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Forza Horizon: GOAT racing series or just best we've got?

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Solid Sonic 1 month ago#1
I mean surely you've played better BEFORE and FH is just the last bastion of decent racing games, right? - Results (112 votes)
No, Forza Horizon really does rise above any other racing game to date
74.11%
83
Yeah, it's mostly down to current standards of racing games, there are better games in the past
20.54%
23
It's not even that good by any standard, now or past
5.36%
6
This poll is now closed.
I think it’s great but I do have older racing games that still edge it out. Modern racing games are meh compared to FH.
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Sportsaholic 1 month ago#2
GOAT will always be the first Gran Turismo. Or Need For Speed.
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DeadCellScorpio 1 month ago#3
Agreed GOAT will always be GT 1- GT 2 and some of the Rally games on the OG Xbox.

But let's be realistic nothing has been able to touch or go near the Horizon series the last few years. No this isn't subjective it's a fact.
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Solid Sonic 1 month ago#4
DeadCellScorpio posted...
Agreed GOAT will always be GT 1- GT 2 and some of the Rally games on the OG Xbox.

But let's be realistic nothing has been able to touch or go near the Horizon series the last few years. No this isn't subjective it's a fact.

Hey, I’m allowed to like shitty, exploitative, always online NFS games.
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Rings 1 month ago#5
I’ve never played anything even close to as good as Forza Horizon.

It’s far and away the best racer of all time, and it’s not even close.
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MRL3G3ND 1 month ago#6
idk
I think you have to be a forza fan 
but if you are a forza fan...its kinda hard to appreciate the arcadey-ness lol
like why do you have all of this tuning crap if the AI can do +500hp at will?

but as far as game world, driving mechanics, graphics...its the best of all time
c13rocks 1 month ago#7
Nothing tops Need for Speed Most Wanted. I really like FH, but it has gotten a little stale, adding in vehicles and changing the venue can only do so much. Maybe it is because it is an every other year game. If they pushed it out to every two or three years I think I would be more excited for its release.
DXLR8R 1 month ago#8
To me, PGR4 edges it out, but the Forza Horizon series is the top active series by far for me though.
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Solid Sonic 1 month ago#9
c13rocks posted...
Nothing tops Need for Speed Most Wanted. I really like FH, but it has gotten a little stale, adding in vehicles and changing the venue can only do so much. Maybe it is because it is an every other year game. If they pushed it out to every two or three years I think I would be more excited for its release.

Personally I’m excited because FH3 is so much more fun than FH2, which I consider a substantial letdown after the original game.
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ill-thoughts 1 month ago#10
i like the very first Forza Horizon....everything else is i can do without but awesome racing series for sure.
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RetroGamerX 1 month ago#11
DXLR8R posted...
To me, PGR4 edges it out, but the Forza Horizon series is the top active series by far for me though.


The PGR series needs a reboot.. heck even making them BC would be a start.. but youre right, as of now, nothing comes close to Horizon.
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DeadCellScorpio 1 month ago#12
Solid Sonic posted...
DeadCellScorpio posted...
Agreed GOAT will always be GT 1- GT 2 and some of the Rally games on the OG Xbox.

But let's be realistic nothing has been able to touch or go near the Horizon series the last few years. No this isn't subjective it's a fact.

Hey, I’m allowed to like shitty, exploitative, always online NFS games.


Didn't say you weren't allowed to like those racers :-)
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marcx666 1 month ago#13
Honestly I love Forza Horizon series, but like others, I can't say its the best ever, GT1 and 2 were amazing,FM4, NFS most wanted and Underground 2, PGR, hell the old Colin McCrae rallys which became Dirt. 

Best now, yep, by far, best ever, no, but, they do come close
PJ_Thorn 1 month ago#14
Hard to say, everyone has really specific tastes with racing games. 

I'd agree because it hits exactly the balance of arcade and simulation that I want, has a huge roster of cars, and beautiful open worlds. But sometimes I also want to play some ultra-speed future racer like Wipeout or Redout. Sometimes i want to play Mario Kart.

Not sure you can have a Racing GOAT.
Iscratchmyballs 1 month ago#15
I'm looking forward to Assetto Corsa for PC in September!
Xx_King_Beef_xX 1 month ago#16
RalliSport Challenge was my favorite racing series. I really wish they would bring it back.
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Brownstone 1 month ago#17
I would say yes, at least it's the best arcade racing game of all time. Much better than any NFS game.
flame030191 1 month ago#18
Sportsaholic posted...
GOAT will always be the first Gran Turismo. Or Need For Speed.


This. Gran Turismo 1-6 and NFS Underground, Underground 2, Most Wanted, and Carbon were all the GOAT games.
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Solid Sonic 1 month ago#19
Brownstone posted...
I would say yes, at least it's the best arcade racing game of all time. Much better than any NFS game.

Even if it is you also have to compare it to shit like Burnout or Rush, which are amazing.

But then FH isn’t an arcade game.
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ab2c4 1 month ago#20
It's decent but I thought the PGR and Rallisport Challenge series were A LOT better.
Brownstone 1 month ago#21
Solid Sonic posted...
Brownstone posted...
I would say yes, at least it's the best arcade racing game of all time. Much better than any NFS game.

Even if it is you also have to compare it to shit like Burnout or Rush, which are amazing.

But then FH isn’t an arcade game.


Of course it is.
Solid Sonic 1 month ago#22
No game that makes “slow in, fast out” preferable to powersliding can be an arcade racer.
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DeadCellScorpio 1 month ago#23
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huerito323 1 month ago#24
Brownstone posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
Brownstone posted...
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Even if it is you also have to compare it to shit like Burnout or Rush, which are amazing.

But then FH isn’t an arcade game.


Of course it is.


An arcade racer is something more like Rush, Crusin USA, Split Second, Blur.. Etc. Just completely unrealistic, explosive, super fun gameplay. 

Horizon isn't a sim, but I wouldn't call it an arcade racer either.
Brownstone 1 month ago#25
huerito323 posted...
Brownstone posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
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Of course it is.


An arcade racer is something more like Rush, Crusin USA, Split Second, Blur.. Etc. Just completely unrealistic, explosive, super fun gameplay. 

Horizon isn't a sim, but I wouldn't call it an arcade racer either.


Pretty much what FH is. It doesn't need to be Mario Kart to be arcade.
PJ_Thorn 1 month ago#26
Horizon is a hybrid. It's certainly not a full sim, but it requires a lot more patience and control than NFS or Burnout. I'd put it in the same vein as the old PGR series, or the regular Dirt games for rally.
Solid Sonic 1 month ago#27
Brownstone posted...
huerito323 posted...
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An arcade racer is something more like Rush, Crusin USA, Split Second, Blur.. Etc. Just completely unrealistic, explosive, super fun gameplay. 

Horizon isn't a sim, but I wouldn't call it an arcade racer either.


Pretty much what FH is. It doesn't need to be Mario Kart to be arcade.

It’s not completely unrealistic. The driving conditions can be but the actual technique and car behavior is closer to reality than something like FlatOut. You have more factors to weigh in Forza Horizon than your typical arcade racer.
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DirkMcGurkin 1 month ago#28
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FireDrakeZ 1 month ago#29
DXLR8R posted...
To me, PGR4 edges it out, but the Forza Horizon series is the top active series by far for me though.


I was actually thinking of getting PGR4 for $3 when I saw it at Goodwill a few months ago but thought since I already had too many more recent racing games like the Forza Horizon series and since it was old that it was too dated. When I got home I decided to check it on youtube and decided it was worthwhile to play after all, but when I went back to Goodwill, to my regret, it was gone. 

I would consider the Forza Horizon series the best sim-arcade racing series of all time, but obviously for realism there are better sim racing games that I play on PC with my steering wheel and pedal setup.
Brownstone 1 month ago#30
FireDrakeZ posted...
I would consider the Forza Horizon series the best sim-arcade racing series of all time


Forza Motorsport is simcade, Horizon is arcade. If Horizon is simcade, then it's the only simcade in the world because there is nothing similar to it in the market (and no, The crew is way more arcade than FH).
flame030191 1 month ago#31
Brownstone posted...
FireDrakeZ posted...
I would consider the Forza Horizon series the best sim-arcade racing series of all time


Forza Motorsport is simcade, Horizon is arcade. If Horizon is simcade, then it's the only simcade in the world because there is nothing similar to it in the market (and no, The crew is way more arcade than FH).


Driveclub’s physics feel fairly similar tbh, the major thing that differs between them being that Driveclub is a closed track racing game.
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Solid Sonic 1 month ago#32
To FH? Nah, FH takes more precision than DC (although I’d still lump them in a similar category).
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FireDrakeZ 1 month ago#33
Brownstone posted...
FireDrakeZ posted...
I would consider the Forza Horizon series the best sim-arcade racing series of all time


Forza Motorsport is simcade, Horizon is arcade. If Horizon is simcade, then it's the only simcade in the world because there is nothing similar to it in the market (and no, The crew is way more arcade than FH).


I would say that Forza Motorsport is closer to a sim racing game than Forza Horizon but there are too many arcady racing games in the past that I have played to lump Forza Horizon in that category. I would consider both sim-arcade racing games because of this with FM leaning towards the sim genre more and FH to the arcade genre.
flame030191 1 month ago#34
Solid Sonic posted...
To FH? Nah, FH takes more precision than DC (although I’d still lump them in a similar category).


That’s more or less what I was getting at, a mix of arcade and sim physics designed to be more fun without being over the top. Something like Forza Horizon and Driveclub don’t feel realistic at all, but they’re not nearly as arcadey as Need for Speed and Burnout.
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kennyynnoo 1 month ago#35
Sportsaholic posted...
GOAT will always be the first Gran Turismo. Or Need For Speed.


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b166er01 1 month ago#36
Imo, fh3 is the goat. The metric I'm using is the s*** ton of time I've put in - but not in a chore sense. I should've been at star level (1k) a looong time ago, but it's been fun enough to just eff around with friends and randoms on pg games, dragging, drifting, and role-playing. I'm only at level 670 or so (have to dbl check) - so there's that. Maybe I'll grind Goliath here and there just to get the star before fh4 comes out.

Tied for Second place, I'd say fh2 and Moto gp 3 urt. put a ton of time into those too, but not nearly as much as fh3. 

The only other racers I've put pretty decent time into were Sega rally and burnout 3. Super fun games
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bojangles22 1 month ago#37
Tokyo highway battle series will always be my driving goat.
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ChaosReich 1 month ago#38
Id say my favorite single racing game of all time is Gran Turismo 3 but Forza is by far the better series. Its more consistently good and enjoyable and they started doing crash physics like 8 years ago, something GT still isn't doing. Plus, fuck Polyphony for giving me less then 260 cars, i want to be able to own triple that, which i can't since i dont own an xbox. Im not sure how the Horizon games are or what they're even about, i have an unopened one for my 360 though.
Gunvalkyrie2 1 month ago#39
Requires little skill. Hate follow the arrow racing in which you can never become familiar with a track because every race is different/bland / unmentionable. I know I’m in the minority.

PGR4, jet moto, Burnout 3, Blur, and Split Second are just a few racers that kill it - also - Sonic Transformed and Motorstorm PR.
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Brownstone 1 month ago#40
Gunvalkyrie2 posted...
Requires little skill. Hate follow the arrow racing in which you can never become familiar with a track because every race is different/bland / unmentionable. I know I’m in the minority.


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ThanosSupreme 1 month ago#41
the real KANG of racers
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ApexMjolnir 1 month ago#42
I think Forza Horizon picks up where Midnight Club left off, though, when I play Midnight Club, I feel like I am enjoying the career a bit more than the trash campaign we get in Horizon.

I mean, it's one thing to have a million things to do, and 500+ amazing cars, and Hot Wheels was a fantastic addition, but there is something about a racing game that needs structure. 

Horizon gets it right EARLY on, and then like a kid in a candy store, realizes that there is more to life than jelly beans, and then can't stop eating Gummy Worms until they feel sick, and then understands the differences between Dark and Milk Chocolate, and why Dark is better.

Horizon fails to maintain the attention span of even me. My attention is specifically on getting amazing photos while I am also doing some racing. Many games trick me into playing them, and forgetting about the photos... Horizon, somehow, even reminds me to take photos, something that I turned the game on to do.

If you can't keep a guy like me, focused on playing your game, because I don't know what to do next, you get a fail.

GT2 is still the best racing game I have played during it's time, and in 35+ years of gaming, I have yet to find a racing game that wows me as much.
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sammogard 1 month ago#43
Motorsports miles better
velvet_hammer 1 month ago#44
bbwwahahahaha

Racing enthusiasts clearly continue to choose GT cause its The KANG of racers.. GTS absolutely destroys forza in graphics, physics, racing, MP, and its not even close.. 

Plus lootza continues to have paid dlc, micros, season passes, AND lootboxes.. NONE of which GT has.

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OaklandRaiderz 1 month ago#45
i resort to playing forza because there have not been that many quality racing games in recent history. Its all we got. Aside from project cars 2 and dirt rally imo. 

Forza was nothing special when polyphony and codemasters were in their primes, releasing quality games. 

Shout out to quality arcadey games like midnight club, auto modellista and tokyo xtreme racer which took up most of my time too
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ZDT_Leader 1 month ago#46
I still don’t know what GOAT is.
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Takuru 1 month ago#47
People need to take off the nostalgia goggles.Forza Horizon 3 is one of the best racing games ever made. It's easily a top 5 arcade racer of all time.
Sportsaholic 1 month ago#48
ZDT_Leader posted...
I still don’t know what GOAT is.


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