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Tuesday, July 25, 2017

How does Square Enix make enough money to stay in business?

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REMercsChamp 1 hour ago#1
I'm finding it hard to believe that Square Enix's core business model still revolves around video games.

With them taking 5-10 years for each game release these days, how can they possibly be turning a profit from this? They're a big company with a lot of operating costs.

Have they branched out into mobile games and pinball machines like Konami? How do they do it?
Newbius 1 hour ago#2
FF14 is where they're gaining the most income.
Greggbird33 1 hour ago#3
They work on more than one thing at once.They don't just work on one game for 4 years and nothing else. That would be stupid. This question is stupid.
This guy are sick.
Jedi454 1 hour ago#4
By making games and other things to sell would be the answer.
REMercsChamp 1 hour ago#5
Jedi454 posted...
By making games and other things to sell would be the answer.

Right - I get that, but their new content output is so thin and takes so many years and resources to develop, I find it hard to believe that a giant company can sustain itself off such a barren amount of content. 

Maybe FF14 is the answer.
They make a lot of games and they are also a publisher and have a rather large output per year. They also publish a decent amount of manga and anime, etc.
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Irenicus 1 hour ago#7
They publish games as well as develop them. Relatively speaking they actually release quite a lot of games
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REMercsChamp posted...
Right - I get that, but their new content output is so thin and takes so many years and resources to develop, I find it hard to believe that a giant company can sustain itself off such a barren amount of content. 

Maybe FF14 is the answer.

If you actually look at their release schedule, they put out TONS of stuff. Just not AAA stuff.
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xxnike0629xx 1 hour ago#9
You do realize that Square-Enix doesn't only develop/publish video games right?
They have their films, anime, figurines, music, concerts, cups, clothing, food items, etc
FF14 makes them around 8 million a month, assuming 400k active players...thats not too shabby.

On top of that, remember they release tons of games, its just their core jrpgs that take forever, but they also make tomb raider, hitman (until recently) dues ex, many many ds rpgs, all those side FF games like world of and explorers, at least 4 FF mobile games, all the go mobile games and on and on.

KH3, FF15, and FF7 are taking forever, but they do release or publish tons of smaller games every year. Looking at wikipedia they released 15 games last year for instance, thats more than one per month.
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xxnike0629xx posted...
You do realize that Square-Enix doesn't only develop/publish video games right?
They have their films, anime, figurines, music, concerts, cups, clothing, food items, etc

They also own an insurance company.
PsychoWolfX 1 hour ago#12
They still have a pretty huge, dedicated fanbase who gobble up games and merch by the truck load. Plenty of people don't mind wasting $$$ on subscription games.

I don't bother keeping track of companies financial status, but I don't think Squeenix was ever really hurting for money.
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flkid 1 hour ago#13
Newbius posted...
FF14 is where they're gaining the most income.


This. They need to kiss Yoshi P's ass big time for saving them.
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REMercsChamp 1 hour ago#14
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going
- Insurance companies
- Toys, shirts, candy, etc
- Publishing video games other people made and taking the credit
Newbius 1 hour ago#15
flkid posted...
Newbius posted...
FF14 is where they're gaining the most income.


This. They need to kiss Yoshi P's ass big time for saving them.

I think they're not kissing his ass good enough. He's the sole reason why the entire company didn't go belly up.
Newbius 1 hour ago#16
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

FF14 ripoff scam they've got going
- Insurance companies
- Toys, shirts, candy, etc
- Publishing video games other people made and taking the credit

Ok hold it right there. FF14 is anything but a scam or a ripoff. If anything its one of the best subscription MMOs out there right now.
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going
- Insurance companies
- Toys, shirts, candy, etc
- Publishing video games other people made and taking the credit

Ripff scam? How so?
And taking credit for other people's games? Huh?
Irenicus 1 hour ago#18
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going
- Insurance companies
- Toys, shirts, candy, etc
- Publishing video games other people made and taking the credit


I think you have gone off the deep end somewhat here. They aren't pretending they develop all the games they publish, and you cant realistically call FFXIV a scam.
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regs8376 1 hour ago#19
Ffxiv is amazing
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tr1bes 58 minutes ago#20
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going
- Insurance companies
- Toys, shirts, candy, etc
- Publishing video games other people made and taking the credit


How are they taking credit if they own the ips? They pay those workers to produce the games. Name an example.
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Sheepinator 57 minutes ago#21
This should explain for you TC.

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/17q4earnings.pdf
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tobydammit 56 minutes ago#22
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going


And there's TC's whole reason for creating this thread. I swear most people on this board just complain and tear apart things they don't like. For a group of hobbyists whose focus is playing games, you sure are a miserable bunch.
I don't care. Who cares?
Sheepinator 55 minutes ago#23
tobydammit posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
So we're digging deeper here:

- FF14 ripoff scam they've got going

And there's TC's whole reason for creating this thread. I swear most people on this board just complain and tear apart things they don't like. For a group of hobbyists whose focus is playing games, you sure are a miserable bunch.

Yep, the TC starts out all innocent and then by #14 had fully exposed his agenda. That didn't take long.
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The_Undying_84 41 minutes ago#24
They're well diversified. Which is unfortunate as it allows them to keep making fucking awful games.
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ArsenicSteel 38 minutes ago#25
How about reading one of their finicial reports. There's not a whole lot of blogging or handholding in them. Hopefully the facts don't bother you too badly.
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highpost1388 33 minutes ago#26
ArsenicSteel posted...
How about reading one of their finicial reports. There's not a whole lot of blogging or handholding in them. Hopefully the facts don't bother you too badly.

This could prove to be a challenge.
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Serenity_Lotus 16 minutes ago#27
The_Undying_84 posted...
They're well diversified. Which is unfortunate as it allows them to keep making fucking awful games.

Then move the fuck on, lol.
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The_Undying_84 8 minutes ago#28
Serenity_Lotus posted...
The_Undying_84 posted...
They're well diversified. Which is unfortunate as it allows them to keep making fucking awful games.

Then move the fuck on, lol.


Or people like you could grow some standards and stop propping up a sinking ship.
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freedumbdclxvi 1 minute ago#29
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