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Are u buying Yokai Watch 2: Psychic Specters?

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dankmana 5 days ago#1
Well, are you?

I was always interesting in these games, but the dual release turned me off. This one looks definitive?

Are we getting a demo? Is this real?
LuigiFan835 5 days ago#2
No, probably not. First game got really repetitive because there were only three soultimate commands and three purification commands. This ruined the entire game. It's a shame too, because the rest of the game was pretty good. Didn't get Yokai Watch 2 because I heard they reused the map and only added one soultimate and purification command.
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dankmana 5 days ago#3
Fair enough. I'm actually not really into most JRPG style games, due to the repetitive nature. 

Can anyone comment on how the Soultimate stuff was improved in version 2, if at all?
Cocco 5 days ago#4
Yes... I waited because I knew that there was the possibility of psychic specters coming west. The first game was good, but didn't really surprised me. Recruiting is now easier and trading finally possible (looks like level 5 is trying to make it a bit more similar to pokemon in this sense). Will give it a second chance. If I don't see improvement I may stop following the series, but the first entry was promising enough to give it a second try
Onipaladin 4 days ago#5
I want it but only if capture rate is raised. I have terrible luck at anything rng. And I quit part 1 because I would spend hours in one area failing to get a new monster. 

I know I should have just moved on but I like capturing everything and it bothered me I had to spend hours and hours on something just for a completion point.
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Blayshy 4 days ago#6
No.
Yokai Watch tries to be the next Pokemon. But there is something missing for YW...
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LuigiFan835 4 days ago#7
Blayshy posted...
No.
Yokai Watch tries to be the next Pokemon. But there is something missing for YW...

I see people say this, not really true. Yokai watch is quite a bit different. Pokémon had a far superior battle system but I actually like Yokai Watch's setting more, as it feels more realistic.
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@LuigiFan835 posted...
No, probably not. First game got really repetitive because there were only three soultimate commands and three purification commands. This ruined the entire game. It's a shame too, because the rest of the game was pretty good. Didn't get Yokai Watch 2 because I heard they reused the map and only added one soultimate and purification command.

Let me guess, if it was like Paper Mario and TTYD, it would be the greatest game ever?
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To answer the question, yes I am getting it. It looks better than anything GameFreak can do even though I like Sun and Moon. I thought XY were garbage.
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LuigiFan835 4 days ago#10
@SeamusOHassey posted...
@LuigiFan835 posted...
No, probably not. First game got really repetitive because there were only three soultimate commands and three purification commands. This ruined the entire game. It's a shame too, because the rest of the game was pretty good. Didn't get Yokai Watch 2 because I heard they reused the map and only added one soultimate and purification command.

Let me guess, if it was like Paper Mario and TTYD, it would be the greatest game ever?

I don't know what this has to do with anything. You just ignored the complaint, knew I loved Paper Mario 64 and TTYD, and made an ad hominem attack. Hell, if you really want to bring those games into this, then yes, their battle systems are far superior to the battle system in Yokai Watch
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Llama_mama 4 days ago#11
Yup. I'm excited.
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LuigiFan835 posted...
@SeamusOHassey posted...
@LuigiFan835 posted...
No, probably not. First game got really repetitive because there were only three soultimate commands and three purification commands. This ruined the entire game. It's a shame too, because the rest of the game was pretty good. Didn't get Yokai Watch 2 because I heard they reused the map and only added one soultimate and purification command.

Let me guess, if it was like Paper Mario and TTYD, it would be the greatest game ever?

I don't know what this has to do with anything. You just ignored the complaint, knew I loved Paper Mario 64 and TTYD, and made an ad hominem attack. Hell, if you really want to bring those games into this, then yes, their battle systems are far superior to the battle system in Yokai Watch

I was being sarcastic in case you weren't aware. I understand that you missed it because it wasn't a rehash. Just saying.
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mnkboy907 4 days ago#13
It's possible, but I'm not gonna make it a priority. YW1 was enjoyable enough, but that's about it. I plan on getting Monster Hunter Stories next, and depending on how fast I play through that it might be time for Pokemon US/UM already. I dunno what I'd get next after that, though, so Psychic Specters could be an early 2018 purchase for me. Maybe I'll do Ace Attorney 6 first to break up the monster catching games back to back to back.
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DiduXD 4 days ago#14
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.
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Bat178 4 days ago#15
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.

Why would you hope that, why is less localized games a good thing? Some people really like the series, you know.
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munkey55 4 days ago#16
Bat178 posted...
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.

Why would you hope that, why is less localized games a good thing? Some people really like the series, you know.

Yeah I agree. What's with people having this mentality?
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Llama_mama 4 days ago#17
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.

Not every game was made for you specifically you know. 
And IMO, Yokai Watch was far more enjoyable than Pokemon
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0-172 4 days ago#18
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.


Funny, Yokai Watch is vastly superior to Pokemon. What exactly makes it a cheap ripoff?

Why the hell would you hope that? Yokai Watch provides necessary competition for Pokemon. Its proven that Pokemon has become far too stale.
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DiduXD 4 days ago#19
0-172 posted...
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.


Funny, Yokai Watch is vastly superior to Pokemon. What exactly makes it a cheap ripoff?

Why the hell would you hope that? Yokai Watch provides necessary competition for Pokemon. Its proven that Pokemon has become far too stale.

Most Yokai have ripped off Pokemon. You're just jealous Yokai Watch doesn't have any major tournaments like Pokemon.
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Not really. I couldn't get into Yokai Watch. Especially with the localization. It's like Ace Attorney lolworthy localization but without clever writing and charm.
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HyperonicX 4 days ago#21
No, at least not right away.

I haven't played any of the previous games as of yet.
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Skull_pro 4 days ago#23
Already preloaded it. Gonna double dip and get the physical version.
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Verkins 4 days ago#24
Nope. Busy with Pokemon and Monster Hunter.
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0-172 4 days ago#26
DiduXD posted...
0-172 posted...
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.


Funny, Yokai Watch is vastly superior to Pokemon. What exactly makes it a cheap ripoff?

Why the hell would you hope that? Yokai Watch provides necessary competition for Pokemon. Its proven that Pokemon has become far too stale.

Most Yokai have ripped off Pokemon. You're just jealous Yokai Watch doesn't have any major tournaments like Pokemon.


What the f*** are you talking about? Wanna provide some examples/evidence?

Jealous about something that I dont even care about?
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LuigiFan835 4 days ago#27
@0-172 posted...
DiduXD posted...
No, because Yokai Watch is a cheap Pokemon ripoff. Also, hoping this is the last game in the series that gets localized.


Funny, Yokai Watch is vastly superior to Pokemon. What exactly makes it a cheap ripoff?

Why the hell would you hope that? Yokai Watch provides necessary competition for Pokemon. Its proven that Pokemon has become far too stale.

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.

SeamusOHassey posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...
@SeamusOHassey posted...
@LuigiFan835 posted...
No, probably not. First game got really repetitive because there were only three soultimate commands and three purification commands. This ruined the entire game. It's a shame too, because the rest of the game was pretty good. Didn't get Yokai Watch 2 because I heard they reused the map and only added one soultimate and purification command.

Let me guess, if it was like Paper Mario and TTYD, it would be the greatest game ever?

I don't know what this has to do with anything. You just ignored the complaint, knew I loved Paper Mario 64 and TTYD, and made an ad hominem attack. Hell, if you really want to bring those games into this, then yes, their battle systems are far superior to the battle system in Yokai Watch

I was being sarcastic in case you weren't aware. I understand that you missed it because it wasn't a rehash. Just saying.

Ok, sorry about that. Either way, unless they fix the battle system I doubt I'll play another Yokai Watch game.
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Stealy 4 days ago#28
I found the first game interesting enough, but not enough to buy the second one at full price. If I find it at a discount I'd give it a shot. I heard about the crappy train system in the second and that has put me off. I hated how in the first one the warping didn't open up until over half way through(if I remember right).
nikowwf 4 days ago#29
Yep. Preloaded. Love the complaints that have nothing to do with the game by people who didn't really play the game. Carry on!
0-172 4 days ago#30
LuigiFan835 posted...

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.


Admittedly its an acquired taste, but I love the battle system in Yokai Watch. I find it to be a refreshing change of pace after the same old thing for years.
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nikowwf 4 days ago#31
0-172 posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.


Admittedly its an acquired taste, but I love the battle system in Yokai Watch. I find it to be a refreshing change of pace after the same old thing for years.


The battle system isn't very active if you fight weak monsters. But in pokemon do you do some deep analysis fighting weaker monsters either? Or just hit button over and over.

Fighting some of the bosses in Yokai Watch is ten times harder than anything in Pokemon.
0-172 4 days ago#32
nikowwf posted...
0-172 posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.


Admittedly its an acquired taste, but I love the battle system in Yokai Watch. I find it to be a refreshing change of pace after the same old thing for years.


The battle system isn't very active if you fight weak monsters. But in pokemon do you do some deep analysis fighting weaker monsters either? Or just hit button over and over.

Fighting some of the bosses in Yokai Watch is ten times harder than anything in Pokemon.


Great point. The battle system also shines in PvP where active strategy is necessary.
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LuigiFan835 4 days ago#33
0-172 posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.


Admittedly its an acquired taste, but I love the battle system in Yokai Watch. I find it to be a refreshing change of pace after the same old thing for years.

Maybe so, but it feels like you have too little control, and as I've already mentioned in this topic, the times you do have control, it's really boring, because the commands are way too easy to pull off and there aren't very many.

Now don't get me wrong, I love pretty much everything else about the game. I like the more realistic setting and most of the creature designs are interesting. But the battle system is so mediocre, which sucks, because although the rest of the game is fun, the battle system really brings it down

nikowwf posted...
The battle system isn't very active if you fight weak monsters. But in pokemon do you do some deep analysis fighting weaker monsters either? Or just hit button over and over.

Fighting some of the bosses in Yokai Watch is ten times harder than anything in Pokemon.

Yes, you just spam the button fighting weaker monsters in Pokémon as well, but the battle system is still deep enough to where you can make good strategies, something that I didn't find was too present in Yokai Watch.

Have you played Gen 3 or 4? Yokai Watch is harder than all of Gen 5, 6, and 7, but the older games were much harder. I don't think I had a lot of trouble with the bosses
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Stuckdogg 4 days ago#34
Eventually. I liked the first one enough to play the sequel but I wouldn't get to it for awhile so I will wait a bit and maybe buy it used or at a discount if possible.
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I'm getting it because it's better than Pokemon with far better challenge. I died more times in Yokai Watch than I ever did in Pokemon. There's a reason why Pokemon was outdone in Japan by Yokai Watch.
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ChimeraBlue 4 days ago#37
LuigiFan835 posted...
Blayshy posted...
No.
Yokai Watch tries to be the next Pokemon. But there is something missing for YW...

I see people say this, not really true. Yokai watch is quite a bit different. Pokémon had a far superior battle system but I actually like Yokai Watch's setting more, as it feels more realistic.


I absolutely love the setting and art direction of Yokai Watch, but ultimately this wasn't enough to keep me playing. The battle system wasn't great, but the absolute worst feature is how annoying it is to befriend Yokai. I can remember trying to befriend a round samurai spirit thing in a haunted house and it took me over an hour of constantly throwing their favorite food before I was able to get one. It wasn't even all that rare either.

I quit soon after.
Llama_mama 3 days ago#38
ChimeraBlue posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...
Blayshy posted...
No.
Yokai Watch tries to be the next Pokemon. But there is something missing for YW...

I see people say this, not really true. Yokai watch is quite a bit different. Pokémon had a far superior battle system but I actually like Yokai Watch's setting more, as it feels more realistic.


I absolutely love the setting and art direction of Yokai Watch, but ultimately this wasn't enough to keep me playing. The battle system wasn't great, but the absolute worst feature is how annoying it is to befriend Yokai. I can remember trying to befriend a round samurai spirit thing in a haunted house and it took me over an hour of constantly throwing their favorite food before I was able to get one. It wasn't even all that rare either.

I quit soon after.

It's better in the second game, now you can equip something for a better chance, plus a new "poke" feature that allows you to get a better chance. Still not a 100% chance though.
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Skull_pro 3 days ago#39
nikowwf posted...
0-172 posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...

Yokai Watch will never be superior to Pokémon with that mediocre battle system. The battle system is the most important part in any RPG, and because the one is Yokai Watch's isn't too great, it is NOT superior to Pokémon.


Admittedly its an acquired taste, but I love the battle system in Yokai Watch. I find it to be a refreshing change of pace after the same old thing for years.


The battle system isn't very active if you fight weak monsters. But in pokemon do you do some deep analysis fighting weaker monsters either? Or just hit button over and over.

Fighting some of the bosses in Yokai Watch is ten times harder than anything in Pokemon.

This is something I agree 100% on. Boss fights in Yo-Kai Watch typically need a lot more strategy than just clicking the move your enemy is weak too (and in the case of Pokemon Sun amd Moon, the game does the thinking for you because it actually tells you beforehand if your moves are gonna be effevtive oflr not.
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Doomion33 3 days ago#40
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.
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Skull_pro 3 days ago#41
Doomion33 posted...
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.

At least you get more than just 2 new monster and 3 new formes. Like Pokemon.
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Semeki 3 days ago#42
Not at full price. I tried the demo for the first one, ...it was ok but i never liked turned based games and rng. 

Also not soon after the first YW localization, fleshy souls and bony spirits were soon launch over in Japan.

So even more reasons why i didnt consider purchasing, also read complaints about trading, collecting, battling etc.

Might get it next year just to get an experience of YW.
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LuigiFan835 3 days ago#43
Skull_pro posted...
Doomion33 posted...
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.

At least you get more than just 2 new monster and 3 new formes. Like Pokemon.

Yes, but these third versions are more of an ultimate version, there's a lot less reason to buy them if you have the original. I still think the way they do it is kind of s***ty and they should let you download the Ultra DLC to your copy of SM ($10 seems reasonable but it would have probably ended up being like $20) but the third version practice isn't inherently bad.
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nikowwf 3 days ago#44
LuigiFan835 posted...
Skull_pro posted...
Doomion33 posted...
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.

At least you get more than just 2 new monster and 3 new formes. Like Pokemon.

Yes, but these third versions are more of an ultimate version, there's a lot less reason to buy them if you have the original. I still think the way they do it is kind of s***ty and they should let you download the Ultra DLC to your copy of SM ($10 seems reasonable but it would have probably ended up being like $20) but the third version practice isn't inherently bad.

If it was $10 there would be no third version. If it was paid DLC there'd be no third version. I get saying you don't want to pay for it, but the thought you can get it but pay less isn't realistic.
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LuigiFan835 3 days ago#46
nikowwf posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...
Skull_pro posted...
Doomion33 posted...
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.

At least you get more than just 2 new monster and 3 new formes. Like Pokemon.

Yes, but these third versions are more of an ultimate version, there's a lot less reason to buy them if you have the original. I still think the way they do it is kind of s***ty and they should let you download the Ultra DLC to your copy of SM ($10 seems reasonable but it would have probably ended up being like $20) but the third version practice isn't inherently bad.

If it was $10 there would be no third version. If it was paid DLC there'd be no third version. I get saying you don't want to pay for it, but the thought you can get it but pay less isn't realistic.

Ultra Sun and Moon would be $40, while getting Sun and Moon plus the Ultra DLC would probably be like $60. What's so unrealistic about that? You would have USUM which are kind of like an upgraded version of SM, or you could just upgrade your SM copy for a lower price.

@SeamusOHassey posted...
That guy is always being unrealistic.

Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.
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I still have Fleshy Souls in my backlog so I'm not sure there is really any reason for me to get this.

I might snag it at a deep discount if it ever goes on sale for around $20 but I'm not worried about it right now.
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@LuigiFan835 posted...
Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.

I'm just saying. You're always being unrealistic.
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nikowwf 3 days ago#49
LuigiFan835 posted...
nikowwf posted...
LuigiFan835 posted...
Skull_pro posted...
Doomion33 posted...
I had a lot of fun with Fleshy Souls, but Psychic Specters is gonna have to wait. $40 for an incremental upgrade so soon isn't my cup of tea, same with USUM.

At least you get more than just 2 new monster and 3 new formes. Like Pokemon.

Yes, but these third versions are more of an ultimate version, there's a lot less reason to buy them if you have the original. I still think the way they do it is kind of s***ty and they should let you download the Ultra DLC to your copy of SM ($10 seems reasonable but it would have probably ended up being like $20) but the third version practice isn't inherently bad.

If it was $10 there would be no third version. If it was paid DLC there'd be no third version. I get saying you don't want to pay for it, but the thought you can get it but pay less isn't realistic.

Ultra Sun and Moon would be $40, while getting Sun and Moon plus the Ultra DLC would probably be like $60. What's so unrealistic about that? You would have USUM which are kind of like an upgraded version of SM, or you could just upgrade your SM copy for a lower price.

@SeamusOHassey posted...
That guy is always being unrealistic.

Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.


It's unrealistic in the companies WON'T DO IT. They have a price point they are willing to do this stuff at, and it's clearly not DLC.
RikashiX 3 days ago#50
Probably not. Because the first game was a chore to get through the beginning..and in the 2nd game they did the same like the main character became stupid and had to relearn what yokai were..so I got bored real quick . But if Yokai3 just dumps you into with light recap that's fine.
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    SeamusOHassey posted...
    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.

    I'm just saying. You're always being unrealistic.


    And you're always just saying.

    On-topic, no. I've never bought a Yo-Kai Watch game. Played the demo of the first and didn't enjoy it.
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    Skull_pro 3 days ago#53
    Ace-of-Clubs posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.

    I'm just saying. You're always being unrealistic.


    And you're always just saying.

    On-topic, no. I've never bought a Yo-Kai Watch game. Played the demo of the first and didn't enjoy it.

    To be fair though, I didn't enjoy the demo either. But when I got the game trhough the 2DS bundle (needed an extra one for streetpass and self trading purposes) I actually loved the game and went and bought a physical copy for my "main" 3DS.

    The demo really, REALLY don't do the game justice. Demo for Yo-Kai watch 2 is even worse.
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    LuigiFan835 3 days ago#54
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Nice rebuttal. You also didn't address my post in the other topic, which means you probably had no comeback, lol.

    I'm just saying. You're always being unrealistic.

    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke.

    nikowwf posted...
    It's unrealistic in the companies WON'T DO IT. They have a price point they are willing to do this stuff at, and it's clearly not DLC.

    I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what they're doing with this game, except that it's free?

    I never expected Game Freak to do it, because this is something they've done even with the invention of DLC. I just said that it would be a lot more reasonable.
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    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.
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    LuigiFan835 3 days ago#56
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.
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    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.

    I think the fact that you are stubbornly arguing me down about liking Paper Mario Sticker Star over DT and calling it the worst says more than enough without me having to elaborate.
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    StephenYap3 3 days ago#58
    Nope. I absolutely loathed the battle system of the first game and looking at the footages for the second game(s) and onwards, it doesn't seem to look any better to me. Part of what makes an RPG's Battle System enjoyable is that you have control over your party's actions and therefore, you have control over the outcome of battles, whether it be just an attack, spells, and such. Yo-Kai Watch had neither of that for me and the sole fact that the majority of your inputs are basically rotating your team around and playing those pointless minigames all with the touch screen, all while watching your team attacking monsters against your own will, really hurt the experience. Not to mention that you often have to occasionally rotate your inspirited Yo-kai to the back to cure them (of course, if you're only three or less Yo-kai left alive all inspirited and you're outnumbered...Game Over...too bad for you...) or even rotate them to the front to have them perform a special attack, both by playing a redundant minigame.

    I am willing to accept any kind of new idea to an RPG battle system, provided they work, but Yo-Kai Watch did nothing to impress me. It's no doubt one of the worst Battle Systems I have ever seen yet, and I've played Sticker Star, Color Splash, Pokemon, and even Moco Moco Friends. Neither of those games' battle systems are not even half as bad as Yo-Kai Watch's, in my opinion.

    Now, if Level-5 were to announce Fantasy Life 2 on Switch...I would be all hyped for that. And no, I'm not interested in the phone game.
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    Llama_mama 3 days ago#59
    StephenYap3 posted...

    Now, if Level-5 were to announce Fantasy Life 2 on Switch...I would be all hyped for that. And no, I'm not interested in the phone game.

    Please yes.
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    LuigiFan835 3 days ago#60
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.

    I think the fact that you are stubbornly arguing me down about liking Paper Mario Sticker Star over DT and calling it the worst says more than enough without me having to elaborate.

    Not really. That has nothing to do with me being unrealistic. You're the one who brought up Paper Mario in this topic in the first place
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    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.

    I think the fact that you are stubbornly arguing me down about liking Paper Mario Sticker Star over DT and calling it the worst says more than enough without me having to elaborate.

    Not really. That has nothing to do with me being unrealistic. You're the one who brought up Paper Mario in this topic in the first place

    I think you tend to have unrealistic expectations. Just saying.
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    LuigiFan835 2 days ago#62
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.

    I think the fact that you are stubbornly arguing me down about liking Paper Mario Sticker Star over DT and calling it the worst says more than enough without me having to elaborate.

    Not really. That has nothing to do with me being unrealistic. You're the one who brought up Paper Mario in this topic in the first place

    I think you tend to have unrealistic expectations. Just saying.

    Like what, exactly? You keep saying this and not giving me examples.
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    Compass 1 day ago#63
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    In what way? For wanting a good Paper Mario? You're a f***ing joke

    I never said anything about Paper Mario here itt. I was just saying.

    Are you ever not just saying? You can't just say I'm being unrealistic and not elaborate.

    I think the fact that you are stubbornly arguing me down about liking Paper Mario Sticker Star over DT and calling it the worst says more than enough without me having to elaborate.

    Sticker Star was far better than Tutorial Team. How is that even a question.
    Compass posted...
    Sticker Star was far better than Tutorial Team. How is that even a question.

    Thank you. I don't know why he is so adamant about it.

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Like what, exactly? You keep saying this and not giving me examples.

    I have, actually. Every time I say SS is better than Dream Tutorial, you say it's not with some elaborate reasoning.
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    @SeamusOHassey posted...
    Compass posted...
    Sticker Star was far better than Tutorial Team. How is that even a question.

    Thank you. I don't know why he is so adamant about it.

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Like what, exactly? You keep saying this and not giving me examples.

    I have, actually. Every time I say SS is better than Dream Tutorial, you say it's not with some elaborate reasoning.


    @Compass How about you actually elaborate on why you think that? You all are complete jokes.

    Of course I do, that's the whole f***ing point of an argument. You just say SS is better than DT. I give you reasoning as to why it's not. How about you give me examples as to why it is instead of just adding tutorial to its name?

    Funny thing is, one of SS's main problems was that there was a complete lack of direction at certain points because the sticker you needed could be anywhere. Same thing went for the bosses to a lesser extent. So good job criticizing a game for having too many tutorials and not criticizing a game for having too few hints/instructions. Just proves how much of a joke you are your agenda is.
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    ZeldaFan14 1 day ago#67
    I haven't played Yo-kai 2 yet, so maybe. I was thinking about getting Bony Spirits though, not Psychic Specters.
    Llama_mama 1 day ago#68
    ZeldaFan14 posted...
    I haven't played Yo-kai 2 yet, so maybe. I was thinking about getting Bony Spirits though, not Psychic Specters.

    Physic Specters has more yokai and a few more quests. You can also pick your side, so Id just go with PS.
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    Nah. The demo for the first Yokai Watch turned me off the series because of how bad the combat was.
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    SymphonicGlory posted...
    Nah. The demo for the first Yokai Watch turned me off the series because of how bad the combat was.

    The demo isn't a good representation of the game. Just saying. LuigiFan835 posted...
    You all are complete jokes.

    Apparently internet arguments are serious business for you.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Of course I do, that's the whole f***ing point of an argument. You just say SS is better than DT. I give you reasoning as to why it's not. How about you give me examples as to why it is instead of just adding tutorial to its name?

    You give your opinion why. I already told you why. I think Dream Tutorial is a boring mess. I like the sense of exploration and discovery in SS. How many times do I have to tell you that?

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Funny thing is, one of SS's main problems was that there was a complete lack of direction at certain points because the sticker you needed could be anywhere. Same thing went for the bosses to a lesser extent. So good job criticizing a game for having too many tutorials and not criticizing a game for having too few hints/instructions. Just proves how much of a joke you are your agenda is.

    I'm all for tutorials that are optional, but forced at every f***ing moment is pushing it. Hence why Paper Jam is the better game. Why does it even matter if I like SS more than Dream Tutorial?
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    Llama_mama 1 day ago#71
    How did this turn into an argument about Mario
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    @SeamusOHassey posted...
    SymphonicGlory posted...
    Nah. The demo for the first Yokai Watch turned me off the series because of how bad the combat was.

    The demo isn't a good representation of the game. Just saying. LuigiFan835 posted...
    You all are complete jokes.

    Apparently internet arguments are serious business for you.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Of course I do, that's the whole f***ing point of an argument. You just say SS is better than DT. I give you reasoning as to why it's not. How about you give me examples as to why it is instead of just adding tutorial to its name?

    You give your opinion why. I already told you why. I think Dream Tutorial is a boring mess. I like the sense of exploration and discovery in SS. How many times do I have to tell you that?

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Funny thing is, one of SS's main problems was that there was a complete lack of direction at certain points because the sticker you needed could be anywhere. Same thing went for the bosses to a lesser extent. So good job criticizing a game for having too many tutorials and not criticizing a game for having too few hints/instructions. Just proves how much of a joke you are your agenda is.

    I'm all for tutorials that are optional, but forced at every f***ing moment is pushing it. Hence why Paper Jam is the better game. Why does it even matter if I like SS more than Dream Tutorial?

    The problem with liking Sticker Star and Color Splash means Nintendo keeps making s***ty Paper Mario games. That's why it matters so much. Fans of SS and CS ARE RUINING PAPER MARIO.

    The constant tutorials aren't even throughout the whole game, only the first five hours.
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    Llama_mama posted...
    How did this turn into an argument about Mario

    SeamusOHassey got offended that I said the battle system of Yokai Watch was bad, so he brought up my hatred for Paper Mario SS/CS and love for Paper Mario 64/TTYD because he knew he couldn't address my faults with the combat system in Yokai Watch. This backfired, as I destroyed his argument about Mario anyway.
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    Llama_mama posted...
    How did this turn into an argument about Mario

    Ongoing argument.

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    The problem with liking Sticker Star and Color Splash means Nintendo keeps making s***ty Paper Mario games. That's why it matters so much. Fans of SS and CS SHOULD NOT EXIST.

    I get it, we should just be like you and be ignorant about everything. Are you listening to yourself right now? Who are you to say what someone should be a fan of and shouldn't be a fan of? LuigiFan835 posted...
    The constant tutorials aren't even throughout the whole game, only the first five hours.

    I think you're overlooking the rest. The game is unnecessarily long and tedious. That's just what it is, bub.
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    @SeamusOHassey posted...
    Llama_mama posted...
    How did this turn into an argument about Mario

    Ongoing argument.

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    The problem with liking Sticker Star and Color Splash means Nintendo keeps making s***ty Paper Mario games. That's why it matters so much. Fans of SS and CS SHOULD NOT EXIST.

    I get it, we should just be like you and be ignorant about everything. Are you listening to yourself right now? Who are you to say what someone should be a fan of and shouldn't be a fan of?

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    The constant tutorials aren't even throughout the whole game, only the first five hours.

    I think you're overlooking the rest. The game is unnecessarily long and tedious. That's just what it is, bub.

    Lol, ignorant? I have played all Mario and Luigi and Paper Mario games multiple times (except CS which I've only played once), so I definitely know what I'm talking about. You also clearly didn't read why fans of CS and SS shouldn't exist.

    Unless you explain how, your point is invalid. Sorry.

    The fact that you had to make an alt really shows it all.
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    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Lol, ignorant? I have played all Mario and Luigi and Paper Mario games multiple times (except CS which I've only played once), so I definitely know what I'm talking about. You also clearly didn't read why fans of CS and SS shouldn't exist.

    And? Do you want a trophy or something? Playing them all doesn't stop you from being ignorant. Just saying.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Unless you explain how, your point is invalid. Sorry.

    Your entire argument is invalid.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    The fact that you had to make an alt really shows it all.

    What the f***?
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    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Lol, ignorant? I have played all Mario and Luigi and Paper Mario games multiple times (except CS which I've only played once), so I definitely know what I'm talking about. You also clearly didn't read why fans of CS and SS shouldn't exist.

    And? Do you want a trophy or something? Playing them all doesn't stop you from being ignorant. Just saying.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Unless you explain how, your point is invalid. Sorry.

    Your entire argument is invalid.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    The fact that you had to make an alt really shows it all.

    What the f***?

    Actually, it does. I can't be ignorant on what I'm talking about if I've played all the games multiple times, since obviously I would be pretty familiar with all of them.

    Except it isn't. You can't call my opinion invalid because I've actually justified my points, something you haven't done.

    Don't f***ing play dumb, I know @NGageBro is your alt.
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    NGageBro 1 day ago#78
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    SeamusOHassey posted...
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Lol, ignorant? I have played all Mario and Luigi and Paper Mario games multiple times (except CS which I've only played once), so I definitely know what I'm talking about. You also clearly didn't read why fans of CS and SS shouldn't exist.

    And? Do you want a trophy or something? Playing them all doesn't stop you from being ignorant. Just saying.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    Unless you explain how, your point is invalid. Sorry.

    Your entire argument is invalid.

    LuigiFan835 posted...
    The fact that you had to make an alt really shows it all.

    What the f***?

    Actually, it does. I can't be ignorant on what I'm talking about if I've played all the games multiple times, since obviously I would be pretty familiar with all of them.

    Except it isn't. You can't call my opinion invalid because I've actually justified my points, something you haven't done.

    Don't f***ing play dumb, I know @NGageBro is your alt.

    I am nobody's alt. Everything you said is wrong. This is how the Mario rpg games are ranked :

    Thousand year door > Super Mario rpg legend of seven stars = Bowser Inside Story > superstar saga > Paper Mario 64 > Super Paper Mario > Paper Jam > Color Splash = Partner in Time = Sticker Star > Dream Team

    Dreamteam is really the only bad one. Color Splash, partner in Time, and Sticker Star are okay, and the rest are great
    Compass 18 hours ago#79
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    @SeamusOHassey posted...
    Compass posted...
    Sticker Star was far better than Tutorial Team. How is that even a question.

    Thank you. I don't know why he is so adamant about it.

    @LuigiFan835 posted...
    Like what, exactly? You keep saying this and not giving me examples.

    I have, actually. Every time I say SS is better than Dream Tutorial, you say it's not with some elaborate reasoning.


    @Compass How about you actually elaborate on why you think that? You all are complete jokes.

    Of course I do, that's the whole f***ing point of an argument. You just say SS is better than DT. I give you reasoning as to why it's not. How about you give me examples as to why it is instead of just adding tutorial to its name?

    Funny thing is, one of SS's main problems was that there was a complete lack of direction at certain points because the sticker you needed could be anywhere. Same thing went for the bosses to a lesser extent. So good job criticizing a game for having too many tutorials and not criticizing a game for having too few hints/instructions. Just proves how much of a joke you are your agenda is.

    And yet I beat SS without a walkthrough with virtually no problem.* So apparently giant flashing arrows and hand-holding aren't quite as necessary for everyone as in the picture you paint.

    *I did need a walkthrough very early on, not for any puzzle, but because I overlooked a rather obvious branching path. No fault of the game.
    ZeldaFan14 16 hours ago#80
    Llama_mama posted...
    ZeldaFan14 posted...
    I haven't played Yo-kai 2 yet, so maybe. I was thinking about getting Bony Spirits though, not Psychic Specters.

    Physic Specters has more yokai and a few more quests. You can also pick your side, so Id just go with PS.


    Oh cool! I'll definitely look into PS then.
    Kaos-Mass 16 hours ago#81
    Eh, maybe later down the line.

    I tried Fleshy Souls and while the game is full of charm,I found the recruitment system to be awful.
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    Bat178 13 hours ago#82
    Kaos-Mass posted...
    Eh, maybe later down the line.

    I tried Fleshy Souls and while the game is full of charm,I found the recruitment system to be awful.

    Actually, something nobody has brought up here is that you can continue right where you left off in Fleshy Souls/Bony Spirits in Psychic Specters if you have a save file for one of them.
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    LuigiFan835 10 hours ago#83
    @Compass posted...
    And yet I beat SS without a walkthrough with virtually no problem.* So apparently giant flashing arrows and hand-holding aren't quite as necessary for everyone as in the picture you paint.

    *I did need a walkthrough very early on, not for any puzzle, but because I overlooked a rather obvious branching path. No fault of the game.

    So did I, actually, except once. Doesn't change the fact that it was a problem the game was criticized for. Also, your second sentence is literally "It wasn't a problem for me, so it can't be a problem for everyone else". Lmao.

    Also, I never denied that DT had too much handholding, maybe pay more attention?
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    Aquamew 9 hours ago#84
    Thinking about it, but although I know it has new areas, it's still gonna make me run all over the same places I already did in 1 and Bony Spirits...

    ...And I'm not seeing it listed on Amazon at all, so I guess that's a no.
    Llama_mama 9 hours ago#85
    Aquamew posted...
    Thinking about it, but although I know it has new areas, it's still gonna make me run all over the same places I already did in 1 and Bony Spirits...

    ...And I'm not seeing it listed on Amazon at all, so I guess that's a no.

    You can transfer your save data from BS to PS.
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    NGageBro 2 hours ago#86
    LuigiFan835 posted...
    @Compass posted...
    And yet I beat SS without a walkthrough with virtually no problem.* So apparently giant flashing arrows and hand-holding aren't quite as necessary for everyone as in the picture you paint.

    *I did need a walkthrough very early on, not for any puzzle, but because I overlooked a rather obvious branching path. No fault of the game.

    So did I, actually, except once. Doesn't change the fact that it was a problem the game was criticized for. Also, your second sentence is literally "It wasn't a problem for me, so it can't be a problem for everyone else". Lmao.

    Also, I never denied that DT had too much handholding, maybe pay more attention?

    Everything you said is wrong. Sticker Star is awesome
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