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Half of you goons can't even properly maintain a basic Windows installation much less identify, install and maintain a Linux distro. You'll be frustrated within minutes and give up. I find it hilarious all of this anti Microsoft, pro Linux talk when I'll bet most of you have never even seen a Linux distro before. I'm calling your bluff.
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You don't want to bet against me guy. You'll lose every time. Every time.
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Been 2 years since i tried a Linux distro. First mint, which couldn't figure out a network card on a desktop motherboard. Then zorin 32 bit on a 64 bit machine could figure it out. Then it couldn't install Chrome cause 32 bit. Finally found old version, but couldn't watch netflix because old Chrome drm didn't work.
Basically the whole thing was a piece of shit right from the start. So yeah, i don't expect many to like Linux.
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Been using *nix since the days when "easy" meant being able to find usenet posts on how to rewrite your NIC driver to support model variations. Get off my lawn
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I don't want to feel, cold winds blowing through me like an empty touch.
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Most likely people don't want to learn Linux, most people want an OS that you can just use and not have to put together and fix constantly.
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I only use socially acceptable operating systems like Windows and OSX.
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Orestes417 posted...
Been using *nix since the days when "easy" meant being able to find usenet posts on how to rewrite your NIC driver to support model variations. Get off my lawn Ugh i remember those. Somewhere on a ubuntu forum is me asking and being told off by nerds trying to get the ISA based sound blaster card to work. Only to find out that isa support was removed and had to be recompiled back into the kernel manually to fix it. I gave up after no one would help me and went back to Windows 95
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I'm talking ten years before ubuntu thought about existing
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mucloud posted...
Most likely people don't want to learn Linux, most people want an OS that you can just use and not have to put together and fix constantly. Sadly Windows 10 is getting to be like this, except the only error messages you ever get are along the lines of "Something happened" |
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Orestes417 posted...
Been using *nix since the days when "easy" meant being able to find usenet posts on how to rewrite your NIC driver to support model variations. Get off my lawn Bah, you had a NIC, that made it easy. Ever do a 24 floppy slackware install? |
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I have. I use Linux and OSX exclusive for work and general use.
Windows is only good for gaming. At this point Ubuntu is far more reliable than Windows for most things. And the updates aren't painful and intrusive. |
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Digital Storm posted...
You don't want to bet against me guy. You'll lose every time. Every time. ^^^^ All GUI based OS's are easy to run TC. No GUI OS made in the last 30 years was designed to inherently be complex. This operating systems were originally designed to make click and go more accessible in contrast to writing out your commands in command prompt. Go use command prompt and learn how to operate windows only with command prompt. I have never tried to forget what I learned until I had to spend hours learning command prompt. I hate that fucking program as awesome as it is.
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fastbilly1 posted...
Orestes417 posted...Been using *nix since the days when "easy" meant being able to find usenet posts on how to rewrite your NIC driver to support model variations. Get off my lawn Knowing him, he's probably got a catalogue of install media still.
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I see no reason to upgrade Windows 7 when the only thing I use it for over Linux is gaming.
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Digital Storm posted...
fastbilly1 posted...Orestes417 posted...show hidden quote(s) You dont? Every IT guy I know has a "just in case" box of media, adapters, and doodads. You never know when you will have to recover data off an 8inch floppy or convert a M12 to RGB to HDMI. |
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fastbilly1 posted...
Orestes417 posted...Been using *nix since the days when "easy" meant being able to find usenet posts on how to rewrite your NIC driver to support model variations. Get off my lawn Among other things yes. and yes, I do still have copies laying around.
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fastbilly1 posted...
Digital Storm posted...fastbilly1 posted...show hidden quote(s) No, when I closed that door in my life and retired, I discarded all the shit I didn't need. I have a few mementos, but that's about it.
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Digital Storm posted... Fair enough. I have been doing it for over 25 years now and see no end in sight. I am very jealous of the retirement. |
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32x2z posted...
Why are you talking to me? I'm not the one crying about Windows. Furthermore I successfully installed Linux Mint on my PS3 years ago. Never used it but was satisfied with the success. 256 MB of RAM on that bad boy lmao.
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protools1983 posted...
32x2z posted... I'm just saiyan.....hehehehehe. I'm not saying you are QQ'ing about windows, I see and read the same topics you do on here. That's pretty impressive you got linux to run on a PS3. I have a spare copy of MAC OSX, Ubuntu (2 years old though), and Windows. I generally stick to OSX and Windows right now. If I ever get a powerful gaming PC again I would run VM Win 10 and deal with the 10% performance loss.
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Linux is annoying. I gave it a try a few years ago. For certain programs, you have to use command line to install it.
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Oh noes. not a basic text interface.
Yeah I got faith, but sometimes fear it just weighs too much,
I don't want to feel, cold winds blowing through me like an empty touch. |
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Orestes417 posted...
Oh noes. not a basic text interface. Windows and Mac OS is easier to use We don't live in the 1980s. You shouldn't need to use command line to for basic functions. |
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I prefer to actually use a computer rather than wasting my time trying to get it to work and getting into dick measuring contests over it. I would like to think technology has progressed to the point where most OS's should mostly work with little configuration.
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Challenge accepted.
After all, all I have is time...!
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megaman4everEXE posted...
Orestes417 posted...Oh noes. not a basic text interface. because it's totally hard bro. totally. I mean why would i want to type a short, unambiguous command when I could waste three times the time opening a gui and looking for an option.
Yeah I got faith, but sometimes fear it just weighs too much,
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I like Linux but it doesn't "just work" like Windows.
I buy a new Xbox One controller and bluetooth adapter and 30 secs later it is bluetoothed synced to my PC and working in games. Don't even want to imagine how long it would take to do that linux
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protools1983 posted...
I successfully installed Linux Mint 
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Rexdragon125 posted...
mucloud posted...This evokes a weird feeling. With W10, I imagined more people would have switched to Mint or the like since both seemed equally nebulous to the new user.Most likely people don't want to learn Linux, most people want an OS that you can just use and not have to put together and fix constantly. Personally I had SunOS and Debian experience from my uni days and finally stopped using Windows entirely by W7. I still have a Win8 and XP machine purely for classic gaming, but it helps I have a hermit mentality and don't expect frequent updates. Ubuntu has a huge support network (mostly fan-made)... Though not exactly for the bleeding edge user, people who use equipment pre-2015 will usually get their questions answered. Puppy is easier to get used to than MacOS (9 or X). Mint resembles an XP machine (good or bad). But I do see Windows as a security blanket people won't let go of, not because it's perfect, but because it's just scary to let go. AfterFortune posted... I buy a new Xbox One controller and bluetooth adapter and 30 secs later it is bluetoothed synced to my PC and working in games. Don't even want to imagine how long it would take to do that linuxAn hour longer? Depending on your hardware, it would take less time. I sync'd Wii-motes quickly using a Buffalo USB Bt but could not get it to work with the built-in Bt adapter.
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Pako Pako posted...
It's not that it's scary, it's that they're too lazy.
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Digital Storm posted...
It's not that it's scary, it's that they're too lazy. All generalizations are dangerous. Even this one. I'm having issues with jumping to Win10 as a gaming platform because I am scared it will take over my life with updates.. And I am lazy to devote space and time to it.
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32x2z posted...
protools1983 posted...32x2z posted...show hidden quote(s) Not really, he likely followed a tutorial and had it done in 30 minutes or less. Installing a pre-packaged Linux distro doesn't make you John Carmack.
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Rexdragon125 posted...
I prefer to actually use a computer rather than wasting my time trying to get it to work and getting into dick measuring contests over it Then you're on the wrong forum friend.
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Also I would never trust mint after that security blunder. Get Fedora Cinnamon or Debian Cinnamon instead
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JKatarn posted...
Rexdragon125 posted...I prefer to actually use a computer rather than wasting my time trying to get it to work and getting into dick measuring contests over it This is a PC gaming forum, not some fan forum for shoddy OS's |
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JKatarn posted...
32x2z posted...protools1983 posted...show hidden quote(s) It's a feat I've never accomplished myself. I never modded my consoles for any reason because it was there strictly to play games for that manufacturer. No mods on my Xbox, I'm here to play Halo 2/3 and CoD4/WaW. I think the only modded thing I had for consoles was gameshark and some random russian GBA cart with 100+ games on it from atari. Rexdragon125 posted... JKatarn posted...Rexdragon125 posted...show hidden quote(s) Hey hey hey, we talk about whatever we want here. French toast, waffles, pancakes, and sausage+syrup while TC is bashing AMD? Absolutely. Disguised Trump topic in the form of PC tariffs with the aim for 500? No doubt about it. Calling final fantasy characters effeminate to cause backlash from the JRPG'ers on this board? You can bet your ass that'll happen and has happened. Talking about inflation and shitting on Canada disguised as a "Where to buy PC Parts in Canada" topic? Right here on PCH man. In all seriousness, an operating system is PCH material to converse about.
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32x2z posted...
It's a feat I've never accomplished myself. I never modded my consoles for any reason because it was there strictly to play games for that manufacturer. No mods on my Xbox, I'm here to play Halo 2/3 and CoD4/WaW. I think the only modded thing I had for consoles was gameshark and some random russian GBA cart with 100+ games on it from atari. I haven't bothered to mod my PS3/Wii etc. either - but there's no shortage of resources should I wish to do so. If you follow the instructions it's really not that hard, it's not like he compiled Linux for the PS3 personally, he just downloaded a packaged and followed the directions.
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Rexdragon125 posted...
This is a PC gaming forum, not some fan forum for shoddy OS's My point was that in reality this has become a trolling/e-peen measuring forum. Whatever it's "supposed" to be is irrelevant.
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Digital Storm posted...
Pako Pako posted... Not even lazy really. It's the notion of moving from a currently working system for no real benefit. Realistically the only way average people are going to switch is being able to walk into their local walmart and buy an equally priced, equally marketed *nix laptop or desktop from an OEM. ChromeOS devices are already proving that.
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JKatarn posted...
32x2z posted...It's a feat I've never accomplished myself. I never modded my consoles for any reason because it was there strictly to play games for that manufacturer. No mods on my Xbox, I'm here to play Halo 2/3 and CoD4/WaW. I think the only modded thing I had for consoles was gameshark and some random russian GBA cart with 100+ games on it from atari. Black_Assassin posted... protools1983 posted...I successfully installed Linux Mint I couldn't resist.
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Back in the 90s I actually got certified to be a unix sys admin and then never found any work doing that but it got me employed because SOME college looked better on my resume than none (I guess).
Anyway, I still have the install discs for some kind of linux that doesn't even exist anymore (caldera I think...) and it wasn't hard to use, just different. If you never tried to do anything new then everything looks hard I guess. However I did try ubuntu again like 5 years ago and had trouble getting it working right until I tried the LTS version...that would probably be what I would do again. |
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32x2z posted...
JKatarn posted...32x2z posted...show hidden quote(s) Reminds me of how diluted the terms "nerd", "geek" etc. have become in the last 10 years. Those terms used to have some significance - generally denoting a depth of knowledge in a specific area, now it seems anybody who owns a game console/knows how to use a few apps or even has interests that lie outside of sports and sex is considered a "nerd".
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megaman4everEXE posted...
Orestes417 posted...Oh noes. not a basic text interface. Why didn't you just use the Software Center? Any of the common distros have some variation of it and have had for years and years. Since it sits on top of the package manger, any software you can download and install from the command line, you can also install from the Software Center. Mint's one even acts as a store - you can browse categories and leave reviews and ratings of software. The only time you'd need to use the command line to install something is a) you're compiling something from source which I wouldn't call a "basic function" or b) it's to install some tool that's not in the default repositories and there is a quick script you can use that sets it up. Those are usually more advanced in some fashion, e.g., NodeJS. And even then the command line is usually something that downloads the setup script and executes it, the script itself just adds a new repository (which you can do manually), fetches the info from it (same), and installs the package needed (ditto). So, it seems to me that, you either went with something that's not "basic function" and now complain, or you used the easier way to download and install something that still has a UI way to achieve the same result, and now you complain, or you simply didn't know how to even install something through the UI and now you complain.
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JKatarn posted...
32x2z posted...JKatarn posted...show hidden quote(s) Kinda like the word hacking. I remember when hacking involved physically/electronically (you know what I mean) gaining access to someones computer and manipulating it. When I was a younger I may or may not have gone into open WIFI networks, and then go into the computers that were connected to the network and check out their stuff. That was "hacking" to people but in my mind it wasn't hacking at all. Hell people thought changing someones wifi password was hacking when they can just reset the router. If you wanna really mess them up download some CP on their network, call 911 over it, say NSA code words, and take their files from their PC like the sex videos and work files. I may or may not have found credit card info one time. I can't be the only one who may or may not have done this type of stuff to push boundaries back when WIFI networks first came about.
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protools1983 posted...
Half of you goons can't even properly maintain a basic Windows installation This has been one of the more surprising revelations about this board for me. People suck at computers. But think they don't and thereby give objectively awful advice about computers
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I'd much rather spend the day setting up a ten year old Linux distro on a twice as old PC than I would researching and piecing together/building a PC.
It's literally that easy.
- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.
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d209999 posted...
protools1983 posted...Half of you goons can't even properly maintain a basic Windows installation This. So much this. I did not have to reinstall my last core PC for 8 years, and it even made the jump to windows 10 with only minor hiccups. I maintained my system, and Wow, hey, look at that. no issues. As long as you understand what you're doing, it's pretty easy to not fuck up a PC, and even easier to un-fuck it with a little digging. As for Linux, I have no issue with it personally, just don't use it as I have no real need for it. Had to use it a lot in college though. Programming little ARM boards to do stuff was fun.
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Been using Ubuntu since 8.04. Hate everything after 10.04, but I still won't go back to Windows. My next gaming rig will likely be some form of 18.04 and run Win10 in a VM because fuck dedicating a box to windows just for a few games/apps.
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d209999 posted...
protools1983 posted...Half of you goons can't even properly maintain a basic Windows installation Even worse, ignorance is encouraged and in fact worshipped.
Yeah I got faith, but sometimes fear it just weighs too much,
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Thursday, August 23, 2018
Those of you saying you will drop Windows for Linux: Bet you won't
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