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Is it just me, or Ryo and Shenhua look WAAAY off now? Even less faithful to the original than the initial E3 2015 early concept models were.
I personally NEVER asked for this, and I'm an early backer with more than 500$ in the original kickstarter pledge. Is this Deep Silver's fault? I always abhorred Deep Silver as publisher/producer because they almost never did anything right in this particular regard. Are they meddling into Shenmue's development process now?
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It's not as if the game is releasing tomorrow. There is still a lot of work to be done before the final release, so I wouldn't put too much faith into this being the final look. Hell, the trailer is called a "1st Teaser" on the official Playstation Youtube channel. Also, don't forget that this is a small studio (Sony is just helping with marketing), and the environments look pretty good so far.
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But it looked GOOD before (not "polished to perfection", but good already) as the development was progressing (those screenshots were just fine). Now it looks WORSE character faces-wise. What the hell happened? WHERE/WHEN did it gone astray? I wouldn't be surprised even one slightest bit if it turns out that this is Deep Silver's and ONLY Deep Silver's fault.
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Stop trying to blame people because you don't like how a couple fictional characters look. It doesn't even make sense. A company says they will pay for discs and some plastic boxes but only if Ryo's face changes? Get a life.
It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame.
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Get the hell out of here with that inexperienced uneducated kindergartner-tier troll BS of yours, kiddo.
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Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9
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Lovecraftiangod posted...
Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9 Predicting failure is worse than predicting successs. You're just being a cancerous fool.
It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame.
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Well, I obviously wouldn't go THAT far. Unlike with Mighty #9, everything else BESIDES JUST FACES looks quite fine in there (so far, that is). Mighty #9 was ugly crap since kickstarter.
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Game look amazing. Characters look amazing. Nothing wrong with the game. There is something wrong with TC's thread though. He should really close it before he further embarrasses himself.
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Mirage13 posted...
Characters look amazing NOT Ryo and definitely NOT Shenhua. I really couldn't care less about other characters for as long as the MAIN PROTAGONISTS don't look faithful to the original. I didn't pay 500+ dollars for THIS, I paid them for Ryo & Shenhua.
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Master_Faust posted...
Mirage13 posted...Characters look amazing Well that is your opinion and a pretty bad one at that. |
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ArsenicSteel posted...
Lovecraftiangod posted...Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9 Yeesh, what a toxic f***. |
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Mirage13 posted...
Well, that is your opinion Opinion of a man that got his main nickname (which is "Master Chen" in actuality. It's currently "Master Faust" on this site only and ONLY because someone else already took that account name before I've registered) in 1999, after playing original "Chapter I - Yokosuka". Opinion of a man that bought his very first ever Dreamcast console (and had more than 5 of them since then and up to this very day) strictly ONLY because of Shenmue and BIOHAZARD Code Veronica. Opinion of a man that was one of the very first non-"administrator/moderator team" registered users on the original forums of Shenmue Dojo. Opinion of a man that stays absolutely hardcore and completely relentless Shenmue adept and a 100% faithful pro-"Shenmue" preacher since the very first day and for all these years right up until today. Opinion of a man who absolutely without any second thought immediately gave out almost 500+ dollars to Shenmue III kickstarter right when it gone live during E3 2015. But, please, do tell me more about me, I guess. You definitely know about me more than I am, uh-huh. Father's Heaven?
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Master_Faust posted...
^ Ironic. |
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Master_Faust posted...
Mirage13 posted...Well, that is your opinion You need help, I'm not even joking.
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
ArsenicSteel posted...Lovecraftiangod posted...Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9 the irony, my god...
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To "Spammer God":
You need to try way harder than just that.
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This thread is pure comedic gold. Keep it up folks!
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What's so "comedic" in me expressing my concerns about the quality of my most beloved game series' continuation for which I've pledged more than 500$ in real hard-earned money?
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Mirage13 posted...
Game look amazing. Characters look amazing. Nothing wrong with the game. There is something wrong with TC's thread though. He should really close it before he further embarrasses himself. you from the future? |
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Master_Faust posted...
What's so "comedic" in me expressing my concerns about the quality of my most beloved game series' continuation for which I've pledged more than 500$ in real hard-earned money? Firstly, I was referring to the responses in this thread generally. Second, what they have shown is a work in progress alpha build with the game planned for a late 2018 release. There is plenty of time to make improvements. Since you are a backer, you should voice your concerns where it is more likely to be acknowledged. You may remember that people voiced concerns regarding character designs when the initial Shenmue 3 teaser was released as well. Finally, have some faith in Yu Suzuki. Considering the hard work Suzuki put into his notable titles in the past and given his attention to detail, I don't believe he'll just release a half baked product. |
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OMGAlien posted...
Have some faith in Yu Suzuki I never lost faith in Yu even one slightest bit to begin with. He IS the "Satoru Iwata of SEGA's", after all. I'm expressing these concerns because I feel like the quality of main character faces worsened due to Deep Silver's somehow (in one way or another) meddling into the development process. I always hated "executive meddling" in any way, shape, or form. It ruined a lot of potentially great games in the past. If this happens with Shenmue III, I'll probably won't be able to handle this at all and will quit being a gamer altogether. Because it was Shenmue exactly and no other title/series that made me who I am today as a sophisticated, professional, hardcore gamer.
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...ArsenicSteel posted...Lovecraftiangod posted...Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9 The* |
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Master_Faust posted...
OMGAlien posted...Have some faith in Yu Suzuki I really understand your passion towards Shenmue and respect it as Shenmue is one of my favourite games of all time. Shenmue provides an absolutely absorbing and unique gaming experience that was revolutionary for its time. The attention to detail in the game however is still unmatched by many games in the current generation. A lot of games that Deep Silver has published have been rather unimpressive. However, I don't think it is fair to jump to conclusions and put blame towards Deep Silver at this point. They are a publishing partner and I don't believe anything concrete has been revealed regarding the extent of the publisher's input when creative decisions are concerned. As a backer, you do have a platform through which you get to convey your concerns/opinions to the team, right? Perhaps, you can create a petition and send it as well to bolster your point of view if it receives enough signatures. |
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I think they look better than the 2015 footage.
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OMGAlien posted...
I don't think it's fair to blame Deep Silver at this point Before Deep Silver was announced as the publisher of choice for Shenmue III, the character models at that point (via screenshots) looked just fine. Character models became worse almost immediately after Deep Silver came into light. So how am I not supposed to make logically produced assumptions or naturally connect dots, in such of a case?
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Game is most likely to be s***. I'm sorry tc.
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>Trying this hard
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Master_Faust posted...
OMGAlien posted...I don't think it's fair to blame Deep Silver at this point You are making assumptions without any direct evidence. Those character designs could have been picked well before Deep Silver entered the equation. Correlation doesn't equal to causation. It could be mere co-incidence that just soon after the publishing deal was announced, we received new footage with unimpressive designs for certain characters. Not only is there enough time to make improvements, it's likely the team will feel compelled to make changes if enough people voice concerns. Since you are a backer, let the team know how you feel. |
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It's supposed to be coming this year. The reason why there hasn't been more is because of the "whiny minority" complaining about hearing about games too early.
"When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger." - Confucius
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KinjoTakemura posted...
It's supposed to be coming this year. "The current release date is scheduled for the second half of 2018". https://www.deepsilver.com/en/ys-net-inc-y-deep-silver-sellan-el-acuerdo-de-publicacion-global-de-shemue-iii/ |
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Sometimes the creator changes the style of how they want the character to look, that's up to them.
I feel like gamers often time think they have a say in how story or characters end up in a game, like they're a part of the creative process. We are merely paying for a glimpse at the developer's vision. Just because you are invested in that vision of theirs, doesn't mean they have to cater every design process after your taste. |
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OMGAlien posted...
The current release date is scheduled for the second half of 2018 The initial very first scheduled release date, which was posted on the original kickstarter, was supposed to be somewhere in October of 2017. MightyBaconX posted... Sometimes the creator changes the style of how they want the character to look, that's up to them. Not when it's a case of a DIRECT-EFFING-SEQUEL to a VERY notorious series. If it would've been just a second game in the series, style might've been changed, yes, but it's a THIRD game, with two full games before it which already solidified the overall look of the series. "Consistency" is the word you probably never heard of, huh?
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MightyBaconX posted...
Sometimes the creator changes the style of how they want the character to look, that's up to them. Well said. Shane Black eloquently gave his point of view regarding the matter as far as films are concerned when talking about the Predator suit designs in his upcoming film The Predator: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/686033-predator-costume#/slide/1 |
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MightyBaconX posted...
Gamers often think they have a say in how story or characters end up in a game, like they're a part of the creative process You really don't know much about Shenmue's fanbase or Shenmue's history in overall at all, huh? When it comes to Shenmue, Yu Suzuki ALWAYS directly listens to EVERYTHING fans have to say. Shenmue's players/fans DO directly affect the game's developing process. And NOT just "kickstarter backers", no. The ENTIRE commune (Shenmue Dojo, by most part) does. OMGAlien posted... Well said Not in the slightest bit.
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OMGAlien posted...
KinjoTakemura posted...It's supposed to be coming this year. Oh I meant 2018. Sorry. I don't know what the hell I was thinking about.
"When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger." - Confucius
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Master_Faust posted...
MightyBaconX posted...Gamers often think they have a say in how story or characters end up in a game, like they're a part of the creative process You are being unreasonable. Filmmakers and game developers take fan feedback into consideration but in many cases, what you largely get to experience is based on the creator's vision. The important factor to take into consideration is that fans have their own ideas of what characters should look like and what direction should be taken with the story. When you have fans with differing views, a creator's most reliable source of inspiration is their own vision. Once again, I'll use Shane Black as an example. Just read what he has to say regarding following his vision and thinking about what fans want: http://puregrainaudio.com/interviews/shane-black-interview-legendary-writer-director-talks-about-the-predator-iron-man-3-and-much-more Yu Suzuki takes fan feedback into consideration since he is aware of how passionate fans are but he envisioned the Shenmue story as a 16 chapter saga a long time ago. He'll primarily follow his vision for the series. KinjoTakemura posted... OMGAlien posted...KinjoTakemura posted...It's supposed to be coming this year. Long day perhaps? |
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All of what you see was done before Deep Silver stepped in so your baseless assumptions about their involvement here are ignorant as can be.
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>both the #38 and #39 >my face be like: 
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Master_Faust posted...
^ Stay ignorant.
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I just don't understand why they're going for such a stylised look when the original games were'nt nearly as stylised.
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First two games used actual photographs of real people and objects for textures, that's why Shenmue and Shenmue II are both so realistic in their overall style.
Shenmue III, however, utilizes friggin' Unreal Engine. UE4 especially in particular is notoriously ill-known for making everything look like a toon with plastic-like shine, regardless of asset.
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...ArsenicSteel posted...Lovecraftiangod posted...Shenmue 3 the next mighty no9 this (lower case "t". Suck it) is all you can do now. b**** (upper case "B").
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Master_Faust posted...
^ Don't be so rigid and be more accommodating to Suzuki's vision as well as the engine being used for the game. If not then you'll be setting yourself up for disappointment. Also, like I said to you multiple times, convey your concerns to the team behind the game as that will make it more likely for positive changes to come to fruition. I want the character facial designs and animations to be better. I am optimistic that they'll be improved as there is still time to make updates. However, as long as the game is great and it captures the magic of the first two games, I am not going to cry myself a river if some of the characters look a bit 'different'.
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Mmkay, so...according to Yu's Net, the footage presented in that Gamescom 2017 teaser video is supposedly 16~18 months old, and the project's state on both the models/textures and animation is waaay long ahead of that. I really don't know anymore how to feel about this. To believe or not to believe? If to believe them on this - then WHY in all the hell didn't they build a teaser based on the most latest state of the game? Why show us such utter STINT in models and sheer LACK of animations? Is this downright trolling of his core fan audience, perhaps?
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Master_Faust posted...
Mmkay, so...according to Yu's Net, the footage presented in that Gamescom 2017 teaser video is supposedly 16~18 months old, and the project's state on both the models/textures and animation is waaay long ahead of that. I really don't know anymore how to feel about this. To believe or not to believe? If to believe them on this - then WHY in all the hell didn't they build a teaser based on the most latest state of the game? Why show us such utter STINT in models and sheer LACK of animations? Is this downright trolling of his core fan audience, perhaps? The game wasn't at E3 2017 and the team has been busy developing Shenmue 3. http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/30/shenmue-3-wont-be-at-e3 It could be a combination of two factors. First, perhaps Suzuki felt pressure to show something recently (even if it's an old build). Second, it could also be possible that he wants to showcase the most up to date build later for a more impactful presentation. Like I said, I don't believe Yu Suzuki is going to release a half baked product and it's likely the game may even get delayed again if Yu Suzuki feels it doesn't live up to his standards/expectations.
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Thanks for the link
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Dont think anything happened besides we getting at look at some very early in development scenes.
It looked like an updated DC game.... which to be fair is what i expected and wanted. Dunno if anyone expects it different, but id temper those expectations, its not a AAA game with a AAA budget... it could be a 2d game for all i care as long as they finally bring the story to an end. |
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