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Just to make sure people aren't fooled by damage control threads.
You also won't be able to access sound test/music player with another Amiibo. A concept art gallery is locked behind yet another Amiibo. The Metroid 2 art gallery is locked behind a 4th Amiibo. So in total it's ANOTHER 44 pounds just to get access to things that were regular unlockables before. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-26-metroid-samus-returns-has-exclusive-content-for-four-amiibo Nintendo said that there is no other way to get access to the hardest difficulty and regular unlockables. Thanks New-Nintendo. Iwata is rolling in his grave :/ Let me repeat - on top of the limited edition price of 60 pounds, you need to spend another 44 pounds - so over 100 pounds - to get everything. It's absolutely shameless.
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kind of weird, you seemed to be defending amiibos in the other thread.
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I thought they said Fusion mode was somewhere between normal and hard though. Either way, locking all the stuff out they have is super, super s***ty.
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Over 100 pounds? What is it made out of, lead? :^)
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Hey at least you Europeans get a special edition. All we get is a f***ing CD. Thanks NOA.
On second thought, why do we need the sound test if there's a CD in the special edition?
Surely you jestin'
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irulethegalaxy posted...
I thought they said Fusion mode was somewhere between normal and hard though. Either way, locking all the stuff out they have is super, super s***ty. Everything I've read, including the very article linked in this thread, is that the Fusion mode is harder than the one that you unlock in-game. |
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yab posted...
kind of weird, you seemed to be defending amiibos in the other thread. That's not weird. Iwata-Amiibos were a great idea. The point was to get the Amiibos not because of some digital content, but because of the Amiibos. They were meant to simply give you minor things in (multiple) games like another skin. That's why I bought the Amiibos that I currently own. I'm also okay with locking larger content behind it ... WHEN YOU CAN UNLOCK it by yourself. Even when unlocking it that way is crazy difficult. See for example Star Fox Zero. If they would have made it possible to unlock this difficulty by beating a speedrun (let's say 2 hours), I would have been totally fine with it as well. I was always against the Shovel Knight Amiibo (and locking coop behind it). And I'm also against this one. It's basically Shovel Knight Amiibo but way worse. And it's not done by a 3rd party developer, but by Nintendo themselves. I'm against it because it locks actual proper content behind them.
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Not buying this piece of s*** game anymore
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It's also shameless to include the limited edition in the price. There is no ingame content locked in the limited edition. Just bonus physical stuff.
I would also like to point out there is a hard mode in the base game. Not saying this is a good thing just a few things to keep in mind.
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jimi_dini posted...
yab posted...kind of weird, you seemed to be defending amiibos in the other thread. The Co-op was an add on though. The game was released before the Amiibo and Co-op were a thing and the game already had some free content updates. Not an unreasonable case of Amiibo locked content.
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I can't play the game at all without getting the game. I probably wouldn't play hard mode. I'll check out art galleries and bonus audio on YouTube when someone puts them up there.
I get why people are upset, but I don't need any of this extra content and I am still looking forward to this.
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AlbertWesker1 posted...
Not buying this piece of s*** game anymore Hi, Wesker.
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Oh no I can't unlock s***ty art modes I have no interest in.
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I didn't want to buy an amiibo and I wanted to play on hard but I didn't want it to be too hard. That was close.
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Being an amiibo collectors, my stands for this topic is that I support difference Amiibo unlock difference energy reserved tanks.
But I do hope only need 1 Amiibo to unlock all the extra modes features.
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I do not care, and I will buy the game regardless.
If I happen to find the amiibos in store I will also buy them, not open them, and never use them. |
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Calling this game a "piece of s***" because of its Amiibo usage (which was most likely forced on the developers, not deliberately included by them), ignores the massive improvements in visuals, audio and gameplay mechanics. But stay salty.
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Nintendo is the worst at DLC because it is on-disc. Gross. Amino should grant bonuses, and unlock stuff early, not bring the experience to a halt by hiding standard features.
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PSA = Pretty Stupid Attempt (at trolling)
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6-19-7 posted...
PSA = Pretty Stupid Attempt (at trolling) Posting facts is trolling, kid? |
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pikachupwnage posted...
The Co-op was an add on though. This doesn't matter at all. The game got various updates, which added more stuff. But people were already expecting that. It was part of the kickstarter price and also part of the regular game price. Not an unreasonable case of Amiibo locked content. It was BS. Amiibo shouldn't unlock proper content like this or difficulty settings etc. It seems they changed it and also changed coop from being exclusive to the Wii U version to being available on all platforms (well I doubt 3DS got it). Still it doesn't matter what they did months or years later.
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I'm honestly disgusted at how much extra content they've locked behind these amiibos. It's so f***ing blatantly obvious that these extras were cut out of the main game to be locked behind those goddamn happy meal toys.
What's even more sickening is how these extras like art gallery and sound mode were standard features in previous Metroid titles, now they want us to pay an exorbitant amount of money to access them? Just f*** off Nintendo. |
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
I'm honestly disgusted at how much extra content they've locked behind these amiibos. Exactly. I feel the same way. It's absolutely shameless. I mean locking all of that behind one Amiibo would already be disgusting. But this? 4 Amiibos? They are out of their minds. And then they even release a Limited Edition of the game, which doesn't include that content either. Shame on them. I hope it fails commercially. Because if it works out, we will see more of this stuff. I don't even get it. Amiibos still sell well on their own, right? Nintendo got taken over by pencil pushers and non-gamers, who only think short term profits. Iwata was smarter than that. Iwata would have probably made the Amiibos unlock those early, which I would have been fine with. 100% completion -> concept art gallery. Beat 2 hour speedrun -> hardest difficulty. Beat 4 hour speedrun -> music player/sound test. 75% completion -> Metroid 2 art gallery. Now that would have been great. Normies would have bought them to get those features and it would have been fine.
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It's not like you can still watch galleries on Metroid-dedicated wikias and listen to the soundtrack on YouTube.
And afawk the Fusion mode is hard mode with a new cosmetic thing. So yeah, troll topic. Reported.
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So much content, so essential for a complete experience.
This topic is no not a troll, it is an advertising for amiibo figurines. |
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let's juat bury the metroid franchise for good.
some people seriously need to git gud.
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You guys are aware that Amiibos are just happy meal toys with NFC tags? Just saying.
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honyo29 posted...
let's juat bury the metroid franchise for good. Go die in hell.
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RIP Iwata, RIP Nintendo
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6-19-7 posted...
It's not like you can still watch galleries on Metroid-dedicated wikias and listen to the soundtrack on YouTube. Th9is isn't a troll topic child. Get reported for Harassing. Have a nice day.
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EliteGuard99 posted...
Th9is isn't a troll topic child. Get reported for Harassing. Have a nice day. Just Ignore user, he's obviously not looking to hold a reasonable argument, not to say anything about his... Oddly incoherent quote specifying his life obsessions.
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Either get it or don't. None of this is worth arguing over. What a stupid thing to turn hostile about. Must be on gfaqs.
Trolling is not an etiquite issue. It is harassment.
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Not the biggest fan of Metroidvania games except Strider. And this was actually the 1st Nintendo game I was seriously interested in. Then the amiibo happened. Nope. Preorder cancelled.
Reinforcements? I am THE reinforcements.
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Wow, there's 4 different difficulty levels!!! That's awesome!!! How many did the piece of junk AM2r have?
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EliteGuard99 posted...
Th9is isn't a troll topic child. Get reported for Harassing. Have a nice day. If it is not a troll topic, then you're implying TC is stupid enough to be the kind of people thinking an art galleries is essential to a game and that someone will pay 12*4 bucks to unlock cosmetic bonuses. Everyone here knows that this kind of topic is made in the only purpose to upset actual metroid fans. No one on earth is stupid enough to believe that playing without the amiibo's bonuses is something making the experience somewhere incomplete.
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Meh, none of that extra stuff is of much importance to me, so I'll still be getting the game.
There's a mystery to be uncovered here, that's for sure. And I get the feeling the truth is beyond my wildest imagination.
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Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me.
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Absolutezero93 posted...
Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me. you're a slave to Nintendo
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6-19-7 posted...
It's not like you can still watch galleries on Metroid-dedicated wikias and listen to the soundtrack on YouTube. 6-19-7 posted... honyo29 posted...let's juat bury the metroid franchise for good. Maybe you should go report yourself.
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MushroomMuncher posted...
Hey at least you Europeans get a special edition. All we get is a f***ing CD. Thanks NOA. Not everyone will have the special edition.
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Absolutezero93 posted...
Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me. Yea, you're paying more than 50% of the pricetag of the game to get the fusion mode, because you can't buy the amiibo that unlocks it separately. It's nice to know though that because you have the money that you don't mind being taken advantage of by greedy corporations that only care about the number you're worth. |
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Herbette posted...
Everyone here knows that this kind of topic is made in the only purpose to upset actual metroid fans. If anyone is trolling in here, it's you.  (I'm too lazy to get all the other games, yeah I even bought the Other M piece of crap and I have the Limited Edition of Samus Returns on pre-order - 3 times in fact) Go annoy people somewhere else please. We are already getting annoyed by new-Nintendo.
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I'm still buying the game. Not gonna let a few bad decisions stop me from enjoying it.
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Braev posted...
Meh, none of that extra stuff is of much importance to me, so I'll still be getting the game. |
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jimi_dini posted...
Just like how you had to spend $140 (not counting GameCube and Metroid Prime itself) to get everything in Metroid Prime, or $140 (not counting GBA and Zero Mission itself) to get everything in Metroid: Zero Mission. Much higher than the extra $56 (or $76 if you have an old 3DS) you need to spend for the extras in this game. It sucks, but it really isn't something new, especially when the extras are all inconsequential to how the game itself is (and no, people do not play Metroid for its difficulty with enemies and bosses). MushroomMuncher posted... On second thought, why do we need the sound test if there's a CD in the special edition? Exactly. Why do we need a Sound Test if we have YouTube? Why do we need an Image Gallery if we have Imgur and Metroid wikis?
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I'll be getting the amiibo regardless, so .. sucks for the people that aren't. I'd love to see the hand written letters and emails that you guys have sent to nintendo. I .. I mean, you have sent them there right? Y-you aren't just coming onto an english speaking message board and complaining hoping to make any sort of meaningful change without actually getting into contact with the people who are producing the game. R-right? You didn't just come here directly r-right?
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I already have Zero Suit Samus and Smash Samus. I'm planning on grabbing the Samus Returns Amiibo anyway.
Even so, there are no trophies on 3DS, so no reason for me to care about difficulty being locked. I've also got a massive collection of Video Game artwork that I've been saving ever since I first got on the internet. My Metroid file alone probably has over 500 pictures. Soundtracks will be on Youtube for everyone to enjoy. I admit it is a pretty greasy move to lock content like that behind Amiibo, but it is easy to work around.
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jimi_dini posted...
We are already getting annoyed by new-Nintendo. You should know there is nothing "new" in those practices. Locking some cosmetic and unessential bonuses behind connected products is something with old occurrences. What is new is people being upset by it. When Metroid Prime get a full game locked as a bonus for those having a GBA, Metroid4 and a cable link, i honestly don't remember fans crying nor calling to boycott the game. Your experience on Samus Return will be globally the same, with or without amiibo. The game is complete, and the bonuses unlocked by amiibo are crappy, as usual. I'm personally glad that Metroid is coming back. I also know that it is a franchise needing some ambition to be great, but that will stay niche and won't sell millions. If Nintendo find a way to make consequential profits from the game with merchandising, i'm glad, because that just means i can hope a new metroid game before 2030. And i prefer ten thousands time an authentic metroid experience with some optional goodies, than a mainstreamed game trying to appeal everyone but old fans. |
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MrPerson01 posted...
jimi_dini posted... I forgot all about the convoluted way they had you get the Fusion suit in Prime. Yeah I'd rather pay for an amiibo twin pack than have to buy another game along with a different system to play it on.
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MrPerson01 posted...jimi_dini posted...
Let me repeat - on top of the limited edition price of 60 pounds, you need to spend another 44 pounds - so over 100 pounds - to get everything.
Just like how you had to spend $140 (not counting GameCube and Metroid Prime itself) to get everything in Metroid Prime, or $140 (not counting GBA and Zero Mission itself) to get everything in Metroid: Zero Mission. Much higher than the extra $56 (or $76 if you have an old 3DS) you need to spend for the extras in this game. It sucks, but it really isn't something new, especially when the extras are all inconsequential to how the game itself is (and no, people do not play Metroid for its difficulty with enemies and bosses).
Except the extras in Prime/Zero Mission were merely a small bonus you got if you just so happened to own other Metroid games.
Here they're locking a significant amount of content such as an entire difficulty mode behind what is essentially physical DLC,MrPerson01 posted...jimi_dini posted...
Let me repeat - on top of the limited edition price of 60 pounds, you need to spend another 44 pounds - so over 100 pounds - to get everything.
Just like how you had to spend $140 (not counting GameCube and Metroid Prime itself) to get everything in Metroid Prime
Original NES Metroid is not a part of Metroid Prime.
So the only thing that was really part of Metroid Prime was the Metroid Fusion Suit.
And guess what - I would be totally fine with Amiibos unlocking skins. As I already said.
An Amiibo unlocking original NES Metroid? Fine by me. Not part of the actual game. But instead they of course sell the NES Metroid separately.or $140 (not counting GBA and Zero Mission itself) to get everything in Metroid: Zero Mission.
Not the same at all.
You were able to unlock an additional Metroid FUSION gallery in Zero Mission in case you linked up with Metroid FUSION. Metroid FUSION was released around 1 1/2 years earlier.
Regular unlockables:
Gallery - after beating the game once
Hard Mode - beating the game
Original NES Metroid - beating the game
Sound Test - beating HARD mode
Time Attack Mode - by entering a code
See a small difference between Metroid Zero Mission and this game here?Exactly. Why do we need a Sound Test if we have YouTube? Why do we need an Image Gallery if we have Imgur and Metroid wikis?
Is this sarcasm?
Are you a millenial? What is wrong with you?
Why do we need an ending cutscene? We got youtube for that. Why do we need the game even? We can watch it on youtube instead.
Why do we need all bosses? We can watch those fights on youtube. Totally fine in case Nintendo locked bosses behind Amiibos too.
btw. it's also a music player. So the only excuse you can use is "but if someone ripped them from the game and uploaded them to youtube", which is piracy. The Special Edition soundtrack CD contains music from all sorts of Metroid games. There are literally 3 tracks from Samus Returns on it. Nothing more."On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer."
--Satoru Iwata, 1959-2015 R.I.P.(edited 2 weeks ago)As always, keep In mind that in most cases you're going to get multiple uses out of the Amiibo, not buy them specifically for one game.Visit This Old Neon - A friendly civilized gaming forum.jimi_dini posted...
Not the same at all.
You were able to unlock an additional Metroid FUSION gallery in Zero Mission in case you linked up with Metroid FUSION. Metroid FUSION was released around 1 1/2 years earlier.
It is most certainly the same. One of the amiibos unlocks the Metroid II art gallery, a game which was released nearly 26 years ago. However, you only need to spend $15 (or $30 since it only comes in a dual pack in North America) and maybe $20 if you have an old 3DS. Much cheaper than what was required to unlock the Fusion Suit, and still is cheaper when you include the two Smash amiibo.
You also conveniently forget that these amiibo will be compatible with future games, such as Metroid Prime 4. This was somewhat the case with Metroid Fusion if you used it for Prime, but you still needed to by a second GBA ($100) or a Game Boy Player ($50) to work as the second GBA to link with Zero Mission. No extra cost needed for the Switch.
jimi_dini posted...
Is this sarcasm?
Are you a millenial? What is wrong with you?
Why do we need an ending cutscene? We got youtube for that. Why do we need the game even? We can watch it on youtube instead.
Why do we need all bosses? We can watch those fights on youtube. Totally fine in case Nintendo locked bosses behind Amiibos too.
btw. it's also a music player. So the only excuse you can use is "but if someone ripped them from the game and uploaded them to youtube", which is piracy. The Special Edition soundtrack CD contains music from all sorts of Metroid games. There are literally 3 tracks from Samus Returns on it. Nothing more.
Ah, yes, people use their 3DS as a music player just like they did with their GBA. /s
Also, watching videos on YouTube is a completely different experience from playing the game itself. Listening to music on the 3DS or on YouTube? Nope.
jimi_dini posted...btw. it's also a music player. So the only excuse you can use is "but if someone ripped them from the game and uploaded them to youtube", which is piracy.
Going to ignore this comment since amiibo haters themselves are promoting piracy.(edited 2 weeks ago)" Let me repeat - on top of the limited edition price of60 pounds, you need to spend another44 pounds- so over 100 pounds - to get everything."
I'm not defending the use of amiibo in this game but I think that the cost of the amiibo should be spread across each game that you would use it on. The reg samus amiibo can be used in both smash games right? As well as Mario maker and there was a demo game for the Wii u(can't remember name), and this new game as well, so really the cost of it could really be split 5 ways more or less.Wii friend code 5224 8083 0118 6879
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jimi_dini posted...Gunpei Yokoi is rolling in his grave :/
FTFY
Like Iwata even gave a s***.
Yeah this certainly tends to be true of Nintendo fans. Nintendo can do no wrong and if you disagree you're *insert baseless and pointless insult here*
Locked on disc dlc was bad until Nintendo did it.
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We are already getting annoyed by new-Nintendo.
You should know there is nothing "new" in those practices. Locking some cosmetic and unessential bonuses behind connected products is something with old occurrences.
What is new is people being upset by it. When Metroid Prime get a full game locked as a bonus for those having a GBA, Metroid4 and a cable link, i honestly don't remember fans crying nor calling to boycott the game.
Your experience on Samus Return will be globally the same, with or without amiibo. The game is complete, and the bonuses unlocked by amiibo are crappy, as usual.
There are many differences between the Fusion mode in Samus Returns and the Fusion Suit mode in Prime. Prime's Fusion Suit was just a model swap, not a difficulty adjustment as well, so the general gameplay experience is the same regardless of the mode you're in. Plus, Prime is a First-Person game for the most part and you'll only be able to see the Samus' full model during cutscenes or when you're in Morph Ball mode.
While it is somewhat annoying to need extra stuff to unlock Prime's Fusion mode, needing to have a GBA and a copy of Metroid Fusion is very different to an amiibo, because a GBA can be used to play many different games and Fusion is a decent Metroid game, so if you're enough of a fan of the Fusion suit's design to want to use it in Prime then you'll probably already want or already own the game and a GBA regardless of it unlocking bonus content in Prime. The Metroid amiibo, however, is actually useful for only one thing right now, and unless you like collecting the figurines then you'll have no further use for it until it is used in some other game (Metroid Prime 4 needing it to unlock the Fusion suit in that game too?). What makes it all the more ridiculous is that you need 4 different amiibo just to unlock all the content in Samus Returns.
Personally, I don't like the idea of spending full price on a game that only contains 50-75% of the content that was initially made for it when I have to spend even more to get the rest. My enjoyment of the game will be limited with this knowledge in mind and I would definitely like to play the Fusion mode. I will probably buy Samus Returns at some point, but only when I see it for at least £10 cheaper than the normal price.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!I'm still getting the game and enjoy the amiibos. I ordered one from Fry's and received a notice recently stating I won't be getting it due to stock so this looks like a hard to find or scalp item. I'm only missing out on the new amiibos as I own all of the smash, Mario, yarn, mh stories, and animal crossing. I just have recently grown tired of it but this particular one is from a beloved franchise so I want it. Past that I'm done.
What was sad is my wife had to travel to a different GameStop five miles down the road because the one directly across the street had an employee that saw her asking for it and ran up and grabbed it saying it was on hold for someone that's been looking for it for five months. Same employee I saw grabbing five of the reissued gold Mario's and saying he's keeping them for eBay. Called another store and got the link but wow, that guy is serious scum. I'll buy it from a scalper for 40 if I have to but I hope it has some stock on release like the smash titles. We will see, they all ran out of pre order instantly for the smash player 2 series but still to this day I can find almost the entire zelda botw series at Target and every player 2 outside of corrin
If this was Amazon locked I'd be pissed. I just enjoy them because I sculpt and enjoy seeing you them, tho I agree with people for their frustrations. I will get the amiibo even from a scalper but I collect for my own enjoyment and don't care about the cost. For the average consumer, Iwata is truly rolling in his grave as it's been said. I liked the use in wooly world. O dislike their use in Metroid. I hope th game sells well, and the amiibo does not. Make it cheaper for me from scalper costs but Metroid is seen as viable. At least we are getting a reiteration of the series, and switch owners get mp4. I don't care about that as I will never buy the switchConceptual Artist and Avid GamerThis s*** USED to come with the game before.Ever since Nintendo started doing this amibo bulls***,they started removing standard things and locking them behind those stupid toys.And what's worst is if you dont own a N3DS,you gotta get some accessory or some s*** to be able to use those stupid toys.This might not be that big of a deal but it's a pretty f***ing stupid one.3DS FC:3394-3658-2611
Pokemon White 2 National Dex Completed:9/26/2013except developers specified that every single content that is unlocked by the amiibos wasnt on the original, and is extra, nothing lost there.Mariofan15 posted...This s*** USED to come with the game before.Ever since Nintendo started doing this amibo bulls***,they started removing standard things and locking them behind those stupid toys.And what's worst is if you dont own a N3DS,you gotta get some accessory or some s*** to be able to use those stupid toys.This might not be that big of a deal but it's a pretty f***ing stupid one.
im sorry i have the VC version of Metroid 2 samus return and soes not have any of those that you are claiming they come free with the game. unless theres a code or something that allows a version of samus that didnt exist in that game to appear there magically.kabutokouji posted...except developers specified that every single content that is unlocked by the amiibos wasnt on the original, and is extra, nothing lost there.
Stop defending s***ty practice. Even if it's extra, considering how hard it is to come by amiibos for a lot of us, we can't even get that "extra" goodies even if we begged Nintendo to take our moneys.Playing: LoH: Trails in the Sky The Third
PENGUINS! Get Trails in the Sky AS WELL AS COLD STEEL and support XSEED for their hard work!kabutokouji posted...except developers specified that every single content that is unlocked by the amiibos wasnt on the original, and is extra, nothing lost there.
Do you blindly believe everything a developer says? Of course they're going to tell customers that the content from Amiibos is entirely original and not cut out from the game to make more money.FC: 5112-4220-0277Mariofan15 posted...This s*** USED to come with the game before.Ever since Nintendo started doing this amibo bulls***,they started removing standard things and locking them behind those stupid toys.And what's worst is if you dont own a N3DS,you gotta get some accessory or some s*** to be able to use those stupid toys.This might not be that big of a deal but it's a pretty f***ing stupid one.
Please look at Metroid Prime and Metroid: Zero Mission. This is nothing new.MrPerson01 posted...Mariofan15 posted...
This s*** USED to come with the game before.Ever since Nintendo started doing this amibo bulls***,they started removing standard things and locking them behind those stupid toys.And what's worst is if you dont own a N3DS,you gotta get some accessory or some s*** to be able to use those stupid toys.This might not be that big of a deal but it's a pretty f***ing stupid one.
Please look at Metroid Prime and Metroid: Zero Mission. This is nothing new.
Not an excuse.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.PSA!!!! I'm buying it but won't be buying the amiibo. Damn that was such a hard decision...Want to see humanity at it's worst? Go online and read forums or comment pages!SymphonicGlory posted...kabutokouji posted...
except developers specified that every single content that is unlocked by the amiibos wasnt on the original, and is extra, nothing lost there.
Do you blindly believe everything a developer says? Of course they're going to tell customers that the content from Amiibos is entirely original and not cut out from the game to make more money.
Better than blindly assuming everyone is always lying because it conveniently supports your narrative.Trolling is not an etiquite issue. It is harassment.Why is this a PSA? Why is it not just stating it?lol everyone's is gonna be mad but whatever
I already have my preorder for ALL OF THE SAMUS RETURNS 3DS gear.
That means the system, the dual pack amiibos, AND the limited edition copy of the game.
Oh no I'm buying something that I worked really hard to get and most of you will say how can you fall prey to Nintendo ? Sorry I like work for my nice things lmfao. And even then, it's like 40 for the game and maybe 20ish for the amiibos. So in total that's about the cost of a console game. You guys really don't have that much money ? Some of y'all need to get real jobs and stop working at mcdees and jack in the box.
Lololol complaining about a company making money lmfao I guess that must be news to everyone
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3DS XL FC 5086-5294-6678 ign (alpha) kev (PSN- the_otsutsuki)What bothers me about it isn't the extra cost. Its that it requires the physical amiibo. That means even if they wanted to buy it, a lot of people will not be able to. They never make enough amiibos. So a lot of people are going to be upset, and justifiably so.Friend Code: 2707-2146-0610
Ditto, Kecleon, LillipupSolibrae posted...Herbette posted...
jimi_dini posted...
We are already getting annoyed by new-Nintendo.
You should know there is nothing "new" in those practices. Locking some cosmetic and unessential bonuses behind connected products is something with old occurrences.
What is new is people being upset by it. When Metroid Prime get a full game locked as a bonus for those having a GBA, Metroid4 and a cable link, i honestly don't remember fans crying nor calling to boycott the game.
Your experience on Samus Return will be globally the same, with or without amiibo. The game is complete, and the bonuses unlocked by amiibo are crappy, as usual.
There are many differences between the Fusion mode in Samus Returns and the Fusion Suit mode in Prime. Prime's Fusion Suit was just a model swap, not a difficulty adjustment as well, so the general gameplay experience is the same regardless of the mode you're in. Plus, Prime is a First-Person game for the most part and you'll only be able to see the Samus' full model during cutscenes or when you're in Morph Ball mode.
While it is somewhat annoying to need extra stuff to unlock Prime's Fusion mode, needing to have a GBA and a copy of Metroid Fusion is very different to an amiibo, because a GBA can be used to play many different games and Fusion is a decent Metroid game, so if you're enough of a fan of the Fusion suit's design to want to use it in Prime then you'll probably already want or already own the game and a GBA regardless of it unlocking bonus content in Prime. The Metroid amiibo, however, is actually useful for only one thing right now, and unless you like collecting the figurines then you'll have no further use for it until it is used in some other game (Metroid Prime 4 needing it to unlock the Fusion suit in that game too?). What makes it all the more ridiculous is that you need 4 different amiibo just to unlock all the content in Samus Returns.
Personally, I don't like the idea of spending full price on a game that only contains 50-75% of the content that was initially made for it when I have to spend even more to get the rest. My enjoyment of the game will be limited with this knowledge in mind and I would definitely like to play the Fusion mode. I will probably buy Samus Returns at some point, but only when I see it for at least £10 cheaper than the normal price.
Remind that we know literally nothing about the "fusion mode". We suspect it will be an "hard mode" with a new skin, but considering what is the usual hard mode in metroid game, everyone could agree that nothing important is locked here. Also, we have no clue about the absence of an actual hard mode in the base game.
In resume, being upset for made up suppositions about something totally useless.
The feeling you have about the amiibo locking "25 to 50 %" of the game content is totally fantasist. Like the hype you have to play in Fusion mode, that's totally dependent on you, and is nothing relevant to the game itself.
We shall keep in mind that those contents are bonuses for amiibo owners, not something supposed to make you bought useless and unwanted pieces of plastic.
You're totally wrong at thinking the Metroid amiibo "is actually useful for only one thing right now", and that thing would be unlocking whatever content. Like every other amiibo it is a merchandising figurine, people will buy it to collect dust, like any other figurine.
I'm sorry for them, but people stupid enough to pay 12 or 15 bucks only to unlock a skin or even a "hard" mode, deserve to be scammed by Nintendo and every greedy company in earth. They could be upset, but as soon as they would be able to some basic introspection, they would realize they are upset from their own lack of discern.(edited 1 week ago)SpinoRaptor24 posted...6-19-7 posted...
PSA = Pretty Stupid Attempt (at trolling)
Posting facts is trolling, kid?
posting wrong information is.PSN: Akiradeviruman
quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.LOL at anyone comparing this to Prime/Fusion.
1. They were separate games on separate platforms with separate libraries. The only "additional purchase" was the link cable.
2. The unlocks were the Fusion Suit in Prime and Metroid 1 in Fusion. That was it. Hard Mode, concept art, and sound tests weren't hidden behind anything else. You got those the way you do in every other game out there: by PLAYING THE DAMN GAME.
How many more of your principles are you people going to turn your backs on before you realize that you've turned Nintendo into the very thing you've spent the last decade despising? Yearly $60 roster updates for the mascots? Achievement systems? Grimdark FPS? David Cage knockoffs? How many of those will you handwave because it's Nintendo doing it when they start happening?
"They'll never be stupid enough to do that, Nintendo knows better!"
I thought that before too. Lots of us did. Then amiibos happened, and bad DLC practices happened, and day one patches happened, and gimped launches happened, and paid online happened. Over and over and over again. And it was met with a murmur and a whisper at best, and adoration at worst. This is your fault, guys. YOU did this.
Absolutezero93 posted...Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me.
More than the cost of the game itself is "just a few bucks." Right.DavCube posted...LOL at anyone comparing this to Prime/Fusion.
1. They were separate games on separate platforms with separate libraries. The only "additional purchase" was the link cable.
2. The unlocks were the Fusion Suit in Prime and Metroid 1 in Fusion. That was it. Hard Mode, concept art, and sound tests weren't hidden behind anything else. You got those the way you do in every other game out there: by PLAYING THE DAMN GAME.
How many more of your principles are you people going to turn your backs on before you realize that you've turned Nintendo into the very thing you've spent the last decade despising? Yearly $60 roster updates for the mascots? Achievement systems? Grimdark FPS? David Cage knockoffs? How many of those will you handwave because it's Nintendo doing it when they start happening?
"They'll never be stupid enough to do that, Nintendo knows better!"
I thought that before too. Lots of us did. Then amiibos happened, and bad DLC practices happened, and day one patches happened, and gimped launches happened, and paid online happened. Over and over and over again. And it was met with a murmur and a whisper at best, and adoration at worst. This is your fault, guys. YOU did this.
Absolutezero93 posted...Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me.
More than the cost of the game itself is "just a few bucks." Right.
THANK YOU! I think Nintendrones have lost any justification they had in bashing Sony/MS when Nintendo this past gen has been doing the same things. Theyre a bunch of hypocrites.Check out my channel!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5E9xNR20EnKQTF6UFU6XQcd125 posted...lol everyone's is gonna be mad but whatever
I already have my preorder for ALL OF THE SAMUS RETURNS 3DS gear.
That means the system, the dual pack amiibos, AND the limited edition copy of the game.
Oh no I'm buying something that I worked really hard to get and most of you will say how can you fall prey to Nintendo ? Sorry I like work for my nice things lmfao. And even then, it's like 40 for the game and maybe 20ish for the amiibos. So in total that's about the cost of a console game. You guys really don't have that much money ? Some of y'all need to get real jobs and stop working at mcdees and jack in the box.
Lololol complaining about a company making money lmfao I guess that must be news to everyone
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"LolOloL i'm a silly man child who bought each and every piece of trash Nintendo's shoveling with this game.
Why u guys so poor? I work very hard for the purpose of collecting s*** quality kid toys LMFAO, it's a clear show of wealth and superiority loOlLLoL. Stop gettin mad at company locking standard features behind overpiced mcdees toys...LOlooooolLLLLLL"Nobn posted...cd125 posted...
lol everyone's is gonna be mad but whatever
I already have my preorder for ALL OF THE SAMUS RETURNS 3DS gear.
That means the system, the dual pack amiibos, AND the limited edition copy of the game.
Oh no I'm buying something that I worked really hard to get and most of you will say how can you fall prey to Nintendo ? Sorry I like work for my nice things lmfao. And even then, it's like 40 for the game and maybe 20ish for the amiibos. So in total that's about the cost of a console game. You guys really don't have that much money ? Some of y'all need to get real jobs and stop working at mcdees and jack in the box.
Lololol complaining about a company making money lmfao I guess that must be news to everyone
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"LolOloL i'm a silly man child who bought each and every piece of trash Nintendo's shoveling with this game.
Why u guys so poor? I work very hard for the purpose of collecting s*** quality kid toys LMFAO, it's a clear show of wealth and superiority loOlLLoL. Stop gettin mad at company locking standard features behind overpiced mcdees toys...LOlooooolLLLLLL"
People like you Hahahahahahaha it's not my fault you can't go get your bachelors degree. It's no my fault everyone else can't afford things for games. Sure you don't need them but that's the point of having a job. Being able to get things you WANT. So what if an extra hard mode is locked behind your amiibo ? Oh no big deal. If you were that worried about if from the beginning then you would have pre ordered one already. But instead I just see a bunch of whiners complaining about an amiibo. Lmfao sure ninty is dumb for locking things behind amiibos but uhm they are a business..business gonna make money regardless of what you guys think. Just sayin3DS FC 3024-9299-0628 ign (omega) kev
3DS XL FC 5086-5294-6678 ign (alpha) kev (PSN- the_otsutsuki)cd125 posted...Nobn posted...
cd125 posted...
lol everyone's is gonna be mad but whatever
I already have my preorder for ALL OF THE SAMUS RETURNS 3DS gear.
That means the system, the dual pack amiibos, AND the limited edition copy of the game.
Oh no I'm buying something that I worked really hard to get and most of you will say how can you fall prey to Nintendo ? Sorry I like work for my nice things lmfao. And even then, it's like 40 for the game and maybe 20ish for the amiibos. So in total that's about the cost of a console game. You guys really don't have that much money ? Some of y'all need to get real jobs and stop working at mcdees and jack in the box.
Lololol complaining about a company making money lmfao I guess that must be news to everyone
Blog FAQs
"LolOloL i'm a silly man child who bought each and every piece of trash Nintendo's shoveling with this game.
Why u guys so poor? I work very hard for the purpose of collecting s*** quality kid toys LMFAO, it's a clear show of wealth and superiority loOlLLoL. Stop gettin mad at company locking standard features behind overpiced mcdees toys...LOlooooolLLLLLL"
People like you Hahahahahahaha it's not my fault you can't go get your bachelors degree. It's no my fault everyone else can't afford things for games. Sure you don't need them but that's the point of having a job. Being able to get things you WANT. So what if an extra hard mode is locked behind your amiibo ? Oh no big deal. If you were that worried about if from the beginning then you would have pre ordered one already. But instead I just see a bunch of whiners complaining about an amiibo. Lmfao sure ninty is dumb for locking things behind amiibos but uhm they are a business..business gonna make money regardless of what you guys think. Just sayin
Why not hide every part of the game behind a paywall then? Every item, every pickup, every area, every boss, sink another few dollars in. I mean clearly only the most privileged deserve to play it, right? That's the logic that you're using here. "They need to make money, so literally anything they do is okay." Except no, it's not. It is our JOB as consumers to tell them what's fair and what's not, not to sit there and accept everything they do as the "new normal."Fusion is in between Normal and Hard.Kirby: Planet Robobot is the best Star Fox game ever.DavCube posted...cd125 posted...
Nobn posted...
cd125 posted...
lol everyone's is gonna be mad but whatever
I already have my preorder for ALL OF THE SAMUS RETURNS 3DS gear.
That means the system, the dual pack amiibos, AND the limited edition copy of the game.
Oh no I'm buying something that I worked really hard to get and most of you will say how can you fall prey to Nintendo ? Sorry I like work for my nice things lmfao. And even then, it's like 40 for the game and maybe 20ish for the amiibos. So in total that's about the cost of a console game. You guys really don't have that much money ? Some of y'all need to get real jobs and stop working at mcdees and jack in the box.
Lololol complaining about a company making money lmfao I guess that must be news to everyone
Blog FAQs
"LolOloL i'm a silly man child who bought each and every piece of trash Nintendo's shoveling with this game.
Why u guys so poor? I work very hard for the purpose of collecting s*** quality kid toys LMFAO, it's a clear show of wealth and superiority loOlLLoL. Stop gettin mad at company locking standard features behind overpiced mcdees toys...LOlooooolLLLLLL"
People like you Hahahahahahaha it's not my fault you can't go get your bachelors degree. It's no my fault everyone else can't afford things for games. Sure you don't need them but that's the point of having a job. Being able to get things you WANT. So what if an extra hard mode is locked behind your amiibo ? Oh no big deal. If you were that worried about if from the beginning then you would have pre ordered one already. But instead I just see a bunch of whiners complaining about an amiibo. Lmfao sure ninty is dumb for locking things behind amiibos but uhm they are a business..business gonna make money regardless of what you guys think. Just sayin
Why not hide every part of the game behind a paywall then? Every item, every pickup, every area, every boss, sink another few dollars in. I mean clearly only the most privileged deserve to play it, right? That's the logic that you're using here. "They need to make money, so literally anything they do is okay." Except no, it's not. It is our JOB as consumers to tell them what's fair and what's not, not to sit there and accept everything they do as the "new normal."
Then why are amiibos a thing ? If it is YOUR job as consumers to deem what's fair then NOONE would purchase amiibos that lock game content. How many games make you pay for skins or guns you like to use ? How many games make you purchase dlc characters ? Ninty did the same thing with the amiibos as "dlc" but that doesn't seem fair to everyone ? Sure it would be cool to have everything available in game but look at all the other games that are doing it. Ninty will follow suit EVERYTIME. They are indeed a business after all and the other video games in the business have items as pay only. So everyone here who has purchased any kind of dlc is wrong ? Simply because you have to PAY for it ? It should be free right ? That house you live in, does it run on fairness or electricity ?3DS FC 3024-9299-0628 ign (omega) kev
3DS XL FC 5086-5294-6678 ign (alpha) kev (PSN- the_otsutsuki)DavCube posted...Why not hide every part of the game behind a paywall then? Every item, every pickup, every area, every boss, sink another few dollars in.
Oh, please. Stop acting like if some art galleries, a skin or even a dull hard mode was something consistent you need to buy for having a complete experience.
Nothing consistent is "locked behind a paywall". If you absolutely want to play with a fusion skin that is your problem, and if you feel not complete until you can have it, then, yes you deserve to be milked.
Amiibo are a good compromise if that kind of merchandising is able to make profitable enough a niche franchise. They are not altering your gaming experience, and no one is asking you to buy them.
You "Job", as a consumer, should be to have some perspective about your own usages. If you really feel an urge to unlock every skin or gallery possible in every game, the problem is you, not the game.
Merchandising like amiibo is a very good way to make profit from a game without altering its content by mainstreaming it. The new "normal" is we have a 2d metroid game again. You probably prefer the "old normal" with no game, or FedForce like attempts.As bad as microtransactions. And people gave Shadow of War crap. Even though they keep claiming that everything is unlockable normally. This on the other hand, REQUIRES you to buy little figurines at $12 for one and $30 for the double pack assuming you can find them. Nintendo isn't the golden boy people seem to think they are.3DS FC: 2466-2889-3929 PSN ID: BladeGash XBL: RedHoodLantern
When John Ruth catches you... You Hang.People should wait for someone to make Amiibo cards. They're cheaper and they work just as well as the figures. A full set of all Legend of Zelda cards only ran me $40. METROID ones will probably be around $20-$30.3DS FC: 2466-2889-3929 PSN ID: BladeGash XBL: RedHoodLantern
When John Ruth catches you... You Hang.MEFreak1984 posted...This on the other hand, REQUIRES you to buy little figurines at $12
lol.It's so very interesting seeing the same points reiterated over and over with increasing hostility over something factually not worth fighting over. So very interesting. I'm so glad to see this continue for days on end.Trolling is not an etiquite issue. It is harassment._Candice_ posted...DavCube posted...
LOL at anyone comparing this to Prime/Fusion.
1. They were separate games on separate platforms with separate libraries. The only "additional purchase" was the link cable.
2. The unlocks were the Fusion Suit in Prime and Metroid 1 in Fusion. That was it. Hard Mode, concept art, and sound tests weren't hidden behind anything else. You got those the way you do in every other game out there: by PLAYING THE DAMN GAME.
How many more of your principles are you people going to turn your backs on before you realize that you've turned Nintendo into the very thing you've spent the last decade despising? Yearly $60 roster updates for the mascots? Achievement systems? Grimdark FPS? David Cage knockoffs? How many of those will you handwave because it's Nintendo doing it when they start happening?
"They'll never be stupid enough to do that, Nintendo knows better!"
I thought that before too. Lots of us did. Then amiibos happened, and bad DLC practices happened, and day one patches happened, and gimped launches happened, and paid online happened. Over and over and over again. And it was met with a murmur and a whisper at best, and adoration at worst. This is your fault, guys. YOU did this.
Absolutezero93 posted...Thank god I'm not f***ing poor that a few extra bucks for a series I really like upsets me.
More than the cost of the game itself is "just a few bucks." Right.
THANK YOU! I think Nintendrones have lost any justification they had in bashing Sony/MS when Nintendo this past gen has been doing the same things. Theyre a bunch of hypocrites.
Same thing? No. They've actually surpassed Sony/MS in s***ty practices simply because of the fact that not only are games going to have DLCs via amiibos, but amiibos will be hard to find, so not everyone will even get to fork out their cash for Nintendo's s***ty DLC practice. At least everyone has access to whatever s***ty DLC Sony or Microsoft or third party developers throw at us.Playing: LoH: Trails in the Sky The Third
PENGUINS! Get Trails in the Sky AS WELL AS COLD STEEL and support XSEED for their hard work!(edited 1 week ago)DavCube posted...1. They were separate games on separate platforms with separate libraries. The only "additional purchase" was the link cable.
You are assuming that everyone who had Prime had a GBA and Fusion as well. This definitely was not the case, especially with Prime completely outselling Fusion.
DavCube posted...2. The unlocks were the Fusion Suit in Prime and Metroid 1 in Fusion. That was it. Hard Mode, concept art, and sound tests weren't hidden behind anything else. You got those the way you do in every other game out there: by PLAYING THE DAMN GAME.
Prime only had a single unlockable Hard Mode. Guess what, Samus Returns does as well! Prime did indeed have an unlockable Image Gallery, and it didn't have a Sound Test.
Also like how you conveniently ignored the Zero Mission-Fusion link unlockable (a Fusion Image Gallery), which requires you to at the very least buy a second GBA and a link cable.
waterdeepchu posted...What bothers me about it isn't the extra cost. Its that it requires the physical amiibo. That means even if they wanted to buy it, a lot of people will not be able to. They never make enough amiibos. So a lot of people are going to be upset, and justifiably so.
Do you have any proof that this is guaranteed to happen?
https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/us/po/browse/subcategory.jsp?categoryId=cat860034
Last time I checked, both the Samus and ZSS Smash Bros. amiibos are still readily in stock. Also, the new Metroid Dual Pack has been coming back on and off at Best Buy for pre-order according to nowinstock:
https://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/games/amiibo/metroid/
DavCube posted...Why not hide every part of the game behind a paywall then? Every item, every pickup, every area, every boss, sink another few dollars in. I mean clearly only the most privileged deserve to play it, right? That's the logic that you're using here. "They need to make money, so literally anything they do is okay." Except no, it's not. It is our JOB as consumers to tell them what's fair and what's not, not to sit there and accept everything they do as the "new normal."
I think this is what the amiibo haters seem to ignore. Samus Returns is completely playable to its full extent without the use of amiibo. The things it unlocks are literally extras which literally do not add to the enjoyment of the game. People do not play Metroid for its difficulty with enemies and bosses, they do not play it to unlock a Sound Test (that will always be readily available on the Internet), and they do not play it to unlock an Image Gallery (that will always be readily available on the Internet).(edited 1 week ago)MEFreak1984 posted...People should wait for someone to make Amiibo cards. They're cheaper and they work just as well as the figures. A full set of all Legend of Zelda cards only ran me $40. METROID ones will probably be around $20-$30.
Got one too. It made BotW even more fun.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.cd125 posted...Then why are amiibos a thing ? If it is YOUR job as consumers to deem what's fair then NOONE would purchase amiibos that lock game content. How many games make you pay for skins or guns you like to use ? How many games make you purchase dlc characters ? Ninty did the same thing with the amiibos as "dlc" but that doesn't seem fair to everyone? Sure it would be cool to have everything available in game but look at all the other games that are doing it. Ninty will follow suit EVERYTIME. They are indeed a business after all and the other video games in the business have items as pay only. So everyone here who has purchased any kind of dlc is wrong? Simply because you have to PAY for it? It should be free right?
Fans were making it out to be Nintendo's prerogative to stand AGAINST those practices by not doing them before now. That is exactly the problem. It wasn't okay when everyone else did it, but now "Oh, everyone else is doing it, so it's okay that Nintendo does it too." Double-standards over and over again. I didn't buy costume packs for Capcom games, and I didn't buy costume packs for Nintendo games. Simple.
I also like how everybody is paring this back to JUST the Fusion Suit skin and comparing it to costume packs (which you guys were also perfectly fine with in Smash 4, by the way) in order to avoid all the rest of the data related to this. Name me one game, ONE GAME, that locks art galleries or sound tests behind additional paywalls.
And it all comes back to "But it's still a complete experience without them!" Which brings me back to my original point. How far will those goal posts be pushed over time, in order to still call a game "complete?" How deep will that rabbit hole go? Maybe, just maybe, in order to turn around the state of the industry, developers should stop being complicit and taking the easy way out and start finding ways to actually be frugal with how they make games again. Nintendo has been nothing BUT frugal with their development this last generation, done nothing but profit from it, and they're STILL resorting to these scams. What does that say?*Pre-ordered the Special Edition of the 3DS game as well as the Amiibos.*
https://i.imgflip.com/xjhid.jpgI AM ERROR.@Lhunthangion posted...*Pre-ordered the Special Edition of the 3DS game as well as the Amiibos.*
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I AM ERROR.DavCube posted...And it all comes back to "But it's still a complete experience without them!" Which brings me back to my original point. How far will those goal posts be pushed over time, in order to still call a game "complete?" How deep will that rabbit hole go? Maybe, just maybe, in order to turn around the state of the industry, developers should stop being complicit and taking the easy way out and start finding ways to actually be frugal with how they make games again. Nintendo has been nothing BUT frugal with their development this last generation, done nothing but profit from it, and they're STILL resorting to these scams. What does that say?
Ok. Let's pretend a second that a game is not complete if you don't have an art gallery. Let's also pretend to ignore that most games do not have art gallery but are still considered complete (and don't laugh at the evocation of the "double standard"). I'm trying to understand your position.
But then, if merchandising is a scam, what is your proposition to make metroid games profitable?
Because we can't pretend to ignore that if we had to wait fourteen (14) years since the last 2d metroid, it is because metroid games don't sell well and are not that profitable, especially in a context where ambitious games cost more and more to product.
I can pretend to understand why you're mad to be forced to pay some dozens of buck more to unlock an art gallery and a sound test, so you can be finally satisfied with a complete experience, but can you admit that the vast majority of players just don't care about those features?
I get your rant, but what is your solution?MrPerson01 posted...The things it unlocks are literally extras which literally do not add to the enjoyment of the game
A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now? If it were just the gallery and soundtest locked behind amiibo, it'd still be lame, nothing to get truly angry for, but an ENTIRE GAME MODE being locked behind a limited stock item is not ok.
People crucified Bethesda over their $5 horse armor. People are absolutely livid over the bulls*** micro-transactions in Shadow of War, a primarily single player game. Yet Nintendo decides to lock out a difficulty mode to a limited supply physical object and people are not only fine with it, but praising Nintendo for it... I used to be a Nintendo fanboy, but damn do I not want to be associated with people like thatKira_Elric2 posted...MrPerson01 posted...
The things it unlocks are literally extras which literally do not add to the enjoyment of the game
A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now? If it were just the gallery and soundtest locked behind amiibo, it'd still be lame, nothing to get truly angry for, but an ENTIRE GAME MODE being locked behind a limited stock item is not ok.
People crucified Bethesda over their $5 horse armor. People are absolutely livid over the bulls*** micro-transactions in Shadow of War, a primarily single player game. Yet Nintendo decides to lock out a difficulty mode to a limited supply physical object and people are not only fine with it, but praising Nintendo for it... I used to be a Nintendo fanboy, but damn do I not want to be associated with people like that
This is why such a vicious argument is stupid. Whether or not the hard mode matters is entirely in the eye of the individual player. If you don't care about hard mode and are happy without it, that's nothing to put someone down for. Likewise if they feel it is that important and a justifiable reason to be upset. But gfaqs people are so obsessed with tearing into each other over anything that they turn a simple difference of opinion into an increasingly hostile argument that rages on for days on end.Trolling is not an etiquite issue. It is harassment.(edited 1 week ago)Kira_Elric2 posted...A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now?
Errr... Did you ever played a hard mode on a metroid game?
What kind of enjoyment it added to your experience, seriously?
And the usual hard mode is on the game. An additional mode, is literally a bonus.
All this energy spent in vain at whining because the most hardcore fans will be allowed to unlock some useless bonuses through merchandising toys, should be directed to ask for an actual hard mode.
I mean, from people who really care about an hard mode in their games.- Boards
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Herbette posted...Kira_Elric2 posted...
A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now?
Errr... Did you ever played a hard mode on a metroid game?
What kind of enjoyment it added to your experience, seriously?
And the usual hard mode is on the game. An additional mode, is literally a bonus.
Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
You've honestly just made yourself look pretty ignorant with that comment.SpinoRaptor24 posted...Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
You've honestly just made yourself look pretty ignorant with that comment.
Then try to explain why we should be satisfied with the way hard mode is managed in metroid games?
The difficult part on metroid games, especially the 2d ones, have never been how resistant the enemies are. Actually defending that and calling other ignorant is pretty rich.SpinoRaptor24 posted...Herbette posted...
Kira_Elric2 posted...
A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now?
Errr... Did you ever played a hard mode on a metroid game?
What kind of enjoyment it added to your experience, seriously?
And the usual hard mode is on the game. An additional mode, is literally a bonus.
Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
You've honestly just made yourself look pretty ignorant with that comment.
Don't bother with Herbette. They will blindly defend Nintendo's nonsense with some pretty ridiculous excuses all while hand waving away anything you say.FC: 5112-4220-0277SymphonicGlory posted...They will blindly defend Nintendo's nonsense with some pretty ridiculous excuses all while hand waving away anything you say.
Sure. Stating that Nintendo is used to give us lazy and dull modes labeled "hard" is a blind defense of their nonsense.
Meanwhile, being satisfied with a petty modification changing nothing to the gameplay and suddenly considering it as an essential part of any game, is educated criticism.
Mkay...
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They will blindly defend Nintendo's nonsense with some pretty ridiculous excuses all while hand waving away anything you say.
Sure. Stating that Nintendo is used to give us lazy and dull modes labeled "hard" is a blind defense of their nonsense.
Meanwhile, being satisfied with a petty modification changing nothing to the gameplay and suddenly considering it as an essential part of any game, is educated criticism.
Mkay...
Being able to unlock extras has been an essential part of games for decades. Beating and/or completing a game and expecting something to unlock, small or large, is a long-established standard. Hiding those same kind of unlocks behind day-one paywalls is not a proper evolution of that standard.
Should the inevitable Luigi campaign of the next Mario game be held back? Should the postgame of Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon, or their RPGs as a whole for that matter, be held back?(edited 1 week ago)SpinoRaptor24 posted...Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
You've honestly just made yourself look pretty ignorant with that comment.
Last I checked, the only 2D Metroid with a hard mode in NA and EU is Zero Mission... (JP Fusion had a difficulty selection, but none of the other versions did).DavCube posted...Being able to unlock extras has been an essential part of games for decades. Beating and/or completing a game and expecting something to unlock, small or large, is a long-established standard. Hiding those same kind of unlocks behind day-one paywalls is not a proper evolution of that standard.
Should the inevitable Luigi campaign of the next Mario game be held back? Should the postgame of Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon, or their RPGs as a whole for that matter, be held back?
Ok, but how that it is relevant?
First, being happy to unlock an hard mode does not magically make this mode better.
Second, good news, hard mode is unlocked just by beating the game.
Pretending that the "Fusion mode" (that we know nothing about it, but we can rationaly guess it would be more resistant enemies giving more damages) is something as important than a post game phase in a rpg is just promoting Nintendo lazyness.
Honestly, i would be glad if the amiibo was unlocking something consistent, something new and fresh improving the user experience. I would understand why some would be upset to not being able to profit from this mode, but i would be glad Nintendo finally give some attention to hard mode (like they did with BotW).
But this is absolutely not the case.The fact of the matter is difficulty modes were rarely paywalled before. Why start now? And if you are going to defend that then like another user said why not keep supermissiles, suits and other such upgrades behind a paywall too? They havent much further to go till most of the game is locked behind payment and red tape.
DLC has already set its precedent in Nintendo. They start charging for one inane thing and the next thing you know the rest of their games start catching on. The first major offenders were Fire Emblem. Now Metroid. And next thing you know, Mario Odyssey will charge you to unlock stars/sprites or whatever other metric of completion it will have just because Nintendo can do it. And still, people here will go through the mental gymnastics of justifying that because the privilege to pay their mother company is more worth it than the time spent playing the actual gameCheck out my channel!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5E9xNR20EnKQTF6UFU6XQ(edited 1 week ago)_Candice_ posted...The fact of the matter is difficulty modes were rarely paywalled before. Why start now? And if you are going to defend that then like another user said why not keep supermissiles, suits and other such upgrades behind a paywall too? They havent much further to go till most of the game is locked behind payment and red tape.
DLC has already set its precedent in Nintendo. They start charging for one inane thing and the next thing you know the rest of their games start catching on. The first major offenders were Fire Emblem. Now Metroid. And next thing you know, Mario Odyssey will charge you to unlock stars/sprites or whatever other metric of completion it will have just because Nintendo can do it. And still, people here will go through the mental gymnastics of justifying that because the privilege to pay their mother company is more worth it than the time spent playing the actual game
It's not going to be the common theme though. Locking important content behind DLC will not be a trend setter. I will quit gaming if that becomes the case.I'd hope people hold themselves to that.Check out my channel!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK5E9xNR20EnKQTF6UFU6XQKira_Elric2 posted...A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now?
Please give me a list of video games people judge on their harder difficulties and not their normal difficulties. Also, please give me a list of Metroid fans who actually care about completing the game on hard mode.
Kira_Elric2 posted...If it were just the gallery and soundtest locked behind amiibo, it'd still be lame, nothing to get truly angry for, but an ENTIRE GAME MODE being locked behind a limited stock item is not ok.
Hard Mode is not, and never will be, an entirely new game mode for Metroid. Samus takes more damage from hits, and dishes out less damage. In Zero Mission and Japanese Fusion, you also got less Missiles/Power Bombs/Energy from expansions. If you want the exact same difficulty, you literally just need to do a no-expansion run of Normal (or Hard) Mode. Coincidentally, this is exactly what Other M's "Hard Mode" was.
Kira_Elric2 posted...People crucified Bethesda over their $5 horse armor. People are absolutely livid over the bulls*** micro-transactions in Shadow of War, a primarily single player game. Yet Nintendo decides to lock out a difficulty mode to a limited supply physical object and people are not only fine with it, but praising Nintendo for it... I used to be a Nintendo fanboy, but damn do I not want to be associated with people like that
Who says that I am praising Nintendo for this? Stop trying to twist the facts. I showed how Nintendo has done this before, so it just shouldn't be surprising for them to do it again. The haters need to get over it, especially when they didn't hate on it back then. I am also curious as to how many of these haters have played Metroid fans since they seem to hold "Hard Mode" on top of some pedestal or something.
SpinoRaptor24 posted...Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
...lol, are you kidding? Any% speedruns of Metroid games are always done on Normal Mode, not Hard Mode, at least, in recent years where World Records for Prime and Prime 2 have been broken. Hard Mode does not save time whatsoever, especially since all it does is makes Samus 50% weaker or so. Also, take a look at Zero Mission's Time Attack mode. It's only on Normal Mode.
DavCube posted...Should the inevitable Luigi campaign of the next Mario game be held back? Should the postgame of Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon, or their RPGs as a whole for that matter, be held back?
Since when is a postgame in an RPG = Hard Mode in a Metroid game?(edited 1 week ago)MrPerson01 posted...DavCube posted...
Should the inevitable Luigi campaign of the next Mario game be held back? Should the postgame of Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon, or their RPGs as a whole for that matter, be held back?
Since when is a postgame in an RPG = Hard Mode in a Metroid game?
It's all bonus stuff on top of a "complete" experience, so according to these fanboys such things are fair game for us to pay extra.DavCube posted...It's all bonus stuff on top of a "complete" experience, so according to these fanboys such things are fair game for us to pay extra.
Hard Mode is never required as a staple for a complete experience for Metroid...look at Metroid, Metroid II, Super Metroid, and Metroid Fusion. And even then, we already have Hard Mode, which, so far, has normally been the hardest difficulty in any Metroid game.Should have seen things like these coming when Kimishima blatantly said he didn't like how most people were buying Amiibo just to collect, and he wanted Nintendo to make Amiibo more "useful".
Zelda locking that ridiculous Master Mode and QoL features behind a paywall was already a******-ish. Imagine if they did that with Amiibo, which are DLC in physical form, but prone to be scalped, hard to find, and with prices that escalate tremendously outside North America and Japan."You got a lot to learn before you beat me.
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Anyone who calls for the boycott of this game is a traitor to the Metroid franchise. Just boycott the amiibo (assuming it's readily available like the Alm+Celica dual pack), not the game.(edited 1 week ago)MrPerson01 posted...Metroid Fusion.
Fusion did have a JPN-exclusive hard mode, and it was much more tense and fun than the basic game. A shame it was locked behind NG+.And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.What is "Metroid Returns"??Xbox Live Gamertag: TheSystemFailed
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Anyone who calls for the boycott of this game is a traitor to the Metroid franchise. Just boycott the amiibo (assuming it's readily available like the Alm+Celica dual pack), not the game.
No, I won't be held hostage to Nintendo's bulls*** policies just to save a franchise, no matter how much I like it. If they want it to sell well, they shouldn't be screwing over their consumers.FC: 5112-4220-0277Salocool posted...Fusion did have a JPN-exclusive hard mode, and it was much more tense and fun than the basic game. A shame it was locked behind NG+.
Yes, which is something that 89% (according to sales) of the world didn't get to experience.
SymphonicGlory posted...No, I won't be held hostage to Nintendo's bulls*** policies just to save a franchise, no matter how much I like it. If they want it to sell well, they shouldn't be screwing over their consumers.
Don't get how they are screwing over their customers if Metroid fans never cared about an Image Gallery, Sound Test, or Ultra-Hard Mode (supposedly) that never existed in Metroid, Metroid II, Super Metroid, or non-Japan Metroid Fusion. Coincidentally, these four 2D Metroid games did far better than the 2D Metroid that actually did have Hard Mode, (Ending only) Image Gallery, and Sound Test.(edited 1 week ago)The difference is, those games didn't have Hard Modes, Art Galleries and Music Players made for the game that were then locked behind amiibo. I wouldn't care if those modes didn't exist in Samus Returns at all, I do care that they've been made and put in to the game card, then made inaccessible to everyone who doesn't want to spend even more money on extra stuff.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!Solibrae posted...The difference is, those games didn't have Hard Modes, Art Galleries and Music Players made for the game that were then locked behind amiibo.
Pretty sure it shows that the Metroid fanbase just doesn't care about those extras when it didn't affect their interest in previous 2D games whatsoever.MrPerson01 posted...Solibrae posted...
The difference is, those games didn't have Hard Modes, Art Galleries and Music Players made for the game that were then locked behind amiibo.
Pretty sure it shows that the Metroid fanbase just doesn't care about those extras when it didn't affect their interest in previous 2D games whatsoever.
Well you might be right, but even if I consider myself a Metroid fan I'm still not comfortable with buying any game that's got such a greedy practice lurking behind it. There's plenty of other games I can play, the Return of Samus can wait for me.
I'm not telling anyone else whether they should or should not buy this game ASAP, just giving my personal opinion on this situation.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!(edited 1 week ago)Metroid Prime trilogy had all of those. And yes a lot of people liked achieving the medals to unlock it all.
I'm not boycotting the game. I'm not buying the amiibo though. Not like this is a special case. I have been against Nintendo using Amiibo as inaccessible expensive on-disc DLC since day 1."You got a lot to learn before you beat me.
Tryagainkiddo AAAH AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH."(edited 1 week ago)I feel like the only person on the internet that realizes you can use a single Amiibo on an infinite number of copies of the same game. Find someone who has the Amiibo, take their Amiibo and tap it on the 3DS, thank them and tell them to have a nice one. Money spent on unlocking content == $0. You don't HAVE to BUY an Amiibo to unlock the content. That's why it's not DLC, it's a freaking bonus for having the Amiibo.
Personally, I think if Amiibo are going to unlock more significant rewards, I'd prefer it to be an issue of timed early access or an alternative to performing a challenge in game. Nintendo are not blameless, but there is a serious misunderstanding persisting on the internet that Amiibo only work once, and I'm not talking about how one Amiibo can unlock things on different games, I mean if ten people with copies of Samus Returns and no Amiibos showed up at my house, I could unlock everything for everyone if I alone had the required Amiibos. It's bull that some people have to go to those lengths, more bull that some people don't have many gamers in their area which makes it harder, but stop acting like there are no options, there are.Serious gamers take themselves way too seriously.6-19-7 posted...honyo29 posted...
let's juat bury the metroid franchise for good.
Go die in hell.
Technically you have to die to go to hell, so you can't die inside hell...'You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?'
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honyo29 posted...
let's juat bury the metroid franchise for good.
Go die in hell.
Technically you have to die to go to hell, so you can't die inside hell...
It depends on what you define as hell. If you use the societies term for hell, you are correct then.Take every chance you want to make and fulfill it till the end ~DASHWOOD
15/09/2017 Metroid SR Legacy edition confirmed for me! MSR Amiibo's pre-ordered.theneovega posted...I feel like the only person on the internet that realizes you can use a single Amiibo on an infinite number of copies of the same game. Find someone who has the Amiibo, take their Amiibo and tap it on the 3DS, thank them and tell them to have a nice one. Money spent on unlocking content == $0. You don't HAVE to BUY an Amiibo to unlock the content. That's why it's not DLC, it's a freaking bonus for having the Amiibo.
Personally, I think if Amiibo are going to unlock more significant rewards, I'd prefer it to be an issue of timed early access or an alternative to performing a challenge in game. Nintendo are not blameless, but there is a serious misunderstanding persisting on the internet that Amiibo only work once, and I'm not talking about how one Amiibo can unlock things on different games, I mean if ten people with copies of Samus Returns and no Amiibos showed up at my house, I could unlock everything for everyone if I alone had the required Amiibos. It's bull that some people have to go to those lengths, more bull that some people don't have many gamers in their area which makes it harder, but stop acting like there are no options, there are.
I don't have any. No gamers in my area.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Blayshy posted...theneovega posted...
I feel like the only person on the internet that realizes you can use a single Amiibo on an infinite number of copies of the same game. Find someone who has the Amiibo, take their Amiibo and tap it on the 3DS, thank them and tell them to have a nice one. Money spent on unlocking content == $0. You don't HAVE to BUY an Amiibo to unlock the content. That's why it's not DLC, it's a freaking bonus for having the Amiibo.
Personally, I think if Amiibo are going to unlock more significant rewards, I'd prefer it to be an issue of timed early access or an alternative to performing a challenge in game. Nintendo are not blameless, but there is a serious misunderstanding persisting on the internet that Amiibo only work once, and I'm not talking about how one Amiibo can unlock things on different games, I mean if ten people with copies of Samus Returns and no Amiibos showed up at my house, I could unlock everything for everyone if I alone had the required Amiibos. It's bull that some people have to go to those lengths, more bull that some people don't have many gamers in their area which makes it harder, but stop acting like there are no options, there are.
I don't have any. No gamers in my area.
That's what someone else said as well in another post. I sympathize, most of my gamer friends are scattered across the state. It sucks for someone who prefers local multiplayer to online. But you can't tell me that you're the only gamer in a hundred km radius. I bet if there was a sticky thread for people getting Samus Returns but not Amiibo, listing everyone's home turf, it'd facilitate a means to bypass the "paywall". I'm not naive enough to think Amiibos are easily found and reasonanly priced, and contrary to my stance in other threads, I'm not a fan of Amiibo exclusive content. I've got the two SSB Samus Amiibo, and I'll most likely get the new ones if found. I'm seriously considering offering to unlock the extras for local gamers.Serious gamers take themselves way too seriously.(edited 6 days ago)theneovega posted...Blayshy posted...
theneovega posted...
I feel like the only person on the internet that realizes you can use a single Amiibo on an infinite number of copies of the same game. Find someone who has the Amiibo, take their Amiibo and tap it on the 3DS, thank them and tell them to have a nice one. Money spent on unlocking content == $0. You don't HAVE to BUY an Amiibo to unlock the content. That's why it's not DLC, it's a freaking bonus for having the Amiibo.
Personally, I think if Amiibo are going to unlock more significant rewards, I'd prefer it to be an issue of timed early access or an alternative to performing a challenge in game. Nintendo are not blameless, but there is a serious misunderstanding persisting on the internet that Amiibo only work once, and I'm not talking about how one Amiibo can unlock things on different games, I mean if ten people with copies of Samus Returns and no Amiibos showed up at my house, I could unlock everything for everyone if I alone had the required Amiibos. It's bull that some people have to go to those lengths, more bull that some people don't have many gamers in their area which makes it harder, but stop acting like there are no options, there are.
I don't have any. No gamers in my area.
That's what someone else said as well in another post. I sympathize, most of my gamer friends are scattered across the state. It sucks for someone who prefers local multiplayer to online. But you can't tell me that you're the only gamer in a hundred km radius. I bet if there was a sticky thread for people getting Samus Returns but not Amiibo, listing everyone's home turf, it'd facilitate a means to bypass the "paywall". I'm not naive enough to think Amiibos are easily found and reasonanly priced, and contrary to my stance in other threads, I'm not a fan of Amiibo exclusive content. I've got the two SSB Samus Amiibo, and I'll most likely get the new ones if found. I'm seriously considering offering to unlock the extras for local gamers.
I have both Smash Samus(es). And I am. Seems most Nintendo gamers in my area don't want people to know they're playing "childish" games and not "mature" games.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Blayshy posted...theneovega posted...
Blayshy posted...
theneovega posted...
I feel like the only person on the internet that realizes you can use a single Amiibo on an infinite number of copies of the same game. Find someone who has the Amiibo, take their Amiibo and tap it on the 3DS, thank them and tell them to have a nice one. Money spent on unlocking content == $0. You don't HAVE to BUY an Amiibo to unlock the content. That's why it's not DLC, it's a freaking bonus for having the Amiibo.
Personally, I think if Amiibo are going to unlock more significant rewards, I'd prefer it to be an issue of timed early access or an alternative to performing a challenge in game. Nintendo are not blameless, but there is a serious misunderstanding persisting on the internet that Amiibo only work once, and I'm not talking about how one Amiibo can unlock things on different games, I mean if ten people with copies of Samus Returns and no Amiibos showed up at my house, I could unlock everything for everyone if I alone had the required Amiibos. It's bull that some people have to go to those lengths, more bull that some people don't have many gamers in their area which makes it harder, but stop acting like there are no options, there are.
I don't have any. No gamers in my area.
That's what someone else said as well in another post. I sympathize, most of my gamer friends are scattered across the state. It sucks for someone who prefers local multiplayer to online. But you can't tell me that you're the only gamer in a hundred km radius. I bet if there was a sticky thread for people getting Samus Returns but not Amiibo, listing everyone's home turf, it'd facilitate a means to bypass the "paywall". I'm not naive enough to think Amiibos are easily found and reasonanly priced, and contrary to my stance in other threads, I'm not a fan of Amiibo exclusive content. I've got the two SSB Samus Amiibo, and I'll most likely get the new ones if found. I'm seriously considering offering to unlock the extras for local gamers.
I have both Smash Samus(es). And I am. Seems most Nintendo gamers in my area don't want people to know they're playing "childish" games and not "mature" games.
That is a true observation, indeed. Nintendo do themselves no favors in the way they market and present their image. :(Serious gamers take themselves way too seriously.Even if someone can help others who own the game with their own amiibo, that still doesn't change the fact that this content should have been available to everyone who just buys the game. It's in the game card/digital download, the amiibo just work as a key without enhancing the game experience in any meaningful way.That's my beef with the game's amiibo usage.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!Solibrae posted...Even if someone can help others who own the game with their own amiibo, that still doesn't change the fact that this content should have been available to everyone who just buys the game. It's in the game card/digital download, the amiibo just work as a key without enhancing the game experience in any meaningful way.That's my beef with the game's amiibo usage.
Agreed. I'm not here to defend Nintendo, just reminding people they don't HAVE to buy them. I repeat from an earlier post; if Nintendo wants to lock game modes behind Amiibo, it should either be a timed exclusive (early adopters get it a month or two ahead, but eventually the content becomes open to everyone), or it should be a way to unlock rewards that can be obtained by accomplishing challenges in game. But aside from Smash where you could tie a custom fighter to an individual Amiibo, every other instance is exactly that; unlocking existing content. It's the nature of the existing content on this particular game that seems to have gone too far.
If you consider something like Mario Maker, where you could use Amiibos to unlock character skins, you could also unlock them by completing the challenge rounds (although I don't remember if that applied to all the costumes), that is how Amiibo should work. And if an Amiibo is needed for exclusive modes, it needs to come in the box with the game. I love the fact that when I get a new game I can unlock some kind of bonus item or new costumes with the same exact Amiibo I've used on multiple game previously. But I do actually understand the frustration Metroid fans are feeling having to pay $40 for the game and anywhere between $48-60 in Amiibo to complete it. I really hope Nintendo's listening to the backlash and change course considering.
I probably should have made that clearer before ranting on pedantic solutions.Serious gamers take themselves way too seriously.(edited 5 days ago)amiibo are great. Getting an NFC reader/writer for games so I can use mah Daisy amiibo in several of the games my sister wants.Daisy amiibo sass!
Switch FC - 5067-3358-4023Doesn't bother me. I've never cared for these hard modes anyway. It's like.. "You went through all this grueling effort to beat the game! Now go through it again, even harder this time." Thanks, but no thanks.memoryman3 posted...amiibo are great. Getting an NFC reader/writer for games so I can use mah Daisy amiibo in several of the games my sister wants.
Your sister??
BTW, Daisy doesn't work on Metroid II.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.memoryman3 posted...amiibo are great. Getting an NFC reader/writer for games so I can use mah Daisy amiibo in several of the games my sister wants.
You must be really bored today to rez these dying threads just to get off about Daisy some more instead of actually contributing to conversation.So how exactly is this supposed to be any different than Day 1 DLC? Except this time it can be potentially much more difficult to obtain.
And come on, guys. "Well, the content doesn't really matter that much." Yes, it doesn't matter to you. But there's a lot of people who do want that content and they shouldn't have to pay for it when it's something that should've been there in the first place--again, this is Day 1 DLC.Playing right now: Splatoon 2, MiitopiaThey should sell Data Amiibo online for two bucks each that you can use as real Amiibo. Basically DLC for whatever games the Amiibo happens to be compatible with.
But that would violate Nintando's "ripping people off" policy, so can't do that.I can get the amiibo content without having to pay extra anyway. What stinks for me is that I have a regular 3DS, and the NFC Reader isn't sold anywhere anymore. So I actually have to pay an extra $250+ for a new model if I want to use amiibo, as well as anybody else (unless they get lucky with the Reader).Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz
Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dAJust buy the NFC cards off Amazon and make them yourself. If some of you used half the effort you use making these topics, you could make your own amiibo data.The Science Team of Dark AetherBut Day 1 DLC and paywall content is okay when Nintendo does it.
Just look at how awesome BotW was because of it! -_(\
In all seriousness, this game can piss off. 13 years for only a remake, that has its development outsourced, and now not only Day 1 DLC but paywall content that was once free, to boot? Ugh.
The Metroid fan in me wants it, but the Metroid fan in me just can't justify supporting this.GOTY 2017: Horizon: Zero Dawn
Top 5 GOAT: Secret of Mana, Bloodborne, The Witcher 3, Borderlands 2, Metal Gear SolidFang289 posted...Just buy the NFC cards off Amazon and make them yourself. If some of you used half the effort you use making these topics, you could make your own amiibo data.
Too bad it's too complicated and I don't have the tools.
I'd like to get the cards however.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Wow. Can't believe they'd lock a difficulty behind over-priced toys. T_______T3DS FC : 2466-1998-1301 name :Jeremy
PSN : Phearoz. MH4LIFE - UsamiSpinoRaptor24 posted...Herbette posted...
Kira_Elric2 posted...
A harder mode doesn't add to the enjoyment of the game? A HARDER MODE DOESN'T ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF A GAME? Are you f***ing serious right now?
Errr... Did you ever played a hard mode on a metroid game?
What kind of enjoyment it added to your experience, seriously?
And the usual hard mode is on the game. An additional mode, is literally a bonus.
Joke post? You do realize that hard mode was always part of Metroid's experience, especially when it comes to speedrunning, right?
You've honestly just made yourself look pretty ignorant with that comment.
No it wasn't, hard mode wasn't even a thing until Prime.Notyou- Boards
- Nintendo 3DS
- PSA: you can't play Metroid Returns on hardest difficulty without Amiibo
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