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Why does Michael Pachter get so much hate for predictions when...

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ThaPrinceRaziel 12 hours ago#1
Reggie Fils Aime straight up lies to the consumers, but Nintendo fans don't seem to mind? It's one thing to guess at something and be wrong, but knowingly giving false information to consumers?

Why the hypocrisy?
Baha05 12 hours ago#2
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
PS4Warrior 12 hours ago#3
Reggie is special he works for Nintendo. What did Reggie lie about?
PS4 - Because it was the next gen console i was the most interested in.
Warrior - Because i usually pick the Warrior class in MMORPGs when i played them.
JorgenDev 12 hours ago#4
Reggie doesn't make any of the very big choices. He's just a glorified translator for America. People give him too much s***, he's good at what he does.
QueenLUCiNA 12 hours ago#5
Reggie promised Metroid at the beginning of the year, I got two of them. He's good in my book.
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Mr_Big_Boss 12 hours ago#6
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?


How many times has Reggie made a statement?
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Yomigaeru 12 hours ago#7
Reggie is essentially the face of Nintendo outside of Japan, yet he has little say in what the home office does. He's the one that has to try and justify stupid practices like not including an AC adapter with the New 3DS, or having to use a smartphone app for voice chat in Splatoon 2. At worst, if he's lying about something...he's doing it to keep his job.

Michael Pachter is an industry analyst that is notorious for being wrong. Beyond that, he always frequently provides commentary on industry happenings (such as calling gamers "whiny" with regard to the controversy over Mass Effect 3's endings). I think he even called Iwata "the late and not so great" last year (which is wholly unprofessional, regardless of your opinion of the man).

While people may feel Reggie lies to them, I doubt he's ever outright insulted them like Pachter has done on a few occasions.
AstralFrost 12 hours ago#8
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.
Finally you will come to understand the extent of Nintendo's greed and Sony's love of gamers.
doutforharambe 12 hours ago#9
Why do you care?
Playing dat Persona 5!
Starwars4J 12 hours ago#10
Just gonna leave this here:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/
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Terra-enforcer 12 hours ago#11
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?

Probably 2:1 ratio. Mother, about 5 different thing concerning the Wii U (exclusives, third party, why it wasn't selling, saying it would pick up, etc), recently with the NES and SNES debacles, etc.

Here's just a few:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/72056061
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-reggie-fils-aime-3ds-tablet-launch/
http://kotaku.com/5947113/watch-reggie-fils-aime-talk-all-things-nintendo-on-spike-tv-tonight
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Chemazan 11 hours ago#12
Because Reggie is adorkable while Patcher is a dickhead who desperately wants to be "groovy" like the xtremely kool kidz
Starwars4J 11 hours ago#13
Terra-enforcer posted...
Mother

What did he lie about regarding mother?
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Pineapple5 11 hours ago#14
AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.


I feel like this comment might ruffle a few feathers.
Baha05 11 hours ago#15
Terra-enforcer posted...
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?

Probably 2:1 ratio. Mother, about 5 different thing concerning the Wii U (exclusives, third party, why it wasn't selling, saying it would pick up, etc), recently with the NES and SNES debacles, etc.

Here's just a few:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/72056061
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-reggie-fils-aime-3ds-tablet-launch/
http://kotaku.com/5947113/watch-reggie-fils-aime-talk-all-things-nintendo-on-spike-tv-tonight

First seems pretty high, I would think Patcher has a higher ratio of beign wrong.

Second that last link you posted what exactly is that in reference to?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
StickMen1090 11 hours ago#16
Terra-enforcer posted...
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?

Probably 2:1 ratio. Mother, about 5 different thing concerning the Wii U (exclusives, third party, why it wasn't selling, saying it would pick up, etc), recently with the NES and SNES debacles, etc.

Here's just a few:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/72056061
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-reggie-fils-aime-3ds-tablet-launch/
http://kotaku.com/5947113/watch-reggie-fils-aime-talk-all-things-nintendo-on-spike-tv-tonight

i take it you dont follow Patcher
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doutforharambe 11 hours ago#17
AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.

If history has shown anything its that astral is a concern troll on sony's imaginary payroll.
Playing dat Persona 5!
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slyman19 11 hours ago#18
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.
AstralFrost 11 hours ago#19
doutforharambe posted...
AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.

If history has shown anything its that astral is a concern troll on sony's imaginary payroll.

What? What does that mean?
Finally you will come to understand the extent of Nintendo's greed and Sony's love of gamers.
Baha05 11 hours ago#20
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
slyman19 11 hours ago#21
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?

How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.
Starwars4J 11 hours ago#22
slyman19 posted...
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?

How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/

So...
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Baha05 11 hours ago#23
slyman19 posted...
How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

So in other words you don't have an answer
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
slyman19 11 hours ago#24
Starwars4J posted...
slyman19 posted...
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?

How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/

So...

"...we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want." Massive lie right there.
Terra-enforcer 11 hours ago#25
@Baha05 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?

Probably 2:1 ratio. Mother, about 5 different thing concerning the Wii U (exclusives, third party, why it wasn't selling, saying it would pick up, etc), recently with the NES and SNES debacles, etc.

Here's just a few:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/72056061
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-reggie-fils-aime-3ds-tablet-launch/
http://kotaku.com/5947113/watch-reggie-fils-aime-talk-all-things-nintendo-on-spike-tv-tonight

First seems pretty high, I would think Patcher has a higher ratio of beign wrong.

Second that last link you posted what exactly is that in reference to?

You say pretty high when I provided sources while you haven't shown s*** in response. Not a good argument.

And for the last link, watch the video it's referencing and it shows Reggie making a s***ton of lies and dodging various questions.
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slyman19 11 hours ago#26
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

So in other words you don't have an answer

Reggie is one of the faces of Nintendo. He gives a lot of comments.
Baha05 11 hours ago#27
slyman19 posted...
"...we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want." Massive lie right there.

Not really because without getting data the want of all the consumers will VASTLY differ between each and every point.
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
Baha05 11 hours ago#28
Terra-enforcer posted...
You say pretty high when I provided sources while you haven't shown s*** in response. Not a good argument.

And watch the video it's referencing and it shows Reggie making a s***ton of lies and dodging various questions.


And yet you use three examples for a ratio, really not a good stance on your end either.

And can you summarize the lies? I got noscript and really don't want to figure out what needs activating video wise >__>
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
Terra-enforcer 11 hours ago#29
StickMen1090 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?

Probably 2:1 ratio. Mother, about 5 different thing concerning the Wii U (exclusives, third party, why it wasn't selling, saying it would pick up, etc), recently with the NES and SNES debacles, etc.

Here's just a few:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/72056061
https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-reggie-fils-aime-3ds-tablet-launch/
http://kotaku.com/5947113/watch-reggie-fils-aime-talk-all-things-nintendo-on-spike-tv-tonight

i take it you dont follow Patcher

I do, I just know that he can be right sometimes while Reggie is just the PR guy for Nintendo which basically forces him to lie because of his position alone. See links above.
Terra-enforcer 11 hours ago#30
Baha05 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
You say pretty high when I provided sources while you haven't shown s*** in response. Not a good argument.

And watch the video it's referencing and it shows Reggie making a s***ton of lies and dodging various questions.


And yet you use three examples for a ratio, really not a good stance on your end either.

And can you summarize the lies? I got noscript and really don't want to figure out what needs activating video wise >__>

Each of those links has multiple examples so don't even try that s***. It's not just "three." And the video I referenced has even more. Stop trying to mitigate what I posted because you're too lazy to take two seconds to click a link.

Also what I provided is somehow not a good stance in comparison to actually nothing? >5 examples versus 0 seems like a damn good argument in my favor if you ask anyone with half a brain.
Baha05 11 hours ago#31
Soo what are the lies in the second link then/ Also yeah the stance is pretty bad when you claim to have five examples and not even pointing out what they are on top of brushing aside Patcher's mistakes
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Starwars4J 11 hours ago#32
slyman19 posted...
Starwars4J posted...
slyman19 posted...
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?

How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/

So...

"...we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want." Massive lie right there.

Yeah man. Zelda, Mario, Metroid x2, Kirby, third party support...oh wait, that just proves him right :S

Seriously you'll nitpick a few things but ignore how he told the truth about Metroid. Your personal vendetta is just sad
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Baha05 11 hours ago#33
slyman19 11 hours ago#34
Starwars4J posted...
Yeah man. Zelda, Mario, Metroid x2, Kirby, third party support...oh wait, that just proves him right :SSeriously you'll nitpick a few things but ignore how he told the truth about Metroid. Your personal vendetta is just sad

Third party support? Do you f***ing honestly believe the Switch's third party support is acceptable?
ThaPrinceRaziel 11 hours ago#35
Baha05 posted...
How many times has Reggie lied versus Patcher giving false predictions?


You enjoy arguing semantics, here's one; what's the difference between a prediction and a lie? Would you say they carry the same consequences? @Baha05
Baha05 11 hours ago#36
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
You enjoy arguing semantics, here's one; what's the difference between a prediction and a lie? Would you say they carry the same consequences? @Baha05


Hey I'm not the one that made this topic that was YOU.
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_Dog 11 hours ago#37
@AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.

</fake news>
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ThaPrinceRaziel 11 hours ago#38
Starwars4J posted...
Seriously you'll nitpick a few things but ignore how he told the truth about Metroid.



Starwars4J posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Mother

What did he lie about regarding mother?


Isn't ignoring all the examples he gave, but focusing on just this one, nitpicking?
Starwars4J 11 hours ago#39
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
Starwars4J posted...
Seriously you'll nitpick a few things but ignore how he told the truth about Metroid.



Starwars4J posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Mother

What did he lie about regarding mother?


Isn't ignoring all the examples he gave, but focusing on just this one, nitpicking?

Nope. It's asking a legit question about a point he brought up. If I dismissed everything else he said as being wrong based on this instance of him being wrong it would be nitpicking. I'm sure you can understand the difference.
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ThaPrinceRaziel 11 hours ago#40
Baha05 posted...
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
You enjoy arguing semantics, here's one; what's the difference between a prediction and a lie? Would you say they carry the same consequences? @Baha05


Hey I'm not the one that made this topic that was YOU.


The topic is about why pacther's predictions are worse than Reggie's lies to this fan base. Isn't a lie worse than a wrong prediction?



Starwars4J posted...
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
Starwars4J posted...
Seriously you'll nitpick a few things but ignore how he told the truth about Metroid.



@Starwars4J posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Mother

What did he lie about regarding mother?


Isn't ignoring all the examples he gave, but focusing on just this one, nitpicking?

Nope. It's asking a legit question about a point he brought up. If I dismissed everything else he said as being wrong based on this instance of him being wrong it would be nitpicking. I'm sure you can understand the difference.


But you never commented on the other examples, if the majority of the examples are lies, couldn't you draw more of a consensus from those, than the one he told the truth about?
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Baha05 11 hours ago#41
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
The topic is about why pacther's predictions are worse than Reggie's lies to this fan base. Isn't a lie worse than a wrong prediction?

Which again the question comes into play, how many times has Reggie legit lied?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
doutforharambe 11 hours ago#42
Baha05 posted...
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
The topic is about why pacther's predictions are worse than Reggie's lies to this fan base. Isn't a lie worse than a wrong prediction?

Which again the question comes into play, how many times has Reggie legit lied?

The better question is, why does prince raziel care? He's a known sony shill. What nintendo does or doesnt do seems to be of high concern to him.
Playing dat Persona 5!
ArsenicSteel 10 hours ago#43
AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.


Which doesn't explain the contempt Pacther gets from gamers(not just the gamers you limit/label as Nintendo fans). It has nothing to do with one fan base despite your need to rile up one side. 

The only reason the topic brings up Nintendo is because TC doesn't want it marked as OT and moved to general discussion.
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Starwars4J 10 hours ago#44
ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
But you never commented on the other examples, if the majority of the examples are lies, couldn't you draw more of a consensus from those, than the one he told the truth about?

Did you want me to? Besides, most of what he said Reggie "lied" about aren't actual lies, they're subjective (such as the comment above about Reggie "lying" about understanding the fanbase).

Regardless, all it takes is one truth to disable his stance of "Reggie has lied every time he has spoken".
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Starwars4J 10 hours ago#45
ArsenicSteel posted...
AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.


Which doesn't explain the contempt Pacther gets from gamers(not just the gamers you limit/label as Nintendo fans). It has nothing to do with one fan base despite your need to rile up one side. 

The only reason the topic brings up Nintendo is because TC doesn't want it marked as OT and moved to general discussion.

I think people hate Pachter because he's terrible at literally his only job in life
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_Dog 10 hours ago#46
@slyman19 posted...
Starwars4J posted...
slyman19 posted...
Baha05 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

Sometimes right for sure but how often is that the case? Plus again how often does Reggie lie?

How often does Reggie make a statement? That's your answer.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-offers-metroid-mother-3-fans-a-glimmer-of/1100-6446941/

So...

"...we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want." Massive lie right there.

Wow, no wonder Nintendo lost E3... OH WAIT
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yahya_no_1 10 hours ago#47
PS4Warrior posted...
Reggie is special he works for Nintendo. What did Reggie lie about?



Support for the WiiU, Zelda BotW being exclusive to the WiiU, them not slowly dropping support for the 3DS, every console they release stating it will have a massive 3rd party support the list goes on


AstralFrost posted...
If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.



This, SOOO THIS!, they deny the truth like the plague, as long as they here Nintendo is sorry for the short supply of any product and claim they didn't expect it to sell this good, they will try to do a better job next time (for like the 1k times), all Nitnendo fanboys take it as a good thing, every god damn time
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StickMen1090 10 hours ago#48
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

i mean you guys are comparing reggie making a couple statements to patcher making a couple dozen statements.
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slyman19 10 hours ago#49
StickMen1090 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

i mean you guys are comparing reggie making a couple statements to patcher making a couple dozen statements.

Uh, no. Reggie has been with Nintendo since 2004 or so, right? 13 years of lies.
StickMen1090 10 hours ago#50
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
slyman19 posted...
StickMen1090 posted...
i take it you dont follow Patcher

Patcher is at least some times right. Reggie is just one big liar.

i mean you guys are comparing reggie making a couple statements to patcher making a couple dozen statements.

Uh, no. Reggie has been with Nintendo since 2004 or so, right? 13 years of lies.

so instead of actually listing things you think he lied about you just give the amount of time he has been with Nintendo? talk about side stepping
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    slyman19 17 hours ago#51
    StickMen1090 posted...
    so instead of actually listing things you think he lied about you just give the amount of time he has been with Nintendo? talk about side stepping

    Look at any of his interviews. They are littered with lies. He is a terrible f***ing person.
    Spookyryu 17 hours ago#52
    GUYS, geez, how you bite in this bait? this is a troll post and Asstral is princeRaziel, so please flag it and move on
    _Dog 17 hours ago#53
    yahya_no_1 posted...
    PS4Warrior posted...
    Reggie is special he works for Nintendo. What did Reggie lie about?



    Support for the WiiU, Zelda BotW being exclusive to the WiiU, them not slowly dropping support for the 3DS, every console they release stating it will have a massive 3rd party support the list goes on


    AstralFrost posted...
    If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.



    This, SOOO THIS!, they deny the truth like the plague, as long as they here Nintendo is sorry for the short supply of any product and claim they didn't expect it to sell this good, they will try to do a better job next time (for like the 1k times), all Nitnendo fanboys take it as a good thing, every god damn time

    Anyone feel like teaching this guy a lesson?
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    StickMen1090 17 hours ago#54
    slyman19 posted...
    StickMen1090 posted...
    so instead of actually listing things you think he lied about you just give the amount of time he has been with Nintendo? talk about side stepping

    Look at any of his interviews. They are littered with lies. He is a terrible f***ing person.

    now instead of backing up your points you are telling others to prove your point for you? talk about laziness.
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    Terra-enforcer 17 hours ago#55
    @Baha05 posted...
    Soo what are the lies in the second link then/ Also yeah the stance is pretty bad when you claim to have five examples and not even pointing out what they are on top of brushing aside Patcher's mistakes

    "there are no friend codes"

    "The Switch coming out does not mean that the 3DS will go away anytime soon"

    Saying that the Wii U is not dead yet.

    Actually three in that single source alone (that was just from a quick skim there could be even more), so seems like there's a lot more than just five, so thanks for helping to prove my point even further. 

    And what do you mean me not pointing them out? I provided the sources and the lies I am literally referring to. It's outright stupid to say that your indolence is a reason to discredit my argument. Outright laughable even. The sources are there, and the video is there. What the hell did you provide? Yeah, nothing. So even if I didn't provide jack s*** I would still have done more than you have.

    Also no one brushed aside Patcher. I asked for sources, and you provided nothing. The burden of proof is on you to discredit Patcher as I did Reggie. Furthermore, I myself said that Patcher has been wrong, and I've bashed him numerous occasions for his track record, but my entire point has been that even someone as murky as him is better than Reggie.
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    Terra-enforcer 17 hours ago#56
    @StickMen1090 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    StickMen1090 posted...
    so instead of actually listing things you think he lied about you just give the amount of time he has been with Nintendo? talk about side stepping

    Look at any of his interviews. They are littered with lies. He is a terrible f***ing person.

    now instead of backing up your points you are telling others to prove your point for you? talk about laziness.

    Just look at the three links I provided itt. Those most definitely suffice and are only a fraction of his utter lies.
    Starwars4J 17 hours ago#57
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    "The Switch coming out does not mean that the 3DS will go away anytime soon"

    Here we are half a year later and the 3DS is still getting a lot of great games so...bad example on your part?
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    SSjYagami 17 hours ago#58
    Reggie won't put in good word for us about Mother 3, he can fall off a cliff on fire for all I care.
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    Terra-enforcer 17 hours ago#59
    Starwars4J posted...
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    "The Switch coming out does not mean that the 3DS will go away anytime soon"

    Here we are half a year later and the 3DS is still getting a lot of great games so...bad example on your part?

    The 3DS is having miiverse shut down, various other online applications are shutting down as well, and 2018 is looking pretty barren for 3DS as of now. Most of the "lots o" games we've gotten recently have had minimal effort in comparison to past games, from reusing most assets, releasing remakes, or being smaller eshop titles.

    None of that sounds like a good thing, so far from being a bad example if you don't delude yourself into shilling to a video game company.

    Also dat nitpick tho. Key indicator someone doesn't have an argument worth a crap so they have to focus on incredibly minute problems with the opposing side's position, although here you didn't even do a good job of doing that much lol
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    ThaPrinceRaziel 17 hours ago#60
    Spookyryu posted...
    GUYS, geez, how you bite in this bait? this is a troll post and Asstral is princeRaziel, so please flag it and move on


    Nope. Can't remember who I'm an alt of but it wasn't Astral. Don't think it was Linetrix either...
    StickMen1090 17 hours ago#61
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    @StickMen1090 posted...
    slyman19 posted...
    StickMen1090 posted...
    so instead of actually listing things you think he lied about you just give the amount of time he has been with Nintendo? talk about side stepping

    Look at any of his interviews. They are littered with lies. He is a terrible f***ing person.

    now instead of backing up your points you are telling others to prove your point for you? talk about laziness.

    Just look at the three links I provided itt. Those most definitely suffice and are only a fraction of his utter lies.

    I am asking how a couple of links you provide somehow proves the point that Patcher doesn't get dozens of predictions wrong. since apparently its 2:1 ratio of Reggie lying to patcher apparent.
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    Starwars4J 17 hours ago#62
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    The 3DS is having miiverse shut down

    Miiverse in general is shutting down. That's a pretty hard stretch to say "The 3DS is dying because of the Switch and so Miiverse is shutting down"

    various other online applications are shutting down as well, and 2018 is looking pretty barren for 3DS as of now. Most of the "lots o" games we've gotten recently have had minimal effort in comparison to past games, from reusing most assets, releasing remakes, or being smaller eshop titles.

    None of that sounds like a good thing, so far from being a bad example if you don't delude yourself into shilling to a video game company.

    The 3DS is getting another Kirby game this year, it's getting Fire Emblem Warriors, Pokemon US/UM, Dragon Quest XI, Metroid: Samus Returns, etc. It's doing pretty well for a system that's what, 6 years old? You do realize that no system lasts forever, right? Or will you blame it's eventual retirement on the Switch no matter what? Reggie was clear that the Switch isn't ending the 3DS, and it hasn't. That doesn't mean the same thing as the 3DS will continue to be supported for all time. Come now, use your head
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    StickMen1090 17 hours ago#63
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    Starwars4J posted...
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    "The Switch coming out does not mean that the 3DS will go away anytime soon"

    Here we are half a year later and the 3DS is still getting a lot of great games so...bad example on your part?

    The 3DS is having miiverse shut down, various other online applications are shutting down as well, and 2018 is looking pretty barren for 3DS as of now. Most of the "lots o" games we've gotten recently have had minimal effort in comparison to past games, from reusing most assets, releasing remakes, or being smaller eshop titles.

    None of that sounds like a good thing, so far from being a bad example if you don't delude yourself into shilling to a video game company.

    Also dat nitpick tho. Key indicator someone doesn't have an argument worth a crap so they have to focus on incredibly minute problems with the opposing side's position, although here you didn't even do a good job of doing that much lol

    their direct is focusing on Switch and 3DS games.
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    Baha05 17 hours ago#64
    So out of those three example only two can be seen as a lie.

    Also look about a page or two back I linked articles pointing out Patcher being wrong
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#65
    Baha05 posted...
    So out of those three example only two can be seen as a lie.

    Also look about a page or two back I linked articles pointing out Patcher being wrong

    Only two? You didn't even read all of my sources and somehow you get this from that? If you want to troll, there are better ways of doing it.

    It's like you're not even intending on reading my evidence, so why the hell do you think anyone should give you the time of day? This amount of sheer laziness isn't even worth humoring. You drones are something else.
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    Baha05 16 hours ago#66
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    Only two? You didn't even read all of my sources and somehow you get this from that? If you want to troll, there are better ways of doing it.

    It's like you're not even intending on reading my evidence, so why the hell do you think anyone should give you the time of day? This amount of sheer laziness and idiocy isn't even worth humoring. You drones are something else.

    From the little summery post you gave you listed three examples. But in reality only two matter given the fact that the 3dS is still getting games.

    And the fact of the matter is just linking sources is not the same as actually pointing out the lies, unless those same sources are calling out those exact lies
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    Arcanine2009 16 hours ago#67
    Pachter in the past at least has just said a lot of bold things just to get a reaction, which annoys the hell out of people sometimes. Also, dude has no inside info whatsoever from the industry. Any gamer could make the predictions he makes, and he actually gets paid for it. Ultimately he's just doing it for the investors.

    Reggie doesn't have Iwata's charm with his used care salesman pitch, but ultimately he's just the face and PR for Nintendo of America. He doesn't have any actual power on games(maybe he has some sway for the western market in terms of support) release. I can't really blame him when he can't say anything that would contradict HQ in Japan. He's very loyal to them, and will say anything to make Nintendo look good in a good light, but nothing like blatantly lying, or else he'd be in deep s***.
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    SMT_Masochist 16 hours ago#68
    Reggie might as well be a ventriloquist's dummy. You don't get mad at the dummy. You get mad at the one pulling the strings and imitating the voice. 

    Pachter...he's part weather man, part fortune teller. Like weather men, he looks at radar or the sky and sees clouds. Based off of that, like a fortune teller he makes a very Vague and (un)educated guess.
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#69
    Baha05 posted...
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    Only two? You didn't even read all of my sources and somehow you get this from that? If you want to troll, there are better ways of doing it.

    It's like you're not even intending on reading my evidence, so why the hell do you think anyone should give you the time of day? This amount of sheer laziness and idiocy isn't even worth humoring. You drones are something else.

    From the little summery post you gave you listed three examples. But in reality only two matter given the fact that the 3dS is still getting games.

    And the fact of the matter is just linking sources is not the same as actually pointing out the lies, unless those same sources are calling out those exact lies

    1. Those were only two of the multiple lies I pointed to, and yet you acted as if that was all I had.

    EDIT: Literally the first link is doing exactly what you said by "calling out those exact lies" so this really exposed the sheer laziness and ignorance of your posting. Holy s*** man, you have to be trolling me, right?

    2. As I said above, he said "anytime soon." Barely half a year later, the 3DS has had online features cut out from multiple games, it's getting miiverse shut down, and it has a mere one or two games announced for next year. That's all pretty bad and not at all as Reggie implied.

    3. Again, your indolence doesn't mean anything, and does nothing to disprove my argument. Something is mad wrong with you if you're so lazy you can't even click a damn link. I fear for how you live irl if you have this many issues.
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#70
    SMT_Masochist posted...
    Reggie might as well be a ventriloquist's dummy. You don't get mad at the dummy. You get mad at the one pulling the strings and imitating the voice. 

    Pachter...he's part weather man, part fortune teller. Like weather men, he looks at radar or the sky and sees clouds. Based off of that, like a fortune teller he makes a very Vague and (un)educated guess.

    That's the thing. Like I said itt, it's not his fault. He's the PR guy, so it's not like he has much of an option. His job is to pacify fans and tell people what they want to hear in order to satisfy them or hype them up.

    My only problem are the drones acting as if he's some angel sent from a Nintendo god and has never lied before when that could not be further from the truth.
    Baha05 16 hours ago#71
    Whatever you say man
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#72
    @Baha05 posted...
    Whatever you say man

    Yup, I was right. Trolled again. I really need to stop taking your s***ty bait. Every time it ends up with me making arguments that make a point or disprove what you say and you always end up saying this same s***. Grow up, and get some damn help. This is bad even for you. THIS is why people s*** on you for being a drone. It's not even a smart discussion, this is just plain dumb.
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    Starwars4J 16 hours ago#73
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    My only problem are the drones acting as if he's some angel sent from a Nintendo god and has never lied before when that could not be further from the truth.

    That's some pretty warped thinking you have there. I don't think anyone has said, or even implied, what you're saying. It's like you try to warp those you don't like as being worse than they are.
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    Baha05 16 hours ago#74
    No you were not trolled. Please learn what the word means. And ironic theat you are telling me to grow up when you are the one throwing a huge hissy fit, over what? Me questioning the lies being made?
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#75
    Baha05 posted...
    No you were not trolled. Please learn what the word means. And ironic theat you are telling me to grow up when you are the one throwing a huge hissy fit, over what? Me questioning the lies being made?

    I'm not throwing a "hissy fit" at all, so no, not really ironic. And I know what trolling means. You made an ignorant remark, I countered, then every time I made a legitimate argument you proceeded to ignore it or said it didn't matter for "reasons" seemingly to illicit a reaction. Then as opposed to making your own intelligent response, you proceeded to make more rather stupid one liners then ended with a "whatever bro" like some child. Definitely seems like it qualifies as trolling to me.

    So either you trolled me, or you're very lazy and not all that bright.
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    Baha05 16 hours ago#76
    Except I didn't make an ignorant remark. I legit asked what has he lied about. You linked three pages, one of which is a Gamefaqs link which more likely doesn't even source any of those statement, the other ones don't even call out the exact lies. It's called asking for details on said lies. It's a legit question. Then you get all pissy and started to hurl out insults.
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#77
    @Baha05 posted...
    Except I didn't make an ignorant remark. I legit asked what has he lied about. You linked three pages, one of which is a Gamefaqs link which more likely doesn't even source any of those statement, the other ones don't even call out the exact lies. It's called asking for details on said lies. It's a legit question. Then you get all pissy and started to hurl out insults.

    Again, I'm not pissy. You can't just ignore someone's argument then think you made even a remotely intelligent response by just ignoring them. Hence the trolling.

    And the only "insult" I called you was lazy, which is 100% accurate based on your behavior itt. You indicated incredibly amounts of indolence by being too lazy to make a single click (probably because you knew it was evidence against you).
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    Baha05 16 hours ago#78
    I'm not ignoring you argument I am asking for specifics points in which Reggie has lied. A big difference, and given how much you are relying on insults yeah that makes you look incredibly pissy.

    And no lazy isn't the only insult, don't even try to make up that sort of bulls*** up
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#79
    Baha05 posted...
    I'm not ignoring you argument I am asking for specifics points in which Reggie has lied. A big difference, and given how much you are relying on insults yeah that makes you look incredibly pissy.

    And no lazy isn't the only insult, don't even try to make up that sort of bulls*** up

    By saying I only had "three examples," or "two statements," that is a direct lie on your part and can be described in no other way than ignoring my argument so don't even try that s***.

    And once more, it's pretty silly to assume I'm "pissy" based on what has been said itt. Quote these supposed insults, since I even went back through this thread and that's all I saw.
    Baha05 16 hours ago#80
    Terra-enforcer posted...
    By saying I only had "three examples," or "two statements," that is a direct lie on your part and can be described in no other way than ignoring my argument so don't even try that s***.

    And once more, it's pretty silly to assume I'm "pissy" based on what has been said itt. Quote these supposed insults, since I even went back through this thread and that's all I saw.

    Not really you provided three links and when you brought up three lies from one of the article only two of them could be seen as lies as the 3DS is still around and still getting games.

    and not all that bright.

    These were also some of the insults you used. Along with calling me a drone
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#81
    @Baha05

    First off, one is "some" now? And that one is indicative of me being "incredibly pissy"? That's one hell of a stretch.

    Second, I said you're either trolling or not that bright. I never directly called you that, I only stated that is characteristic of you if you're seriously trying to say you weren't trolling me and legitimately thought it was intelligent for your counterargument to lie and ignore what I said. Which is indeed, would not be very smart, but I've since concluded that you likely were just trolling me. 

    So again, even that s*** isn't even a direct insult or indicative of me being "incredibly pissy." So you can piss off with that bs.
    Baha05 16 hours ago#82
    Dude the fact that you are so hung up on these insults is WHY you come off as pissy. Even indirect insults are still insults regardless. And exactly how is asking question now a matter of not being bright. 


    Again you want to use those examples then fine but wouldn't pointing out the exact lies make your points far stronger then just linking pages that don't really elaborate on what the lie is and what isn't?
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    Terra-enforcer 16 hours ago#83
    Baha05 posted...
    Dude the fact that you are so hung up on these insults is WHY you come off as pissy. Even indirect insults are still insults regardless. And exactly how is asking question now a matter of not being bright. 

    Now the backtrack. Figures. I'm not hung up on the insults. Not sure what in the world would make you come to that conclusion. All I said is that they weren't as you described it, and now you're grasping for straws to make an argument for yourself, when in reality you were wrong yet again. It's not very "bright" if you think you can make a competent argument against someone whilst ignoring a majority of their argument. This s*** isn't quantum physics. It should be blatantly obvious why that is the case. It's YOU who is caught up on this s*** as you keep bringing it up as for why I am apparently pissy or something.

    Baha05 posted...
    pointing out the exact lies make your points far stronger then just linking pages

    You asked for proof, I provided the sources to support my claims.
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    Baha05 16 hours ago#84
    Again whatever you say man. And I asked for specifics not the actual sources so big difference.
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    Terra-enforcer 15 hours ago#85
    Baha05 posted...
    Again whatever you say man. And I asked for specifics not the actual sources so big difference.

    Terra-enforcer posted...
    Now the backtrack. Figures.

    And now you see why I called you a troll. Can't even actually respond like an adult, and posts like this make your prior posts seem like s***ty bait. This kind of behavior is pretty sad if you aren't just some teenager. Can't even bother admitting when your lies have been exposed numerous times, then you change subjects and run away once you try accusing someone of something and getting proven wrong yet again. Pathetic.
    Baha05 15 hours ago#86
    And there goes the pissy attitude yet again. Also the misuse of the word trolling. If it's trolling to ask for specifics on when a person lied or other things then this world is f***ed.
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    Terra-enforcer 15 hours ago#87
    @Baha05 posted...
    And there goes the pissy attitude yet again. Also the misuse of the word trolling. If it's trolling to ask for specifics on when a person lied or other things then this world is f***ed.

    Nothing about that is indicative of me being "pissy." Just me being real with you based on your posting. Your weird obsession with that word and using it out of context like this is just silly. Especially when you tried explaining it the first time, then I proved your ass wrong and now we're here with you backtracking after being wrong again ha. It's more of me being pitiful of you than me being "pissy."

    I also explained the trolling a number of times, so don't even try that bs. Not misused in the slightest. Don't make me have to quote myself from just a few minutes ago to prove you wrong once more. You can't try that s*** when I explained my logic behind the usage a plethora of times now.
    Baha05 15 hours ago#88
    Again whatever you say, we are done here. If you are going to just sit there b****ing and moaning be my guest. You claim that I don't respond like an adult yet here you are appearing to be a big ol hypocrite.
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    Terra-enforcer 15 hours ago#89
    Baha05 posted...
    Again whatever you say, we are done here. If you are going to just sit there b****ing and moaning be my guest. You claim that I don't respond like an adult yet here you are appearing to be a big ol hypocrite.

    And you claim to be an adult and to be "done" with this, and yet you come back every two seconds to get the last word in (as always) and to make up some kind of excuse, or lie or do some other petty s***. I'm not a hypocrite for merely exposing your bs as I have. Continue backtracking and making excuses. You sure look like an intelligent adult for doing as much. /s

    inb4 more last words, more excuses, more sidestepping, more unsubstantiated comments after being proved wrong again and again, etc
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    ThaPrinceRaziel 15 hours ago#90
    Baha05 posted...
    So out of those three example only two can be seen as a lie.

    Also look about a page or two back I linked articles pointing out Patcher being wrong


    Okay, so we have examples you agree are lies. I'll ask again @Baha05, what do you dislike most; a wrong prediction or a lie.
    Baha05 15 hours ago#91
    ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
    Okay, so we have examples you agree are lies. I'll ask again @Baha05, what do you dislike most; a wrong prediction or a lie.


    Both are pretty bad though in this case I'd more say Patcher is in the wrong given he likes to take pot shots at people.
    "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
    NeoMonk 15 hours ago#92
    Pachter has crapped all over every console in one way or another so ofcourse people get pissed at him...
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    ThaPrinceRaziel 15 hours ago#93
    Baha05 posted...
    ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
    Okay, so we have examples you agree are lies. I'll ask again @Baha05, what do you dislike most; a wrong prediction or a lie.


    Both are pretty bad though in this case I'd more say Patcher is in the wrong given he likes to take pot shots at people.


    Great, so lies are ok as long as you seem nice and sincere with them. Predictions are bad if you're not nice and sincere with them.. Is that the secret behind Nintendo's success, being sincere with their bull****? Is "Please, understand" actually a pacifier for fans?
    Baha05 15 hours ago#94
    ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
    Great, so lies are ok as long as you seem nice and sincere with them. Predictions are bad if you're not nice and sincere with them.. Is that the secret behind Nintendo's success, being sincere with their bull****? Is "Please, understand" actually a pacifier for fans?


    Or you know lies are all going to vary in what the severity of them are. But when it comes to specifics people take more issue with Patcher because of how he makes it a habit to give out potshots.
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    mikey_205 15 hours ago#95
    Being the face of a big andold fashioned company sometimes means justifying things you personally think are stupid for PR friendly reasons or you're going to get fired pretty quick.

    Pachter has no such ties so his opinions are his own and often rude.

    You may dislike both bit their positions are nothing alike.
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    demesjos2 14 hours ago#96
    Reggie has charm even when he is lying. Patcher just comes off as a dick. It's just that diehard Nintendo fans in general have a stronger dislike of him because he said mean things about the Wii-U.
    ThaPrinceRaziel 13 hours ago#97
    @Baha05 posted...
    ThaPrinceRaziel posted...
    Great, so lies are ok as long as you seem nice and sincere with them. Predictions are bad if you're not nice and sincere with them.. Is that the secret behind Nintendo's success, being sincere with their bull****? Is "Please, understand" actually a pacifier for fans?


    Or you know lies are all going to vary in what the severity of them are. But when it comes to specifics people take more issue with Patcher because of how he makes it a habit to give out potshots.


    I always thought lies we're black or white, it's either the truth or a lie, whereas predictions vary. But you seem to take issue with Pacther pot shots more than his predictions (completely off the topic at hand), well what are these insults you mentioned that are worse than being lied to by someone who knows better?
    yahya_no_1 12 hours ago#98
    _Dog posted...
    yahya_no_1 posted...
    PS4Warrior posted...
    Reggie is special he works for Nintendo. What did Reggie lie about?



    Support for the WiiU, Zelda BotW being exclusive to the WiiU, them not slowly dropping support for the 3DS, every console they release stating it will have a massive 3rd party support the list goes on


    AstralFrost posted...
    If history has shown anything its that Nintendo fans want reassurance, not the truth.



    This, SOOO THIS!, they deny the truth like the plague, as long as they here Nintendo is sorry for the short supply of any product and claim they didn't expect it to sell this good, they will try to do a better job next time (for like the 1k times), all Nitnendo fanboys take it as a good thing, every god damn time

    Anyone feel like teaching this guy a lesson?


    Only lesson here you need to work on, is people not to ignore you lol.
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    master_m11 11 hours ago#99
    Yomigaeru posted...
    Reggie is essentially the face of Nintendo outside of Japan, yet he has little say in what the home office does. He's the one that has to try and justify stupid practices like not including an AC adapter with the New 3DS, or having to use a smartphone app for voice chat in Splatoon 2. At worst, if he's lying about something...he's doing it to keep his job.

    Michael Pachter is an industry analyst that is notorious for being wrong. Beyond that, he always frequently provides commentary on industry happenings (such as calling gamers "whiny" with regard to the controversy over Mass Effect 3's endings). I think he even called Iwata "the late and not so great" last year (which is wholly unprofessional, regardless of your opinion of the man).

    While people may feel Reggie lies to them, I doubt he's ever outright insulted them like Pachter has done on a few occasions.
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