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http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-ceo-told-nintendo-that-switch-wouldnt-be-successful-before-it-launched/
http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-ceo-on-what-switch-means-for-pokemon-not-ruling-out-accessories-more/ “I told Nintendo that Switch wouldn’t be a success before it went on sale, because I thought that in the age of the smartphone, no one would carry out a game console. It’s obvious I was wrong. I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware. Playing style can be flexible if the software is attractive enough. Currently, it’s popular among the early adopters, but there needs to be one more step to attract a wider audience. I see more potential in Switch, but one shouldn’t overestimate its potential."
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sandstormflygon posted...
Even one Nintendo own didn't have high hopes for the thing. Boy was he proven wrong
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sandstormflygon posted...
Even one Nintendo own didn't have high hopes for the thing. It's okay, people are allowed to change their minds on things. |
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The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go.
Seems like that logic is rapidly being debunked, as the portability definitely seems to be the killer feature for a large number of Switch owners.
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Ralizah posted...
The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go. Maybe cuz of what happened to the Vita but that's mainly on Sony's incompetence tbh.
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So can we now stop with the assumption that Nintendo was doing some artificial shortage for Switch? What more do you need when both Nintendo and the Pokemon CEO initially thought it would not sell well?
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Ralizah posted...
The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go. I don't think that's the specific reason the Switch is doing well, though. The Vita offered "console like experiences on the go" and it was a commercial flop. The difference here is two-fold, I think: first off, it isn't just console gaming on the go, but also straight up console gaming on the TV if you want it to be. The versatility of the Switch is what makes it appealing, not just handheld gaming. Secondly, Switch was already showing promise from the get-go in the software department. It's no third party supported behemoth, but the first party support was already looking good right out of the gate and has only continued to look better as time has gone on. And third party is looking better as well. I get what you were trying to say, but I don't think any logic was "debunked" in the success of the Switch.
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He will likely be shown right in the end.
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SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end. Doutbul consodering whtvwebare getting within the first two years and the fact that new things get announced
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It's the same story since most nintendo home console only fans were attacking Switch for not being a pure powerful home console before.
Before Switch was announced a lot of people on this very board was predicting a powerful pure home console only to change their tune when they saw Switch getting high sales. (And it's not even surprising because nintendo handhelds always had high sales compared to nintendo home consoles to begin with)
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Baha05 posted...
SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. He probably thinks since Nintendo had a misstep with the Wii U (The Wii's success went to their head), they would never be able to make another successful console again, pathetic.
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DiscostewSM posted...
So can we now stop with the assumption that Nintendo was doing some artificial shortage for Switch? What more do you need when both Nintendo and the Pokemon CEO initially thought it would not sell well? Because Nintendo never lies eh?
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Xenis posted...
Baha05 posted...SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. Wii u was a fluke If they had made it clearer it would have outsold gamecube and xbox All wii u proves is you make a successors name clear or people will not buy it
TalesRevenant - Switch hasn't even broken Wii U numbers yet. 26:08:17
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Shouldn't it be obvious that Nintendo can no longer compete with both Sony and Microsoft in the power department? Also how do some of you expect such a small device to fit as much or more power than the Playstation 4 that would probably cost £600+?
Though I do agree that they need to brush up on their online services to todays standards. Anyways as a gamer its good to see Nintendo doing well with the Nintendo Switch after their disaster with the Wii U. Same with Sony after they had trouble with the PS3 and now they're in the lead, and hopefully Microsoft will sort themselves out on their next gen console.
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Titanfail2017 posted...
Xenis posted...Baha05 posted...SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. Do you really think the Wii U would have sold better if it was call something like the Wii 2 |
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@SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end. Would you like to make a bet with me on your prediction? I bet against it. If the Switch becomes a commercial failure then I'll close my account and give you my Switch or something of equal worth. Otherwise, if Ishihara ends up wrong and the Switch remains a success, then you must close your account and hand me your Switch or something of equivalent value. Do we have a deal, or will you take your word back?
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Shiiiru posted...
Ralizah posted...The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go. the vita board here is a mess
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@Sailor_Goon posted...
DiscostewSM posted...So can we now stop with the assumption that Nintendo was doing some artificial shortage for Switch? What more do you need when both Nintendo and the Pokemon CEO initially thought it would not sell well? Not here, that's certain. @sandstormflygon posted... Titanfail2017 posted...Xenis posted...Baha05 posted...SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. Yes.
Corrin was a mistake.
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To be fair, this is the dude in charge of the Pokemon Company. Basically the folks that get s***ty mobile games made.
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He'll be proven right. Give it a year and this thing won't be relevant. They're created false hype by holding back production.
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Funcoland posted...
To be fair, this is the dude in charge of the Pokemon Company. Basically the folks that get s***ty mobile games made. also the folks that get angry whenver someone in a pokemon tournament uses a handle referencing pokemon they did it a few times during pokken tournaments where they had to change players names because it referenced pokemon
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He has a great point. The success was unexpected in part because smartphones totally collapsed the dedicated handheld field.
The fact that it functions as a home console is appealing to a huge demographic and vice versa. |
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BobVance posted...
He'll be proven right. Give it a year and this thing won't be relevant. They're created false hype by holding back production. I keep hearing this comment if its in either media create or NPD threads, the claim Nintendo is creating false hype. Do any of you actually have proof to back up your claim? If not, then its nothing but made up bs desperately trying to downplay a competitors system success.
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DearRosalina posted...
He has a great point. The success was unexpected in part because smartphones totally collapsed the dedicated handheld field. and smartphones gave us a candy crush game show on CBS....just why are peole falling for this sham that cellphone games are the future? the day you see angry birds get a full fledged tournament with backings from major companies is the day i throw in the towel
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@BobVance posted...
He'll be proven right. Give it a year and this thing won't be relevant. They're created false hype by holding back production. I'm gonna bet against you too. If the Switch becomes a commercial failure then I'll close my account and give you my Switch or something of equal worth. Otherwise, if Ishihara ends up wrong and the Switch remains a success, then you must close your account and hand me your Switch or something of equivalent value. Do we have a deal, or will you take your word back?
Corrin was a mistake.
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Shiiiru posted...
I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware explains why the Gamecube failed
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DuranmanX4 posted...
Shiiiru posted...I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware Depsite the GameCube packing more power than the Playstation 2, its failure was due to Its marketing and brand image unfortunately. Not only that but the Playstation 2 at the time was also the cheapest DVD player on the market.
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I'm kind of baffled as to why the guy in charge of an IP that is so iconic in handheld did not have faith in a handheld device. If he of all people thinks that mobile is the future then that probably explains where Pokemon Go came from.
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kinggravy posted...
I'm kind of baffled as to why the guy in charge of an IP that is so iconic in handheld did not have faith in a handheld device. If he of all people thinks that mobile is the future then that probably explains where Pokemon Go came from. I think its pretty nice hearing genuine thoughts about the system before release instead of "System is great" PR none sense.
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I think this is BS. His comments feel like publicity more than anything. I don't believe he actually said/thought this.
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DearRosalina posted...
He has a great point. The success was unexpected in part because smartphones totally collapsed the dedicated handheld field. It being a hybrid is the smartest thing Nintendo could had done given they will never be able to compete against Sony and MS directly console wise. Smart phones been becoming a nuisance to dedicated handhelds for years now. It being a hybrid gives it a competitive advantage over their competition.
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DreTam2000 posted...
I think this is BS. His comments feel like publicity more than anything. I don't believe he actually said/thought this. "it's PR, doesn't matter"
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Shiiiru posted...
I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware. This statement is just wrong though. The Wii U got a ton of quality games. Meanwhile, the Switch had nothing outside of a delayed Wii U port for months after it launched. Its second major game was a slightly enhanced Wii U port that came out almost 2 months after the console launched. It's not like the Switch was better in other ways either. The Wii U got VC very quickly and and full BC with the Wii library. It also had a browser, Netflix support and some other features at launch. Can't quite say the same for the Switch, which has no BC, still doesn't have any VC, doesn't have a browser, does not support any streaming apps and will require consumers to pay for online. Not to mention the extremely clunky voice chat setup and forcing people to use a smartphone app to play multiplayer with friends or to message them.
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He must have been drinking that night
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nonexistinghero posted...
Shiiiru posted...I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware. While I'm not in disagreement with your statements about the Wii U and what it offered compared to the Switch...that argument does kind of help support the quoted statement that you said is just wrong. If the system itself doesn't have a lot of features and is quite basic in the other aspects, as you said, (media consumption, BC/VC, everyday browsing and streaming, clunky voice chat, etc) then it's leaning on game library (software), hardware design, and marketing. Not that I'm saying that narrows it down to his statement being completely accurate, but it definitely supports it more than saying all the negative things the Switch has going for it. Most people would say the game's are of very high quality, regardless of being ports and deluxe versions...to most people, if it's new to them, it doesn't matter about other aspects, which makes his statement right: the absolute quality (ignoring any other aspect) leads sales. If it's a 2yr old game that was ok back then, but has enhancements, additions, and improvements to make it a great game now, it would seem he's kind of right.
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Baha05 posted...
sandstormflygon posted...Even one Nintendo own didn't have high hopes for the thing. I'd hate to be that chick, but it's not even been year.
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Listen to the guy who thought success lies in pikachu lingerie and suing tiny fan events.
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NightMareBunny posted...
they did it a few times during pokken tournaments where they had to change players names because it referenced pokemon wait what? so if i put my name as HackerHaunter in the game i cannot use it in a tournament and i have to change it? wtf |
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There are negativity trolls even within Nintendo's walls
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Software can help, but I don't think that's it at all...
Nintendo handhelds have always greatly outperformed their same-gen Nintendo consoles. Smartphones might have hurt some, but the 3DS is currently the 10th best selling gaming device of all time. Making it hybrid greatly opened up their player base. Lots of console players say it's mainly a console and lots of handheld players say it's mainly a handheld. If they don't make a new dedicated handheld when the 3DS starts dying out, they'll also be able to spend much more time developing new games.
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IIRolfin posted...
Ralizah posted...The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go. The vita was bait and switch when it came to its "console like experience on the go". It had a few extremely, extremely watered down port versions of some console games. Mortal kombat, and border lands dont hold up well to the visuals of the ps3 and xbox 360. That plus the sales of the system (i admit that the vita would have sold better if it wasnt for the memory cards). Is probably why the vita never got bioshock. At least with the switch. We get way more decent ports of consoles games. Fifa, nba 2k 18. We are getting the new wwe game. And skyrim remastered runs as well as it does on ps4. So already there is a huge difference in comparing the vita and the switch when it comes to a true console like experience on a handheld. and we are still so early in the consoles launch.
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SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end. Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
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TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. Please name a handheld priced at $300 that has been a success. Whatever your comparison is supposed to be isn't really a good one.
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I feel like that last line is the key. The Wii U and 3DS didn't do as well as their predecessors because they were released in the age of smartphones, thus losing the casual audience's attention. Yet they heavily relied on online, and weren't advanced enough to catch a strong hardcore following. The Switch can change that with a solid library that works well online and offline.
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Ralizah posted...
The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise, I think. I remember having conversations with people online who swore up and down that most people don't want console experiences on the go. The whole "on the go thing" never striked me as literally bringing it to play on the bus, on the train, at the park and on the road as seen in commercials because let's be real who really does that? My on the go experience with it is the ability to easily carry it to a friends house or even at work for a few hours of play. Its just convenient like that not a lot of wires and very light. And of course the ability to use it in handheld mode. Overall its a good gimmick when you experience it for yourself. When my co workers took hold of it they didn't know it would be that good.
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TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. It isn't like Pokemon is the reason for the success lol. It is the price and accessibility. |
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DearRosalina posted...
TheRushDawg posted...SSjYagami posted...He will likely be shown right in the end. You're living in denial if you dont think Pokemon is Nintendo's handheld seller. Sun and Moon's announcement gave a great boost to 3DS and 2DS sales.
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Sailor Goon posted...DiscostewSM posted...
So can we now stop with the assumption that Nintendo was doing some artificial shortage for Switch? What more do you need when both Nintendo and the Pokemon CEO initially thought it would not sell well?
Because Nintendo never lies eh?
lol do we have to pull all the tv adds from PS vita advertising as a powerful home console graphics and experience on the go and those call of duty ads where ppl felt they were in the middle of the battlefield with it? lets see how that turned out for sony?PSN: Akiradeviruman
quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.Shiiiru posted...“I told Nintendo that Switch wouldn’t be a success before it went on sale, because I thought that in the age of the smartphone, no one would carry out a game console. It’s obvious I was wrong. I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware. Playing style can be flexible if the software is attractive enough. Currently, it’s popular among the early adopters, but there needs to be one more step to attract a wider audience. I see more potential in Switch, but one shouldn’t overestimate its potential."
so basically he is saying "wait till we release pokemon LOL then it will REALLY take off"
but no, he is 100% right though, dont overestimate this thing, just make high quality games and let it be"Besides the multiplatforms and exclusives, what else was there on PS4?" - Karmic Dragon2003
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqY6lLXxBAUq-7KSPbDYP5wAndros-2K7 posted...DearRosalina posted...
TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
It isn't like Pokemon is the reason for the success lol. It is the price and accessibility.
You're living in denial if you dont think Pokemon is Nintendo's handheld seller. Sun and Moon's announcement gave a great boost to 3DS and 2DS sales.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales
Not as big of a boost as people make it out to give.
Both years when Pokemon released there was still a decline on YOY sales.
The pricecut with Mario Kart gave 3DS the biggest boost.DearRosalina posted...Andros-2K7 posted...
DearRosalina posted...
TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
It isn't like Pokemon is the reason for the success lol. It is the price and accessibility.
You're living in denial if you dont think Pokemon is Nintendo's handheld seller. Sun and Moon's announcement gave a great boost to 3DS and 2DS sales.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales
Not as big of a boost as people make it out to give.
Both years when Pokemon released there was still a decline on YOY sales.
The pricecut with Mario Kart gave 3DS the biggest boost.
Wikipedia. What a reliable source. Its still a boost regardless and there are people who buy Nintendo Handheld just for Pokemon only so that says alot about the franchise. Even Pokemon Go influenced 3DS purchases but that a whole other story.Favourite JRPG's: The Last Story, Xenoblade Chronicles, Arc Rise Fantasia.
N3DS FC: 2208 9375 0944 / Nintendo Switch FC: SW-0594-6453-0420lol hes talking about GOOD QUALITY software to sell systems. pokemon has never been good quality, it have been catchy and entertaining but never good quality and all lifelike and graphically big.PSN: Akiradeviruman
quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.Andros-2K7 posted...DearRosalina posted...
Andros-2K7 posted...
DearRosalina posted...
TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
It isn't like Pokemon is the reason for the success lol. It is the price and accessibility.
You're living in denial if you dont think Pokemon is Nintendo's handheld seller. Sun and Moon's announcement gave a great boost to 3DS and 2DS sales.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales
Not as big of a boost as people make it out to give.
Both years when Pokemon released there was still a decline on YOY sales.
The pricecut with Mario Kart gave 3DS the biggest boost.
Wikipedia. What a reliable source. Its still a boost regardless and there are people who buy Nintendo Handheld just for Pokemon only so that says alot about the franchise. Even Pokemon Go influenced 3DS purchases but that a whole other story.
Lol Wikipedia has the data from Nintendo follow the reference links.
It kepts sale from crashing but it didn't bring sales up from previous years.Andros-2K7 posted...DearRosalina posted...
Andros-2K7 posted...
DearRosalina posted...
TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
It isn't like Pokemon is the reason for the success lol. It is the price and accessibility.
You're living in denial if you dont think Pokemon is Nintendo's handheld seller. Sun and Moon's announcement gave a great boost to 3DS and 2DS sales.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_sales
Not as big of a boost as people make it out to give.
Both years when Pokemon released there was still a decline on YOY sales.
The pricecut with Mario Kart gave 3DS the biggest boost.
Wikipedia. What a reliable source. Its still a boost regardless and there are people who buy Nintendo Handheld just for Pokemon only so that says alot about the franchise. Even Pokemon Go influenced 3DS purchases but that a whole other story.
lolwikipedia, the site that states that.
Monster Hunter portable aka MH Freedom is a mainline game
MHP2 aka MHF2 is a mainline game
MHP2ndG aka MHUnite is a mainline game
BUT.....
MHP3rd aka not localized is a spin off due to the fact that there was no localization.PSN: Akiradeviruman
quickposter posted... Numbers indicate nothing.Well, given the recent quality of Pokemon they would say thatSonic 3 and Knuckles is still and always will be the best game of all time.
The Cat is always right. Sonic Mania G.O.A.T of 2017.DearRosalina posted...reference links
Very, very, very few people follow the Wiki Reference Links, even though they almost always lead to the point of origin. Wiki may seem bad, but when you realize it's literally a hub of centralized data so that no one has to struggle to look around through years of excessive information, it becomes evident how great that site is.i7-4930k, EVGA X79 Classified, CM V8 GTS, CM Stormtrooper, 16GB HyperX Sav. 1600MHz, EVGA GTX 960 2G, AMD R7 240 SSD, WD Black 1T, CM V750.
My GPU is trash. :((edited 1 day ago)quoteDuranmanX4 posted...Shiiiru posted...
I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware
explains why the Gamecube failed
Lmao, GameCube has the best software of any Nintendo system3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814
Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123LuigiFan835 posted...Lmao, GameCube has the best software of any Nintendo system
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My GPU is trash. :(sandstormflygon posted...Titanfail2017 posted...
Xenis posted...
Baha05 posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Doutbul consodering whtvwebare getting within the first two years and the fact that new things get announced
He probably thinks since Nintendo had a misstep with the Wii U (The Wii's success went to their head), they would never be able to make another successful console again, pathetic.
Wii u was a fluke
If they had made it clearer it would have outsold gamecube and xbox
All wii u proves is you make a successors name clear or people will not buy it
Do you really think the Wii U would have sold better if it was call something like the Wii 2
It would have
Wii was a strong brand and would have outsold the vita
A systems opening success is entirely attributed to how the manufacturer shows their hand
That is why ps3 and xbox one flip flopped when they came outTalesRevenant - Switch hasn't even broken Wii U numbers yet. 26:08:17LuigiFan835 posted...DuranmanX4 posted...
Shiiiru posted...
I came to realize the key to a successful game is quite simple: software with absolute quality leads sales of hardware
explains why the Gamecube failed
Lmao, GameCube has the best software of any Nintendo system
This is completely wrong. It can't be true because:
1. Metroid Prime 3 is the best Metroid.
2. Wii U has Pikmin 3, Woolly World, Smash Bros 5, Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Breath of the Wild etc.
The only games Gamecube had that were better than Wii U is Metroid (because Wii U didn't get one), Star Fox Adventures and Mario Sunshine.
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FC: SW-5949-9158-5770@Mitsukiba posted...TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
Please name a handheld priced at $300 that has been a success. Whatever your comparison is supposed to be isn't really a good one.
The Nintendo Switch.
Now please name a handheld priced at $300 that has been a failure. Whatever your comparison is supposed to be isn't really a good one.Corrin was a mistake.
Not changing sig until Ash wins a Pokemon league, becomes a Pokemon Master and/or ends his journey. Started 12/14/2016_Dog posted...@Mitsukiba posted...
TheRushDawg posted...
SSjYagami posted...
He will likely be shown right in the end.
Please name a single handheld with a mainline Pokemon that was not a huge sales success.
Please name a handheld priced at $300 that has been a success. Whatever your comparison is supposed to be isn't really a good one.
The Nintendo Switch.
Now please name a handheld priced at $300 that has been a failure. Whatever your comparison is supposed to be isn't really a good one.
Less than a year and it's a success? That's what's wrong with your ilk. :,D You know what? The Vita Launched with two separate Price Points, one did not catch on and the other failed either way. Let's discuss its success by years end.i7-4930k, EVGA X79 Classified, CM V8 GTS, CM Stormtrooper, 16GB HyperX Sav. 1600MHz, EVGA GTX 960 2G, AMD R7 240 SSD, WD Black 1T, CM V750.
My GPU is trash. :((edited 1 day ago)quoteHe's partially right.
If it had been a pure handheld and not a hybrid, or hybrid like, it probably would have failed.
I think he's also partially right in that the Switch will be irrelevant in two years or so. Three questions come from that though. One, the same thing kind of happens with Smart Phones, 2 years and many people are upgrading, so does that really matter. The second question is though, will people take the Wii/DS line beyond a third iteration, since really, the Switch is just Wii/DS 3. And will Nintendo be able to come up with anything relevant beyond the Switch that isn't part of the Wii/DS line.
Also, to the people who are saying that Wikipedia is a bad source, there have been studies done that show that it is around as accurate as standard encyclopedias.
Also, I think he really underestimates the appeal of the Joy Cons when only talking about software.SSBB Friend Code: 3823-8247-5632 N3DS Friend Code: 0189-8871-1995(edited 1 day ago)quoteMozzezz posted...He's partially right.
If it had been a pure handheld and not a hybrid, or hybrid like, it probably would have failed.
I think he's also partially right in that the Switch will be irrelevant in two years or so. Three questions come from that though. One, the same thing kind of happens with Smart Phones, 2 years and many people are upgrading, so does that really matter. The second question is though, will people take the Wii/DS line beyond a third iteration, since really, the Switch is just Wii/DS 3. And will Nintendo be able to come up with anything relevant beyond the Switch that isn't part of the Wii/DS line.
Also, to the people who are saying that Wikipedia is a bad source, there have been studies done that show that it is around as accurate as standard encyclopedias.
Also, I think he really underestimates the appeal of the Joy Cons when only talking about software.
Can I have your children...? But seriously, that's a pretty acute interpretation of his words.i7-4930k, EVGA X79 Classified, CM V8 GTS, CM Stormtrooper, 16GB HyperX Sav. 1600MHz, EVGA GTX 960 2G, AMD R7 240 SSD, WD Black 1T, CM V750.
My GPU is trash. :(Baha05 posted...sandstormflygon posted...
Even one Nintendo own didn't have high hopes for the thing.
Boy was he proven wrong
Exactly!Resident Evil 2 is the best Resident evil! -Leon>Chris -Claire>Jill -Ada>Rebecca
-Hunk>BarryThe Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for my right to fight you to the death. -Stephen ColbertBobVance posted...He'll be proven right. Give it a year and this thing won't be relevant. They're created false hype by holding back production.
He's right about software drives hardware sales.
It's the only thing that has been proven consistent with how this industry is going.
If you bring the software people are interested in, they are more willing to buy your hardware."I want to eat you for dinner."Endgame posted...The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.
How can it be performing as well as a Wii U 2 if a Wii U 2 never existed?"When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.It's cool he changed his mind. I know it's mostly PR speak, but it sounds like the potential is there to really explore everything the Switch can offer to the franchise.DiscostewSM posted...Endgame posted...
The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.
How can it be performing as well as a Wii U 2 if a Wii U 2 never existed?
Well I think the point he was making was figurative.i7-4930k, EVGA X79 Classified, CM V8 GTS, CM Stormtrooper, 16GB HyperX Sav. 1600MHz, EVGA GTX 960 2G, AMD R7 240 SSD, WD Black 1T, CM V750.
My GPU is trash. :(Mitsukiba posted...Mozzezz posted...
He's partially right.
If it had been a pure handheld and not a hybrid, or hybrid like, it probably would have failed.
I think he's also partially right in that the Switch will be irrelevant in two years or so. Three questions come from that though. One, the same thing kind of happens with Smart Phones, 2 years and many people are upgrading, so does that really matter. The second question is though, will people take the Wii/DS line beyond a third iteration, since really, the Switch is just Wii/DS 3. And will Nintendo be able to come up with anything relevant beyond the Switch that isn't part of the Wii/DS line.
Also, to the people who are saying that Wikipedia is a bad source, there have been studies done that show that it is around as accurate as standard encyclopedias.
Also, I think he really underestimates the appeal of the Joy Cons when only talking about software.
Can I have your children...? But seriously, that's a pretty acute interpretation of his words.
Thanks.
Also, sure you can have my children, so long as you raise them right, raise them to be gamers lol.SSBB Friend Code: 3823-8247-5632 N3DS Friend Code: 0189-8871-1995Mitsukiba posted...DiscostewSM posted...
Endgame posted...
The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.
How can it be performing as well as a Wii U 2 if a Wii U 2 never existed?
Well I think the point he was making was figurative.
I would have never guessed with the way he's been posting all this time."When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.Endgame posted...The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.
LMAO
What did I say to you after splatoon 2 came out?TalesRevenant - Switch hasn't even broken Wii U numbers yet. 26:08:17Endgame posted...The Switch's success is taking pretty much everybody by surprise
No, only the lengths everyone is willing to go to paint the narrative that Switch is a success just because it sold higher than Wii U in the same timeframe.
Switch isn't a success until Odyssey wins it the holiday season. Until then, it's been performing as well as a Wii U 2 with more Splatoon within the first few months would be expected to perform.
Tell me why.
NOTHING parallels Wii U.
Wii U 6 months in
It immediately tried to aim at a fanbase that had no intention of buying it. The audience that Wii U would have drawn didn't know it was a new console. They thought it was a tablet controller. Contrary to what you lot were saying it didn't sell out day 1 and it definitely didn't sell out on pre-orders alone. It sold out in Japan when the Mario Kart/Splatoon bundle came out and that was because Nintendo halted production.
6 months on the only notable third party game was Rayman. Everything else had been cancelled or simply ignored it. Indies only jumped back in later because they didn't panic like big companies did.
Nothing going on with Switch currently mirrors this. You are either being ignorant or have Anosognosia without your prescription @Endgame- Boards
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