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All companies are greedy. However then it comes to gaming i doubt anyone will challenge EA. Not just their horrible practices with MTX and such but their ability to ruin talented devs into the ground. Nintendo was never very creative with their games but people continue to buy them so why change formula that works.
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butthole666 posted...Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable Different beasts imo. Maybe not quite equals, but not wholly different leagues, just different tactics
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Thrasher7170 posted...butthole666 posted...show hidden quote(s) TrashPandaJedi posted... All companies are greedy. However then it comes to gaming i doubt anyone will challenge EA. Not just their horrible practices with MTX and such but their ability to ruin talented devs into the ground. Putting anyone one the same level as EA is practically revisionist toward's EA's shittiness, as TrashPandaJedi pointed out in this post.
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HellsController posted...
I agree with you. Nintendo makes some pretty great games. But they’re the greediest game company out there. And what’s best is that people are willingly oblivious to it. More like spoiled shits like yourself don't really look around much.
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HellsController posted...I agree with you. Nintendo makes some pretty great games. But they’re the greediest game company out there. And what’s best is that people are willingly oblivious to it. Fucking seething lmao |
Eh I'd make a case that Activision is even more scummy than EA but not by much. It's just that EA pulls off some epic greedy moves whereas Activision is just consistently and constantly more scummy.
Nintendo has their own share of garbage they pull but they've at least restrained themselves from doing the worst of the worst tactics that the likes of EA, Activision, WB, Ubi, etc do. |
Ya_dun_goofed posted...
HellsController posted...I agree with you. Nintendo makes some pretty great games. But they’re the greediest game company out there. And what’s best is that people are willingly oblivious to it. Bro I worked my ass off to afford a Switch and I’ve been buying games and like basic accessories piecemeal for it bc of Nintendo’s pricing and frequent product scarcity foh with this spoiled shit
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butthole666 posted...
Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable Umm Ea, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Activision, MS, Sony, and pretty much all the "AAA" third parties smoke them in the anti conumer shit.
AstralFrost: What part is unique about the Wii U thats actually positive? The underpowered console? The direct ipad ripoff controller? The slew of platformers?
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SyCo_VeNoM posted...
butthole666 posted...Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable How is Bethesda bad again? I know everything they release is a bug infested mess, but they at least leave the door open for modders to fix it.
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Thrasher7170 posted...
SyCo_VeNoM posted...butthole666 posted...show hidden quote(s) There has been quite a bit of scandal revolving around Fallout 76 One of which was the collectors edition bag
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Thrasher7170 posted...
SyCo_VeNoM posted...butthole666 posted...show hidden quote(s) look at FO76 bugs galore, minimum work, the price plummeted 2 weeks after launch, and switching out a canvas bag for a nylon bag in the $200 CE that makes a plastic shopping bag look strong(said it cost too much for what would cost less then $5 to make). Then gave $4.99 in in game currency to players as compensation which couldn't even buy the in game canvas bag as that was $7 lol. Finally after they gave in on the CE they exposed the names, addresses, and other info of customers who signed up to get the real canvas bags through a half ass made website. Also they never fix their fuckin bugs. Even remasters still have the same issues that the originals had. IMO that is a terrible business practice. Hell even EA, UBI, and Activision usually fix their buggy games, but Bethesda is like YOLO when it comes to working on a game once they push it out they ignore it. Hell EA with BF5 I think only did a better job at giving fans the middle finger(on PC at least). 2 weeks after launch making BF5 $30 if you own a copy of BF1, or 4(which most ppl who bought the game would), and then saying no refunds, or partial refunds to the day one buyers. In all truth I think it is almost impressive how badly EA fucked this up they pretty much eclipsed Bethesda in the negative gaming news this week lol
AstralFrost: What part is unique about the Wii U thats actually positive? The underpowered console? The direct ipad ripoff controller? The slew of platformers?
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butthole666 posted...Nintendo as a creative entity is unmatched Have an actual argument to the contrary, boy? |
Exurna posted...
Maverick_Reznor posted...Eh, could be a lot worse Both talking about Sony, yet hypocrite @NintendoGamer83 staying quiet as always. @Exurna, AKA, Karmic. Getting crushed like always.
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I'm just going to leave this here as MatPat does talk about this subject matter in his video, but it does have some spoilers for the Smash series, so just a heads up:
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Jikkle posted...
Eh I'd make a case that Activision is even more scummy than EA but not by much. It's just that EA pulls off some epic greedy moves whereas Activision is just consistently and constantly more scummy. Game companies at least do not have monopoly power, nor do they just make money with financial gambling. I nominate some more venal companies out there: Microsoft, Amazon, ConEdison, United Airlines, Exxon, Pfizer, Lockheed Martin, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Comcast. The list is never ending. |
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Game companies at least do not have monopoly power, nor do they just make money with financial gambling. I nominate some more venal companies out there:Copyrights are monopolies. Think about it. Nintendo's able to shut down fan games for a reason. Likewise, they are making money off gambling with money. People are able to buy loot boxes with real currency directly or indirectly by converting real money to in game cash and then buying it. There's now countries that see loot boxes as a form of gambling by law and aren't looking to kindly towards companies that market games with the since children play these games, even if the rating suggest they shouldn't be playing them.
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Hmmm...EA, Bethesda, Activision(Blizzard), Ubisoft, 2K Games, Mobile Game Devs, Square-Enix (mostly with Final Fantasy / stuff like Quiet Man)...
As bad and baffling as Nintendo is some / most of the time, they are one of the few left that don't either spew out total trash or don't drown the game in loot box / micro-transaction hell. They day they do I'll agree with this topic but right now they've yet to do this with their specific IP's and store/misc stuff people use their brand (except Amiibos but that's a more personal gripe).
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Hmmm...EA, Bethesda, Activision(Blizzard), Ubisoft, 2K Games, Mobile Game Devs, Square-Enix (mostly with Final Fantasy / stuff like Quiet Man)...They're getting there. Amiibos, DLC, paid online. It seems like it might just be a matter of time before they try it with Animal Crossing.
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I really hope you're wrong but I can't say I would be that surprised. I'm still holding out hope that the online service will get a lot better and fix the functionality of the service and maybe even give us some N64 or Gamecube titles for the online.
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butthole666 posted...Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable nintendo is the apple of gaming. everything is overpriced and 10 years old compared to the competition.
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FeltMarker22 posted...
I really hope you're wrong but I can't say I would be that surprised. I'm still holding out hope that the online service will get a lot better and fix the functionality of the service and maybe even give us some N64 or Gamecube titles for the online.I've never had much faith in the online fee. Partially because there have been a few game developers that stated it's coming out of their pocket, not the console makers'. And if they're able to do that through sales and dlc, than it makes paid online seem like a way for console makers to get money through a practice that compares to both ransomware and piracy. As for Animal Crossing, it's possible. The original game had grab bags. Crazy red sells forged paintings. I see potential for it to be abused. I don't know much about how things work in Pokemon LGP/E. If I remember correctly, Pokemon Go had microtransactions, so I'm not sure if those two have them or not, but they do link to Go, so I'm not sure if that counts for anything or not in your book.
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Mohan101 posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...show hidden quote(s) 200 dollar ps4's with a game low prices on the biggest best games. god of war 17 bucks? ps4 has bonus features like netflix, blueray, etc actual good graphics for what you pay for compared to nintendos wii/wii u graphics. nintendo has been keeping all the money for themselves instead of putting it into their games. look at smash 4 and ultimate. They are near identical. psplus is 40 bucks and you get more free blockbuster games from that alone then nintendo has released this whole generation.
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Nintendo is no worse than most sizable corporations. They do good stuff, they do bad stuff. I'd say their pros outweigh their cons. Just support the good, and call out the bad. Besides, at the very least, we should be glad Nintendo isn't a monolithic, overbearing conglomerate like Google or Disney, those tend to be the worst (Google in particular).
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Shinobi120 posted...Mohan101 posted...show hidden quote(s) On point.
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Shinobi120 posted...Mohan101 posted...show hidden quote(s) I stopped reading when you said smash 4 and ultimate are near identical. |
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kirbyhoakage posted...Shinobi120 posted...show hidden quote(s) With troll logic and using Black Friday sales
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Shinobi120 posted...Mohan101 posted...show hidden quote(s) Black Friday sales, seriously? Also, Switch is more powerful than either the Wii or the Wii U. Plus Smash for Wii U & Ultimate are nowhere near identical; Ultimate uses a completely different engine. |
ponyseizures posted...
I agree with the first half, and vaguely the second half. They understock so they can say they sold out at x retailers worldwide!!! when in reality they only moved so many units. It’s a dishonest way of curbing sales expectations.
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butthole666 posted...
ponyseizures posted...I agree with the first half, and vaguely the second half. Or you know they “understock” becsuse as a business when you overstock products not only do you fuck retailers over but also yourself as you now have a situation where retailers will not stock your product the same way
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Jinzo 111887 posted...escapist posted...
Game companies at least do not have monopoly power, nor do they just make money with financial gambling. I nominate some more venal companies out there:
Copyrights are monopolies. Think about it. Nintendo's able to shut down fan games for a reason. Likewise, they are making money off gambling with money. People are able to buy loot boxes with real currency directly or indirectly by converting real money to in game cash and then buying it. There's now countries that see loot boxes as a form of gambling by law and aren't looking to kindly towards companies that market games with the since children play these games, even if the rating suggest they shouldn't be playing them.
Microsoft, Amazon, ConEdison, United Airlines, Exxon, Pfizer, Lockheed Martin, Goldman Sachs, Citibank, Comcast. The list is never ending.
Well, Nintendo's copyrights over Mario and Link pale in comparison to the profits and utter exploitation of MS Windows and pharmaceuticals. You can live without any video game. You can't live without spreadsheets and trademarked medications.escapist posted...Well, Nintendo's copyrights over Mario and Link pale in comparison to the profits and utter exploitation of MS Windows and pharmaceuticals. You can live without any video game. You can't live without spreadsheets and trademarked medications.
Microsoft has the Xbox brand and they exploit gamers with Xbox Live Gold through paid online, even with third party games, which is pretty much like piracy seeing as they don't run the servers for third party and indie games. Same goes for PlayStation Network and Nintendo Switch Online. In Nintendo's case, it's a bit more hypocritical as they have a strong stance on piracy, but they're doing it themselves. As for Windows and Microsoft office, there is legit competition. You can run Linux on a PC and install software such as Wine and Libre Office to get things done. You could also run ReactOS instead if you want.Putting basic functionality of a system like online multiplayer and the ability to back up data behind a premium membership shows little faith in it.Nintendo as a creative entity USED to be unmatched.
Bore of the Walking was easily the most uninspired, most derivative game of all time. Not a single new idea. Trying way too hard to be Skyrim.
Apparently we have to wait 10 years between 3D Marios to get something actually new and creative now.I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy... All right, give me the bomb. -Ultra MagnusemagdnE posted...Nintendo as a creative entity USED to be unmatched.
Bore of the Walking was easily the most uninspired, most derivative game of all time. Not a single new idea. Trying way too hard to be Skyrim.
Apparently we have to wait 10 years between 3D Marios to get something actually new and creative now.
I have serious doubts that you played videogames before 2011"Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100sThey used to be the best of both worlds for a very long time. They only recently got a bit greedy and stubborn
Started around the Wii days sometime once they sold like 100 mil ontop of what they sold for 3DS
But I think they’re honestly lazy now too. Online is huge, it brings people together and it’s fun. They should go all in with it, and do it THIER way so we have fun but also keep it extremely family oriented. Just regulate the communication heavily I dont care just have online. Maybe we register who we want to talk to that way no terrible interactions can occurPaper Mario (N64) is a masterpiece.Maverick_Reznor posted...Thrasher7170 posted...
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How is Bethesda bad again? I know everything they release is a bug infested mess, but they at least leave the door open for modders to fix it.
There has been quite a bit of scandal revolving around Fallout 76
One of which was the collectors edition bag
One bad game doesn't put them anywhere near the level of Nintendo."Tiger got to sleep, Bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand."
I narrate RPGs erry Tuesday @ 6pm EST https://www.twitch.tv/sonofstapesTo be honest...Super Mario Odyssey is by far Nintendo's most creative game in a LOOOOONG time.
BotW was really good, but more a typical open world...and Ulimate is more of a refined very improved Smash 4 with mostly returning content from past Smash games...like an all-out Smash remix...but it really is just more Smash, not really a big revolution for the series. Brawl was the last time Smash had a big change.
I kind of miss the Melee and Brawl days where Smash would make these drastic changes and go all out on brand new content.
I don't think Nintendo has been that creative lately.imkindafunny posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...
Thrasher7170 posted...
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There has been quite a bit of scandal revolving around Fallout 76
One of which was the collectors edition bag
One bad game doesn't put them anywhere near the level of Nintendo.
"One"List of words considered flaming when used against Sony fans: Drone,Pony,Troll,Fanboy,Toxic.
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One bad game doesn't put them anywhere near the level of Nintendo.
"One"
I'm sure you meant that in a sarcastic tone, or something, but it really just makes it look like you're learning your numbers.
Hint: the next one is "Two""Tiger got to sleep, Bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand."
I narrate RPGs erry Tuesday @ 6pm EST https://www.twitch.tv/sonofstapesJikkle posted...Eh I'd make a case that Activision is even more scummy than EA but not by much. It's just that EA pulls off some epic greedy moves whereas Activision is just consistently and constantly more scummy.
Nintendo has their own share of garbage they pull but they've at least restrained themselves from doing the worst of the worst tactics that the likes of EA, Activision, WB, Ubi, etc do.
The difference is that Activision knows when they do wrong, and tries to make up for it. EA does wrong, knows it's wrong before doing it, says they won't do it again, and then does it again two weeks later."If the anime doesn't make me question if I'm on cocaine, then it's not worth my time" - The greatest human being who ever lived.Nah.
BotW, Mario Odyssey, and SmUsh were all pretty safe and drab, even if fun.
You want true creativity, look no further than Taro or Suda games, the latter has one coming out next month despite a lot of morons here crying about it "looking like an indie game"- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.butthole666 posted...Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable
I think you have it exactly backwards.
Is this really your username? If so, why?
Did you create this username to provide topics filled with truth and positivity? I would think that someone who wants to provide info/truth would use a username that isn't like yours.
Maybe, I'm reading too much into it though. :)>charging the least amount for their online service
>keeps microtransactions out of their $60 games
>supports crossprogression and wont keep items you purchased on the switch version of fortnite, unlike sony
They need to work on their pricing for 1st party games tho.10th enemy has the bomb.Bob-omb-omb posted...>charging the least amount for their online service
>keeps microtransactions out of their $60 games
>supports crossprogression and wont keep items you purchased on the switch version of fortnite, unlike sony
They need to work on their pricing for 1st party games tho.
They are just trying to keep the industry alive by keeping "value" to their games. Otherwise, no one will pay more than $10 for a game and the developers will have to make lesser games to accomodate.imkindafunny posted...Hint: the next one is "Two"
Dude, spoilers.
I was trying to learn my numbers and you just come in here and tell me.Not changing this part until Saki Amamiya (or Isa Jo) gets into Smash as a playable character! Started: January 20, 2018.
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>charging the least amount for their online service
>keeps microtransactions out of their $60 games
>supports crossprogression and wont keep items you purchased on the switch version of fortnite, unlike sony
They need to work on their pricing for 1st party games tho.
They are just trying to keep the industry alive by keeping "value" to their games. Otherwise, no one will pay more than $10 for a game and the developers will have to make lesser games to accomodate.
I agree.
It's funny how many people want to argue that Nintendo should bastardize their brand.Em_Jay_Dee posted...riboflav posted...
Bob-omb-omb posted...
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They are just trying to keep the industry alive by keeping "value" to their games. Otherwise, no one will pay more than $10 for a game and the developers will have to make lesser games to accomodate.
I agree.
It's funny how many people want to argue that Nintendo should bastardize their brand.
Thank you, I've tried explaining this so many times and no one seems to understand what I'm saying.
-I can buy God of War right now for under $18
-Now, people have it in their head that this is how much a GOW game should cost new (or shortly thereafter)
-When the next GOW game comes out, how many people are going to want to pay $60 for it???
This pattern leads to "decreased supposed value" of games. If game developers can only sell their games for $18, they can't afford to make expensive games anymore.
This kills the whole game industry and pushes it more to the "cheap mobile games" side. That saddens me. AA games are almost already gone (replaced by indies), and new AAA games are much fewer than in previous years.
One has to look at the bigger picture. But, who the hell does that anymore?imkindafunny posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...
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There has been quite a bit of scandal revolving around Fallout 76
One of which was the collectors edition bag
One bad game doesn't put them anywhere near the level of Nintendo.
One bad game? You think their fault is one bad game?
Try screwing consumers on multiple levels with this whole bag fiasco. First, they react "we're not gonna do anything about this" to the outrage. Then they offer 5$ worth of in-game cash which not only isn't enough for anything of notice, it also makes you withdraw your right to complain anymore, as you've accepted your compensation. And when they finally broke and announced they would send actual canvas bags to everyone concerned, they leaked personal data (name, address, credit card number) of every single person that submitted a ticket at the moment.
Let's be honest, this shit puts them miles below Nintendo.You have absolutely no right to complain about a decision you decided to support with your money. Be smart and vote with your wallets!Nintendo isn't all that greedy (except with Fire Emblem DLC), but they sure deserve an award for most bizarre decision-making when it comes to features and online play.
Does literally anyone use the Switch Online app?
Why can't you set options freely when playing Mario Tennis Aces online?
How is it that Nintendo looked at Smash 4, where For Glory was the only thing people played online, and switched to the new godawful system where even Elite Smash will throw you into an FFA against your will and make you sit and watch the rest after you're eliminated or be banned?"That is why war is so tragic. To win means to make victims of your opponents and give birth to hatred." - Kratos Aurion, Tales of SymphoniaMeh, I’ve been around since the dawn of console gaming (yes I’m old!) and whether it was child like innocence, naivety etc the now greedy corporations all started with an honest and pure vision. Shit, even EA in their starting years were pretty fucking great (I’m talking about the yellow tab genesis cartridge EA that gave us road rash etc) activision made some pretty awesome 2600 games and Nintendo blew my little mind with the release of the SNES.
Call me jaded but once the industry exploded and became bigger than Hollywood ALL company’s started chasing the pound/dollar signs and why blame them?
It’s our fault though we humoured the microtransaction model and made it so successful I can’t see it go away, yes, it’s a cancer in the industry but we feed it (I’m not attacking anyone on here just referring to the “royal” WE as in gamers, unless you are that person who bought the horse armor DLC back in Oblivion, then YES I am blaming you 😂)
The poster who mentions EA is completely correct though they are the devil in gaming and have destroyed MANY a great studio (BioWare, Bullfrog, Lionhead) Nintendo as a whole will have to try to be scummy a hell of a lot more to match the levels of Trip Hawkins modern company.3DS FC - 0018-0160-7304 - Taff
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The poster who mentions EA is completely correct though they are the devil in gaming and have destroyed MANY a great studio (BioWare, Bullfrog, Lionhead) Nintendo as a whole will have to try to be scummy a hell of a lot more to match the levels of Trip Hawkins modern company.
lionhead was a microsoft studio for longer than it was EA. EA did nothing there.
EA didn't force bioware to forget how to make good games.
but dont let me get in the way of yet another online EA AM BAD!!!! circlejerk.butthole666 posted...Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable
@butthole666 Can you give some examples as to why you think this?Yay gamingDoMyEyesLie posted...butthole666 posted...
Just the greedest, most anti consumer shit imaginable
@butthole666 Can you give some examples as to why you think this?
They won’t make games for his favorite piece of plastic lolNOW PLAYING: Silent Hill 2Artificial product shortages the benefit nobody
General pricing
Their DRACONIAN content policies (which were conveniently lifted just ahead of Smash) and the myriad controversies surrounding them
amiibos, essentially microtransactions with plastic
Taking down ROM sites full of games not legally available then using the exact ROM rips (albeit a small fraction of them) from said sites in their “classic” consoles
And a general hesitant stance towards modernizing"Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100sbutthole666 posted...amiibos, essentially microtransactions with plastic
lol no. Except for rare scenarios, amiibo can be used in multiple games, and are a one time purchase as opposed to dozens of small ones. They also look pretty cool.3.5 lbs of Sour Patch Kids makes one Sour Patch Child.
Bisexual and proudbutthole666 posted...Artificial product shortages the benefit nobody
how do you know it's artificial
butthole666 posted...General pricing
what does this even mean
butthole666 posted...amiibos, essentially microtransactions with plastic
not micro transactions. they are dolls people collect that you can use to get small and meaningless things in games.
butthole666 posted...Taking down ROM sites full of games not legally available then using the exact ROM rips (albeit a small fraction of them) from said sites in their “classic” consoles
they didn't take down rom sites. they forced their own first party games off sites and sued and site runners realized it wasn't worth the hassle. and so fucking what? they only demanded their own first party games be taken off, which is completely within their right to do.butthole666 posted...Artificial product shortages the benefit nobody
General pricing
Their DRACONIAN content policies (which were conveniently lifted just ahead of Smash) and the myriad controversies surrounding them
amiibos, essentially microtransactions with plastic
Taking down ROM sites full of games not legally available then using the exact ROM rips (albeit a small fraction of them) from said sites in their “classic” consoles
And a general hesitant stance towards modernizing
None of these are real though, just fabrications.
Only one close to real is amiibo and they give you something physical unlike every other type of DLC.
So I guess amiibo are the best DLC ever.@characterz3ro posted...shadowbug posted...
Debatable. Nintendo hasn’t been that creative for over a decade now.
The ports and sequels are proof
And? People want more. It is what they do with these sequel. What games give you creativity like breath of the wild? Tell me which giant ogre cyclops I can throw a metal box at their crotch?
Tell me where to find a game where I can use bomb arrows to extend my glide?PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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The ports and sequels are proof
And? People want more. It is what they do with these sequel. What games give you creativity like breath of the wild? Tell me which giant ogre cyclops I can throw a metal box at their crotch?
Tell me where to find a game where I can use bomb arrows to extend my glide?
1. most games have rocket launchers (bomb arrows) not original
2. Just Cause three has better hookshot/ glider map traversal than BOTW.
next....but it's only the beta!!!characterz3ro posted...omniryu posted...
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And? People want more. It is what they do with these sequel. What games give you creativity like breath of the wild? Tell me which giant ogre cyclops I can throw a metal box at their crotch?
Tell me where to find a game where I can use bomb arrows to extend my glide?
1. most games have rocket launchers (bomb arrows) not original
2. Just Cause three has better hookshot/ glider map traversal than BOTW.
next.
That wasn’t the question. Other games have them (including, *gasp*, another Zelda game), but what other games allow you to use them in conjunction with the extensive physics system to remain airborne?3.5 lbs of Sour Patch Kids makes one Sour Patch Child.
Bisexual and proudcharacterz3ro posted...omniryu posted...
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And? People want more. It is what they do with these sequel. What games give you creativity like breath of the wild? Tell me which giant ogre cyclops I can throw a metal box at their crotch?
Tell me where to find a game where I can use bomb arrows to extend my glide?
1. most games have rocket launchers (bomb arrows) not original
2. Just Cause three has better hookshot/ glider map traversal than BOTW.
next.
So you can create an updraft with a rocket launcher and fly up with it in just cause 3?PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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1. most games have rocket launchers (bomb arrows) not original
2. Just Cause three has better hookshot/ glider map traversal than BOTW.
next.
That wasn’t the question. Other games have them (including, *gasp*, another Zelda game), but what other games allow you to use them in conjunction with the extensive physics system to remain airborne?
This*PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
Switch FC: 5419 6809 04860ofreako0 posted...characterz3ro posted...
2. Just Cause three has better hookshot/ glider map traversal than BOTW.
you might as well say call of duty has better shooting, too, because that's about the same kind of comparison.
Nintoddlers don't know anything about a series that doesn't come to their consoles. Color me surprised.- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.NintendoGamer83 posted...AltOmega posted...
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Gotta resort to insults.
Pathetic
If you find that term insulting you have bigger issues than being a fanboy.- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.AltOmega posted...NintendoGamer83 posted...
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Gotta resort to insults.
Pathetic
If you find that term insulting you have bigger issues than being a fanboy.
You clearly used it in an insulting and condescending way.3.5 lbs of Sour Patch Kids makes one Sour Patch Child.
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Gotta resort to insults.
Pathetic
If you find that term insulting you have bigger issues than being a fanboy.
Its an insult whether it upsets someone or notList of words considered flaming when used against Sony fans: Drone,Pony,Troll,Fanboy,Toxic.
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you might as well say call of duty has better shooting, too, because that's about the same kind of comparison.
Nintoddlers don't know anything about a series that doesn't come to their consoles. Color me surprised.
So nothing of value to rebuttal with? Not surprised.PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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I wasn't part of the argument, I just made a comment.
So... Trolling?
I'm only as guilty as the party I was replying to.- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.AltOmega posted...omniryu posted...
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So... Trolling?
I'm only as guilty as the party I was replying to.
So where guilty because? I don't get it?PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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omniryu posted...So you can create an updraft with a rocket launcher and fly up with it in just cause 3?
Not a Rocket Launcher, but Duke Nukem 2 had a flamethrower you could use as a jetpack.Putting basic functionality of a system like online multiplayer and the ability to back up data behind a premium membership shows little faith in it.Jinzo 111887 posted...omniryu posted...
So you can create an updraft with a rocket launcher and fly up with it in just cause 3?
Not a Rocket Launcher, but Duke Nukem 2 had a flamethrower you could use as a jetpack.
Which isn't comparableList of words considered flaming when used against Sony fans: Drone,Pony,Troll,Fanboy,Toxic.
List of words considered flaming when used against Nintendo fans:omniryu posted...So where guilty because? I don't get it?
I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly but the post I replied to made a facetious and uninformed comparison to Call of Duty.- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.@Jinzo_111887 posted...omniryu posted...
So you can create an updraft with a rocket launcher and fly up with it in just cause 3?
Not a Rocket Launcher, but Duke Nukem 2 had a flamethrower you could use as a jetpack.
That's great but it is not the same.
Can you fly with a boulder that you build momentum with?
Or make a seesw and catapult yourself in the air with the tools you made?PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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Not a Rocket Launcher, but Duke Nukem 2 had a flamethrower you could use as a jetpack.
That's great . Not the same. Can you fly with a rocket that you build momentum with?
Or make a seesw and catapult yourself in the air with the tools you made?
I try explaining the physics in BOTW all the time and some people just never get it.
It's the most revolutionary part of the game really.riboflav posted...omniryu posted...
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That's great . Not the same. Can you fly with a rocket that you build momentum with?
Or make a seesw and catapult yourself in the air with the tools you made?
I try explaining the physics in BOTW all the time and some people just never get it.
It's the most revolutionary part of the game really.
Exactly, there trying to compare stuff but fail to see the underlying method.PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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So where guilty because? I don't get it?
I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly but the post I replied to made a facetious and uninformed comparison to Call of Duty.
That post? He wasn't attacking call of duty. He was saying that the person argument was flawed because it had superficial comparison and don't see what makes it unique.PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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Artificial product shortages the benefit nobody
I see this brought up a lot and I get why but at the same time, I can also see the other side of this. In example, they way over estimated their sales for Wii U and overstocked it which hurt them financially and for 3DS while the sales weren't as bad, the sales stagnated early on and ended up being only about half of what DS did. After seeing these things, then taking into consideration how toys to life was going for other companies and how little "classic" systems from other companies were selling, they weren't expecting the demand for their own classic systems and amiibos to be so high. Even with the Switch, considering how the Wii U and 3DS did prior, their expectations were much lower. Furthermore, looking at the tech world at the time they launched, they also had to deal with companies like Apple and Samsung causing shortages across tech world when they launched Switch and the strike in the docks in California when they launched amiibos.
General pricing
Some of the games are more expensive due to carts, but that's where my complaints end. Similar performing portable hardware is more expensive. IE, the GPD Win 2 is $699, Switch is $299. The XB1 controller is $60 + the play and charge battery is $25. The Switch Pro Controller is $70. The dock is pricey but it comes with the system. Micro SD cards are more expensive then HDD's but nothing is as bad as Vita memory cards. Online is $20, while PS+ is $60.
Their DRACONIAN content policies (which were conveniently lifted just ahead of Smash) and the myriad controversies surrounding them
I'm going to need some examples of this.
amiibos, essentially microtransactions with plastic
While I'm not really an Amiibo fan, I have 20 or so. I get why some people like them for collectability but I don't have much room for that. On the flip side, every Amiibo I purchased works in multiple games. This puts it ahead of typical micro transactions or other Toys to Life figurines imo.
Taking down ROM sites full of games not legally available then using the exact ROM rips (albeit a small fraction of them) from said sites in their “classic” consoles
I see both sides of this but I agree with you on Nintendo's actions here. On one end, getting ROM's online is like downloading music, shows, and movies. In other industries, this has been considered clear cut stealing and companies have gone after sites and individuals over this.
On the other end, I don't like how the console companies are asking users to repurchase games or subscribe to access the games they purchased on previous hardware. When talking other tech companies such as Apple or Google, they don't try to force their users into repurchasing their music and videos they bought prior. When talking PC gaming, games that I purchased 20 years ago on hardware that was quite different still work on my PC I built a few weeks ago (some with a bit of emulation and trickery mind you). But when it comes to companies like Nintendo and Sony, even though the majority of their games are up and running on a variety of hardware, they don't want to support your purchases from their own services on their modern hardware as they want to resell those games and get service subscriptions. At least Microsoft is making an effort..
Putting all of that into perspective, Nintendo's decision to go after ROM sites is just adding fuel to the flames. Sure, they have the right to do it, but it was a dick move.
And a general hesitant stance towards modernizing
I agree with this. They're stuck in the past with their policies on how they're handling online. That said, I'm very glad that they're embracing 3rd parties with Switch and supporting consumer friendly things like cross platform play, cross platform progression, and local multiplayer.Yay gamingomniryu posted...riboflav posted...
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I try explaining the physics in BOTW all the time and some people just never get it.
It's the most revolutionary part of the game really.
Exactly, there trying to compare stuff but fail to see the underlying method.
I gave up on those guys.They all say the same thing in order to create outrage: "Nothing is in BOTW that hasn't been in other games".
Whenever I see that, a person gets an instant spot on my IGNORE list. Not because it upsets me but because I figure they will never have anything beneficial/accurate to say in the future.
No biggie!riboflav posted...gave up on those guys.They all say the same thing in order to create outrage: "Nothing is in BOTW that hasn't been in other games".
Whenever I see that, a person gets an instant spot on my IGNORE list. Not because it upsets me but because I figure they will never have anything beneficial/accurate to say in the future.
No biggie!
"Nothing is in BOTW that hasn't been in other games".
omniryu posted...That post? He wasn't attacking call of duty. He was saying that the person argument was flawed because it had superficial comparison and don't see what makes it unique.
Are you intentionally misunderstanding for the sake of "trolling" or something equally moronic? A valid comparison to BotW was made.- I dislike Sony and Nintendo equally but own both of their consoles plus a PC.
- I'm a traditional leftist and I literally work for the government.NintendoGamer83 posted...Jinzo 111887 posted...
Actually, it is in the sense that Duke Nukem 2 is an old DOS game, so one could say it's an early concept of that.omniryu posted...
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Not a Rocket Launcher, but Duke Nukem 2 had a flamethrower you could use as a jetpack.
Which isn't comparable
omniryu posted...That's great but it is not the same.
LittleBig Planet games on PS3 have that. Yeah, it's a 2.5D platformer, but that kind of thing exists in it. Someone tried to recreate Sonic's loops with a very fast spinning wheel you can grab onto in the middle. The LBP 2's creatinator could be used for spawning stuff with a frequency that it would allow you to take off if you fire downwards.
Can you fly with a boulder that you build momentum with?
Or make a seesw and catapult yourself in the air with the tools you made?Putting basic functionality of a system like online multiplayer and the ability to back up data behind a premium membership shows little faith in it.AltOmega posted...riboflav posted...
gave up on those guys.They all say the same thing in order to create outrage: "Nothing is in BOTW that hasn't been in other games".
Whenever I see that, a person gets an instant spot on my IGNORE list. Not because it upsets me but because I figure they will never have anything beneficial/accurate to say in the future.
No biggie!
"Nothing is in BOTW that hasn't been in other games".
omniryu posted...That post? He wasn't attacking call of duty. He was saying that the person argument was flawed because it had superficial comparison and don't see what makes it unique.
Are you intentionally misunderstanding for the sake of "trolling" or something equally moronic? A valid comparison to BotW was made.
What was the comparison? Just having a glide? Fort Nite has a gliding mechanic.
And it start with this.
I asked what game can you create an updraft and glide up with it? What game can you use a random object on the ground and hit a orge in its crotch til it dies.
What game can you charge momentum in a boulder to fly accross mountain with it?
What game let you make a bridge out of a tree that's not a triggered Event?
Saying it has a glider is just superficial and you're not looking at the truth. And when he said it he means that you making superficial comparison.PSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
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Which isn't comparable
omniryu posted...That's great but it is not the same.
LittleBig Planet games on PS3 have that. Yeah, it's a 2.5D platformer, but that kind of thing exists in it. Someone tried to recreate Sonic's loops with a very fast spinning wheel you can grab onto in the middle. The LBP 2's creatinator could be used for spawning stuff with a frequency that it would allow you to take off if you fire downwards.
Can you fly with a boulder that you build momentum with?
Or make a seesw and catapult yourself in the air with the tools you made?
I doubt duke let you set something on fire and catch an updraft. As for the second part.
I don't know what you mean by thatPSN/XBL: OMNIRYU
Switch FC: 5419 6809 0486I'd say their decisions are more baffling than anything. And yeah, they do have some really stupid anti-consumer tactics and an odd paranoia about piracy.
But I would put them far down the list of the most anti-consumer, when you consider EA, Activision, 2K, Ubisoft, Bethesda, so on and so forth have them quite beat.Synbios459 currently in the lead for #1 worst topicMaverick_Reznor posted...Thrasher7170 posted...
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How is Bethesda bad again? I know everything they release is a bug infested mess, but they at least leave the door open for modders to fix it.
There has been quite a bit of scandal revolving around Fallout 76
One of which was the collectors edition bag
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I don't think fo76 is nearly as bad as people act like. I think it's a good, but flawed game. Those flaws just stop it from being great though. They don't stop it from being good.
However...
They gave cheap nylon bags instead of actual canvas bags like what was promised. The CS reps response was "they were too expensive to make, so we went with these. We aren't paying on doing anything about it. "
After that, a community organizer came out to try and fix the situation. The response was pretty much "what they said is true, but not how they are suppose to say it. Here's 5$ of in game currency for the people that bought our $200 collectors edition". Then after more uproar, they are finally fixing it. Then they also listed all the things they knew the community would like in their patch notes, and had a lot of hidden nerfs in it that they didn't mention because they knew the community would be mad.
This was seriously scummy (the bag thing)... I will say that this is the only real thing I can give a complaint about though.Play Gamefaqs Bingo with me. Any time you get 5 in a row in a single topic shout BINGO! in it.
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