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Monday, July 31, 2017

XBOX X = 1800p

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Vegaskid71 1 day ago#1
Have to keep parity with the PS4 Pro, or the Sony fanatics will riot.

http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-on-playstation-4-pro-runs-at-1800p-with-checkerboard-rendering-ultra-textures/
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uptown710 1 day ago#3
Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.
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Vegaskid71 1 day ago#4
keep using the word parity to make your self feel better. lmaoooooooooo the beast
uptown710 1 day ago#5
RonBurgundy929 posted...
Have to keep parity with the PS4 Pro, or the Sony fanatics will riot.

http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-on-playstation-4-pro-runs-at-1800p-with-checkerboard-rendering-ultra-textures/


Well it's not really parity. The 1X gets non checkerboarded 1800p. Odd how they don't say what their target framerate is.
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Vegaskid71 1 day ago#6
uptown710 posted...
RonBurgundy929 posted...
Have to keep parity with the PS4 Pro, or the Sony fanatics will riot.

http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-on-playstation-4-pro-runs-at-1800p-with-checkerboard-rendering-ultra-textures/


Well it's not really parity. The 1X gets non checkerboarded 1800p. Odd how they don't say what their target framerate is.

Whatever the hell it is, zombie alt. troll accounts like TC think this is some huge negative for Xbox when they probably praised KF2 running at "4K" in the past on their main account.
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HornedLion 1 day ago#8
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djwagon 1 day ago#9
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Bumbleoni 1 day ago#11
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uptown710 1 day ago#13
No need for the spoiler line low. Both these machines are bandaids.
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Laylow12 posted...
Welcome to "True [Checkerboard & Dynamic Resolution] 4k" found on the XBOX ONE X and The PRO. 

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This is neither checkerboard nor dynamic you complete cretin.
So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.
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uptown710 1 day ago#16
RetroGamerX posted...
So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.


Wouldn't it be better to keep both..?
"XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
uptown710 posted...
RetroGamerX posted...
So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.


Wouldn't it be better to keep both..?


Not for me. Cancelled my plus a long time ago. PS4 just sits gathering dust now. Will get a decent enough return on it to go towards X1X.
Selling my PS4 for the almighty 'X'
uptown710 1 day ago#18
RetroGamerX posted...
uptown710 posted...
RetroGamerX posted...
So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.


Wouldn't it be better to keep both..?


Not for me. Cancelled my plus a long time ago. PS4 just sits gathering dust now. Will get a decent enough return on it to go towards X1X.


Likewise. Don't really touch my PS since I got my PC back up and running. But I don't think you should throw out options imo.
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slyman19 1 day ago#20
Someone is salty that their console of choice can only do checkerboard KF2.
As I've said before, the true power of the console will mainly be shown with their console exclusives. Give me a link that says something like this. Until I see otherwise, xbox one x will be the beast we've been waiting for.
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SubSeenix 1 day ago#22
Phil SPINcer lied again....Surprise


Hint : Hyping stuff up while Cheaping out on the CPU does only work so long until people find out you lied

MrImpatient35 posted...
As I've said before, the true power of the console will mainly be shown with their console exclusives. Give me a link that says something like this. Until I see otherwise, xbox one x will be the beast we've been waiting for.


The problem is Xbox barely has any exclusives and then you have the PC Versions which will look and run a lot better cause of better CPUs
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slyman19 1 day ago#23
SubSeenix posted...
Phil SPINcer lied again....Surprise


Hint : Hyping stuff up while Cheaping out on the CPU does only work so long until people find out you lied

MrImpatient35 posted...
As I've said before, the true power of the console will mainly be shown with their console exclusives. Give me a link that says something like this. Until I see otherwise, xbox one x will be the beast we've been waiting for.


The problem is Xbox barely has any exclusives and then you have the PC Versions which will look and run a lot better cause of better CPUs

But most people don't care about PC and will buy an Xbox to play those games.
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uptown710 1 day ago#25
slyman19 posted...
SubSeenix posted...
Phil SPINcer lied again....Surprise


Hint : Hyping stuff up while Cheaping out on the CPU does only work so long until people find out you lied

MrImpatient35 posted...
As I've said before, the true power of the console will mainly be shown with their console exclusives. Give me a link that says something like this. Until I see otherwise, xbox one x will be the beast we've been waiting for.


The problem is Xbox barely has any exclusives and then you have the PC Versions which will look and run a lot better cause of better CPUs

But most people don't care about PC and will buy an Xbox to play those games.


I find this to be a paradox. 

The 1X was made for the gamers who really care about metrics like high framerates and high resolution (this is kinda what Spencer implied). Usually that demographic consists of people who have gaming PCs, which with the advent of play anywhere, renders buying a 1X moot... 

That's the one thing I don't get.
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slyman19 1 day ago#26
uptown710 posted...
slyman19 posted...
SubSeenix posted...
Phil SPINcer lied again....Surprise


Hint : Hyping stuff up while Cheaping out on the CPU does only work so long until people find out you lied

MrImpatient35 posted...
As I've said before, the true power of the console will mainly be shown with their console exclusives. Give me a link that says something like this. Until I see otherwise, xbox one x will be the beast we've been waiting for.


The problem is Xbox barely has any exclusives and then you have the PC Versions which will look and run a lot better cause of better CPUs

But most people don't care about PC and will buy an Xbox to play those games.


I find this to be a paradox. 

The 1X was made for the gamers who really care about metrics like high framerates and high resolution (this is kinda what Spencer implied). Usually that demographic consists of people who have gaming PCs, which with the advent of play anywhere, renders buying a 1X moot... 

That's the one thing I don't get.

See, PC has a really bad stigma surrounding it that it's complex and overly difficult. People do want to take advantage of their shiny ew 4K displays, so Xbox One X will be perfect for those people. 

PC will always be second fiddle to console to the masses.
Connora711 1 day ago#27
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)
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slyman19 1 day ago#28
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.
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uptown710 1 day ago#30
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Agreed.
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PoloMan6 1 day ago#31
Good news...XBO-X will get the best version. No surprise really. Looking forward to playing all multi-platform games on the XBO-X.

PS4 fan-b's will not be enjoying this LOL.
The troll logic here is crazy, one aa game isnt 4k therefore no games will be 4k?
RIP PS4 exclusives
uptown710 1 day ago#33
In this topic :

PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

Love all around.
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To bad.
n00bsaib0t 1 day ago#35
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.

It's none of the above. It's firing back at the same hypocrites that pretend no such thing happens on any PS4 branded machine while pointing out the times dynamic resolution or upscaling is used on an XB1 branded machine. What you fail to realize is that you are getting riled up by a comment that is aimed at like 3 specific people, not you.
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twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.
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n00bsaib0t 1 day ago#37
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

It's trolling to make similar claims about the XB1 as well. You don't seem to give a shit about that, though.
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slyman19 1 day ago#38
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.

That still is incredibly bad that it hits that level, even for a second.
slyman19 1 day ago#39
uptown710 posted...
In this topic :

PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

Love all around.

I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...
slyman19 1 day ago#40
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

Facts are trolling now?
Solis 1 day ago#41
So you don't realize that console hardware doesn't automatically dictate game resolution and that it's entirely the decision of the developers? I mean hell, even the PS3 could run games at 4K "native", I guess the PS3 is just the most powerful console out there!

https://youtu.be/-igVVU8nzjI?t=516
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slyman19 1 day ago#42
Solis posted...
So you don't realize that console hardware doesn't automatically dictate game resolution and that it's entirely the decision of the developers? I mean hell, even the PS3 could run games at 4K "native", I guess the PS3 is just the most powerful console out there!

https://youtu.be/-igVVU8nzjI?t=516

The fact is, the Pro should never hit 720p, especially for it's outrageous price point.
n00bsaib0t posted...
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

It's trolling to make similar claims about the XB1 as well. You don't seem to give a shit about that, though.


Of course it is. I don't know where you get that I don't care about that though. Xbox is my primary system and I've been supporting it since day 1, purchased two originals, traded one in for the One S, and will be buying one or two One X systems.

I don't like trolling no matter which side it is aimed at. The console wars are stupid and sinking to the level of the ones initially trolling is just as bad as the initial trolling.
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slyman19 posted...
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

Facts are trolling now?


There are no facts there. There are not games running at 720p. There is a single game that will rarely hit 720p in an optional mode that prioritizes 60fps but does not consistently run at 720p.
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slyman19 1 day ago#46
phoenix9291 posted...
slyman19 posted...
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

Facts are trolling now?


There are no facts there. There are not games running at 720p. There is a single game that will rarely hit 720p in an optional mode that prioritizes 60fps but does not consistently run at 720p.

Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.
Satchmo25 1 day ago#47
slyman19 posted...
Solis posted...
So you don't realize that console hardware doesn't automatically dictate game resolution and that it's entirely the decision of the developers? I mean hell, even the PS3 could run games at 4K "native", I guess the PS3 is just the most powerful console out there!

https://youtu.be/-igVVU8nzjI?t=516

The fact is, the Pro should never hit 720p, especially for it's outrageous price point.

This. In the year of our lord, 2017
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slyman19 posted...
phoenix9291 posted...
slyman19 posted...
phoenix9291 posted...
twinstarnumber1 posted...
slyman19 posted...
Connora711 posted...
While the PS4 pro is running games in 720p. Thanks for a nother reason to buy this masterpiece. Don't call me a Fanboy I have a PC (best defense I can come up with)

Uh, what game is 720 on the Pro?


Nioh on the PS4 Pro. It's either gross ignorance or over exaggeration when they constantly attempt to make it seem like there are "games" on the Pro running at 720p because one of the many performance/graphics settings in Nioh contains a performance mode that RARELY dips to 720p while keeping a locked 60fps. Which is funny because Nioh is the very definition of what these consoles should be for, giving gamers the option to play the game exactly how they want to play it.


Thank you! It is nice seeing more people take this stance. It doesn't really matter who the "Pro is running games at 720p" is aimed at, it is trolling either way if it is aimed at getting certain people riled up.

Facts are trolling now?


There are no facts there. There are not games running at 720p. There is a single game that will rarely hit 720p in an optional mode that prioritizes 60fps but does not consistently run at 720p.

Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.


If someone is saying that it runs the game at 720p that sure sounds like what it is the majority of the time, otherwise you can just as easily say it runs at any of the other resolutions it hits. But yes you are right with your final statement.

Even then though those who bring this up typically say games, as in plural, which is wrong and not a fact which is where the trolling comes into play.
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Solis 1 day ago#49
slyman19 posted...
Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.

Why not? "720p" is just a resolution. There's absolutely no requirement of how many pixels are rendered in a game, it's entirely the developer's choice. They felt that dropping the game to 720p (in very rare moments) was acceptable to achieve the framerate they desired, when the game was set to a specific "framerate-focused" mode. You could take a GTX 1080ti and bring it to its knees at 480p under a graphically intensive game, so the PS4 Pro dipping down to 720p during brief moments is hardly something to criticize.

Again, hardware does NOT determine framerate or resolution. It's the developer's choice, and until consoles have fully variable resolution options like PC games do, it's silly to assume that a certain console will be able to achieve a certain resolution all the time.

Amusingly, that exact game you're talking about can also run at a full 4K at a variable framerate, should you choose to run it at that.
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Bumbleoni 1 day ago#50
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    slyman19 1 day ago#52
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

    The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.

    Why not? "720p" is just a resolution. There's absolutely no requirement of how many pixels are rendered in a game, it's entirely the developer's choice. They felt that dropping the game to 720p (in very rare moments) was acceptable to achieve the framerate they desired, when the game was set to a specific "framerate-focused" mode. You could take a GTX 1080ti and bring it to its knees at 480p under a graphically intensive game, so the PS4 Pro dipping down to 720p during brief moments is hardly something to criticize.

    Again, hardware does NOT determine framerate or resolution. It's the developer's choice, and until consoles have fully variable resolution options like PC games do, it's silly to assume that a certain console will be able to achieve a certain resolution all the time.

    Amusingly, that exact game you're talking about can also run at a full 4K at a variable framerate, should you choose to run it at that.

    I guess you don't have any standards. Some of us do and we will criticize insanity such as the Pro dropping to 720p.
    Solis 1 day ago#53
    slyman19 posted...
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

    The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.

    Why not? "720p" is just a resolution. There's absolutely no requirement of how many pixels are rendered in a game, it's entirely the developer's choice. They felt that dropping the game to 720p (in very rare moments) was acceptable to achieve the framerate they desired, when the game was set to a specific "framerate-focused" mode. You could take a GTX 1080ti and bring it to its knees at 480p under a graphically intensive game, so the PS4 Pro dipping down to 720p during brief moments is hardly something to criticize.

    Again, hardware does NOT determine framerate or resolution. It's the developer's choice, and until consoles have fully variable resolution options like PC games do, it's silly to assume that a certain console will be able to achieve a certain resolution all the time.

    Amusingly, that exact game you're talking about can also run at a full 4K at a variable framerate, should you choose to run it at that.

    I guess you don't have any standards. Some of us do and we will criticize insanity such as the Pro dropping to 720p.

    I have standards. They just apply to aspects more than just the resolution a game runs at. Apparently some people are so daft that they can't imagine a game's visuals encompassing anything more than a pixel count. You must think that Ridge Racer 7 on the PS3 (a launch game, no less) which ran at 1080p native is more impressive than something like Star Wars Battlefront on the PS4 running at 900p.
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    slyman19 1 day ago#54
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

    The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.

    Why not? "720p" is just a resolution. There's absolutely no requirement of how many pixels are rendered in a game, it's entirely the developer's choice. They felt that dropping the game to 720p (in very rare moments) was acceptable to achieve the framerate they desired, when the game was set to a specific "framerate-focused" mode. You could take a GTX 1080ti and bring it to its knees at 480p under a graphically intensive game, so the PS4 Pro dipping down to 720p during brief moments is hardly something to criticize.

    Again, hardware does NOT determine framerate or resolution. It's the developer's choice, and until consoles have fully variable resolution options like PC games do, it's silly to assume that a certain console will be able to achieve a certain resolution all the time.

    Amusingly, that exact game you're talking about can also run at a full 4K at a variable framerate, should you choose to run it at that.

    I guess you don't have any standards. Some of us do and we will criticize insanity such as the Pro dropping to 720p.

    I have standards. They just apply to aspects more than just the resolution a game runs at. Apparently some people are so daft that they can't imagine a game's visuals encompassing anything more than a pixel count. You must think that Ridge Racer 7 on the PS3 (a launch game, no less) which ran at 1080p native is more impressive than something like Star Wars Battlefront on the PS4 running at 900p.

    You really have no clue, do you? 1080p should be the absolute minimum the Pro hits. If it doesn't, that's a clear indication of Sony's never ending stupidity. If the One X has the same asinine issue, I'll be there to criticize them too.
    uptown710 posted...
    Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.

    This. I don't see them doing this again, I expect 4-year generations instead.
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    uptown710 posted...
    Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


    Exactly, both are awful consoles.
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    uptown710 1 day ago#59
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.
    "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
    slyman19 1 day ago#60
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.

    Nope. See PC is pretty irrelevant, so them not caring if it has the best multiplats and then caring about the Xbox One X having the best isn't hypocritical since PC gaming is a whole different beast (that's pretty sucky to boot).
    WhiteRosse 1 day ago#61
    The face of an Xbox fan whenever he hears a PS4 fan claiming both consoles are terrible:
    :)
    Xbox One X
    uptown710 1 day ago#62
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.

    Nope. See PC is pretty irrelevant, so them not caring if it has the best multiplats and then caring about the Xbox One X having the best isn't hypocritical since PC gaming is a whole different beast (that's pretty sucky to boot).


    Odd, cause some publishers feel the PC market isn't irrelevant at all. 

    You really got something against the PC don't you?
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    mike468 1 day ago#63
    Vegaskid71 posted...
    keep using the word parity to make your self feel better. lmaoooooooooo the beast


    It's painfully obvious why you're really here. 

    Everyone just block the TC and move on. Nothing to see. The salt is real
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    slyman19 1 day ago#64
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.

    Nope. See PC is pretty irrelevant, so them not caring if it has the best multiplats and then caring about the Xbox One X having the best isn't hypocritical since PC gaming is a whole different beast (that's pretty sucky to boot).


    Odd, cause some publishers feel the PC market isn't irrelevant at all. 

    You really got something against the PC don't you?

    It's more like a dumping ground. Publishers shit out a terrible port and PC gamers buy it.
    uptown710 1 day ago#65
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.

    Nope. See PC is pretty irrelevant, so them not caring if it has the best multiplats and then caring about the Xbox One X having the best isn't hypocritical since PC gaming is a whole different beast (that's pretty sucky to boot).


    Odd, cause some publishers feel the PC market isn't irrelevant at all. 

    You really got something against the PC don't you?

    It's more like a dumping ground. Publishers shit out a terrible port and PC gamers buy it.


    seriously? How many games in the past 3-4 months have been ported horribly to PC?
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    slyman19 1 day ago#66
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    In this topic :

    PS4: some PS4 supporters are being jerks. 

    XB1: some supporters are being hypocrites because when PC gamers would say they had the better version they would reply "pc doesn't matter".

    Love all around.

    I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means...


    Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats". 

    I'm pretty sure that falls under hypocrisy.

    Nope. See PC is pretty irrelevant, so them not caring if it has the best multiplats and then caring about the Xbox One X having the best isn't hypocritical since PC gaming is a whole different beast (that's pretty sucky to boot).


    Odd, cause some publishers feel the PC market isn't irrelevant at all. 

    You really got something against the PC don't you?

    It's more like a dumping ground. Publishers shit out a terrible port and PC gamers buy it.


    seriously? How many games in the past 3-4 months have been ported horribly to PC?

    Can't say. I gave up on garbage PC gaming near the beginning of the year. I was tired of bad ports, dead online lobbies, and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.
    vashkey 1 day ago#67
    Meanwhile the PS4 Pro can't run Final Fantasy XII, a PS2 game, at 4k or even 60fps.
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    n00bsaib0t 1 day ago#68
    slyman19 posted...
    and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.

    Because clearly the console gaming community here is all sunshine and fucking roses, right? People here literally hate each other over some plastic boxes. Pull your head out of your self righteous ass for a minute.

    slyman19 posted...
    See PC is pretty irrelevant

    So irrelevant that console gamers are seeing what PC players can do with resolution, frame rate, and mods and demanding such things out of their consoles. If it was irrelevant the console only gamers wouldn't even know about such issues.
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    uptown710 1 day ago#69
    Can't say. I gave up on garbage PC gaming near the beginning of the year. I was tired of bad ports, dead online lobbies, and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.

    Your opinion. I'm not saying it's flawless but you sure make it sound like pulling teeth.
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    n00bsaib0t posted...

    Because clearly the console gaming community here is all sunshine and fucking roses, right?

    XD
    uptown710 1 day ago#71
    vashkey posted...
    Meanwhile the PS4 Pro can't run Final Fantasy XII, a PS2 game, at 4k or even 60fps.


    Had nothing to do with the pro. The team behind the remaster didn't do 4K, and SE said there would be issues if the coding was altered because the base animation was made for 30fps. 

    DF has an article about it.
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    HornedLion 1 day ago#72
    WhiteRosse posted...
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    WhiteRosse 1 day ago#74
    n00bsaib0t posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.

    Because clearly the console gaming community here is all sunshine and fucking roses, right? People here literally hate each other over some plastic boxes. Pull your head out of your self righteous ass for a minute.


    Don't want to add fire to the pot, but PC gamers argue over each other all the time, over CPU and GPU.
    AMD fans don't really mix well with Intel/Nvdia fans...
    Xbox One X
    uptown710 1 day ago#75
    WhiteRosse posted...
    n00bsaib0t posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.

    Because clearly the console gaming community here is all sunshine and fucking roses, right? People here literally hate each other over some plastic boxes. Pull your head out of your self righteous ass for a minute.



    Don't want to add fire to the pot, but PC gamers argue over each other all the time, over CPU and GPU.
    AMD fans don't really mix well with Intel/Nvdia fans...


    Of course. The point is there are jerks everywhere. PC community isn't utopia by any measure.
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    I see uptown is still salty as fuck over the X1X. 

    *waits for his/her/it's response telling me I just don't understand*
    uptown710 1 day ago#77
    Gurn Blanston posted...
    I see uptown is still salty as fuck over the X1X. 

    *waits for his/her/it's response telling me I just don't understand*


    Lmao another one. Notice I said both the pro and the 1X were bad ideas..? Nah of course you didn't. 

    And why would I be salty over it? Thanks to MS doing play anywhere I get the same games it gets, so... I'm not sure why I'd be anywhere near salty.
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    Mindwipe77 1 day ago#79
    xbox community just looks very immature in this topic
    Laylow12 1 day ago#80
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    n00bsaib0t 1 day ago#81
    Mindwipe77 posted...
    xbox community just looks very immature in this topic

    Nevermind someone from the Playstation community came here to try and mock the Xbox, it couldn't possibly be them looking immature.
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    Oh come on Laylow/HornedLion, you sound upset. Don't tell me you forgot about your infamous Beep Bep topic from 2 years ago? You had a juvenile rage tantrum in there that led to a hilarious suspension. Do I have to post a link for you? *sips tea*
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    Laylow12 posted...
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    Oh come on Laylow/HornedLion, you sound upset. Don't tell me you forgot about your infamous Beep Bep topic from 2 years ago? You had a juvenile rage tantrum in there that led to a hilarious suspension. Do I have to post a link for you? *sips tea*

    @Laylow12

    LMFAO, you poor thing. You just went and deleted your posts in the Beep Bep topic?!? How embarassing!

    Are you upset???
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    Solis 1 day ago#84
    slyman19 posted...
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Solis posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    Who said anything about constant 720p? Seems like you love to assume. 

    The fact is, a game is hitting 720p on the Pro and that should NEVER happen.

    Why not? "720p" is just a resolution. There's absolutely no requirement of how many pixels are rendered in a game, it's entirely the developer's choice. They felt that dropping the game to 720p (in very rare moments) was acceptable to achieve the framerate they desired, when the game was set to a specific "framerate-focused" mode. You could take a GTX 1080ti and bring it to its knees at 480p under a graphically intensive game, so the PS4 Pro dipping down to 720p during brief moments is hardly something to criticize.

    Again, hardware does NOT determine framerate or resolution. It's the developer's choice, and until consoles have fully variable resolution options like PC games do, it's silly to assume that a certain console will be able to achieve a certain resolution all the time.

    Amusingly, that exact game you're talking about can also run at a full 4K at a variable framerate, should you choose to run it at that.

    I guess you don't have any standards. Some of us do and we will criticize insanity such as the Pro dropping to 720p.

    I have standards. They just apply to aspects more than just the resolution a game runs at. Apparently some people are so daft that they can't imagine a game's visuals encompassing anything more than a pixel count. You must think that Ridge Racer 7 on the PS3 (a launch game, no less) which ran at 1080p native is more impressive than something like Star Wars Battlefront on the PS4 running at 900p.

    You really have no clue, do you? 1080p should be the absolute minimum the Pro hits. If it doesn't, that's a clear indication of Sony's never ending stupidity. If the One X has the same asinine issue, I'll be there to criticize them too.

    That's more an indication of your own stupidity, since:

    A: The manufacturer does not determine game resolution

    B: The graphical quality of the game is decided by developers and can be highly variable based on the quality level they choose.

    Lets put it a simple way: if a developer managed to achieve Zootopia quality visuals at 720p, that would be far more impressive than achieving Hoodwinked quality visuals at 1080p, yes? Are you saying that a developer that managed to develop something INCREDIBLY graphically impressive, that you wouldn't even bother to care for their achievement, but instead would just whine about how many pixels are rendered?
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    slyman19 1 day ago#85
    uptown710 posted...
    Can't say. I gave up on garbage PC gaming near the beginning of the year. I was tired of bad ports, dead online lobbies, and the absolutely horrible PC gamer community.

    Your opinion. I'm not saying it's flawless but you sure make it sound like pulling teeth.

    You keep saying "your opinion" like I don't know that. 

    Sure PC isn't literally pulling teeth, but it certainly would be the gaming equivalent. It's simply horrendous.
    RetroGamerX posted...
    So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

    Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.

    I don't think anyone is doubting the X1X will be the better performing console... but it will be a checkerboarding, sub 4k/60fps console, just like the Pro...plus it costs $100 more...so you're getting similar results even after paying the extra cash...
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    Solis 1 day ago#87
    quincy2000a posted...
    RetroGamerX posted...
    So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

    Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.

    I don't think anyone is doubting the X1X will be the better performing console... but it will be a checkerboarding, sub 4k/60fps console, just like the Pro...plus it costs $100 more...so you're getting similar results even after paying the extra cash...

    What do you mean "similar results"? Do you consider the Xbox One and PS4 to have "Similar results" when neither could reach 1080p in a game like Star Wars Battlefront?
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    quincy2000a posted...
    RetroGamerX posted...
    So the X1X will be the best console version to go for. Thanks for the link TC. Can add this as another reason for getting rid of my PS4.

    Please continue to post links showing the X1X as the better performing console.

    I don't think anyone is doubting the X1X will be the better performing console... but it will be a checkerboarding, sub 4k/60fps console, just like the Pro...plus it costs $100 more...so you're getting similar results even after paying the extra cash...

    Flip-fucking-flop.
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    Vegaskid71 posted...
    http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



    UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?
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    slyman19 1 day ago#90
    quincy2000a posted...
    Vegaskid71 posted...
    http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



    UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

    I'm guessing you're not a refined gamer if $100 extra is an issue.
    "uncompromised 4k experience"

    Fck outta here microsoft. enough with the lies
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    slyman19 1 day ago#93
    KinjoTakemura posted...
    True 4K is a beautiful thing isn't it? 


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    @Laylow12

    LMFAO, you poor thing. You just went and deleted your posts in the Beep Bep topic?!? How embarassing!

    Are you upset???


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    vashkey 1 day ago#95
    uptown710 posted...
    vashkey posted...
    Meanwhile the PS4 Pro can't run Final Fantasy XII, a PS2 game, at 4k or even 60fps.


    Had nothing to do with the pro. The team behind the remaster didn't do 4K, and SE said there would be issues if the coding was altered because the base animation was made for 30fps. 

    DF has an article about it.

    Yeah, they didnt do 4k because the PS4 Pro us pathetic and couldnt handle it.

    Digital Foundry isnt Square Enix. The results speak for themselves. You bought the checkerboard pro to play a PS2 game at sub 4k/30fps and now you have to come here and talk about an inept developer failing at an Xbox One X port to make you feel better about your purchase

    Look buddy, ill let you in on a secret. I'm being dismissive about reality, just like you. One developer choosing not to have their game not run at 4k on Xbox One doesnt mean its the fault the hardware.
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    uptown710 1 day ago#97
    vashkey posted...
    uptown710 posted...
    vashkey posted...
    Meanwhile the PS4 Pro can't run Final Fantasy XII, a PS2 game, at 4k or even 60fps.


    Had nothing to do with the pro. The team behind the remaster didn't do 4K, and SE said there would be issues if the coding was altered because the base animation was made for 30fps. 

    DF has an article about it.

    Yeah, they didnt do 4k because the PS4 Pro us pathetic and couldnt handle it.

    Digital Foundry isnt Square Enix. The results speak for themselves. You bought the checkerboard pro to play a PS2 game at sub 4k/30fps and now you have to come here and talk about an inept developer failing at an Xbox One X port to make you feel better about your purchase

    Look buddy, ill let you in on a secret. I'm being dismissive about reality, just like you. One developer choosing not to have their game not run at 4k on Xbox One doesnt mean its the fault the hardware.


    Wow... you do know I don't own an PS Pro right...? I've said it multiple times In this very topic that I feel the Pro and 1X are mistakes. And I never talked about the guys who made KF2... at all. 

    LMFAOOOOOO... crazy. We're making things up now!
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    Anybody who believes all games would be 4k 60fps are dumb anyways. I will take every game at 1800p and 60fps and be happy with it. Plus you will have games that are not native 4k looking better than games are native 4k anyways.. Also, depends on a lot on the quality of your tv and if it's been calibrated.
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    Solis 1 day ago#99
    quincy2000a posted...
    Vegaskid71 posted...
    http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



    UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

    Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?
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    slyman19 posted...
    KinjoTakemura posted...
    True 4K is a beautiful thing isn't it? 


    nlDjVOXZ7HEFW

    You wouldn't know since you're a PlayStation fan.


    I don't care about ForKay...

    I have a Pro for the enhanced visuals with PSVR. Thanks for coming though.
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    3. XBOX X = 1800p
      1. Boards
      2. Xbox One
      3. XBOX X = 1800p
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance...for instance, as has been typically said, 

      900p >>> blurry 720p

      Most realize that consoles only strive to reach the best gaming PC spec performance...and we're willing to accept the console that typically comes closest to it...

      And even with the X1X's checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, I'm sure it will accepted, typically, as providing the best performance a console can provide, just as the Pro is now...
      Q: "I presume there will never be an Xbox One sold without it...Would that be correct?"
      A: "Correct. Xbox One is Kinect." Microsoft VP
      (edited 1 day ago)quote
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?
      uptown710 1 day ago#103
      Battleship_Gray posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".
      "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
      uptown710 posted...
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed.

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.
      uptown710 posted...
      Battleship_Gray posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".


      Because it doesn't matter. PC market is skewed towards a certain demographic. high End PC gaming market is very tiny. 

      When people say they want the best multiplats they are talking about the best on consoles. 

      There are a lot of people who don't give a toss about PC gaming on a higher end scale. Thats why consoles will continue to sell and people will still buy games like GTA and COD on consoles over PC.
      uptown710 23 hours ago#106
      Because it doesn't matter. PC market is skewed towards a certain demographic. high End PC gaming market is very tiny. 

      When people say they want the best multiplats they are talking about the best on consoles


      You do know ea and Ubisoft said about 30% of their sales come from the PC market right? Even AAA publishers can't ignore the PC market anymore. 

      And this same demographic that you mention is what these console refresh systems are aimed at. Hell, at one point people wanted MS to put a frame counter on the 1X. 

      And like someone mentioned before in this topic, the only reason these mid gen consoles are even happening is because of the PC gaming market.
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      ExempliGratia 23 hours ago#107
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed.

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.


      A lot of gamers don't give a shit about 900p vs 1080p or the fps. 


      So yea.. They both aren't needed ( the pro and the x1x) but they exist for people that do care about those things.


      They won't sell more than the og consoles.
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      slyman19 23 hours ago#108
      uptown710 posted...
      Battleship_Gray posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".

      It really doesn't matter. It has its place with F2P and MMOs, but that about it. For AAA games, it's highly irrelevant. Consoles simply dominate it in that regard.
      ExempliGratia posted...
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed.

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.


      A lot of gamers don't give a shit about 900p vs 1080p or the fps. 


      So yea.. They both aren't needed ( the pro and the x1x) but they exist for people that do care about those things.


      They won't sell more than the og consoles.


      Actually FPS directly effects gameplay so yeah a lot of people do care about it. Resolution not so much

      but there is a clear difference btween 1080 and 720. A lot of games with lower res look blurry and washed out.

      And I'm talking abotu people who it directly effects

      I'm pretty sure 90-95% of console gamers play on a HDTV. The % of people playing on 4K TV is tiny. That was my point. 4k irrelevant now.
      (edited 23 hours ago)quote
      n00bsaib0t 23 hours ago#110
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Battleship_Gray posted... 
      uptown710 posted... 
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".

      It really doesn't matter. It has its place with F2P and MMOs, but that about it. For AAA games, it's highly irrelevant. Consoles simply dominate it in that regard.

      An irrelevant market doesn't get games at all, like the WiiU. 30% of a companies sales is far from irrelevant. You would run your business right into the fucking ground if you had one with that mentality.
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      slyman19 23 hours ago#111
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      ExempliGratia posted...
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed.

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.


      A lot of gamers don't give a shit about 900p vs 1080p or the fps. 


      So yea.. They both aren't needed ( the pro and the x1x) but they exist for people that do care about those things.


      They won't sell more than the og consoles.


      Actually FPS directly effects gameplay so yeah a lot of people do care about it. Resolution not so much

      but there is a clear difference btween 1080 and 720. A lot of games with lower res look blurry and washed out.

      And I'm talking abotu people who it directly effects

      I'm pretty sure 90-95% of console gamers play on a HDTV. The % of peopel playing on 4K TV is tiny. That was my point.

      People really don't care about framerate. People want good looking games, not high performance.
      n00bsaib0t 23 hours ago#112
      slyman19 posted...
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      ExempliGratia posted... 
      Januzaj_Dragon posted... 
      uptown710 posted... 
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed. 

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.


      A lot of gamers don't give a shit about 900p vs 1080p or the fps. 


      So yea.. They both aren't needed ( the pro and the x1x) but they exist for people that do care about those things. 


      They won't sell more than the og consoles.


      Actually FPS directly effects gameplay so yeah a lot of people do care about it. Resolution not so much 

      but there is a clear difference btween 1080 and 720. A lot of games with lower res look blurry and washed out. 

      And I'm talking abotu people who it directly effects 

      I'm pretty sure 90-95% of console gamers play on a HDTV. The % of peopel playing on 4K TV is tiny. That was my point.

      People really don't care about framerate. People want good looking games, not high performance.

      So you're saying companies are wasting time with 60 FPS remasters and adding performance options to PS4 Pro enhanced games?
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      uptown710 23 hours ago#113
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Battleship_Gray posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".

      It really doesn't matter. It has its place with F2P and MMOs, but that about it. For AAA games, it's highly irrelevant. Consoles simply dominate it in that regard.


      http://www.pcgamer.com/the-pc-accounts-for-nearly-a-quarter-of-ubisofts-first-quarter-sales/

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-pc-is-a-really-profitable-platform-for-electronic-arts/

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/05/01/surprise-gta-5-is-also-a-massive-hit-on-pc/amp/

      Mind you those are old articles. Do I need anymore proof. PC is quickly becoming recognized as a highly viable platform for gaming. The fact that destiny, which even didn't get a release the first time round, shows that publishers are recognizing this. 

      You are letting your dislike for PCs cloud your objectivity.
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      slyman19 23 hours ago#114
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Battleship_Gray posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Some people here used to say "I don't care if the PC has better performance, it plays just as good on my XBO". 1X gets released, same people go "I'll buy the 1X for the best multiplats".

      Who,?


      Trust me, it's been said. I don't keep an filing system of 2+ year old topics so I can't pull it up. 

      There are already some users on gamefaqs that feel "pc doesn't matter".

      It really doesn't matter. It has its place with F2P and MMOs, but that about it. For AAA games, it's highly irrelevant. Consoles simply dominate it in that regard.


      http://www.pcgamer.com/the-pc-accounts-for-nearly-a-quarter-of-ubisofts-first-quarter-sales/

      http://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-pc-is-a-really-profitable-platform-for-electronic-arts/

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/05/01/surprise-gta-5-is-also-a-massive-hit-on-pc/amp/

      Mind you those are old articles. Do I need anymore proof. PC is quickly becoming recognized as a highly viable platform for gaming. The fact that destiny, which even didn't get a release the first time round, shows that publishers are recognizing this. 

      You are letting your dislike for PCs cloud your objectivity.

      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though.
      RAAAWWWRRR 23 hours ago#115
      Still Superior than the Peasant PS Pro which can't even play any games at true 4K LMAO

      I'm still buying the Xbox X for Minecraft though.
      Kappa123
      uptown710 23 hours ago#116
      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though.

      Wtf are you talking about? I just showed you 3 articles, that are 2 years old at that, show how impressive PC sales are. How could something, which you labeled "shitty", single handedly account for 25-30% overall sales of a AAA publisher?

      I'm convinced. You're just an hater. Opinion ignored.
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      (edited 23 hours ago)quote
      slyman19 23 hours ago#117
      uptown710 posted...
      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though.

      Wtf are you talking about? I just showed you 3 articles, that are 2 years old at that, show how impressive PC sales are. How could something, which you labeled "shitty", single handedly account for 25-30% overall sales of a AAA publisher?

      I'm convinced. You're just an hater. Opinion ignored.

      Do...do you think 25% is good? (Ubisoft is down to 21% I think). Steam has over 120M active users and that's all it can muster? That's shit, but it's PC gaming so it's within expectations. 

      And those GTA numbers are awful. 11M vs 2M is just bad.
      (edited 23 hours ago)quote
      uptown710 23 hours ago#118
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though.

      Wtf are you talking about? I just showed you 3 articles, that are 2 years old at that, show how impressive PC sales are. How could something, which you labeled "shitty", single handedly account for 25-30% overall sales of a AAA publisher?

      I'm convinced. You're just an hater. Opinion ignored.

      Do...do you think 25% is good? (Ubisoft is down to 21% I think). Steam has over 120M active users and that's all it can muster? That's shit, but it's PC gaming so it's within expectations. 

      And those GTA numbers are awful. 11M vs 2M is just bad.


      That was 2M in its first month. Try harder.
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      slyman19 23 hours ago#119
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though.

      Wtf are you talking about? I just showed you 3 articles, that are 2 years old at that, show how impressive PC sales are. How could something, which you labeled "shitty", single handedly account for 25-30% overall sales of a AAA publisher?

      I'm convinced. You're just an hater. Opinion ignored.

      Do...do you think 25% is good? (Ubisoft is down to 21% I think). Steam has over 120M active users and that's all it can muster? That's shit, but it's PC gaming so it's within expectations. 

      And those GTA numbers are awful. 11M vs 2M is just bad.


      That was 2M in its first month. Try harder.

      And what's it at now? 6M? It's been over 2 years since it came out and that's the best it can do. I'm sure the PS4 version is over 15M
      right now.
      The reassurance is real with this topic. Oh look one game that doesn't reach 4K let's make fun of a electronic. Lastly spencer always said devs decide what resolution they want for their games. Doubt most could tell the difference between 1800p and native 4k from several feet away, even if you game on a monitor 3 feet from you you'll barely see a difference
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      n00bsaib0t 22 hours ago#121
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Thanks for providing my point. PC simply can't keep up with consoles. All those dumbass pirates need to stop stealing games and maybe things could turn around for PC gaming. Not likely though. 

      Wtf are you talking about? I just showed you 3 articles, that are 2 years old at that, show how impressive PC sales are. How could something, which you labeled "shitty", single handedly account for 25-30% overall sales of a AAA publisher

      I'm convinced. You're just an hater. Opinion ignored.

      Do...do you think 25% is good? (Ubisoft is down to 21% I think). Steam has over 120M active users and that's all it can muster? That's shit, but it's PC gaming so it's within expectations. 

      And those GTA numbers are awful. 11M vs 2M is just bad.

      How many active users are on PSN right now? I'll let you combine the PSP, PS3, Vita and PS4 to be nice. Fun fact: it's still less than Steam. So if PCs numbers are "shit" what are consoles?

      Also, how dense do you have to be to bring up "all PC gamers pirate!" and then turn around and mention 120 million paying customers?

      You clearly don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're talking about. You're regurgitating all the standard talking points with no coherency or understanding of them what so ever.
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      slyman19 22 hours ago#122
      You obviously can't read worth shit. Might wanna keep that mouth of yours shut.
      uptown710 22 hours ago#123
      @n00bsaib0t 

      Give it up, I just proved he's a liar in the other topic. Said he had to turn down the settings on doom 2016 and that his rig was using an i5 6600k, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 970. Posted a vid with someone using the same setup and they seemed to have no problem running the game maxed with and avg FPS well above 70.
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      slyman19 22 hours ago#124
      uptown710 posted...
      @n00bsaib0t 

      Give it up, I just proved he's a liar in the other topic. Said he had to turn down the settings on doom 2016 and that his rig was using an i5 6600k, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 970. Posted a vid with someone using the same setup and they seemed to have no problem running the game maxed with and avg FPS well above 70.

      Again, PC gaming is ass since there are many factors that can impact a game.
      uptown710 22 hours ago#125
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      @n00bsaib0t 

      Give it up, I just proved he's a liar in the other topic. Said he had to turn down the settings on doom 2016 and that his rig was using an i5 6600k, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 970. Posted a vid with someone using the same setup and they seemed to have no problem running the game maxed with and avg FPS well above 70.

      Again, PC gaming is ass since there are many factors that can impact a game.


      You gave me your main components. CPU, RAM, and GPU. And apparently you got the game to run since you had to "turn down the settings". So if you got that far, there's no reason why you should be having an issue. 

      You didn't say it crashed to the desktop, froze, wouldn't start, etc. You clearly stated that it had to have its settings turned down to run well. Which makes no sense with the configuration you "say" you have. 

      Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies...
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      n00bsaib0t 22 hours ago#126
      slyman19 posted...
      You obviously can't read worth shit. Might wanna keep that mouth of yours shut.

      You're exposing your ignorance with every post you make.
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      Sila98 22 hours ago#127
      I don't understand why everyone cares so much about numbers. If the game looks good, it looks good. If it plays well, it plays well. Get the fuck over it.
      ExempliGratia 22 hours ago#128
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      ExempliGratia posted...
      Januzaj_Dragon posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Not surprising. The Pro and the 1X really was bad moves on both sides. Shoulda just rode out the 8th gen till the 9th.


      On the current shitty xbox One hardware? no way. 

      Both PS4 PRo and XoneX are needed.

      I don't give a flying shit about 4k and nor do a lot of gamers. 

      But the fact is I would rather games run 1080p 60 as opposed to shitty 900p with 25-30FPS.


      A lot of gamers don't give a shit about 900p vs 1080p or the fps. 


      So yea.. They both aren't needed ( the pro and the x1x) but they exist for people that do care about those things.


      They won't sell more than the og consoles.


      Actually FPS directly effects gameplay so yeah a lot of people do care about it. Resolution not so much

      but there is a clear difference btween 1080 and 720. A lot of games with lower res look blurry and washed out.

      And I'm talking abotu people who it directly effects

      I'm pretty sure 90-95% of console gamers play on a HDTV. The % of people playing on 4K TV is tiny. That was my point. 4k irrelevant now.



      Not sure how far a conversation about this can go on based on your assumptions and not facts.

      So yea.. Let's end this here.
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      slyman19 22 hours ago#129
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      @n00bsaib0t 

      Give it up, I just proved he's a liar in the other topic. Said he had to turn down the settings on doom 2016 and that his rig was using an i5 6600k, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 970. Posted a vid with someone using the same setup and they seemed to have no problem running the game maxed with and avg FPS well above 70.

      Again, PC gaming is ass since there are many factors that can impact a game.


      You gave me your main components. CPU, RAM, and GPU. And apparently you got the game to run since you had to "turn down the settings". So if you got that far, there's no reason why you should be having an issue. 

      You didn't say it crashed to the desktop, froze, wouldn't start, etc. You clearly stated that it had to have its settings turned down to run well. Which makes no sense with the configuration you "say" you have. 

      Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies...

      Crashes a normal part of PC gaming so obviously I had those, but I get those with most games.
      n00bsaib0t 22 hours ago#130
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted... 
      uptown710 posted... 
      @n00bsaib0t 

      Give it up, I just proved he's a liar in the other topic. Said he had to turn down the settings on doom 2016 and that his rig was using an i5 6600k, 16GB of ram, and a gtx 970. Posted a vid with someone using the same setup and they seemed to have no problem running the game maxed with and avg FPS well above 70.

      Again, PC gaming is ass since there are many factors that can impact a game.


      You gave me your main components. CPU, RAM, and GPU. And apparently you got the game to run since you had to "turn down the settings". So if you got that far, there's no reason why you should be having an issue. 

      You didn't say it crashed to the desktop, froze, wouldn't start, etc. You clearly stated that it had to have its settings turned down to run well. Which makes no sense with the configuration you "say" you have. 

      Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies...

      Crashes a normal part of PC gaming so obviously I had those, but I get those with most games.

      Crashes are not a normal part of PC gaming. I have a shit ton of Steam games, you can check my library if you want since my name is in my sig. WWE 2k17 is the only one with crashing issues.
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      HornedLion 22 hours ago#131
      Chehkah-bohrd Bahks!
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      I'm a PC gamer and you guys are embarrassing.
      uptown710 22 hours ago#133
      Crashes a normal part of PC gaming so obviously I had those, but I get those with most games.

      Recently I've had The Witcher 3 crash on me, and DS3. Doesn't happen often, but it happens. 

      You know what Never crashed on me?

      Doom. 

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      Solis 21 hours ago#134
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance.

      Absolutely, just as the Xbox One X will typically outperform the PS4 Pro, so I'm not sure why you keep suggesting its results will be "similar". Obviously not every game will be running at 4K native on either system, but the Xbox One X will almost undoubtedly be running MORE games at 4K native than the PS4 Pro will be, just as the PS4 had more games running at 1080p on it than the Xbox One did. Therefore, it makes little sense to say that they're similar just because both will have games that run at resolutions below 4K native, just as it wouldn't make sense to say that the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same just because they both have games that run at resolutions below 1080p. Hence the reason for my comparison.

      To put it simply, the Xbox One X is to the PS4 Pro as the PS4 is to the Xbox One.
      "Walking tanks must exist somewhere for there to be such attention to detail like this in mech sim." - IGN Steel Battalion review
      Splooie 21 hours ago#135
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      uptown710 21 hours ago#136
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.
      "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
      urmie 21 hours ago#137
      It's really sad that the focus of the article is the resolution and not how developer friendly the X is. I guess TC saw "1800p" and quickly had to make a topic about it, probably didn't even read the whole thing. Not only this, but all the details will be at "Ultra" settings. This only shows how great the X is and will be the "definitive" console for multi-plats.

      "Xbox One X was a very smooth and easy platform to develop for. It took very little engineering effort to get our base Xbox One game running on the Xbox One X. It took maybe 4 hours of programming effort total.

      Killing Floor 2 runs at native 1800p, fixed resolution (no checkerboarding) on Xbox One X. We did experiment with true 4k rendering, but the frame rate drop was a bit too significant. 1800p provides the optimal balance between visual quality and performance in Killing Floor 2.

      We don’t have a specific frame rate target for XBox One X, although the game does run at higher frame rates than the base Xbox One, even at 1800p resolution. We will be using Ultra textures on Xbox One X. We are also increasing the resolution of our shadow maps and shadow draw distance."
      Those who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt the one doing it.
      (edited 21 hours ago)quote
      Splooie 21 hours ago#138
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(
      HornedLion 20 hours ago#139
      More good news for the Xbox.
      "Wrong again, clown. I was warned for marking too many posts for trolling." - RonBurgundy929
      uptown710 20 hours ago#140
      Splooie posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(


      Right, the "I'll ignore facts tactic"

      So when the option menu appears and the "1080p 30fps" option appears, your brain blocks it out huh?
      "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
      slyman19 20 hours ago#141
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(


      Right, the "I'll ignore facts tactic"

      So when the option menu appears and the "1080p 30fps" option appears, your brain blocks it out huh?

      Why are you so annoyed that the Pro is doing 720P? Why would a PC gamer care?
      Friends don't let friends play on PC.
      uptown710 20 hours ago#142
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(


      Right, the "I'll ignore facts tactic"

      So when the option menu appears and the "1080p 30fps" option appears, your brain blocks it out huh?

      Why are you so annoyed that the Pro is doing 720P? Why would a PC gamer care?


      Hi person who wasn't involved in this conversation! 

      Since you weren't involved, I can see why you're confused. I'm actually pointing out that the Pro does more than 720p. You know! Being impartial!
      "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
      (edited 20 hours ago)quote
      slyman19 20 hours ago#143
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(


      Right, the "I'll ignore facts tactic"

      So when the option menu appears and the "1080p 30fps" option appears, your brain blocks it out huh?

      Why are you so annoyed that the Pro is doing 720P? Why would a PC gamer care?


      Hi person who wasn't involved in this conversation! 

      Since you weren't involved, I can see why you're confused, in actually pointing out that the Pro does more That 720p. You know! Being impartial!

      Of course it does more, but it also does 720p.
      Friends don't let friends play on PC.
      uptown710 20 hours ago#144
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      slyman19 posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.

      720p...in 2017...premium console...

      :(


      Right, the "I'll ignore facts tactic"

      So when the option menu appears and the "1080p 30fps" option appears, your brain blocks it out huh?

      Why are you so annoyed that the Pro is doing 720P? Why would a PC gamer care?


      Hi person who wasn't involved in this conversation! 

      Since you weren't involved, I can see why you're confused, in actually pointing out that the Pro does more That 720p. You know! Being impartial!

      Of course it does more, but it also does 720p.


      -sigh- one step closer to that ignore...

      He's slighting the PS pro asking why would such a powerful console be doing 720p. He's obviously ignoring the fact that it can also do the same game at 1080. 

      Why do you care?
      "XBone: not for soldiers or Japanese. or astronauts. didn't you know?" - Vorzal
      quincy2000a 19 hours ago#145
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance.

      Absolutely, just as the Xbox One X will typically outperform the PS4 Pro, so I'm not sure why you keep suggesting its results will be "similar". Obviously not every game will be running at 4K native on either system, but the Xbox One X will almost undoubtedly be running MORE games at 4K native than the PS4 Pro will be, just as the PS4 had more games running at 1080p on it than the Xbox One did. Therefore, it makes little sense to say that they're similar just because both will have games that run at resolutions below 4K native, just as it wouldn't make sense to say that the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same just because they both have games that run at resolutions below 1080p. Hence the reason for my comparison.

      To put it simply, the Xbox One X is to the PS4 Pro as the PS4 is to the Xbox One.

      No argument from me on that...did you expect one...? Now only if the 'bone had been $100 cheaper than the PS4...but my Day One wasn't...

      So we'll just pony up that extra $100 for our X1Xs...and still get checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps...less? Yes...
      Q: "I presume there will never be an Xbox One sold without it...Would that be correct?"
      A: "Correct. Xbox One is Kinect." Microsoft VP
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance.

      Absolutely, just as the Xbox One X will typically outperform the PS4 Pro, so I'm not sure why you keep suggesting its results will be "similar". Obviously not every game will be running at 4K native on either system, but the Xbox One X will almost undoubtedly be running MORE games at 4K native than the PS4 Pro will be, just as the PS4 had more games running at 1080p on it than the Xbox One did. Therefore, it makes little sense to say that they're similar just because both will have games that run at resolutions below 4K native, just as it wouldn't make sense to say that the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same just because they both have games that run at resolutions below 1080p. Hence the reason for my comparison.

      To put it simply, the Xbox One X is to the PS4 Pro as the PS4 is to the Xbox One.

      No argument from me on that...did you expect one...? Now only if the 'bone had been $100 cheaper than the PS4...but my Day One wasn't...

      So we'll just pony up that extra $100 for our X1Xs...and still get checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps...less? Yes...


      I hope once you purchase the X1X, that Phil Spencer returns your children that he has kidnapped and currently holds at gunpoint whilst forcing you to buy a console you have been shitting on for the last few months. 

      Oh wait, you DONT have to buy it? He isn't going to murder your family unless you do?

      You really are a worthless mess.
      knight1014139 19 hours ago#147
      Discharged19DCS posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance.

      Absolutely, just as the Xbox One X will typically outperform the PS4 Pro, so I'm not sure why you keep suggesting its results will be "similar". Obviously not every game will be running at 4K native on either system, but the Xbox One X will almost undoubtedly be running MORE games at 4K native than the PS4 Pro will be, just as the PS4 had more games running at 1080p on it than the Xbox One did. Therefore, it makes little sense to say that they're similar just because both will have games that run at resolutions below 4K native, just as it wouldn't make sense to say that the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same just because they both have games that run at resolutions below 1080p. Hence the reason for my comparison.

      To put it simply, the Xbox One X is to the PS4 Pro as the PS4 is to the Xbox One.

      No argument from me on that...did you expect one...? Now only if the 'bone had been $100 cheaper than the PS4...but my Day One wasn't...

      So we'll just pony up that extra $100 for our X1Xs...and still get checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps...less? Yes...


      I hope once you purchase the X1X, that Phil Spencer returns your children that he has kidnapped and currently holds at gunpoint whilst forcing you to buy a console you have been shitting on for the last few months. 

      Oh wait, you DONT have to buy it? He isn't going to murder your family unless you do?

      You really are a worthless mess.
      XBL Gamertag: TheRevan Lord
      https://youtu.be/goyZmicZkDQ
      phoenix9291 13 hours ago#148
      uptown710 posted...
      Splooie posted...
      I'd be laughing too, considering $ony's premium console runs at a whopping 720p in 2017. 

      Greatness awaits.
      -_- and yet the same game has an 1080 option...

      Hmmm.


      The more I see it posted and the more I think about it too, the action mode RUNS (as many like to say) at a dynamic resolution. To say it RUNS at 720p is to suggest that that is the main resolution in that mode when it is just one of multiple and one that is rare in that mode. Yes it HITS 720p which is a fact and fine to criticize but to say it RUNS at 720p is a twisting of the facts in order to troll. 

      If you are trolling the trolls you are just as bad if not worse and this is why I point it out since some seem a little sensitive when you ignore the normal trolls in order to not feed them and try to point out that it is just as pathetic to skew the facts to troll trolls.
      Not changing sig until Flyers win the cup
      Solis 12 hours ago#149
      quincy2000a posted...
      No argument from me on that...did you expect one...? Now only if the 'bone had been $100 cheaper than the PS4...but my Day One wasn't...

      So we'll just pony up that extra $100 for our X1Xs...and still get checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps...less? Yes...

      It's pretty irrelevant what the Xbox One originally cost years ago, since we're talking technical capabilities and upcoming consoles, not price of previous consoles.

      And for a vastly superior experience, $100 more seems entirely fair, but that's only relevant if the person is DECIDING between the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X. If they already have an Xbox One, or a PS4, then it's an entirely different scenario based on their desires. Moreover, the PS4 Pro costs $100 more than the PS4, so either way you're paying more for better performance, it's just up to the consumer whether they'd rather get the specs the PS4 provides, an improved experience on the PS4 Pro, or an even more improved experience on the Xbox One. If cost is an issue, then neither the PS4 Pro nor the Xbox One X would be worthwhile options, in which case they should simply stick to the Xbox One/PS4.
      "Walking tanks must exist somewhere for there to be such attention to detail like this in mech sim." - IGN Steel Battalion review
      archibald3 9 hours ago#150
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Solis posted...
      quincy2000a posted...
      Vegaskid71 posted...
      http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/



      UNLEASH THE BEAST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      See, this is where we are now...we are starting to get the real picture of what the X1X will do, in spite of what was initially said...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...but the future of the X1X will contain checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps, similar to what the Pro does...and maybe it should...I mean, it's only an extra $100, right...?

      Just like how the PS4 is unable to achieve 1080p in every game? Star Wars Battlefront for example can't hit 1080p on either the Xbox One OR the PS4, so do you consider the two systems to be similar in performance?

      No one here ever said the PS4 was a cosistent 1080p console... and you know you're lying when you even bring that up...

      What has been said and will continue to be said is that typically the PS4 will outperform the 'bone/'bone S..that's it...so it matters not that neither can do Battlefront at 1080p...it matters that one console can definitely give a better performance.

      Absolutely, just as the Xbox One X will typically outperform the PS4 Pro, so I'm not sure why you keep suggesting its results will be "similar". Obviously not every game will be running at 4K native on either system, but the Xbox One X will almost undoubtedly be running MORE games at 4K native than the PS4 Pro will be, just as the PS4 had more games running at 1080p on it than the Xbox One did. Therefore, it makes little sense to say that they're similar just because both will have games that run at resolutions below 4K native, just as it wouldn't make sense to say that the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same just because they both have games that run at resolutions below 1080p. Hence the reason for my comparison.

      To put it simply, the Xbox One X is to the PS4 Pro as the PS4 is to the Xbox One.

      No argument from me on that...did you expect one...? Now only if the 'bone had been $100 cheaper than the PS4...but my Day One wasn't...

      So we'll just pony up that extra $100 for our X1Xs...and still get checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps...less? Yes...


      " ...manufacturing costs produced by industry analysis firm IHS Markit suggests that its UHD BD drive likely costs around $40. A not insignificant sum, but arguably not enough to warrant Sony deciding to leave such an important feature out..."
      Arch.
      1. Boards
      2. Xbox One 
      3. XBOX X = 1800p

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