg posted...
Vegeta1000 posted...TheRushDawg posted...Vegeta1000 posted...Video games don't age. Skies of Arcadia is as good as it was in 2000. This is me. I'm an older gamer my first system was NES and sometimes old games delight me other times they frustrate me with outdated systems given my limited time to game now. My #1 gripe is long time between save points since sometimes I need to completely stop playing at a moments notice and can't return to the game at all that day
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i dont have that problem.
i still own every game ive had since i was born. and i play them somewhat regularly so i dont feel nostalgia. the enjoyment i get from them today is the same i got when i was 4
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TheRushDawg posted...
Newer, more updated mechanics doesn't make newer games better by default. I agree that outdated mechanics can make older games harder to play today, but newer games are not without its faults. A common criticism with modern game developers is playing too safe (ex: Madden, Call of Duty, New Super Mario Bros.). Too many shooters play like Halo or Call of Duty rather than being its on thing. There were a lot of Doom clones back in the day, but they usually had something to make it stand out. Not the case with most games today. It's expected considering games today cost a lot more than it did back in the day, but still disappointing. Companies back in the day took more risk with their games and when it paid off it paid off big time.
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in general games are a lot better today then back in the day. however it's more regular now. the best games were also made 15-25 years ago because more risks were taken and more creativity was needed with limited resources.
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I loved it so much but near the end the random battles did start driving me crazy, though the Sky Ship battles more than make up for it! I think it was more the same song, (random battle music is always my downfall after the 700th time hearing that same song again).
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When are we gonna get a sequal/prequal? <: P
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I think it holds up pretty well today, strictly on the awesome world, characters, soundtrack, ship battles and exploration. The oft-cited random battle frequency didn't bother me, but in some cases, it can seem high. Later on, you can mod the ship to fly above or below the clouds, preventing random battles altogether, so that helped some.
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Snake_Oil posted...
When are we gonna get a sequal/prequal? <: P Never seemingly. Besides sonic, sega rally and virtua tennis and one or 2 others (eg phantasy star) with portable games they pretty much abandoned sequels or prequels to a very large bulk of games post dreamcast. But I guess the positive is we get brand new series.
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It doesn't hold up very well. What random encounters had over real time battle engagement was their scale. You could have a dedicated arena to showcase how big the monster was, because he didn't have to appear in its hub, but Skies of Arcadia isn't that monumental. Even the best Wii U RPG got this covered. Let's not even mention Vita's.
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It still looks great and has amazing character, but I'm not sure I could ever face playing any 45-hour JRPG again.
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