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Thursday, September 7, 2017

Do people ignore the fact that the Switch is a handheld?

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raulgarcia2 2 days ago#1
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output

Would it get widespread praise for being the next-gen handheld?
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ponyseizures 2 days ago#2
No because you can't fit it in your pocket.
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#3
raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output


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optimusmart 2 days ago#4
Here we go again.....



Let me just go and detach my controllers from my vita



ponyseizures posted...
No because you can't fit it in your pocket


Think ur referring to a pocketheld?
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G4meHawk 2 days ago#5
I think it slip ppls minds very often. The portability is the main reason im picking up stuff like xenoverse 2 and skyrim. I honestly dont think Nintendo realize the value potential of the switch when they skim over its hybrid aspect to push it as a home console.
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.

But they wouldn't be able to get that $300 price to stick with a pure handheld. They already saw the failure with the 3DS and Vita trying to go for $250, even if it was a fair price at the time(for the Vita at least). The home console aspect makes it several times more appealing at that price point.
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#7
supremeblaster posted...
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.


more like triple

looking at the 3DS, it couldn't be much stronger than the Wii, based on Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, which wasn't much stronger than a Gamecube
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Portability... I never understood why people are so obsessed with this. When I leave my house, it's to usually go shopping, or to the bank. The only reason I ever even brought my 3DS out of my house was to connect with Streetpasses and get playcoins for steps. If I had a Switch it would sit in my living room hooked up to a tv at all times anyway.
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NicknameMy 2 days ago#9
xoftheuniverse posted...
Portability... I never understood why people are so obsessed with this. When I leave my house, it's to usually go shopping, or to the bank. The only reason I ever even brought my 3DS out of my house was to connect with Streetpasses and get playcoins for steps. If I had a Switch it would sit in my living room hooked up to a tv at all times anyway.


Maybe on the way to your work (train), trips, in your pause, on your couch, in your bed, if someone else wants to use the TV, for going on the toilet...

The way you sound like it is like you don't need a smartphone outside the house as well.
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Endgame 2 days ago#10
Yes, because Nintendo says Switch is their next home console and because it's too big by handheld standards.

They're replacing 3DS with a proper handheld eventually. They need a delivery system that'll let them get away with lower budget games. It and Switch will co-exist in peace.

The way you sound like it is like you don't need a smartphone outside the house as well.

You don't need a "smart"phone period.
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Even my handhelds I kept home and just played at a table to support my hands.
Now with the Switch. I'm finding that I get pretty severe hand cramps in my right hand when I try playing it in handheld mode. The way you have to hold it or maybe the thinness of it or hell maybe it's just my age. Whatever the reason this one is sitting as a home console in dock mode permanently. The square controller thing works just fine and has an okay grip to it. But most importantly it doesn't hurt.
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#12
Endgame posted...
it's too big by handheld standards.


"That thing was too big to be called a handheld. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. It was more like a large hunk of console."
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DuranmanX4 posted...
Endgame posted...
it's too big by handheld standards.


"That thing was too big to be called a handheld. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. It was more like a large hunk of console."


I appreciate that reference.
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NicknameMy 2 days ago#14
So, it is too big for a handheld, but should have longer battery life, bigger screen size, higher resolution and more powerful hardware. Oh, and it should be cheaper, as well.
Rolfin 2 days ago#15
I think there's plenty of folks that would care about the Switch as a powerful portable if it was nothing else. I know I wouldn't care though. If the Switch didn't have TV out capabilities, disconnected controllers and splitscreen multiplayer, I probably wouldn't have bought it.

I personally thing the Switch sucks as a traditional handheld. It's wide, too thin, has "meh" battery life at best, and is too big in general to be good at being a traditional portable system. But then again, I also think the 3DS is only fairly good as a portable... The DS was and probably always will be my favorite dedicated portable, because it embraced the things that make for a good handheld.

That's my 2 cents
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Rolfin 2 days ago#16
DuranmanX4 posted...
Endgame posted...
it's too big by handheld standards.


"That thing was too big to be called a handheld. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. It was more like a large hunk of console."


You just received lots of cookie points
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Endgame posted...
it's too big by handheld standards.


It's like 1 inch bigger than the Vita lmao.

It's also several times smaller than iPads, which are still considered portable, or 'handhelds'.
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neji721 2 days ago#18
ponyseizures posted...
No because you can't fit it in your pocket.

Fits in my pockets. Not jeans, but my shorts that i wear 80% of the time. Heck just walked to a party over the weekend and had it in my pocket the entire time until we busted out fibbage.
optimusmart 2 days ago#19
neji721 posted...
ponyseizures posted...
No because you can't fit it in your pocket.

Fits in my pockets. Not jeans, but my shorts that i wear 80% of the time. Heck just walked to a party over the weekend and had it in my pocket the entire time until we busted out fibbage.


Rooftop party??

Are you shooting the next commercial?
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Comyx 2 days ago#20
DuranmanX4 posted...
supremeblaster posted...
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.


more like triple

looking at the 3DS, it couldn't be much stronger than the Wii, based on Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, which wasn't much stronger than a Gamecube


Is it actually stronger? How did Xenoblade run? And you have to consider it was at 240p.
Comyx posted...
DuranmanX4 posted...
supremeblaster posted...
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.


more like triple

looking at the 3DS, it couldn't be much stronger than the Wii, based on Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, which wasn't much stronger than a Gamecube


Is it actually stronger? How did Xenoblade run? And you have to consider it was at 240p.


On the New 3DS it ran fine, it couldn't run outright on the normal one. But yeah considering it's 240p it's actual power must've been pretty low.
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fon1988 2 days ago#22
I have never understood why people say a product has to fit in your pocket to be portable. Tablets and laptops don't come close to fitting in my pocket and yet I call them portable. I bought a lovely little case for my Switch and I have taken it all over the place, it's amazing to have a full fledged HD console that is easy to take on the go.
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Portability is great and very easy and fun with the way nintendo does things. 3 of my friends have a switch. So we can all very easily play together and have our own screens. 

My brother has every amiibo. So i can easily take my switch with me and have all of his unlocks. I have friends who have some too so i can do the same when i go over there. 

The fact that i can play on my tv is a huge plus for me. People should look at that as if your 3ds could also play on the tv. I would LOVE to play most games i have on the 3ds on the tv. Its a revolutionary step in portability because you have the option to also play your games on the tv with normal controls. I cant stress enough how many 3ds ports id take on the switch just so i can play them on the tv.
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It's a home console that can be taken on the go. It's a home console first
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raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output

Would it get widespread praise for being the next-gen handheld?

Super Mario Odyssey and BOTW being limited to that screen size would be the most depressing thing in gaming since Mighty Number 9.
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#26
LimboStudios posted...
raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output

Would it get widespread praise for being the next-gen handheld?

Super Mario Odyssey and BOTW being limited to that screen size would be the most depressing thing in gaming since Mighty Number 9.


That's not even that long ago or that depressing
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LimboStudios posted...
raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output

Would it get widespread praise for being the next-gen handheld?

Super Mario Odyssey and BOTW being limited to that screen size would be the most depressing thing in gaming since Mighty Number 9.

This

Portability is overrated for big and ambitious games. If i want quick and small when im out, i have my phone games. Just like the rest of the world. My switch is docked 99.9% of the time
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mikey_205 2 days ago#28
Switch is very good for holidays though or just being able to play when wifes on main TV. Portable for holidays and around house or on couch is actually a pretty big thing. Love being able to play on TV or on couch or in bed or on holiday/weekends away. I agree i dont play out of house when travelling but i havent done that on any handheld since the GBA lol.
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xoftheuniverse posted...
Portability... I never understood why people are so obsessed with this. When I leave my house, it's to usually go shopping, or to the bank. The only reason I ever even brought my 3DS out of my house was to connect with Streetpasses and get playcoins for steps. If I had a Switch it would sit in my living room hooked up to a tv at all times anyway.

Some people take the bus/train to work/school, like to travel, enjoy playing games without playing on a TV.
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It is ONLY a handheld to me. If I want to play on my TV, ill do it on a stronger console like the ps4 and x1. I have never hooked my switch up to the TV yet, and never will. I have actual consoles to do that, and the switch is a portable device for me, to eventually replace the 3DS which is on life support. They dont even release eshop games on that thing anymore lol
11clock 2 days ago#31
I almost strictly use it as a handheld, and I mostly play it at home. Yes I can play it on my TV if I want to, but I much prefer the comfort of my bed over the couch. And I just like taking it with me around the house.

I own a PC but if the same game on PC is available on the Switch, I prioritize the Switch version. There have been many times when I was like, "I want to play this game on my PC, but I am tired and just want to be in bed, so I will play on my Switch instead."

People are really underestimating the power of portability. It has more uses than just outside the house.

If you are buying the Switch without caring about its portability, why are you buying it in the first place? That's the whole point of the system!
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Nintendo415 2 days ago#32
DuranmanX4 posted...
raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output


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supremeblaster posted...
Comyx posted...
DuranmanX4 posted...
supremeblaster posted...
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.


more like triple

looking at the 3DS, it couldn't be much stronger than the Wii, based on Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, which wasn't much stronger than a Gamecube


Is it actually stronger? How did Xenoblade run? And you have to consider it was at 240p.


On the New 3DS it ran fine, it couldn't run outright on the normal one. But yeah considering it's 240p it's actual power must've been pretty low.


Even the New 3DS isn't "stronger" than the Wii. It had more RAM, but that was it. It runs Xenoblade slightly worse. But the resolution is really small anyway.
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Payback85 2 days ago#34
Why is it so important to people that the Switch be considered a "handheld"? Why are they so eager for it to replace the GameBoy/DS line?
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#35
Payback85 posted...
Why is it so important to people that the Switch be considered a "handheld"? Why are they so eager for it to replace the GameBoy/DS line?


The Switch is portable, so what else should we be calling it
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ponyseizures posted...
No because you can't fit it in your pocket.

You can if you remove the joycons and depending on your pocket.
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Payback85 posted...
Why is it so important to people that the Switch be considered a "handheld"? Why are they so eager for it to replace the GameBoy/DS line?

So we can have more 3DS titles come to Switch?
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dunnyrega 2 days ago#38
raulgarcia2 posted...
Imagine if Switch didn't have an HDMI output

Would it get widespread praise for being the next-gen handheld?

I would need a link of the source from the creators, developers of the systems and the Ceo of the main HQ of the nation of origin. if not then you are just talking out of yourectum like all other trolls here.
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dunnyrega 2 days ago#39
optimusmart posted...
Here we go again.....



Let me just go and detach my controllers from my vita



ponyseizures posted...
No because you can't fit it in your pocket


Think ur referring to a pocketheld?

lets just research and see where was the idea created of a portable gaming devise, and look and the interviews with the creators of the first one early 80s and see what they say. hmm it says a system that you can put in the POCKET of your suit and play while on a break at the office. strange I thought you created them and invented the definition by your standards.
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quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.
dunnyrega 2 days ago#40
supremeblaster posted...
Probably. Power-wise it's like a double generation leap from 3DS. It's pretty amazing.

powerwise is a generation ahead of the ps3 specs.
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quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.
anon_fire 2 days ago#41
Do people continue to ignore the fact that the Switch is both a Handheld and Home Console? There's a kickstand for a reason.
dunnyrega 2 days ago#42
Rolfin posted...
I think there's plenty of folks that would care about the Switch as a powerful portable if it was nothing else. I know I wouldn't care though. If the Switch didn't have TV out capabilities, disconnected controllers and splitscreen multiplayer, I probably wouldn't have bought it.
I personally thing the Switch sucks as a traditional handheld. It's wide, too thin, has "meh" battery life at best, and is too big in general to be good at being a traditional portable system. But then again, I also think the 3DS is only fairly good as a portable... The DS was and probably always will be my favorite dedicated portable, because it embraced the things that make for a good handheld.

That's my 2 cents

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quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.
Those $60 priced games sure disagree with you.

dunnyrega posted...
powerwise is a generation ahead of the ps3 specs.

It's an eighth gen console, but doesn't have eighth gen power considering it's weaker than the xb1.
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dunnyrega 2 days ago#44
HellsController posted...
Those $60 priced games sure disagree with you.

dunnyrega posted...
powerwise is a generation ahead of the ps3 specs.

It's an eighth gen console, but doesn't have eighth gen power considering it's weaker than the xb1.

and?
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quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.
dunnyrega posted...
I can compare horse power on a Nissan skyline with a Ferrari T both same year and same generation. guess what the comparison is going to tell me? 2 men born in the same year are not exactly the same either. stop comparing stuff and buy what you like and vote with your wallet period.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. XB1 is the bare minimum for a generation ahead of PS3 specs. Switch isn't as powerful as it is, so it's not a gen ahead in terms of specs. That's all there is to it.
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anon_fire 2 days ago#46
HellsController posted...
dunnyrega posted...
I can compare horse power on a Nissan skyline with a Ferrari T both same year and same generation. guess what the comparison is going to tell me? 2 men born in the same year are not exactly the same either. stop comparing stuff and buy what you like and vote with your wallet period.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. XB1 is the bare minimum for a generation ahead of PS3 specs. Switch isn't as powerful as it is, so it's not a gen ahead in terms of specs. That's all there is to it.

Console generations have never been about which console has the best hardware. It's never been the case and it sure won't be the case now.
raulgarcia2 1 day ago#47
HellsController posted...
dunnyrega posted...
I can compare horse power on a Nissan skyline with a Ferrari T both same year and same generation. guess what the comparison is going to tell me? 2 men born in the same year are not exactly the same either. stop comparing stuff and buy what you like and vote with your wallet period.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. XB1 is the bare minimum for a generation ahead of PS3 specs. Switch isn't as powerful as it is, so it's not a gen ahead in terms of specs. That's all there is to it.


One is a strictly inferior PC

One is a handheld.

Pick one
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anon_fire 1 day ago#48
Ugh. How long must this stupid argument go on?
MarioBro88 1 day ago#49
It's a hybrid.

Get the f*** over it.
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11clock 1 day ago#50
MarioBro88 posted...
It's a hybrid.

Get the f*** over it.


It is advertised as such, but the Switch is literally a gaming tablet that comes bundled with an HDMI dock. Heck it is not even the first of its kind, since devices such as the NVIDIA Shield tablet do the exact same thing.

What makes this product superior is the attachable controllers.
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    dunnyrega 1 day ago#51
    11clock posted...
    MarioBro88 posted...
    It's a hybrid.

    Get the f*** over it.


    It is advertised as such, but the Switch is literally a gaming tablet that comes bundled with an HDMI dock. Heck it is not even the first of its kind, since devices such as the NVIDIA Shield tablet do the exact same thing.

    What makes this product superior is the attachable controllers.

    ok so keep those and go troll the Nvidia boards.
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    quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.
    forte 1 day ago#52
    ponyseizures posted...
    No because you can't fit it in your pocket.

    The Sega Game Gear called....it said to tell you you haven't a clue what you're on about. Oh wait...I think the TurboExpress and original gameboy are on the other line....
    anon_fire posted...
    Do people continue to ignore the fact that the Switch is both a Handheld and Home Console? There's a kickstand for a reason.

    Heh, only one mode is considered "handheld". The others are TV/docked mode, and tabletop mode. It's definitely a hybrid. Can't really do local multiplayer on the same screen using handheld mode too.
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    Lelouch71 17 hours ago#54
    anon_fire posted...
    Do people continue to ignore the fact that the Switch is both a Handheld and Home Console? There's a kickstand for a reason.


    Only the ones that seems too stubborn to accept that the system is a hybrid for whatever their narrative may be. Whether one want to call it a portable console or a handheld that could be play on the TV it is still a hybrid system no matter how they want to slice it.
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    BobVance 17 hours ago#55
    Lol at Ninty fans. Do you guys call smartphones with HDMI ports hybrids too?
    Darmik 17 hours ago#56
    It serves/functions as a hybrid. But at the end of the day the thing is built with mobile hardware. It's still a portable mobile device.
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    StickMen1090 16 hours ago#57
    BobVance posted...
    Lol at Ninty fans. Do you guys call smartphones with HDMI ports hybrids too?

    are they equip with games that are on consoles? I mean this is not a difficult concept people. its a hybrid. it plays console games on the go. a handheld plays handheld games on the go. 

    use your brains people.
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    BobVance 8 hours ago#58
    StickMen1090 posted...
    BobVance posted...
    Lol at Ninty fans. Do you guys call smartphones with HDMI ports hybrids too?

    are they equip with games that are on consoles? I mean this is not a difficult concept people. its a hybrid. it plays console games on the go. a handheld plays handheld games on the go. 

    use your brains people.


    Smartphones have a lot of games on consoles. Injustice 2, SFIV, etc.
    characterz3ro 8 hours ago#59
    G4meHawk posted...
    I think it slip ppls minds very often. The portability is the main reason im picking up stuff like xenoverse 2 and skyrim. I honestly dont think Nintendo realize the value potential of the switch when they skim over its hybrid aspect to push it as a home console.

    If it wasnt a home console it wouldn't be nearly as successful as it is now. Handheld users are the minority, don't kid yourself.
    As a pure handheld I don't think it would be doing as well. At the same time that is the whole point of the switch, that it is a portable home console. Undocking and taking it with you when traveling, as well as just moving to the couch to play because other people want to watch tv, was the whole draw of it for me.

    It would be like pretending the 3ds didn't have 2 screens.
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    radiobutton 8 hours ago#61
    It's a portable or home console when it needs to. It's the same when arguing about the Switch.
    Fauch 7 hours ago#62
    I'd say power-wise it's pretty much what a modern handheld should be like in 2017. It's not amazing, but it's still much more than what I expected from Nintendo.
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    JaimeAstin 7 hours ago#63
    I rarely every dock my switch. I bought I for "mobile" first. I hate Nintendo, but I think they are on to something. I just do not have time to sit in front of a TV. I love my console and PC games, but finding the time to play is hard. 

    With the switch, I can play from the couch and watch tv. I take my switch with me sometimes.... To work or on a day trip. The rare times my wife drives, I might get the chance to play. Most of the time I play after all the work and (good stuff) is done before I crash for the night.

    I have my priorities and gaming is at the bottom of the list. But the switch has won top billing for the spot over my 3 xbox ones and other games.
    Baha05 7 hours ago#64
    Portable hybird is a more correct term
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    ROB45 7 hours ago#65
    I don't think so. The price of the hardware and software are much too high for it to succeed as a dedicated handheld.
    characterz3ro 7 hours ago#66
    JaimeAstin posted...
    I rarely every dock my switch. I bought I for "mobile" first. I hate Nintendo, but I think they are on to something. I just do not have time to sit in front of a TV. I love my console and PC games, but finding the time to play is hard. 

    With the switch, I can play from the couch and watch tv. I take my switch with me sometimes.... To work or on a day trip. The rare times my wife drives, I might get the chance to play. Most of the time I play after all the work and (good stuff) is done before I crash for the night.

    I have my priorities and gaming is at the bottom of the list. But the switch has won top billing for the spot over my 3 xbox ones and other games.


    Does not compute.
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