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Thursday, August 23, 2018

Octopath is the most overrated average JRPG in years

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JGtrance88 3 hours ago#1
Huge jrpg fan here: Octopath is hands down, the most overrated JRPG released in years.

How people are finding this one of the best JRPGs released shows how lost people are on the genre.

First off, literally every story, besides maybe primrose, is nothing but boring generic JRPG tropes that are some of the most lazy writing seen in quite awhile.

They way you bounce from boring story to story is quite frankly one of the most awful ways of telling a story I’ve ever seen in a videogame.

The combat is decent, the job system that feels like it was imported straight from FFV is very nice, but when the actual story lines are complete trash, the game becomes tedious.

Also what on earth is up with the boss fights taking F O R E V E R? It wouldn’t mean as much if they weren’t so slow, but my god, these are some of the most sleep inducing boss fights I’ve seen in ages.

SO many better JRPGs have come out recently (persona 5, SMT IV APOCALYPSE, etrian odyssey V, xenoblade chronicles 2) make this game look so average in comparison. Hands down the most overhyped game In the genre in years
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rayneth 3 hours ago#2
Tl:DR

Personally I love it.
riboflav 2 hours ago#3
rayneth posted...
Tl:DR

Personally I love it.

Like McDonald's, "I'm lovin' it"
JackBurns83 2 hours ago#4
I really ❤ ed the game. A couple of the stories I didn’t like but the other stories I liked especially Primrose - she’s my girl, the art style is amazing, and the gameplay is really addictive and super fun. Plus I liked that there’s a story after all the stories are done that ties all the stories together. 

One of the best RPGs this gen.

Thanks for sharing ^-^
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Judgment100 2 hours ago#5
I had more fun with it than any turn-based JRPG other than Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 9, so.
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Chilly0123 2 hours ago#6
Huge JRPG fan here, Octopath is one of the few good ones we've gotten in years.
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JGtrance88 2 hours ago#7
Chilly0123 posted...
Huge JRPG fan here, Octopath is one of the few good ones we've gotten in years.


You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10
All hail atlus
BoganZ 2 hours ago#8
I know it's not a JRPG but I had a lot more fun with Battle Chasers Nightwar before I played Octopath. I still haven't launched Octopath for about 3 weeks, I feel like I've already experienced it all even though I've only done everyone's 1st chapter.
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BenjaMan64 2 hours ago#9
JackBurns83 posted...
Plus I liked that there’s a story after all the stories are done that ties all the stories together.

Slightly spoilerish... Yet also intriguing.
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Judgment100 2 hours ago#10
JGtrance88 posted...
You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

Please, do share. 

I'm dying for more.
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Matelite 2 hours ago#11
Tropes exist for a reason, bruh...
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The reason I didn't buy it was that it seemed like the epitome of average, and nothing so far has changed my perception. I also feel like all stories not converging will leave me feeling empty. I played the first demo and watched a bunch of YouTubers talk about the game, none of them said anything that sold the game to me, although most of them "liked" it, it looks really really standard. Not unlikable, but really standard.

JGtrance88 posted...
Chilly0123 posted...
Huge JRPG fan here, Octopath is one of the few good ones we've gotten in years.


You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

Also yeah, JRPGs have been great last few years. What is this guy on?
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JackBurns83 2 hours ago#13
BenjaMan64 posted...
JackBurns83 posted...
Plus I liked that there’s a story after all the stories are done that ties all the stories together.

Slightly spoilerish... Yet also intriguing.

Well I didn’t really spoil any of the stories tho :/

I still haven’t finished it. The final boss is really hard :<
Corophi 2 hours ago#14
Its called nostalgia pandering and Final Fantasy babies TC. Get with the program. Join us or be left out.
Alacrity 2 hours ago#15
JGtrance88 posted...
Chilly0123 posted...
Huge JRPG fan here, Octopath is one of the few good ones we've gotten in years.


You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

''See, my opinion is more right than yours, which means you're not a real JRPG fan''
Hmm, maybe different people look for different things in JRPGs. You obviously look for stories that are unique and unpredictable, maybe he doesn't care as much about the story as long as it does a decent job of motivating you to finish the game? Or maybe he actually likes the stories and characters and doesn't mind the JRPG tropes because he actually likes JRPGs and its tropes?
Alacrity 2 hours ago#16
Corophi posted...
Its called nostalgia pandering and Final Fantasy babies TC. Get with the program. Join us or be left out.

Never played a single FF game and i loved OT. Looks like you'll have to find another excuse
Zeon 2 hours ago#17
JGtrance88 posted...
considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years,

this part i agree with.

People have become very close-minded over time...
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JGtrance88 2 hours ago#18
Judgment100 posted...
JGtrance88 posted...
You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

Please, do share. 

I'm dying for more.


Shin megami tensei apocalypse, SMT strange journey redux, Etrian odyssey IV, V, Untold, radiant historia perfect, rune factory IV, persona 5 (persona 4G can be included as well) xenoblade chronicles 2 are all leagues better than octo
All hail atlus
JackBurns83 2 hours ago#19
Corophi posted...
Its called nostalgia pandering and Final Fantasy babies TC. Get with the program. Join us or be left out.

Well I’d just like to say I started gaming on the Xbox and haven’t played many retro games before that and never played a final fantasy game. So nothing nostalgic to me :/
ShieldSmasher 2 hours ago#20
It’s a mediocre game.
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riboflav 2 hours ago#21
Alacrity posted...
JGtrance88 posted...
Chilly0123 posted...
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You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

''See, my opinion is more right than yours, which means you're not a real JRPG fan''
Hmm, maybe different people look for different things in JRPGs. You obviously look for stories that are unique and unpredictable, maybe he doesn't care as much about the story as long as it does a decent job of motivating you to finish the game? Or maybe he actually likes the stories and characters and doesn't mind the JRPG tropes because he actually likes JRPGs and its tropes?


This was a very wise comment, could be the smartest one I've ever seen here.

The stories are what makes RPGs great to some people, some like the combat, etc.

Similarly, the most important thing in a game to me is exploration/beautiful game world. That's why I like BOTW as my fav. game ever. Others hate that so maybe they like Mario Odyssey better.

We all have different tastes based on previous gaming experiences.
toadieman 2 hours ago#22
JGtrance88 posted...
Judgment100 posted...
JGtrance88 posted...
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Please, do share. 

I'm dying for more.


Shin megami tensei apocalypse, SMT strange journey redux, Etrian odyssey IV, V, Untold, radiant historia perfect, rune factory IV, persona 5 (persona 4G can be included as well) xenoblade chronicles 2 are all leagues better than octo


Etrian Odyssey - barely any story
Persona - jrpg tropes galore
Radiant historia is good
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TalesRevenant 2 hours ago#23
I don't know if it's overrated since I haven't seen anyone really talk about it outside the internet but it certainly isn't that good. It's decent. There's other RPGs this gen that are better, many others.
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TalesRevenant posted...
I don't know if it's overrated since I haven't seen anyone really talk about it outside the internet but it certainly isn't that good. It's decent. There's other RPGs this gen that are better, many others.


Wonder if you'll name a few so that fellow RPG fans can look into them.
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riboflav 2 hours ago#26
ShieldSmasher posted...
It’s a mediocre game.

To you, but it's an amazing game to many others. That's why it's so popular.

It's just one of those times that your opinions don't match with the majority, no big deal.

You would be wise to ignore game reviews then and don't rely on them for your information IMO.
ShieldSmasher 2 hours ago#27
freedumbdclxvi posted...
“Why do people like things I don’t?”

Because some have higher standards than others, that must be why.
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Judgment100 2 hours ago#28
JGtrance88 posted...
Shin megami tensei apocalypse, SMT strange journey redux, Etrian odyssey IV, V, Untold, radiant historia perfect, rune factory IV, persona 5 (persona 4G can be included as well) xenoblade chronicles 2 are all leagues better than octo

Persona 5 is a treasure. I agree. I've already played through it, sadly. P4G was okay, but lacked the style of 5 and honestly I just hated the shit out of most of the cast. 

I don't generally like SMT, but thank you for the recommendations. They are good games, just not really my speed.

I like XBC2 more than Octo, agreed. 

I don't think Etrian Odyssey are very good RPGs, or Rune Factory, but those are your opinions and I respect them. 

Radiant Historia is an oooold game, but I guess the remaster/remake/whatever is fairly recent, so sure.
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ShieldSmasher posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
“Why do people like things I don’t?”

Because some have higher standards than others, that must be why.

It's why people gobble up every indie "gem" on Switch.
ShieldSmasher posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
“Why do people like things I don’t?”

Because some have higher standards than others, that must be why.

It is tough to reach the high bar of harassing women online via alts, true.
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Reverted_Pikkon posted...
ShieldSmasher posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
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Because some have higher standards than others, that must be why.

It's why people gobble up every indie "gem" on Switch.


Just how people gobbled up every port/remaster in the early PS4 days?
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Why did Tales delete his comment about FFXV being only two points below OT?
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Meggamanfan556 posted...
Just how people gobbled up every port/remaster in the early PS4 days?

How many of those were pixelated rouge-lites?
freedumbdclxvi posted...
Why did Tales delete his comment about FFXV being only two points below OT?


Maybe he thought he was on the other account.
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Reverted_Pikkon posted...
Meggamanfan556 posted...
Just how people gobbled up every port/remaster in the early PS4 days?

How many of those were pixelated rouge-lites?


How many of them were games people had played in the previous gen and paid full price for?
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Most overrated JRPG in years? With the existence of Persona 5?
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ShieldSmasher posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
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It is tough to reach the high bar of harassing women online via alts, true.

I know a guy from a different board who has doxed users, but that’s a discussion for another day. 

Also I actually have no alts.

My mistake then.
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Octopath has pretty darn good gameplay to carry it even if the storytelling is pretty average.
meiyuki 2 hours ago#41
JGtrance88 posted...
Shin megami tensei apocalypse, SMT strange journey redux, Etrian odyssey IV, V, Untold, radiant historia perfect, rune factory IV, persona 5 (persona 4G can be included as well) xenoblade chronicles 2 are all leagues better than octo


To be fair, while Etrian is good, it really doesn't have any story to write home about. It's good for it's gameplay and exploration not it's story. XC2 is an absolute mess of cliches, bad writing techniques, plot holes, and tonal clashes. To use that as an example over octopath is honestly laughable.
creativerealms posted...
Most overrated JRPG in years? With the existence of Persona 5?

Obviously YMMV, but P5 lived up to the hype for me. It and XC2 would have fought over my personal GOTY last year if it weren’t for DQXI being released.
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Andros-2k10 2 hours ago#43
JGtrance88 posted...
First off, literally every story, besides maybe primrose, is nothing but boring generic JRPG tropes that are some of the most lazy writing seen in quite awhile.


And this is why I can't take your post serious.
JJR82 2 hours ago#44
ShieldSmasher posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
ShieldSmasher posted...
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It is tough to reach the high bar of harassing women online via alts, true.

I know a guy from a different board who has doxed users, but that’s a discussion for another day. 

Also I actually have no alts.

Lololol. Riiight
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Pharsti01 2 hours ago#45
Meh, that's how I feel about Xenoblade.

To each their own I guess.
freedumbdclxvi posted...
creativerealms posted...
Most overrated JRPG in years? With the existence of Persona 5?

Obviously YMMV, but P5 lived up to the hype for me. It and XC2 would have fought over my personal GOTY last year if it weren’t for DQXI being released.

Oh it's a very good game. When I say overrated I don't mean bad.
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creativerealms posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
creativerealms posted...
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Obviously YMMV, but P5 lived up to the hype for me. It and XC2 would have fought over my personal GOTY last year if it weren’t for DQXI being released.

Oh it's a very good game. When I say overrated I don't mean bad.

Got it. Sometimes it’s hard to gauge how overrated is meant, but now I get your meaning.
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Meggamanfan556 posted...
@TalesRevenant posted...
I don't know if it's overrated since I haven't seen anyone really talk about it outside the internet but it certainly isn't that good. It's decent. There's other RPGs this gen that are better, many others.


Wonder if you'll name a few so that fellow RPG fans can look into them.


Come on man, I'd love me some RPG action.
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Chilly0123 2 hours ago#49
JGtrance88 posted...
Chilly0123 posted...
Huge JRPG fan here, Octopath is one of the few good ones we've gotten in years.


You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

Loads of great ones like what? Persona 5 comes to mind as another great one, maybe Battle Chasers, but that's about it. I play a lot of JRPGs, but lately i'm just disappointed in most of them. Hopefully DQ 11 is another good one, i'm really looking forward to it.
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TalesRevenant 2 hours ago#50
Chilly0123 posted...
JGtrance88 posted...
Chilly0123 posted...
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You must not be one, considering loads of great ones have been coming out for years, that make octo look like a 5/10

Loads of great ones like what? Persona 5 comes to mind as another great one, maybe Battle Chasers, but that's about it. I play a lot of JRPGs, but lately i'm just disappointed in most of them. Hopefully DQ 11 is another good one, i'm really looking forward to it.


There's a lot.

Persona 5 is a big one. NieR Automata, Bloodborne, FFXV, NNK2, etc...

And The Witcher 3 deserves to be on your list if you like RPGs, period. I hate this JRPG\WRPG nonsense. They're all RPGs and Witcher 3 is the best this gen has to offer, thus far.
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