Vita got a HD port and a spinoff or two...and 3DS got a couple spinoffs and a sortaish related game. Why no original game or 3DS ports/remakes? Yeah XV sold a shitload of copies in the west but it was extremely expensive to develop and hasn't even passed a million copies at retail. Wouldn't doing some ports/remakes and even some original or companion games been worth the effort? Bravely Default did 1 million copies and Bracely second did 700K. A old school FF probably cpuld've done more than that because their clearly is a market on 3DS for that sort of game. I don't get square enix'd approach of everything having to be this expensive massive borderline valve time project or some tiny shity smartphone project. Isn't doing some stuff in the middle ground with Final Fantasy a good idea? 3DS is literally the third best selling system ever in Japan. Surprised they didn't do more with FF on 3DS.
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seems like they rather dump games onto mobile...they charging 15 - 20 for some those mobile versions. that one FF game on mobile w/ all the past characters would've been a fun 3DS game
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dimensions also isnt bad but its kinda crippled with the pricing (Even if you buy all chapters its almost as much as a 3ds game) and most of the remake on ios is 15 dollars...getting them on steam just so you can have a real controller + that summer steam sale was much more worth it to getting some ff games though couple of the microtransaction ones still are ios only...like record keeeper and ugh all the bravest...
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They rather get nearly all the pie then have to split the pie. Understandable business.
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Not really? FF has always been all about whoring graphics. FF1's whole deal was "Like Dragon Quest, but with animations!" It's how it became the only jRPG franchise to be relevant in the west to begin with. Of course it's always been a console franchise and used handhelds for spin-offs and easy ports. (Although it seems they got sick of spamming FF4 on every system. GBA and DS got FF4 back to back! But no show on 3DS? For shame Square!)
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pikachupwnage posted...
Wouldn't doing some ports/remakes and even some original or companion games been worth the effort? Bravely Default did 1 million copies and Bracely second did 700K. A old school FF probably cpuld've done more than that because their clearly is a market on 3DS for that sort of game.
FF1-6 are already playable on Nintendo handhelds, FF1 got remade for the 3DS and FF1-3 are on the eShop. As for original games, there's Explorers and Theatrhythm, and the obvious Bravely Default (which is basically a Not-FF game.) So I'm not really seeing where the topic idea came from. Of course there's an unspoken rule at Square that no FF games after VII are remade. But you can figure out why that is. Of course my real question is where the hell is the new Tactics game; don't know why that series had to stop on the DS.
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lukeskywalker66 posted...
Of course my real question is where the hell is the new Tactics game; don't know why that series had to stop on the DS.
Poor sales I guess, or maybe no one wanted to helm another one of these uninspired sequels. Don't get me wrong tho, FFTA had some soul and interesting design, it's FFTA-2 that was a complete disaster on every level.
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It is shocking that Square Enix never tried the Dragon Quest XI approach with a home version and handheld version of the Final Fantasy games.
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It's more crazy how Final Fantasy abandoned making good games.
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On the flip side, the only good Final Fantasy games in the last 10 years were on handheld (Dissidia)
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You can play a shocking amount of FF games on vita.
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They remade XII before XI. Repeat that sentence until it makes sense or drives you insane. I'm headed towards the latter.
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wasn't XI the MMO one?
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lukeskywalker66 posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Wouldn't doing some ports/remakes and even some original or companion games been worth the effort? Bravely Default did 1 million copies and Bracely second did 700K. A old school FF probably cpuld've done more than that because their clearly is a market on 3DS for that sort of game.
FF1-6 are already playable on Nintendo handhelds, FF1 got remade for the 3DS and FF1-3 are on the eShop. As for original games, there's Explorers and Theatrhythm, and the obvious Bravely Default (which is basically a Not-FF game.) So I'm not really seeing where the topic idea came from. Of course there's an unspoken rule at Square that no FF games after VII are remade. But you can figure out why that is.
Of course my real question is where the hell is the new Tactics game; don't know why that series had to stop on the DS.
FF1 remake on 3DS? When?
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omegafix posted...
FF1 remake on 3DS? When?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/114536-final-fantasy/dataI don't think I'd call it a remake, though.
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Their all on mobile. They are after that money. Nintendo has been bringing most of Square Enix RPGs over. I guess they are just lazy and rather milk it to mobile platforms.
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Not quite. Bravely Default was thought to be called Final Fantasy at Square Enix at first.
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World of Final Fantasy PS4/Vita was decent Besides , have you seen SE lately?
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Mobile makes SE more money. Sad truth. Japan already loves portable gaming, and they carry a machine strong enough to play older FF games so why not?
Personally, all I wanted was FFVI and IV on 3DS VC. Guess I'll play it on my Switch if it ever comes there.
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i'm really surprised they never released/remade FF6 for the 3ds, especially considering how well received the ff3 and 4 remakes were. I'd think that game would sell like crazy, but I guess square enix didn't feel it was worth the effort.
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hatemakingnames posted...
It's more crazy how Final Fantasy abandoned making good games.
Pretty much this.
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How is it crazy? Square has major issues and spreads their devs thin. We got Bravely series on handhelds. We got FF remakes on PS4. To me that is the best way to go considering. Mobile is likely where they see the largest profit margins.
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thompsontalker7 posted...
On the flip side, the only good Final Fantasy games in the last 10 years were on handheld (Dissidia)
Incorrect. Ff14
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lunaticcore posted...
You can play a shocking amount of FF games on vita.
Indeed. I have one memory card dedicated to just FF games.
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MWXIII posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
On the flip side, the only good Final Fantasy games in the last 10 years were on handheld (Dissidia)
Incorrect.
Ff14
And Theatrhythm
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MWXIII posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
On the flip side, the only good Final Fantasy games in the last 10 years were on handheld (Dissidia)
Incorrect.
Ff14
Which will inevitably draw more MMO fans than FF fans. Why should we count a game that is an MMO first and a FF game second (a very distant second) as a FF game? I could say a similar thing with Theatrhythm. At least spin off titles like FFT and Crystal Chronicles had their own feel while still being FF (having RPG mechanics and having FF staples like moogles and certain enemies).
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I was playing Final Fantasy V the other day, on the GBA and had a blast. The music was very enjoyable and had loveable characters. DQ11 on the 3ds has a 2D mode that also looks very good.
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Richardwilliams posted...
I was playing Final Fantasy V the other day, on the GBA and had a blast. The music was very enjoyable and had loveable characters.
DQ11 on the 3ds has a 2D mode that also looks very good.
I was just thinking about buying FFV Advance...
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Zero_Maniac posted...
Richardwilliams posted...
I was playing Final Fantasy V the other day, on the GBA and had a blast. The music was very enjoyable and had loveable characters.
DQ11 on the 3ds has a 2D mode that also looks very good.
I was just thinking about buying FFV Advance...
Do it, I found my copy at a thrift store for under three dollars.
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Bravely Second and FF Explorers had poor sales and Vita is a flop. Cheaper to make phone games and more profitable.
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Gogo726 posted...
MWXIII posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
On the flip side, the only good Final Fantasy games in the last 10 years were on handheld (Dissidia)
Incorrect.
Ff14
And Theatrhythm
And Bravely Default.
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Richardwilliams posted...
Zero_Maniac posted...
Richardwilliams posted...
I was playing Final Fantasy V the other day, on the GBA and had a blast. The music was very enjoyable and had loveable characters.
DQ11 on the 3ds has a 2D mode that also looks very good.
I was just thinking about buying FFV Advance...
Do it, I found my copy at a thrift store for under three dollars.
There's like 2 Goodwills within driving distance where I live. Never seen a single GBA game at either of them, and I've been hunting for almost a year at this point. I've seen plenty of Xbox (360), PS2, PS3, Wii games, a few GameCube games, but never any games for any handheld whatsoever.
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IrateGameFAQer posted...
wasn't XI the MMO one?
FFXI and FFXIV are both MMORPGs. FFXI started as an EverQuest clone, while FFXIV ARR is a WoW clone. FFXI is still going, so they don't need to remake it, though they have announced a remake back in 2015 for FFXI on mobile platforms. So far it hasn't released, and it was slated for 2016 release. The story is really good. https://www.youtube.com/user/FFXITheMovieiMURDAu posted...
They remade XII before XI.
Repeat that sentence until it makes sense or drives you insane. I'm headed towards the latter.
FFXI had new story content being made for it through 2015. It isn't in need of a remake yet, because it is still fairly recent, and the game is still operating with monthly updates.
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they have higher standards. you really think 3DS can handle FFXIII or FFXIV for that matter?
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Also, about FFXII being remade, it was more of a resolution upgrade for the existing International version that Japan got about 10 years ago on PS2. Just like they did for FFX, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, and Kingdom Hearts 2. FFXI being patchable means they didn't ever do an upgraded rerelease, since they could just upgrade the game over time.
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lukeskywalker66 posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Wouldn't doing some ports/remakes and even some original or companion games been worth the effort? Bravely Default did 1 million copies and Bracely second did 700K. A old school FF probably cpuld've done more than that because their clearly is a market on 3DS for that sort of game.
FF1-6 are already playable on Nintendo handhelds, FF1 got remade for the 3DS and FF1-3 are on the eShop. As for original games, there's Explorers and Theatrhythm, and the obvious Bravely Default (which is basically a Not-FF game.) So I'm not really seeing where the topic idea came from. Of course there's an unspoken rule at Square that no FF games after VII are remade. But you can figure out why that is.
Of course my real question is where the hell is the new Tactics game; don't know why that series had to stop on the DS.
That's all fucking wonderful but what if I don't know Japanese and don't want to spend a couple hundred to import a third regions 3DS?
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Nova_Castings posted...
omegafix posted...
FF1 remake on 3DS? When?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/114536-final-fantasy/data
I don't think I'd call it a remake, though.
Pretty sure that's a port of the PSP remake.
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I really do wish they'd put FF1 and 2 PSP on the PSN so I can digitize more of my PSP library onto my Vita.
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hatemakingnames posted...
It's more crazy how Final Fantasy abandoned making good games.
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Duke Darkwood posted...
I really do wish they'd put FF1 and 2 PSP on the PSN so I can digitize more of my PSP library onto my Vita.
I don't even know why they aren't on PSN. Usually it's a legal issue because a song or character in the game is owned by someone other than the developers, but I'm pretty sure everything in both of those games belongs to SE.
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Don't get me started on the rights issue. Don't even. Just pay the guy a licensing fee or something and give me my dang Crisis Core already. (Seriously, the only PSP games I have that aren't on PSN are FF1, FF2, CCFF7, Star Ocean 1, SO2, and Tales of the World. 5/6 of them are Square-Enix's.)
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Duke Darkwood posted...
I really do wish they'd put FF1 and 2 PSP on the PSN so I can digitize more of my PSP library onto my Vita.
Not the same but the PSOne Final Fantasy Origins collection is on PSN.
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sotojuan posted...
Duke Darkwood posted...
I really do wish they'd put FF1 and 2 PSP on the PSN so I can digitize more of my PSP library onto my Vita.
Not the same but the PSOne Final Fantasy Origins collection is on PSN.
Yeah, but the 20th Anniversary Editions are prettier. Also, I think they have other extras whether it be content or fixes.
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They want to rip "gamers" off on mobile. They know where the sheep are who will pay them hundreds if not thousands on their crummy F2P mobile offerings.
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Hop103 posted...
They want to rip "gamers" off on mobile. They know where the sheep are who will pay them hundreds if not thousands on their crummy F2P mobile offerings.
Except the vast majority of SE's mobile games have a flat price on them, and are multiplatform.
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yeah i dont get square dense policies some times FF ports on 3ds? nope. they ported FF1 in japan and never got past that beyond that there are 1-3 on VC in japan but the west got shafted. beyond that we got like BD and weird spinoffs. Vita IMO got the better end of the stick on spin offs but yeah during GBA/DS/PSP squares portable games were god tier now a days tho they put a fraction of the effort and mostly just stick to mobile. Bravely default even sold well enough and they just didnt bother to catch the signs past BD2. people wanted a FF games out of that but RIP the last game i even super enjoyed from them tho was TWEWY and that was forever and a half ago.
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helldew posted...
yeah i dont get square dense policies some times
FF ports on 3ds? nope. they ported FF1 in japan and never got past that beyond that there are 1-3 on VC in japan but the west got shafted.
beyond that we got like BD and weird spinoffs.
Vita IMO got the better end of the stick on spin offs
but yeah during GBA/DS/PSP squares portable games were god tier now a days tho they put a fraction of the effort and mostly just stick to mobile.
Bravely default even sold well enough and they just didnt bother to catch the signs past BD2. people wanted a FF games out of that but RIP
the last game i even super enjoyed from them tho was TWEWY and that was forever and a half ago.
I remember square wanting to remake final fantasy 5 and 6 in 3d for the 3ds, then the mobile boom happned and well you the rest.
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
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helldew posted...
yeah i dont get square dense policies some times
They are following the money, and mobile is doing better than most handhelds for market penetration and sales. They are just following the logic of business.
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Mainstream FF games are all about the graphics. 3ds hardware just can't handle it. Mobile cells now have way more power than 3ds .
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Nobody is gonna say anything about tc's dumbass claim that ffxv hasn't passed 1 million retail copies?
Just checking
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