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Were Dragon Quest 1 & 2 ever remade?

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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#1
Or is the Gameboy Color version the remakes? If so it needs remade again... To have todays graphics.

I'm asking because I'm looking to get into Dragon Quest, and I want to play all the games in order. I know I don't have to, but I want to be able to get all the references spread throughout the games.
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There are the mobile versions.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#3
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#4
DQI and II originally released on the NES (as did III and IV). They've been remade for the SNES (Japan only) and GBC; I believe the mobile versions are based on the SNES versions. DQI through III are also going to be released on the 3DS (based on the mobile versions), though I don't think it's been stated as to whether they'll be released outside of Japan or not.
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Darkastral 1 day ago#5
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.
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Finn-X 1 day ago#6
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?

The graphics look updated to me.
Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#7
PolkaGnome posted...
DQI and II originally released on the NES (as did III and IV). They've been remade for the SNES (Japan only) and GBC; I believe the mobile versions are based on the SNES versions. DQI through III are also going to be released on the 3DS (based on the mobile versions), though I don't think it's been stated as to whether they'll be released outside of Japan or not.

Aww :(

Well I'm probably going to get a Gameboy Advance (those play GBC games right?) And play DQ 1 & 2 on there. I want to play other GBC and Gameboy Advance too. It would suck if I got the GBC version and then the games came to the 3DS Eshop in America, but oh well. I don't want to wait and see.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#8
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#9
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?
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Darkastral 1 day ago#10
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?


The original DQ1 is probably 10~12 hours long, 95% of which is grinding. You could probably walk from one end of the world map to the other in less than a minute if you didn't get into random battles. DQ2 is a similar situation, but a few hours longer. Both were given increased EXP gains in all subsequent releases, and since grinding is so much of the gameplay, the ports are probably 30% shorter than the original NES releases.
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Crazy4Mario posted...
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#12
DQIII is available on the NES, SNES (Japan only), GBC, and there's a mobile port of the SNES version, but they cut out the Pachisi minigame and a post-game dungeon for some reason. IV is on the NES, DS, and I think there's a mobile port of the DS version (not 100% sure on that though).

I'd say DQI would take maybe 20-30 hours at most for your first playthrough, and that might be guessing a bit high (I go at a rather slow pace myself, to the point I usually take 50% longer or more than most people). DQII is a bit longer and is more of what you'd expect from an RPG in terms of length, but it's still fairly short in comparison.

And, yeah the GBA and GBA SP will play GB and GBC games. Also, as far as the SNES versions of I-III go, there are English translation patches available for them online, but discussing the details of such things goes against GameFAQs ToS (since it generally involves playing them via "ostrich"). It's up to you whether you want to look into it on your own, or just opt to play the GB(C) or mobile ports instead.
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The gameboy color versions were the remake the originals were the NES versions
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#14
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?


The original DQ1 is probably 10~12 hours long, 95% of which is grinding. You could probably walk from one end of the world map to the other in less than a minute if you didn't get into random battles. DQ2 is a similar situation, but a few hours longer. Both were given increased EXP gains in all subsequent releases, and since grinding is so much of the gameplay, the ports are probably 30% shorter than the original NES releases.

Seriously?

So the GBC versions have increased EXP gains?

Why so much grinding? Just fighting every time you're random encountered while you're going places isn't enough? :/

I'm playing Golden Sun right now. For comparison, how long is Golden Sun (about)?
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#15
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.

There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?

And those are the remakes right? Are the remakes better or are the originals better?
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#16
PolkaGnome posted...
DQIII is available on the NES, SNES (Japan only), GBC, and there's a mobile port of the SNES version, but they cut out the Pachisi minigame and a post-game dungeon for some reason. IV is on the NES, DS, and I think there's a mobile port of the DS version (not 100% sure on that though).

I'd say DQI would take maybe 20-30 hours at most for your first playthrough, and that might be guessing a bit high (I go at a rather slow pace myself, to the point I usually take 50% longer or more than most people). DQII is a bit longer and is more of what you'd expect from an RPG in terms of length, but it's still fairly short in comparison.

And, yeah the GBA and GBA SP will play GB and GBC games. Also, as far as the SNES versions of I-III go, there are English translation patches available for them online, but discussing the details of such things goes against GameFAQs ToS (since it generally involves playing them via "ostrich"). It's up to you whether you want to look into it on your own, or just opt to play the GB(C) or mobile ports instead.

Thanks. I'll probably play the GBC versions. Which do you think is the best version of each one though.
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Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.

There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?

And those are the remakes right? Are the remakes better or are the originals better?

There were no GBA main titles. Just one spinoff that was never localized.

Yep, they are the remakes. And whichever is better depends on your preference. I love the originals and the remakes and play both depending on my mood. I believe the remakes are more readily available, though.
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Meta289 1 day ago#18
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?


The original DQ1 is probably 10~12 hours long, 95% of which is grinding. You could probably walk from one end of the world map to the other in less than a minute if you didn't get into random battles. DQ2 is a similar situation, but a few hours longer. Both were given increased EXP gains in all subsequent releases, and since grinding is so much of the gameplay, the ports are probably 30% shorter than the original NES releases.

Seriously?

So the GBC versions have increased EXP gains?

Why so much grinding? Just fighting every time you're random encountered while you're going places isn't enough? :/

I'm playing Golden Sun right now. For comparison, how long is Golden Sun (about)?


Remember, these games were some of the first in their (sub)genre. They couldn't yet make any kind of grand, sweeping narratives or have a ton of things to do, so the only real way for them to make the game last was to put in a ton of grinding. They're not games that have aged especially well, but they're still decent games that should still be played by any RPG enthusiast, at least for their historical value.
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Darkastral 1 day ago#19
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?


The original DQ1 is probably 10~12 hours long, 95% of which is grinding. You could probably walk from one end of the world map to the other in less than a minute if you didn't get into random battles. DQ2 is a similar situation, but a few hours longer. Both were given increased EXP gains in all subsequent releases, and since grinding is so much of the gameplay, the ports are probably 30% shorter than the original NES releases.

Seriously?

So the GBC versions have increased EXP gains?

Why so much grinding? Just fighting every time you're random encountered while you're going places isn't enough? :/

I'm playing Golden Sun right now. For comparison, how long is Golden Sun (about)?


Yep, the GBC versions have increased EXP/Gold gains. There's a ton of grinding because JRPGs were in their infancy in the 80's and it was an easy way to increase game time. And no, fighting every encounter won't get you nearly enough EXP. You need to be around level 19 or so to beat the original Dragon Quest, and after about level 12 it takes 20-40 minutes of dedicated grinding per level. I'm not kidding when I say it's 95% grinding; there's almost nothing else.

It's been a while since I've beaten the original Golden Sun, but I remember it being somewhere around 20-25 hours.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#20
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.

There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?

And those are the remakes right? Are the remakes better or are the originals better?

There were no GBA main titles. Just one spinoff that was never localized.

Yep, they are the remakes. And whichever is better depends on your preference. I love the originals and the remakes and play both depending on my mood. I believe the remakes are more readily available, though.

By readily available, you mean easier to obtain? Easier to get?
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#21
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Darkastral posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
There are the mobile versions.

??? But they aren't updated graphically or anything?
They're ports right?


They're pretty much ports of the SNES versions. With that being said, both games are so short and simple that there really isn't a point in updating them anymore graphically. I could see them maybe doing that with III since it's a more substantial game, though.

How are they on the shorter side? How short exactly...?


The original DQ1 is probably 10~12 hours long, 95% of which is grinding. You could probably walk from one end of the world map to the other in less than a minute if you didn't get into random battles. DQ2 is a similar situation, but a few hours longer. Both were given increased EXP gains in all subsequent releases, and since grinding is so much of the gameplay, the ports are probably 30% shorter than the original NES releases.

Seriously?

So the GBC versions have increased EXP gains?

Why so much grinding? Just fighting every time you're random encountered while you're going places isn't enough? :/

I'm playing Golden Sun right now. For comparison, how long is Golden Sun (about)?


Yep, the GBC versions have increased EXP/Gold gains. There's a ton of grinding because JRPGs were in their infancy in the 80's and it was an easy way to increase game time. And no, fighting every encounter won't get you nearly enough EXP. You need to be around level 19 or so to beat the original Dragon Quest, and after about level 12 it takes 20-40 minutes of dedicated grinding per level. I'm not kidding when I say it's 95% grinding; there's almost nothing else.

It's been a while since I've beaten the original Golden Sun, but I remember it being somewhere around 20-25 hours.

Wow... So there's not much to the story and characters?
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#22
For me, the SNES versions are what I prefer, but the GBC versions are quite good as well and were my introduction to the series way back when. To be fair, I've never tried the NES or mobile versions though (I've heard the mobile versions of I and II are the best, but can't really say). As far as IV goes... I've only tried the DS version, and I'm not sure if the mobile version features any differences (it's the only game in the main series I don't really care for, so I can't say I've put much research into it).

The only GBA game I can think of would be the spin-off title Dragon Quest Monsters III: Caravan Hearts, which was another Japan only title (though again, there's a translation patch out there). There might be another spin-off title or two for the GBA, but I can't recall right off hand. There aren't any mainline titles on it though.

Edit: DQI's story is a very basic 'hero saves the world by defeating the big bad' kind of affair, and there are no party members, just the MC. DQII features a party of three, and the story is a bit more complex, but still quite basic compared to most RPGs (though I can't really remember the plot since A. I never beat it, and B. it's been years since I last played it). Like it as said above, these are really old games and were pretty much the first of their kind (on consoles), so you shouldn't really expect a whole lot. That's not to say they aren't still fun if you're into old-school games, just that you need the right mindset.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#23
Even with the icreased experience gains you have to grind a lot?

I guess that's fine.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#24
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For me, the SNES versions are what I prefer, but the GBC versions are quite good as well and were my introduction to the series way back when. To be fair, I've never tried the NES or mobile versions though (I've heard the mobile versions of I and II are the best, but can't really say). As far as IV goes... I've only tried the DS version, and I'm not sure if the mobile version features any differences (it's the only game in the main series I don't really care for, so I can't say I've put much research into it).

The only GBA game I can think of would be the spin-off title Dragon Quest Monsters III: Caravan Hearts, which was another Japan only title (though again, there's a translation patch out there). There might be another spin-off title or two for the GBA, but I can't recall right off hand. There aren't any mainline titles on it though.

Edit: DQI's story is a very basic 'hero saves the world by defeating the big bad' kind of affair, and there are no party members, just the MC. DQII features a party of three, and the story is a bit more complex, but still quite basic compared to most RPGs (though I can't really remember the plot since A. I never beat it, and B. it's been years since I last played it). Like it as said above, these are really old games and were pretty much the first of their kind (on consoles), so you shouldn't really expect a whole lot. That's not to say they aren't still fun if you're into old-school games, just that you need the right mindset.

I wouldn't know how to use patches for games. I'm not gonna try to mess with that. Too complicated. I don't know how to do stuff like that.

How is a mobile version of a console/handheld game the best version? :/

Isn't it the same EXACT game just ported to a phone? Plus I don't like how games control on phones. Touch screen controls, at least. I know they have controllers you can buy that you put your phone in to play games with on your phone.
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Crazy4Mario posted...
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What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.

There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?

And those are the remakes right? Are the remakes better or are the originals better?

There were no GBA main titles. Just one spinoff that was never localized.

Yep, they are the remakes. And whichever is better depends on your preference. I love the originals and the remakes and play both depending on my mood. I believe the remakes are more readily available, though.

By readily available, you mean easier to obtain? Easier to get?

Yes, those are easier to obtain than the NES originals.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#26
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
What is DQ 3 & 4 on?

III is on GBC. IV is on DS. Both are also on mobile.

There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?

And those are the remakes right? Are the remakes better or are the originals better?

There were no GBA main titles. Just one spinoff that was never localized.

Yep, they are the remakes. And whichever is better depends on your preference. I love the originals and the remakes and play both depending on my mood. I believe the remakes are more readily available, though.

By readily available, you mean easier to obtain? Easier to get?

Yes, those are easier to obtain than the NES originals.

I'd rather play the GBC version anyways.

And you can get either one off of Amazon or Ebay, so I don't know how the NES originals are harder to obtain than the GBC versions. The only difference would be the price, but that doesn't make it harder to obtain if money isn't an issue....
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SNES remakes, GBC remakes, and two different mobile remakes
Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#28
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SNES remakes, GBC remakes, and two different mobile remakes

Two different mobile remakes?
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#29
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For me, the SNES versions are what I prefer, but the GBC versions are quite good as well and were my introduction to the series way back when. To be fair, I've never tried the NES or mobile versions though (I've heard the mobile versions of I and II are the best, but can't really say). As far as IV goes... I've only tried the DS version, and I'm not sure if the mobile version features any differences (it's the only game in the main series I don't really care for, so I can't say I've put much research into it).

The only GBA game I can think of would be the spin-off title Dragon Quest Monsters III: Caravan Hearts, which was another Japan only title (though again, there's a translation patch out there). There might be another spin-off title or two for the GBA, but I can't recall right off hand. There aren't any mainline titles on it though.

Edit: DQI's story is a very basic 'hero saves the world by defeating the big bad' kind of affair, and there are no party members, just the MC. DQII features a party of three, and the story is a bit more complex, but still quite basic compared to most RPGs (though I can't really remember the plot since A. I never beat it, and B. it's been years since I last played it). Like it as said above, these are really old games and were pretty much the first of their kind (on consoles), so you shouldn't really expect a whole lot. That's not to say they aren't still fun if you're into old-school games, just that you need the right mindset.

I wouldn't know how to use patches for games. I'm not gonna try to mess with that. Too complicated. I don't know how to do stuff like that.

How is a mobile version of a console/handheld game the best version? :/

Isn't it the same EXACT game just ported to a phone? Plus I don't like how games control on phones. Touch screen controls, at least. I know they have controllers you can buy that you put your phone in to play games with on your phone.

Not too fond of mobile games and touchscreen controls myself (aside from the odd puzzle game), so I haven't tried them and can't really say either way. I only mentioned it as I've seen other fans of the series that I consider rather trustworthy in that regard say so, but I've never really looked into the details. The only differences I know of right off hand is what I mentioned earlier about the mobile port of III, and that's only because it inevitably comes up every time the mobile port is mentioned.

As far as the translation patches go, they're rather easy to apply, but it's understandably not something everyone wants to mess with.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#30
PolkaGnome posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
PolkaGnome posted...
For me, the SNES versions are what I prefer, but the GBC versions are quite good as well and were my introduction to the series way back when. To be fair, I've never tried the NES or mobile versions though (I've heard the mobile versions of I and II are the best, but can't really say). As far as IV goes... I've only tried the DS version, and I'm not sure if the mobile version features any differences (it's the only game in the main series I don't really care for, so I can't say I've put much research into it).

The only GBA game I can think of would be the spin-off title Dragon Quest Monsters III: Caravan Hearts, which was another Japan only title (though again, there's a translation patch out there). There might be another spin-off title or two for the GBA, but I can't recall right off hand. There aren't any mainline titles on it though.

Edit: DQI's story is a very basic 'hero saves the world by defeating the big bad' kind of affair, and there are no party members, just the MC. DQII features a party of three, and the story is a bit more complex, but still quite basic compared to most RPGs (though I can't really remember the plot since A. I never beat it, and B. it's been yearssince I last played it). Like it as said above, these are really old games and were pretty much the first of their kind (on consoles), so you shouldn't really expect a whole lot. That's not to say they aren't still fun if you're into old-school games, just that you need the right mindset.

I wouldn't know how to use patches for games. I'm not gonna try to mess with that. Too complicated. I don't know how to do stuff like that.

How is a mobile version of a console/handheld game the best version? :/

Isn't it the same EXACT game just ported to a phone? Plus I don't like how games control on phones. Touch screen controls, at least. I know they have controllers you can buy that you put your phone in to play games with on your phone.

Not too fond of mobile games and touchscreen controls myself (aside from the odd puzzle game), so I haven't tried them and can't really say either way. I only mentioned it as I've seen other fans of the series that I consider rather trustworthy in that regard say so, but I've never really looked into the details. The only differences I know of right off hand is what I mentioned earlier about the mobile port of III, and that's only because it inevitably comes up every time the mobile port is mentioned.

As far as the translation patches go, they're rather easy to apply, but it's understandably not something everyone wants to mess with.

Yeah. I'd rather not mess with it.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#31
The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.
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The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.

The titles officially use Roman numerals, so I will use the official titles. :)

What are you wanting to know about IX? It's a DS only entry that's pretty sweet. The biggest downside is the DS wifi servers were shutdown and all the DLC is only available if you know someone who can give it to you locally.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#33
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Crazy4Mario posted...
The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.

The titles officially use Roman numerals, so I will use the official titles. :)

What are you wanting to know about IX? It's a DS only entry that's pretty sweet. The biggest downside is the DS wifi servers were shutdown and all the DLC is only available if you know someone who can give it to you locally.

Awww man. :(

What's the DLC? 

Is the DS version a remake or has 9 not been remade yet?

Could they potentially remake it and include the DLC in the remake?

I mean... they remade 7 & 8 on the 3DS. They can do the same for 9.

Did 7 & 8 (originals) have DLC too? If so, was it included in the 3DS remakes?

I don't like missing out on content. :(
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Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.

The titles officially use Roman numerals, so I will use the official titles. :)

What are you wanting to know about IX? It's a DS only entry that's pretty sweet. The biggest downside is the DS wifi servers were shutdown and all the DLC is only available if you know someone who can give it to you locally.

Awww man. :(

What's the DLC? 

Is the DS version a remake or has 9 not been remade yet?

Could they potentially remake it and include the DLC in the remake?

I mean... they remade 7 & 8 on the 3DS. They can do the same for 9.

Did 7 & 8 (originals) have DLC too? If so, was it included in the 3DS remakes?

I don't like missing out on content. :(

IX was built specifically for DS. They could certainly remake it with all content, but nothing's been said to that effect. The DLC was various items, legacy bosses and characters from past titles. Pretty good amount of stuff, really.

The original VII and VIII didn't have DLC but the remakes do. VII's was handled very well, but I've had nothing but problems trying to make the DLC for VIII work. Fortunately, it's mostly just bonus items with some unique ones sprinkled in. Sucks to miss out on those, but it is what it is.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#35
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.

The titles officially use Roman numerals, so I will use the official titles. :)

What are you wanting to know about IX? It's a DS only entry that's pretty sweet. The biggest downside is the DS wifi servers were shutdown and all the DLC is only available if you know someone who can give it to you locally.

Awww man. :(

What's the DLC? 

Is the DS version a remake or has 9 not been remade yet?

Could they potentially remake it and include the DLC in the remake?

I mean... they remade 7 & 8 on the 3DS. They can do the same for 9.

Did 7 & 8 (originals) have DLC too? If so, was it included in the 3DS remakes?

I don't like missing out on content. :(

IX was built specifically for DS. They could certainly remake it with all content, but nothing's been said to that effect. The DLC was various items, legacy bosses and characters from past titles. Pretty good amount of stuff, really.

The original VII and VIII didn't have DLC but the remakes do. VII's was handled very well, but I've had nothing but problems trying to make the DLC for VIII work. Fortunately, it's mostly just bonus items with some unique ones sprinkled in. Sucks to miss out on those, but it is what it is.

How are you having trouble getting the DLC for 8 to work??? Is it a problem everyone has or just you?

What does the DS have that the 3DS can't do...? Like seriously. Plus it's a remake. They can make it work. 

There's no way I can buy a copy of 9 that has the DLC on it and start the game from the beginning? 

How can someone give you the DLC locally?
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#36
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
The Dragon Quest 7 & 8 (I personally don't like using Roman numerals. I don't know why you guys inist on using them. It's more to type, but whatever, do what you want) 3DS remakes look really good, and I want to play them. 

What is Dragon Quest 9? I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.

The titles officially use Roman numerals, so I will use the official titles. :)

What are you wanting to know about IX? It's a DS only entry that's pretty sweet. The biggest downside is the DS wifi servers were shutdown and all the DLC is only available if you know someone who can give it to you locally.

Awww man. :(

What's the DLC? 

Is the DS version a remake or has 9 not been remade yet?

Could they potentially remake it and include the DLC in the remake?

I mean... they remade 7 & 8 on the 3DS. They can do the same for 9.

Did 7 & 8 (originals) have DLC too? If so, was it included in the 3DS remakes?

I don't like missing out on content. :(

I use the Roman numerals for the same reason, same for when referring to FF titles.

There's no remake of IX yet, but there's no reason they couldn't do one in the future, especially considering how well it sold. IX is a little unusual within the series, as it's one of two titles to feature player made characters, with DQIII being the other one (there's technically three, but since X is an MMO that's kind of a given). As such, it can be sort of a hit or miss title for people as none of your party members have any pre-written personality, it's just whatever your own headcannon is (and as such, the entire party basically falls into the Silent Protagonist trope). It's also one of the handful of games in the series to utilize the Vocation (class) system, and offers a good amount of customization, as well as a ton of post-game content thanks to the Grotto system.

The DLC for it consisted of a number of sidequests, and unique items/equipment. Part of the items and equipment were locked behind a shop that used in-game currency, but the items available cycled every week or two. There's also a number of items you could obtain by sharing Tags with other players (the predecessor of Streetpass), as well as having additional floors built onto a certain hotel for achieving X number of tags. The hotel could house various characters from earlier games in the series who would give you unique equipment and such.

It's the first game in the series to replace random battles with visible encounters, and a number of other Quality of Life improvements, and even without the DLC there's a ton to do and collect. If you want to be able to get 100% though, you're either going to have to find another person IRL to share the stuff with you, use a cheat device/save editor, or basically emulate the old WiFi service (I don't remember the details regarding the last option though).

The original versions of VII and VIII did not have any DLC as they were released for the PSX and PS2 (respectively). The 3DS remakes do have some though. VII has the Traveler's Tablet system, which you can download certain special ones from Nintendo's servers (only certain ones are available at any given time and are cycled through). VIII allows you to connect to Nintendo's servers once a day and it gives you a random item, with exception to certain timeframes where you'll be given a unique piece of equipment. You can find more info on their respective boards.
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I get a date/time error when trying to connect to get the daily item, no matter what I try. Lots of people have this issue, so I'm not sure what the deal is. Especially considering the DLC for VII is handled incredibly well and cycles back around for people who miss out on it to get it again.

The DS servers were shut down - it's nothing special they did but they aren't shared with the 3DS servers. So, now that they are gone, there is no connecting to any online servers via the DS - only local connections.
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#38
Crazy4Mario posted...
How are you having trouble getting the DLC for 8 to work??? Is it a problem everyone has or just you?

What does the DS have that the 3DS can't do...? Like seriously. Plus it's a remake. They can make it work. 

There's no way I can buy a copy of 9 that has the DLC on it and start the game from the beginning? 

How can someone give you the DLC locally?

While it's technically DLC, it's all already on the cart to begin with, and connecting to the server just told the game what to offer/unlock (re: DQIX). Starting the game from the beginning will be as if it was a brand new cart (IIRC). I don't remember the details regarding how sharing the DLC works, as that's never been an option for me.

As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is notyour actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#39
Alright. Well I guess it doesn't matter that I can't get the DLC for 9. It's whatever.

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As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

Still bad for me. I had a period where I could get the items but, after the time change, it went back down. And none of fixes that had worked work anymore. I try occasionally but still nothing.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#41
PolkaGnome posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
How are you having trouble getting the DLC for 8 to work??? Is it a problem everyone has or just you?

What does the DS have that the 3DS can't do...? Like seriously. Plus it's a remake. They can make it work. 

There's no way I can buy a copy of 9 that has the DLC on it and start the game from the beginning? 

How can someone give you the DLC locally?

While it's technically DLC, it's all already on the cart to begin with, and connecting to the server just told the game what to offer/unlock (re: DQIX). Starting the game from the beginning will be as if it was a brand new cart (IIRC). I don't remember the details regarding how sharing the DLC works, as that's never been an option for me.

As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

What's in the Extra Data? 

Will I miss out on the DLC for the remakes if I don't play them soon?
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#42
freedumbdclxvi posted...
PolkaGnome posted...
As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

Still bad for me. I had a period where I could get the items but, after the time change, it went back down. And none of fixes that had worked work anymore. I try occasionally but still nothing.

Ah, that sucks. I got kinda burnt out after a certain key plot point, and just haven't gotten back to it, so I kinda stopped paying attention.

Edit: I don't remember everything that's in the extra data, but the main thing is the photos/screenshots you can take in VIII which are used in a sidequest that spans the length of the game. You can also share the photos online, but I forget the details of how that works (and if there's any real point to it). As for whether the DLC is missable... eventually, yeah. Though I don't know exactly when they'll stop cycling it. If I remember right, they didn't cycle through the items in VIII more than once or twice in Japan, but NoA might decide to do so for longer. *Shrugs* I think there's less worry about missing out on VII's despite it releasing earlier, but don't quote me on that.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#43
freedumbdclxvi posted...
PolkaGnome posted...
As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

Still bad for me. I had a period where I could get the items but, after the time change, it went back down. And none of fixes that had worked work anymore. I try occasionally but still nothing.

That's some BS. Nintendo needs to fix it. Is it Paid DLC?
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Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
PolkaGnome posted...
As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

Still bad for me. I had a period where I could get the items but, after the time change, it went back down. And none of fixes that had worked work anymore. I try occasionally but still nothing.

That's some BS. Nintendo needs to fix it. Is it Paid DLC?

No, it's free.
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Crazy4Mario 1 day ago#45
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
PolkaGnome posted...
As far as VIII's DLC goes, some people have a problem with it and others don't. Last I heard, no one really knew why, but I haven't really read up on it in the last 3-4 months. For those that did have problems with it (myself included), a lot of people were able to fix it by going into their 3DS's settings and deleting the game's Extra Data (which thankfully is not your actual save data). That said, last I saw, some people still had problems connecting even after trying that fix, but again, that was 3-4 months ago, so I can't say what it's like at the moment.

Still bad for me. I had a period where I could get the items but, after the time change, it went back down. And none of fixes that had worked work anymore. I try occasionally but still nothing.

That's some BS. Nintendo needs to fix it. Is it Paid DLC?

No, it's free.

The DLC for both 7 & 8 remakes are both free?

They still need to fix the issue with 8's DLC.
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PolkaGnome 1 day ago#46
Yeah, all the DLC is free (as was IX's for what it's worth).

Edit: Check my last post for an edited section, this thread moves too fast.
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ecco6t9 16 hours ago#47
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Nova_Castings 11 hours ago#48
Crazy4Mario posted...
Second_Chances posted...
SNES remakes, GBC remakes, and two different mobile remakes

Two different mobile remakes?


The first set of mobile remakes were Japan-only. There's nothing unique about them at this point, so there's no need to worry about them.

Crazy4Mario posted...
There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?


There were four, all never released in the west and all spin-offs: the prevously mentioned Caravan Heart, Slime Mori Mori, and two Torneko games.

Crazy4Mario posted...
I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.


Both X and XI are out on PS4 in Japan and are coming to Switch. X is unlikely to come west, but XI is already announced for the west (how many and which versions are unknown, though the PS4 version was more or less leaked).
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Crazy4Mario 8 hours ago#49
Nova_Castings posted...
Crazy4Mario posted...
Second_Chances posted...
SNES remakes, GBC remakes, and two different mobile remakes

Two different mobile remakes?


The first set of mobile remakes were Japan-only. There's nothing unique about them at this point, so there's no need to worry about them.

Crazy4Mario posted...
There was no GBA Dragon Quest game?


There were four, all never released in the west and all spin-offs: the prevously mentioned Caravan Heart, Slime Mori Mori, and two Torneko games.

Crazy4Mario posted...
I know DQ 10 (or 11. don't remember which one) is coming to Switch (and PS4). Hopefully it gets released in America (In English). It looks really good too. Haven't seen much actual gameplay of it though.


Both X and XI are out on PS4 in Japan and are coming to Switch. X is unlikely to come west, but XI is already announced for the west (how many and which versions are unknown, though the PS4 version was more or less leaked).

10 is an MMORPG so I don't really care about it anyways.
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badboy 8 hours ago#50
It was remade on SFC, then on GBC, then on mobile (old cellphones). The mobile remake was later ported to iOS & Android, and recently to PS4. The mobile remake is based on the SFC remake of DQ3.
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    Crazy4Mario 8 hours ago#51
    badboy posted...
    It was remade on SFC, then on GBC, then on mobile (old cellphones). The mobile remake was later ported to iOS & Android, and recently to PS4.

    Huh. Does the remake on PS4 have trophies?
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    Nova_Castings 8 hours ago#52
    Crazy4Mario posted...
    Huh. Does the remake on PS4 have trophies?


    The original DQ apparently does and I see no reason the other two wouldn't.

    Edit: For clarity, the PS4 and 3DS versions of the original trilogy are currently Japan-only.
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    Crazy4Mario 8 hours ago#53
    Nova_Castings posted...
    Crazy4Mario posted...
    Huh. Does the remake on PS4 have trophies?


    The original DQ apparently does and I see no reason the other two wouldn't.

    Edit: For clarity, the PS4 and 3DS versions of the original trilogy are currently Japan-only.

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    gatsbyy 7 hours ago#54
    DQ3 second world is the original DQ world but in a post Apocalyptic form. Its my fav DQ game.
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