Why is needing to buy more memory a contentious issue?

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milk 1 day ago#1 Literally everything needs this since forever. Or is it just fat, 35 year old Youtubers need something to b**** about?

Adam_Ace 1 day ago#2 milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever. Or is it just fat, 35 year old Youtubers need something to b**** about? For most intelligent gamers it isn't I suspect people are harking on it though because this is a result of the Switch being viewed as a home console by some where an installed 500GB to 1TB HD is standard while anyone whom owns a handheld knows full well SD cards were always going to be the way to go for a portable console. SD cards have always been more convenient and faster with access to flash memory not to mention portable like really, who the hell is surprised by this?  Let's be real Nintendo were never going to shell out huge cash for a cutting edge HDD. PSN ID: Adamight 3DS Friend Code:0061-4706-8830

PS4always 1 day ago#3 milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever. Or is it just fat, 35 year old Youtubers need something to b**** about? Really, everything? I don't recall having to buy extra storage on my Atari 2600 ;) F2P/Freemium is a cancer on gaming.

DuranmanX4 1 day ago#4 milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever. Or is it just fat, 35 year old Youtubers need something to b**** about? so you would be content if the PS4 and XBox One only had 32GB of internal storage, and not 500GB Hell, if anything I think they should have 1TB Retail Wii U and 3DS games: https://sta.sh/02egamz324w0 Retail PS4 and VITA games: https://sta.sh/09xbomh9bc4

Linetrix 1 day ago#5 milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. "Links to GameFAQs statistics is trolling. It doesn't matter the ToU says nothing about that. I decided it is and it is upheld." - GameFAQs mod

Vesperial92 1 day ago#6 I don't mind. Why? Because I'd rather pay for whatever amount of memory I choose myself. I keep hearing people complain how Nintendo should have put more factory storage in the Switch, but jeez, this is Nintendo we're talking about- they'd overcharge much more than what it's worth. And then those same people complaining about storage would then complain about the new price. It's best the way it is. Some people just don't think FC: 0533-7923-5582 Mayor Joseph of Nutmeg Town

Gogo726 1 day ago#7 Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. I've had to.

milk (Topic Creator)1 day ago#8 Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. You did for your N64 though.

DuranmanX4 1 day ago#9 Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. I needed an extra TB for my PS4 Retail Wii U and 3DS games: https://sta.sh/02egamz324w0 Retail PS4 and VITA games: https://sta.sh/09xbomh9bc4

DuranmanX4 1 day ago#10 Vesperial92 posted... they'd overcharge much more than what it's worth but the people you're buying from are only looking to give you the best deals Retail Wii U and 3DS games: https://sta.sh/02egamz324w0 Retail PS4 and VITA games: https://sta.sh/09xbomh9bc4

PS4Warrior 1 day ago#11 Gogo726 posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. I've had to. This, external HDD FTW. PS4 - Because it was the next gen console i was the most interested in. Warrior - Because i usually pick the Warrior class in MMORPGs when i played them.

milk (Topic Creator)1 day ago#12 I'm talking about that fat idiot Reviewtech USA by the way. UGH UGH UGH UGH UGHHGGH.

Adam_Ace 1 day ago#13 DuranmanX4 posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. I needed an extra TB for my PS4 That's weird I didn't and I use my Pro for VR as well. Then again I usually delete games I'm not playing and re-download them sometime later. I guess you can't do that with Switch. PSN ID: Adamight 3DS Friend Code:0061-4706-8830

Karmic Dragon2003 1 day ago#14 Adam_Ace posted... Let's be real Nintendo were never going to shell out huge cash for a cutting edge HDD. Neither would the other companies, though. My PS4's 1000 Gb didn't last more than a month. CreviceCretin - Mario games are for little kids grow up and kill something. ^ 213 people agree that it's ignorance at its finest.

Vesperial92 1 day ago#15 Karmic Dragon2003 posted... Adam_Ace posted... Let's be real Nintendo were never going to shell out huge cash for a cutting edge HDD. Neither would the other companies, though. My PS4's 1000 Gb didn't last more than a month. I thought Switch uses SSD? Big difference FC: 0533-7923-5582 Mayor Joseph of Nutmeg Town

Solis 1 day ago#16 Vesperial92 posted... I thought Switch uses SSD? Big difference It uses eMMC and flash-based microSD cards, not an SSD. "Walking tanks must exist somewhere for there to be such attention to detail like this in mech sim." - IGN Steel Battalion review

Linetrix 1 day ago#17 Adam_Ace posted... DuranmanX4 posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. I needed an extra TB for my PS4 That's weird I didn't and I use my Pro for VR as well. Then again I usually delete games I'm not playing and re-download them sometime later. I guess you can't do that with Switch. This. I don't keep games on my system if I don't plan to play them. "Links to GameFAQs statistics is trolling. It doesn't matter the ToU says nothing about that. I decided it is and it is upheld." - GameFAQs mod

Adam_Ace 1 day ago#18 Vesperial92 posted... Karmic Dragon2003 posted... Adam_Ace posted... Let's be real Nintendo were never going to shell out huge cash for a cutting edge HDD. Neither would the other companies, though. My PS4's 1000 Gb didn't last more than a month. I thought Switch uses SSD? Big difference Good point but it goes back to my original comment. The Switch being a portable console is a natural fit for SD cards because they too are portable, cheaper, convenient and much faster as well. Earlier I gave Nintendo fans s*** for calling the Switch a handheld when it doesn't have the expedience of one being able to whip it out on a train or at school to play in short burst and shut off and put back in your pocket. However in this case it's not the Nintendo fans that are the problem, it's these f***ing hard core hipsters who thought they were going to get the full benefits of a home console rather than the medium of a portable one.  The only people this is a contentious issue for are ones who don't know exactly what the Switch is. PSN ID: Adamight 3DS Friend Code:0061-4706-8830

ikki5 1 day ago#19 Probably because the Switch is the only system that actually requires (or will require) a storage upgrade now for games. | PSN - JSampG / NNID - Sampsonj | Toadette of the MK8 Deluxe board "27,146 sales is a decrease from 26,114 sales (Paraphrase)" - Linetrix (edited 1 day ago)

milk (Topic Creator)1 day ago#20 ikki5 posted... Probably because the Switch is the only system that actually requires (or will require) a storage upgrade now for games. Yeah suppose that's true to require it out the box for some games.

king_madden 1 day ago#21 It all depends on how you play, I've played 100+ ps4 games, and have about 20 or so installed now, and never upgraded from my 500gb finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend.

freedumbdclxvi 1 day ago#22 Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. 3DS FC: 0490-7858-5102/NS FC: SW-6739-0520-9699/PSN: freedumbdclxvi

Pharsti01 1 day ago#23 Its not really. Although, there is an expectation that the system should come with a reasonable amount of it already... which it doesnt. Just like the WiiU.

ikki5 1 day ago#24 freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. | PSN - JSampG / NNID - Sampsonj | Toadette of the MK8 Deluxe board "27,146 sales is a decrease from 26,114 sales (Paraphrase)" - Linetrix

SorrySleeping 1 day ago#25 ikki5 posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. Except for the fact that some of games that launched on the system couldn't fit in the default memory card. Monster Hunter couldn't and I don't think BotW could after the System took up some space. The main problem with storage is that the Switch comes with a memory card big enough for system memory and save games, not actually buying digital. ~{Always Sleeping}~ Greek Mythology Spoilers: Achilles dies.

master_m11 1 day ago#26 ikki5 posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. Lol poor excuse. 500 gigs isn't enough either... Resident Evil 2 is the best Resident evil! -Leon>Chris -Claire>Jill -Ada>Rebecca  -Hunk>Barry

ikki5 1 day ago#27 @master_m11 posted... ikki5 posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. Lol poor excuse. 500 gigs isn't enough either... Care to explain? 500gb is enough to make it so you can play any game without having content hindered. You're not required to have all of your games installed and with 500 GB, you can still get a fair amount of games installed. I had just over 20 games before I took my external drive from my Wii U to my PS4 and that was with a few games that were between 30 and 60 GBs. @SorrySleeping posted... The main problem with storage is that the Switch comes with a memory card big enough for system memory and save games, not actually buying digital. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/09/some_retail_nintendo_switch_games_will_require_you_to_own_a_microsd_card A microSD card will be needed for certain Nintendo Switch games that contain an especially large amount of content and require additional storage for players to enjoy the full experience. If you purchase a physical version of a game that requires an additional microSD memory card, you will be able to play a portion of the game right out of the box (for example, specific levels or modes).  To enjoy the full game, downloading additional data is required. Depending on the storage requirements for each game, it may be necessary to purchase a microSD card to expand storage space. When purchasing a digital version of the game, it may also be necessary to purchase a microSD card depending on the game's storage requirements and the storage available on the consumer's Nintendo Switch console. Some Nintendo Switch games will require consumers to purchase an additional microSD memory card to play them. Our expanded storage solution offers flexibility for those who need it to play these games. People can choose exactly how much additional storage space they want to buy, depending on the number and type of games they play, and the amount of content they plan to download. The problem is though, even if you buy some physical games, you will still need to expand your storage to get all the content of the game you bought, this isn't something where it is just required for digital games. This was never the case for any other system. | PSN - JSampG / NNID - Sampsonj | Toadette of the MK8 Deluxe board "27,146 sales is a decrease from 26,114 sales (Paraphrase)" - Linetrix (edited 1 day ago)

Adam_Ace 1 day ago#28 master_m11 posted... ikki5 posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. Lol poor excuse. 500 gigs isn't enough either... Not really you're just a lazy f***er.  Of course it doesn't matter if you buy physical either which let's be real anyone who owns more than monopoly money is going to do anyway. PSN ID: Adamight 3DS Friend Code:0061-4706-8830

AkaneJones 1 day ago#29 Mostly because physical games should not be allowed to need patches that are that large. The dev is only doing it because they are too lazy to foot a bill to the larger memory card, making the reason to buy physical thrown out the window. Physical is kind of meaningless on PS3/4 & Xbone/360 with games that install to the harddrive. Yet with those games, the physicals are there to ensure you have the data to install. Not you've got a game where the data must be downloaded from the internet despite being physical invalidating even that.

Linetrix 1 day ago#30 freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Really? You play more than 10 games at the same time? "Links to GameFAQs statistics is trolling. It doesn't matter the ToU says nothing about that. I decided it is and it is upheld." - GameFAQs mod

kidwgm 1 day ago#31 Because people will complain and whine over everything these days. Currently Playing: Zelda: BotW- Switch, Splatoon- Switch GT Kid Whimsical PSN: Kidwgm23 FC SW-3576-7501-1225

freedumbdclxvi 1 day ago#32 Linetrix posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Really? You play more than 10 games at the same time? At times, yep. And the last thing I want is wasted time waiting for Arkham Knight to reinstall everything after deleting its massive install data to clear up room. 3TB external sets that up for me no issues. 3DS FC: 0490-7858-5102/NS FC: SW-6739-0520-9699/PSN: freedumbdclxvi

freedumbdclxvi 1 day ago#33 ikki5 posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Then that is your choice really. You were never required to do it. Sure, I made the choice not to have to wait for my games to reinstall all their data each time I want to play them after clearing the data. Same reason why I went with a large micro SD with Switch. And 3DS. (Well, micro with the New, SD with the old.) 3DS FC: 0490-7858-5102/NS FC: SW-6739-0520-9699/PSN: freedumbdclxvi

GaryAtEastern 1 day ago#34 it doesnt matter what ps and xbox have because their games take up A LOT more space, even physical games need to be installed.... i dont know an owner who didnt have to buy a harddrive anyway. why am i the only one that sees that? do you guys HAVE switches? i got a 125 for like 30 bucks and havent even touched it with all my digital games. SPACE IS NOT AN ISSUE. WiiU: gary_abernethy2 SWITCH: SW-0582-7378-3994 Mario Run: 3040-2794-0367

RollinHard 1 day ago#35 freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Really? You play more than 10 games at the same time? At times, yep. And the last thing I want is wasted time waiting for Arkham Knight to reinstall everything after deleting its massive install data to clear up room. 3TB external sets that up for me no issues. I typically disagree with @Linetrix, but I actually agree with him on this. I bought the Day One XBox with 500Gb and didn't need an additional harddrive because I play like 1 to max of 3 games at a time. I also have gigabit internet to allow for quickly deleting and adding a game back to my library. My friends were all about getting a 2 Tb drive so they don't have to do this, but its not necessary unless you have s*** internet. Never forget those that lost karma this day!! http://imgur.com/UrIzM4Y

bigjclassic 1 day ago#36 milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever. Or is it just fat, 35 year old Youtubers need something to b**** about? it's clickbait news, Youtubers need those hits. Like Stan and Kyle in the GH episode of South Park. PSN/steam: classicviolence Switch FC: 441991068406 3DS: 087719974865 Gamefaqs: Home of mod-alts, shills, sock puppets, and mentally ill trolls

ikki5 1 day ago#37 @GaryAtEastern posted... i got a 125 for like 30 bucks and havent even touched it with all my digital games. SPACE IS NOT AN ISSUE. Some games will require you to expand your storage even if you buy the physical cartridge. If you don't expand the storage, you will not have all the content you purchase. | PSN - JSampG / NNID - Sampsonj | Toadette of the MK8 Deluxe board "27,146 sales is a decrease from 26,114 sales (Paraphrase)" - Linetrix

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freedumbdclxvi 1 day ago#39 RollinHard posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Really? You play more than 10 games at the same time? At times, yep. And the last thing I want is wasted time waiting for Arkham Knight to reinstall everything after deleting its massive install data to clear up room. 3TB external sets that up for me no issues. I typically disagree with Linetrix, but I actually agree with him on this. I bought the Day One XBox with 500Gb and didn't need an additional harddrive because I play like 1 to max of 3 games at a time. I also have gigabit internet to allow for quickly deleting and adding a game back to my library. My friends were all about getting a 2 Tb drive so they don't have to do this, but its not necessary unless you have s*** internet. That's awesome that you have 1gb internet, but it's not available where I'm at. It's far easier to grab a 3TB and be done with it. 3DS FC: 0490-7858-5102/NS FC: SW-6739-0520-9699/PSN: freedumbdclxvi

zado19 1 day ago#40 milk posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. You did for your N64 though. are you confused? not only did those packs come with games that needed them, but wasnt that RAM, not HDD space? "Besides the multiplatforms and exclusives, what else was there on PS4?" - Karmic Dragon2003 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqY6lLXxBAUq-7KSPbDYP5w

zado19 1 day ago#41 freedumbdclxvi posted... RollinHard posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... freedumbdclxvi posted... Linetrix posted... milk posted... Literally everything needs this since forever Really? I never had to buy extra memory for my PS4. Really? I did. I don't want to have to keep deleting then reinstalling games. Really? You play more than 10 games at the same time? At times, yep. And the last thing I want is wasted time waiting for Arkham Knight to reinstall everything after deleting its massive install data to clear up room. 3TB external sets that up for me no issues. I typically disagree with Linetrix, but I actually agree with him on this. I bought the Day One XBox with 500Gb and didn't need an additional harddrive because I play like 1 to max of 3 games at a time. I also have gigabit internet to allow for quickly deleting and adding a game back to my library. My friends were all about getting a 2 Tb drive so they don't have to do this, but its not necessary unless you have s*** internet. That's awesome that you have 1gb internet, but it's not available where I'm at. It's far easier to grab a 3TB and be done with it. sure its easier, but its not required i think is the point here had this same moronic debate with Baha twice, wont do it again though "Besides the multiplatforms and exclusives, what else was there on PS4?" - Karmic Dragon2003 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqY6lLXxBAUq-7KSPbDYP5w

ZatchBell 1 day ago#42 Because Nintendo got cheap in terms of switch memory. 32 gb for a system released in 2017? The system is 300 and comes with no game and graphically is weaker than xbox one or ps4. Sega Fan for Life

monkmith 1 day ago#43 its not, but i bought the game on the promise that physical game cards would be holding the full game and not require installs. People die when they are killed. Among horse, Red Hare. Among men, Lu Bu.

Questionmarktarius 1 day ago#44 monkmith posted... its not, but i bought the game on the promise that physical game cards would be holding the full game and not require installs. Between developers being terrible at optimization, and publishers cheaping out on cart size, this was pretty much an inevitability if we want any "AAA" representation at all.

ikki5 1 day ago#45 monkmith posted... its not, but i bought the game on the promise that physical game cards would be holding the full game and not require installs. Which now, some games will require a microSD card even if it is the physical version. | PSN - JSampG / NNID - Sampsonj | Toadette of the MK8 Deluxe board "27,146 sales is a decrease from 26,114 sales (Paraphrase)" - Linetrix

SegavsCapcom 1 day ago#46 Ask every Vita owner ever. Izuku Midoriya is my spirit animal. When it comes to balance, Vanguard is Melee and Yu-Gi-Oh is Brawl.

Otterz4Life 1 day ago#47 People are freaking out because buying extra storage is REQUIRED to play the physical release. It's required because Nintendo thought it was a great idea to release a console with the same paltry amount of internal storage as the console they released in 2012. NBA2K18 will only be the first game to do this. The flood gates are open now.  PS4 and Xbox One don't REQUIRE you to buy additional memory to play any game. Everything you need (including a game) are in the box. If you are running low on memory, you have the option to uninstall a game or two and are good to go.

freedumbdclxvi 1 day ago#48 SegavsCapcom posted... Ask every Vita owner ever. The Vita had the disadvantage of needing a proprietary memory card. Switch at least allows for non proprietary micro SD cards - you don't need the specific Sandisk ones. 3DS FC: 0490-7858-5102/NS FC: SW-6739-0520-9699/PSN: freedumbdclxvi

eazyedd3ds 1 day ago#49 I get your Point but telling people that have to buy a memory card to play a game that you buy and telling you that if you don't have a memory card that half of the game is going to be blocked then that is a problem..... Ps4 I dnt have to upgrade. To play the whole game

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