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E3 2017 was exciting for many reasons, but especially when The Pokémon Company International president and CEO Tsunekazu Ishihara announced that Game Freak had started developing a core Pokémon RPG title for Nintendo Switch.

Now, Game Freak co-founder Junichi Masuda has spoken about what the future holds for Pokémon, and how excited the team is – not only about Nintendo Switch, but in having the chance to release a Pokémon game on it.

“What I’m really curious about, and really excited to see, will be the main way that people play the Switch, Masuda explained to Game Informer, in their September issue.

“Will it be home for the most part? Will it be out and about? I think that is really going to depend on where the person lives, maybe. Depending on the country, maybe the main style of playing will be different. As we’ve been saying a lot, we always focus on, when designing the games, thinking about how the player is going to play the game – how they’re going to enjoy it, and what kind of experiences they are going to have. I’m really just kind of excited to see where the main style of playing is going to land.”

The Pokémon series has transitioned between platforms before, perhaps, most significantly, between the single-screen Game Boy family of systems to the dual-screen Nintendo DS. But, with Nintendo Switch, that transition perhaps isn’t as straightforward.

“It’s definitely different this time,” Masuda acknowledged. “Just playing it at home is kind of a little bit different than the portable systems we’ve made games for up until now.”

Game Freak isn’t blind to the overwhelming reaction that the news at E3 2017 was met with, and are certainly listening to feedback from fans as to what they are hoping to see.

Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon director Shigeru Ohmori added: “It definitely is really fun to see that, but at the same time, it is definitely a lot of pressure, so we’re going to do our best to create a game that answers those expectations.”

Masuda didn’t hesitate to agree, admitting that he hoped expectations from fans weren’t set too high.

Of course, it is very difficult to make the game, so I hope people don’t get their expectations up too high,” Masuda admitted. “We’ll do our best.”
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crunchy612 1 day ago#2
good, even they acknowledge that switchmon is probably a terrible idea
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Lexifox 1 day ago#3
To be fair this is good advice for all Pokemon games
"Murder of the living is tragic, but murder of the idea is unforgivable." - Janus, speaker of the synod
Will this quote be in every hype video leading up to the game's release?
Juliansgirl 1 day ago#5
wow even Gamefreak is losing hope on Pokémon. They might say curtain call of nintenog didn't want to milk them
Tappor_Koko 1 day ago#6
Lexifox posted...
To be fair this is good advice for all Pokemon games
IT IS TIME...
Juliansgirl posted...
wow even Gamefreak is losing hope on Pokémon. They might say curtain call of nintenog didn't want to milk them
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DracoSpire 1 day ago#8
I always thought it was gonna be like Colosseum or XD instead of a traditional main Pokémon game anyway.
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DracoSpire posted...
I always thought it was gonna be like Colosseum or XD instead of a traditional main Pokémon game anyway.

Didn't they claim it was going to be a "core" Pokemon game, though? Wouldn't that mean that it's gonna' be a main series title?

Although, I wouldn't be against a game like Colosseum/Gale of Darkness. I love those games.
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Catluver17 1 day ago#10
Welp, even GF themselves acknowledged how terrible Pokemon is now.

The truth is finally out there
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Also, Colosseum and XD weren't developed by Gamefreak. In terms of Pokemon, GF only make the core games
lol. i can only imagine how difficult making a new game on a new system would be for devs as incompetent as gamefreak
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Juliansgirl posted...
wow even Gamefreak is losing hope on Pokémon. They might say curtain call of nintenog didn't want to milk them
~TFS~
Glad to see those worthless hacks acknowledge how worthless they really are.

Here's hoping they sell the god damn franchise already.
tcsavato 1 day ago#15
What's with the doom and gloom?
Etria 1 day ago#16
"We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!"

No U.
Deadinsideman posted...
Glad to see those worthless hacks acknowledge how worthless they really are.

Here's hoping they sell the god damn franchise already.

this is never happening
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dragulas 1 day ago#18
lmao "difficult to make"
all the amazing games on much better consoles in recent times and pokémon of all things is apparently "difficult to make"
maybe the "difficult" thing is having to raise their standards to that of the games around them, since they've clearly become complacent in recent years on the 3DS
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tcsavato posted...
What's with the doom and gloom?

a long overdue franchise is finally dying
~TFS~
Etria posted...
"We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!"

No U.

botw was also a wii u port
thats cheating
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Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#21
Etria posted...
"We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!"

No U.


Zelda wasn't built from the ground-up for Switch though, it's a port of a Wii U game
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Etria 1 day ago#22
Tappor_Koko posted...
Etria posted...
"We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!"

No U.

botw was also a wii u port
thats cheating


You know what else was on Wii U? Pokken with super models and lots of trainer customization.

It's still no excuse though. That might not have been the best example, but the other series are releasing games for Switch too. Don't see them telling fans it's difficult.
dragulas 1 day ago#23
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016
don't f***ing turn around and tell people it's "difficult" with that kind of money behind you
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switcmon's going to look like a ps2 game, isn't it?
Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#25
dragulas posted...
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016
don't f***ing turn around and tell people it's "difficult" with that kind of money behind you


You know that Game Freak doesn't get all of that money, right

Part of it goes to Nintendo, another part goes to Creatures Inc., and another part goes to The Pokemon Company
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Tappor_Koko posted...
To be fair this is good advice for all Pokemon games
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dragulas 1 day ago#27
Rad_Dudesman posted...
dragulas posted...
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016
don't f***ing turn around and tell people it's "difficult" with that kind of money behind you


You know that Game Freak doesn't get all of that money, right

Part of it goes to Nintendo, another part goes to Creatures Inc., and another part goes to The Pokemon Company

and you know that GameFreak aren't the only ones funding this franchise, right
not only that, but the budget for a pokémon game as it is would barely be a fraction of that money, at best
we aren't talking top quality anything here
but it could be, if they wanted it to - they have the money
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fahademon 1 day ago#28
tcsavato posted...
What's with the doom and gloom?

It's always like this around here. If you prefer some positivity I suggest the pokemon subreddit
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
dragulas posted...
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016
don't f***ing turn around and tell people it's "difficult" with that kind of money behind you


You know that Game Freak doesn't get all of that money, right

Part of it goes to Nintendo, another part goes to Creatures Inc., and another part goes to The Pokemon Company

only getting 1/4 of the millions and millions of dollars they've made over the years.... those poor things. i sure hope that's enough to put bread on the table.

seriously, let's stop acting like gamefreak doesn't have a crap ton of talent to draw on. it's been stated in multiple interviews that there's a large number of non-gf staff that does work for the main series too. and for it to still be the quality that it is, is pathetic
Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#30
dragulas posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
dragulas posted...
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016
don't f***ing turn around and tell people it's "difficult" with that kind of money behind you


You know that Game Freak doesn't get all of that money, right

Part of it goes to Nintendo, another part goes to Creatures Inc., and another part goes to The Pokemon Company

and you know that GameFreak aren't the only ones funding this franchise, right
not only that, but the budget for a pokémon game as it is would barely be a fraction of that money, at best
we aren't talking top quality anything here
but it could be, if they wanted it to - they have the money


Big budgets are what's killing the game industry
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dragulas 1 day ago#31
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Big budgets are what's killing the game industry

that has nothing to do with anything
no one is asking for a $47 million pokémon game
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Mulate 1 day ago#32
dragulas posted...
lmao "difficult to make"
all the amazing games on much better consoles in recent times and pokémon of all things is apparently "difficult to make"
maybe the "difficult" thing is having to raise their standards to that of the games around them, since they've clearly become complacent in recent years on the 3DS
Lexifox 1 day ago#33
Why do people think that budget is what's "holding back" Pokemon
"Murder of the living is tragic, but murder of the idea is unforgivable." - Janus, speaker of the synod
I'll be waiting for Masuda to say "it's better than nothing" when switchmons comes out.
dragulas 1 day ago#35
Lexifox posted...
Why do people think that budget is what's "holding back" Pokemon

no one is saying that
but when you have pokémon levels of money, how can creating the game be difficult
especially a pokémon game
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Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#36
Also I'm pretty sure Masuda is talking about the morons who expect the game to be as big as Skyrim or Breath of the Wild

You know, the "open world game with every region" idiots
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Not surprised. I enjoyed Sun and Moon but...Gamefreak is having real trouble with the transition to 3D worlds/higher res graphics.

The absolute lack of effort they put into having your avatar show anything other than a crapton of clothing is pretty criminal. And whenever there's a closeup of any character's face outside of a cutscene, it's a pixelated mess. Seriously, they look like something someone built in minecraft. 

I don't usually nitpick about graphics, but sheesh. Also, here's a big, emotional scene! Your character should be sad! or angry! but instead they stare blandly ahead with a smile on their face like they've been lobotomized.
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dragulas 1 day ago#38
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Also I'm pretty sure Masuda is talking about the morons who expect the game to be as big as Skyrim or Breath of the Wild

You know, the "open world game with every region" idiots

that's a very minuscule section of the fanbase to be referencing in an interview...
sounds more to me like he's preemptively making excuses for why it'll be lacking

irulethegalaxy posted...
instead they stare blandly ahead with a smile on their face like they've been lobotomized.

that would explain why all the protags are so quiet
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Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#39
The full interview can be watched here:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
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crunchy612 posted...
good, even they acknowledge that switchmon is probably a terrible idea
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Breath of the Wild

BoTW is literally on the same console though.


You're basically saying it's wrong to have any good expectations of any kind(which is kinda true considering it's gamefreak but still)
fahademon posted...
tcsavato posted...
What's with the doom and gloom?

It's always like this around here. If you prefer some positivity I suggest the pokemon subreddit


/r/Pokemon is all Gen 1 memes and bad fanart there's barely any real positivity
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dragulas 1 day ago#44
OfficialAce-Kun posted...
/r/Pokemon is all Gen 1 memes and bad fanart there's barely any real positivity

neither of those things have anything to do with positivity...
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Lexifox 1 day ago#45
dragulas posted...
Lexifox posted...
Why do people think that budget is what's "holding back" Pokemon

no one is saying that
but when you have pokémon levels of money, how can creating the game be difficult
especially a pokémon game


It's almost like when you make a game, a big part of the game is the people behind it instead of how much money you can throw around. Crazy stuff, huh
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Yep, everyone's taking the quote out of context. Lovely.
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dragulas 1 day ago#49
Lexifox posted...
It's almost like when you make a game, a big part of the game is the people behind it instead of how much money you can throw around. Crazy stuff, huh

and it's almost like the more money you can throw around, the more talent you can afford, the better teams you can create, the less "difficult" things get
clearly crazy concepts for some, true
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DracoSpire 1 day ago#50
Phrase-of-Eve posted...
DracoSpire posted...
I always thought it was gonna be like Colosseum or XD instead of a traditional main Pokémon game anyway.

Didn't they claim it was going to be a "core" Pokemon game, though? Wouldn't that mean that it's gonna' be a main series title?

Although, I wouldn't be against a game like Colosseum/Gale of Darkness. I love those games.

That can be interpreted in different ways. While I'm not ruling out that it could be a standard Pokémon game, I'm letting it be known that there are too little details given to make assumptions about it off the bat.
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    jaoman69 1 day ago#51
    jaoman69 posted...
    Who?

    hahaha i dont really know
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    1_Der 1 day ago#53
    crunchy612 posted...
    good, even they acknowledge that switchmon is probably a terrible idea

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    Hopefully their just saying this for people hoping for somthing crazy like a full openworld pokemon game with all of the regions
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    Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    The full interview can be watched here:

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.
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    TheCraigadile posted...
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    The full interview can be watched here:

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.

    outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.
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    I'm guessing it's gonna still look like it was made on the 3DS, most likely reusing assets, but in HD. 

    I'll buy it definitely (haven't bought a Pokemon game since Y cause it disappointed me) just cause it's the first mainline game that's developed for a non-dedicated handheld console
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    Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is

    More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.

    Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.

    I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).
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    abcDSBT 1 day ago#63
    I mean it is a good idea not to overhype something, because there is no way it is going to reach your expectations.

    With that being said, the fact that he is kind of worried about moving on to a bigger and better console (relatively speaking) is...troublesome. Its not like Pokemon games are made by some small-budget indie company; this is a big team working on a big thing here!

    It doesn't need to be absolutely revolutionary, but it doesn't need to be bare-bones either. I can tell the transition to 3D has been difficult for them (or maybe it has made them more lax), but they need to get their s*** together. (Sell it all in s*** stocks, for example.)
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    tcsavato 1 day ago#64
    Xeno_Cyclops posted...
    I'm guessing it's gonna still look like it was made on the 3DS, most likely reusing assets, but in HD.


    the 3DS assets are already in HD, They're just scaled down internally when in use.
    dragulas posted...
    and it's almost like the more money you can throw around, the more talent you can afford, the better teams you can create, the less "difficult" things get
    clearly crazy concepts for some, true

    It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.

    Often just makes things worse.
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    Deadinsideman posted...
    TheCraigadile posted...
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    The full interview can be watched here:

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.

    outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.

    In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
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    dragulas 1 day ago#67
    CloverKitten posted...
    It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.

    no one said you could, but that's the fault of their management techniques, not the game being "difficult to make"
    maybe with some more money they could hire someone who knows what the f*** they're doing and hasn't phoned it in with this franchise
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    TheCraigadile posted...
    Deadinsideman posted...
    TheCraigadile posted...
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    The full interview can be watched here:

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.

    outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.

    In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
    When I was younger, if I wanted something expensive like a Gamecube, I'd have to pay for half of it and would get two games. I always thought that was fair.

    15 expensive presents on average huh?

    Just when I thought I couldn't despise my parents enough...

    CloverKitten posted...

    It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.

    It's almost like you can't just hire people who are highly competent in all those fields and take the credit.
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    usuratonkachi posted...
    switcmon's going to look like a ps2 game, isn't it?

    Eh. Could be worse.

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    I can't wait for Pokémon with FF7 3D models

    To be honest, I wouldn't be upset if Bravely Sword had a FFVII type of style: chibi models in the overworld and cutscenes, more realistic proportionate models for battles.
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    GnarleyT 1 day ago#71
    This has been an interesting read, I have never seen so many people complain about the franchise before and where its heading. I have played the games since the very beginning and have some friends that have as well, We all took our goggles off long ago.

    I know this hasn't been said out right but I can see a lot of you enjoyed the earlier versions over the newer ones, I feel the lack of story (catch'em all, beat the elite 4) Holds the first one back but given the limited ability of the gameboy this is understandable.

    We started to get some what of a story in silver/gold, each one holding a legendary that you had to learn about and complete objectives to capture, step in the right direction! Black/white happen to be my favorite story of any of the games so far, I wish they would have went more in depth with it and pushed it further but its a game they are selling to kids first.

    X/Y, were decent games where they started adding customization that we have all been begging for since the rise of the DS/3ds era. S/M took it even further by taking away the tired old 8 gyms and giving us something similar to the Orange Islands which I enjoyed, and it is something we seen in the pokemon world before just not the core games (I feel going to the elite 4 and getting a different challenger for awhile after words was a nice add). 

    My concern here is how do these games fail in comparison to the original when there wasn't much post game, no story, no way to change anything about yourself to make you stand out from your friends.

    I have hope for the switch game to add more story elements to maybe bring back a gym system but maybe keep a few challenges around the area, More ways to change things about your character, and lots of post game as I feel the switch opens up more ability to do so. BRING BACK THE CONTEST!

    We do have to keep in mind that this is the first game for the switch so it may not live up to what we want, but its a step in the right direction, and a step away from the DS which is needed because nintendo has been pushing new ones down our throat every year!
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    Deadinsideman posted...
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    Deadinsideman posted...
    TheCraigadile posted...
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    The full interview can be watched here:

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.

    outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.

    In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
    When I was younger, if I wanted something expensive like a Gamecube, I'd have to pay for half of it and would get two games. I always thought that was fair.

    15 expensive presents on average huh?

    Just when I thought I couldn't despise my parents enough...

    Well, I'm sure that's probably just the richest people. I'm sure it's the same in most places. Still, I'm sure a lot of kids will be wanting a Switch, and a lot of Grannies will be buying their grandchildren them.
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    Lexifox 1 day ago#73
    PkmTrainerAbram posted...
    More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.


    Not sure why you'd think that. Speak to any Japanese fans lately?

    Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.


    They don't make console games. This is a console game. People are stupid and hyping up Breath of the Pokemon. They're just telling people not to expect anything extravagant.

    I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.


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    DracoSpire 1 day ago#74
    Rad_Dudesman posted...
    Also I'm pretty sure Masuda is talking about the morons who expect the game to be as big as Skyrim or Breath of the Wild

    You know, the "open world game with every region" idiots

    Pokebuster64 posted...
    Hopefully their just saying this for people hoping for somthing crazy like a full openworld pokemon game with all of the regions

    I can't wait to see the reactions of the whiny, entitled people who immediately jumped on the Switchmons bandwagon and seriously expected that of it.
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    @PkmTrainerAbram posted...
    Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is

    More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.

    Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.

    I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).

    S&M had an amazing reception.

    GTFO.
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    Ragtag28 1 day ago#76
    Juliansgirl posted...
    wow even Gamefreak is losing hope on Pokémon. They might say curtain call of nintenog didn't want to milk them

    What? No?! Did u read at all. All they are saying is that they are enjoying making the game for players and they are asking the players to not have unrealistic expectations of the switch game.
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    We do have to keep in mind that this is the first game for the switch so it may not live up to what we want, but its a step in the right direction, and a step away from the DS which is needed because nintendo has been pushing new ones down our throat every year!

    People said the same thing for the jump to the 3DS with the modeling and whatnot, it's been 4-5 years since, and still no game on the level of BW2 in terms of content. I'm not willing to give them an excuse like this again.

    They don't make console games. This is a console game. People are stupid and hyping up Breath of the Pokemon. They're just telling people not to expect anything extravagant.

    It's funny that you ask if I've heard of Japanese fan reactions when the Switch is marketed as a console/handheld hybrid even more over there.

    They've jumped from GB to GBC to GBA to DS to 3DS. Developing for a new system shouldn't be anything too new or difficult for a company that has been around since the 90s.
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    Dragonage2ftw posted...
    S&M had an amazing reception.

    no it didnt lul
    outside of paid shills like ign reviews it is almost universally criticized for excessive dialogue, downgrading from gen 6 in terms of graphics features and gameplay, and halfassed game design
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    no game on the level of BW2 in terms of content.

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    i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
    the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button
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    Zend 1 day ago#81
    dragulas posted...
    lmao "difficult to make"
    all the amazing games on much better consoles in recent times and pokémon of all things is apparently "difficult to make"
    maybe the "difficult" thing is having to raise their standards to that of the games around them, since they've clearly become complacent in recent years on the 3DS


    You have to remember that Gamefreak has never really been GOOD at making games. They couldn't get Gold/Silver to fit on a GBC cartridge until Iwata stepped in and single handedly cleaned up their coding.
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    they are good at getting your money by reselling you the same f***ing s*** since 1999
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    i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
    the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button


    Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.

    IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.
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    They couldn't get Gold/Silver to fit on a GBC cartridge until Iwata stepped in and single handedly cleaned up their coding.

    Iwata also single-handedly coded Pokemon Stadium as well as fixing some errors found in RGBY. 

    Edit: Oh, and within a week as well.
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    Zend 1 day ago#85
    DRulerLightning posted...
    they are good at getting your money by reselling you the same f***ing s*** since 1999


    If they were the exact same f***ing games as Red/Blue, generations 6/7 would've at least been slightly enjoyable.
    GnarleyT 1 day ago#86
    I am not giving them an excuse or a way out I expect the game to be good, hopefully amazing, but building something from the ground up from portable to home Console is a little different.

    1. Better models and more living city's are possible, larger scale

    2. While we lack the double screen, the main screen is bigger so larger line of site gives the possibility to open up the world a little more with a larger map more paths to follow and trainers doing things besides standing with their hands in their pockets.

    Yes they should be able to pull it off, they should put lots of work in to it, they have no excuses to push out garbage, but they also may make mistakes, this is the one they will need feed back on because this and more is the future of the franchise.
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    Zend posted...
    DRulerLightning posted...
    they are good at getting your money by reselling you the same f***ing s*** since 1999


    If they were the exact same f***ing games as Red/Blue, generations 6/7 would've at least been slightly enjoyable.

    there is a reason why i said 1999 fam
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    Glad to see that even they are saying not to get all hype.

    After Gen 5, people have been overhyping these games like mad only to be outright disappointed in the end, course a good chunk of this is Gamefreaks fault in the first place for their habit of "scrapping mechanics and options that were already good"and often replacing them with something not up to par.
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    too bad nothing that was good was removed until sm
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    ColdOne666 1 day ago#90
    Whats up with all the pathetic losers and trolls ITT. Why are they insulting Gamefreak so much? If they hate Pokemon so much then why are they even on this board?
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    PkmTrainerAbram posted...
    i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
    the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button


    Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.

    IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.

    oh yeah forgot the hollywood thing
    really just garbage filler that serves no purpose other than to be garbage filler but given who im talking to im probably just going to be called a silly casual for not enjoying the filler minigames that have nothing to do with mons gameplay that only veteran fans will enjoy

    not defending sm but all of the content in it except the battle tree is brand new, bw2 is just bw with treehollow slapped on
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    Rad_Dudesman 1 day ago#92
    And all of PWT except for the Hoenn Gym Leaders is copy-pasted from Gen 4
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    pwt is literally just battle tower but with random flavor text literally copypasted from older games
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    brawl__08 1 day ago#94
    PkmTrainerAbram posted...
    Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is

    More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.

    Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.

    I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.

    Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet

    This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).


    Pretty much this, and I actually had fun with SM. There's still an issue they've had between XY, ORAS, and SM that they're just not overcoming for one reason or another, and if this persists then it's nice to know in advance what direction the series is actually deciding to stick with so I can save money when the time comes to see how little Game Freak is willing to do.
    pwt was good for one thing and one thing only
    quick shard grinding lul
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    Gamefreak are a bunch of lazy asses who probably won't take advantage of the switch's increased power.
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    LightningAce11 posted...
    Gamefreak are a bunch of lazy asses who probably won't take advantage of the switch's increased power.

    More like can't I'd imagine. I'd assume they'd play it safe to what they can manage.
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    Zend 1 day ago#98
    ColdOne666 posted...
    Whats up with all the pathetic losers and trolls ITT. Why are they insulting Gamefreak so much? If they hate Pokemon so much then why are they even on this board?


    Why do you care if someone insults Game freak? Every single post you make ends with a signature that insults Nintendo and the people the make their games as well as comic readers. Pretty hypocritical of you, small fry.
    MegaMewtwoX posted...
    PkmTrainerAbram posted...
    i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
    the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button


    Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.

    IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.

    oh yeah forgot the hollywood thing
    really just garbage filler that serves no purpose other than to be garbage filler but given who im talking to im probably just going to be called a silly casual for not enjoying the filler minigames that have nothing to do with mons gameplay that only veteran fans will enjoy

    not defending sm but all of the content in it except the battle tree is brand new, bw2 is just bw with treehollow slapped on


    Ok. So I'm an elitist and I'm not a vetran player. How does that even work.

    At the time BW2 came out all those features were new. You're just ignoring that on purpose.

    And all the features in SM being new? QR scanner was just another Mystery Gift to get one event Legend that could have been gotten with Mystery Gift. The camera minigme was a stripped down version of a console Pokemon game released over two decades ago. Island Scan is a worse version of Dex Nav/ Festival Plaza was a worse version of Join Avenue, which in the game it debuted was brand new.
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    still more than anything from bw

    and the plaza is objectively better than avenue in every single way
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