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VR commited the same mistake as 3D

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DrChocolate 5 hours ago#1
Released before the technology was perfected at a high price...who the hell takes those decisions on these companies?

Looks like they just hire directors who just have Ivy league school degrees and experience in completely unrelated fields such as cereals, poop transport and enchiladas....

people don't feel that the drop of resolution for 3D and VR is worth it, besides in 3D you have to wear uncomfortable glasses, lots of flickering and bad angles, the new 3ds is the only barelly acceptable form of 3D comercially released so far. for VR besides the resolution drop it is very very expensive and only some games fully support it, regular games should at least allow you to look arround like if you were a lakitu in super mario 64.

both 3D and VR could have been huge, but the idiots who run the busuness seem to be desperate for quick cash instead of something that could have given them more money in te end.


They just release the technologies before they are fully ready, comfortable and posible to be produced at a good price
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dueric 5 hours ago#2
At least 3D tech actually improved over the last 30 years.
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BibikiBayBoy 5 hours ago#3
it's like complaining companies shouldn't make cars when they can't make affordable electric self-driving cars for every plebs.
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KI11AK 5 hours ago#4
That price point really upsets people.

How many here have it?
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SpinoRaptor24 5 hours ago#5
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?
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dueric 4 hours ago#6
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


Dude, it's the tech. Nobody wants to get sick while wearing a helmet. Simple as that.

3D failed in the home because the shit was too expensive.
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DrChocolate 4 hours ago#7
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc
dueric 4 hours ago#8
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?
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The_DOAM 4 hours ago#9
dueric posted...
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?

They currently are if they wanted to maximize profits they would have held it off until later its extremely basic stuff and you see it in other products. Self driving cars and countless other products are being held back until there cheap and safe enough to build a proper base.

VR is too expensive and hard to market they released it too high and too early only a few people own it which isn't enough for any developer to really take is seriously. Such a small base isn't enticing and even a small issue is overblown as it spreads through the small community.

Instead of a future blossum its a wilting flower and that will also harm future investments and stiffles growth even Microsoft decided not to invest in VR with their X and so will other companies. 

In the long run its better to wait till you can get the product safely in the hands of as many people as possible than to jump the gun.

3d on the other hand was fine it was given in mass with 3d theaters and even teh 3ds was released rather cheaply.
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dueric 4 hours ago#10
The_DOAM posted...
dueric posted...
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?

They currently are if they wanted to maximize profits they would have held it off until later its extremely basic stuff and you see it in other products. Self driving cars and countless other products are being held back until there cheap and safe enough to build a proper base.

VR is too expensive and hard to market they released it too high and too early only a few people own it which isn't enough for any developer to really take is seriously. Such a small base isn't enticing and even a small issue is overblown as it spreads through the small community.

Instead of a future blossum its a wilting flower and that will also harm future investments and stiffles growth even Microsoft decided not to invest in VR with their X and so will other companies. 

In the long run its better to wait till you can get the product safely in the hands of as many people as possible than to jump the gun.

3d on the other hand was fine it was given in mass with 3d theaters and even teh 3ds was released rather cheaply.


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PoetSaskia 4 hours ago#11
dueric posted...
At least 3D tech actually improved over the last 30 years.

I don't agree because I had the 3d glasses for the Sega Master system and they worked perfectly well without the souped-up, super-demanding specs of the more recent 3D. Space Harrier 3D was fantastic. 120 frames per second isn't necessary to produce the effect.
dueric 4 hours ago#12
PoetSaskia posted...
dueric posted...
At least 3D tech actually improved over the last 30 years.

I don't agree because I had the 3d glasses for the Sega Master system and they worked perfectly well without the souped-up, super-demanding specs of the more recent 3D. Space Harrier 3D was fantastic. 120 frames per second isn't necessary to produce the effect.


I had those glasses too and from what I remember not only were they huge but they had to be plugged in.
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Lol VR
Wut iz this 1991 ?
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dueric 4 hours ago#14
NextGenISbetter posted...
Lol VR
Wut iz this 1991 ?


Must be earlier than that because we spell it "what" and "is" these days.
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Hollywood nWo 4 hours ago#15
DrChocolate posted...
Released before the technology was perfected at a high price...who the hell takes those decisions on these companies?

Looks like they just hire directors who just have Ivy league school degrees and experience in completely unrelated fields such as cereals, poop transport and enchiladas....

people don't feel that the drop of resolution for 3D and VR is worth it, besides in 3D you have to wear uncomfortable glasses, lots of flickering and bad angles, the new 3ds is the only barelly acceptable form of 3D comercially released so far. for VR besides the resolution drop it is very very expensive and only some games fully support it, regular games should at least allow you to look arround like if you were a lakitu in super mario 64.

both 3D and VR could have been huge, but the idiots who run the busuness seem to be desperate for quick cash instead of something that could have given them more money in te end.


They just release the technologies before they are fully ready, comfortable and posible to be produced at a good price


Technology and perfected should never be in the same sentence. Right off the bat your point is moot.
Hollywood nWo 4 hours ago#16
KI11AK posted...
That price point really upsets people.

How many here have it?


I have it, it was a steal compared to what Occulous came out at. More expensive than most phones, but it's not the same quality as PSVR.
KI11AK 4 hours ago#17
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


Is that why you go on and on about it? Because youre not into it?
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Hollywood nWo 4 hours ago#18
The_DOAM posted...
dueric posted...
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?

They currently are if they wanted to maximize profits they would have held it off until later its extremely basic stuff and you see it in other products. Self driving cars and countless other products are being held back until there cheap and safe enough to build a proper base.

VR is too expensive and hard to market they released it too high and too early only a few people own it which isn't enough for any developer to really take is seriously. Such a small base isn't enticing and even a small issue is overblown as it spreads through the small community.

Instead of a future blossum its a wilting flower and that will also harm future investments and stiffles growth even Microsoft decided not to invest in VR with their X and so will other companies. 

In the long run its better to wait till you can get the product safely in the hands of as many people as possible than to jump the gun.

3d on the other hand was fine it was given in mass with 3d theaters and even teh 3ds was released rather cheaply.


You're comparing the difference of high end cars/mass affordable cars to PSVR/Consoles?
KI11AK 4 hours ago#19
Hollywood nWo posted...
KI11AK posted...
That price point really upsets people.

How many here have it?


I have it, it was a steal compared to what Occulous came out at. More expensive than most phones, but it's not the same quality as PSVR.


Yeah its damn cheap for a vr headset
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tripZ504 4 hours ago#20
Since we have some tech experts here. 

How do they "perfect" it? 

Also. What kind of logic thinks if they went all out and "perfected" it would make it cheaper?
kislev 3 hours ago#21
If it was cheaper it would be a huge success
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tripZ504 3 hours ago#22
kislev posted...
If it was cheaper it would be a huge success


How so?
PS4TW 3 hours ago#23
VR will always be niche even if it's 100 dollars. Sticking a headset on your face is just not something your average casual cares about longterm. Same with 3dtv you had to wear a pair of glasses which nobody wants to do everytime you watch a film lol.
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fhunter476 3 hours ago#24
tripZ504 posted...
Since we have some tech experts here. 

How do they "perfect" it? 

Also. What kind of logic thinks if they went all out and "perfected" it would make it cheaper?

You do realize the people most vocal about it are just trolling right?

They don't want to discuss anything, they just want to people to argue with them and VR is an easy target since it's in it's infancy. 

Unpopular opinions always get the most responses on this site and that's all they are after.

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tripZ504 3 hours ago#25
I know they are. 

If they cant provide some sort of proof behiend their claims then its considered false information.
95_Eclipse 3 hours ago#26
dueric posted...
At least 3D tech actually improved over the last 30 years.


Right, Psvr is exactly the same as Virtual boy.
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Gryffindor1 3 hours ago#27
PS4TW posted...
VR will always be niche even if it's 100 dollars. Sticking a headset on your face is just not something your average casual cares about longterm. Same with 3dtv you had to wear a pair of glasses which nobody wants to do everytime you watch a film lol.


https://superdata-research.myshopify.com/products/report-virtual-reality-consumers

Male millennials are most likely to use console headsets over any other device (52%) since 3 in 4 are gamers.
95_Eclipse 3 hours ago#28
On a serious note, anyone who's played on one of the VR headsets knows its the way of the future.
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Hollywood nWo 3 hours ago#29
PS4TW posted...
VR will always be niche even if it's 100 dollars. Sticking a headset on your face is just not something your average casual cares about longterm. Same with 3dtv you had to wear a pair of glasses which nobody wants to do everytime you watch a film lol.


Is putting on glasses that much of a hassle? Also fortunately ever movie isn't native 3D.
95_Eclipse posted...
On a serious note, anyone who's played on one of the VR headsets knows its the way of the future.



Lol 1991 came and went
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Gryffindor1 3 hours ago#31
NextGenISbetter posted...
95_Eclipse posted...
On a serious note, anyone who's played on one of the VR headsets knows its the way of the future.



Lol 1991 came and went


Yeah. Remember when cell phones never became a thing after the 80s? Those fools thinking it would ever become mainstream lmao.
RandomUltra 3 hours ago#32
95_Eclipse posted...
On a serious note, anyone who's played on one of the VR headsets knows its the way of the future.


Specially for sim racing, Oculus Rift plus SIM racers = immersion heaven 

Hopefully we will get PSVR 2 with the PS5 and the second Oculus soon, that way I can sell my current VR sets to the poor people that can't afford full price.
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


This is what it is for me. I don't care if the graphics and framerate was better than ps4 I still wouldn't use vr because I just don't want to play that way, I don't even want to try it.
Gryffindor1 2 hours ago#34
the36thchamber posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


This is what it is for me. I don't care if the graphics and framerate was better than ps4 I still wouldn't use vr because I just don't want to play that way, I don't even want to try it.


Lmfao!
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Fou Lu 2 hours ago#35
What? That it was a fad? It was kind of obvious but the sheep bought it up thinking history wouldn't repeat itself.
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Gryffindor1 2 hours ago#37
anonymous02135 posted...
psvr is dead like kinect. move on with your life.


That reassurance!
KI11AK 2 hours ago#38
Vr bogeyman
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dueric posted...
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?

They'd do it for Randolph Scott.

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Gibberish5 48 minutes ago#40
KI11AK posted...

How many here have it?

*Raises hand*
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dueric 46 minutes ago#41
Breastmilkn_Dip posted...
dueric posted...
DrChocolate posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Why do we always assume that it's the technology's fault that VR never took off? Have people already forgotten about the Virtual Boy?

Do any of you actually stop and think for a second that maybe people just aren't that into VR/3D?


@SpinoRaptor24 It is not the tech...its the companies fault that they release it too early before it is cheaper, doesnt provide a hughe graphics downgrade, etc


Why in the Wide Wide World of Sports would a company want to minimize profits?

They'd do it for Randolph Scott.


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riddlebox89 28 minutes ago#42
tripZ504 posted...
kislev posted...
If it was cheaper it would be a huge success


How so?



Simple really, lower the price tag and more people will buy the product, sure you'll make less money on individual sales, but you'd make more in the long run as you'd have more people buying it with a lower price tag than you would if it had a higher price tag.


95_Eclipse posted...
On a serious note, anyone who's played on one of the VR headsets knows its the way of the future.



You know, people said the same thing about motion controls, 3D and digital distribution. How well did those work out?

Motion controls are a fad and the only company that still commonly puts them in games is Nintendo.

3D was a bust, the only thing that still does it is the 3DS.

Physical copies are still going strong and not going anywhere anytime soon and the one attempt at a digital only gaming system (PSPGo) was a failure, and what would've been the second attempt (XBone) was met with overwhelming negative criticism to the point where the decision to make it all digital was scrapped entirely.

People on gamefaqs who say "It's the way of the future!" don't have a very good track record.
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NicoGrimm 26 minutes ago#43
Some of you are either trolling or just stupid, and I'm not convinced you have the intelligence to troll.
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OhGoodGrief 23 minutes ago#44
I refuse to use vr until it require no peripherals :)
Gryffindor1 19 minutes ago#45
OhGoodGrief posted...
I refuse to use vr until it require no peripherals :)


Wtf? That's like saying I refuse to listen to music until it requires no sound.

GFAQs just gets dumber and dumber every day.
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SomeSayKos 16 minutes ago#46
This OP has a ton of assumptions that may or may not be the case. All of it essentially comes down to the same thing.. you don't know what ROI they were looking for.
SomeSayKos 13 minutes ago#47
riddlebox89 posted...
tripZ504 posted...
kislev posted...
If it was cheaper it would be a huge success


How so?



Simple really, lower the price tag and more people will buy the product, sure you'll make less money on individual sales, but you'd make more in the long run as you'd have more people buying it with a lower price tag than you would if it had a higher price tag.

If a product costs you $300 to make and you sell it for $200 you're going to actually lose more and more money with each unit you sell..
Hollywood nWo 1 minute ago#48
Fou Lu posted...
What? That it was a fad? It was kind of obvious but the sheep bought it up thinking history wouldn't repeat itself.


Repeat itself how? PSVR released more games in a few months than Virtual boy did in it's entire lifespan. Or are you talking about another device to compare it to?
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