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It seems like people forget Persona 5 isn't popular outside of Japan/GameFAQs.

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Smogal 23 hours ago#1
People here make it seem like it's undeniably GOTY solely because of their love of JRPGs. While it's gotten good reception and is a decent game, it seems like everyone is forgetting it's a niche title. The pacing and style of game doesn't have a chance to be GOTY, imo. 

And if you think it stands against Zelda or HZD, whether you think they're overrated or not, is some very blinding bias.
Kyto1984 23 hours ago#2
Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.
Lovecraftiangod 23 hours ago#3
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million
I think you are wrong tc
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ArsenicSteel 23 hours ago#4
People like you don't know anything and are deluded by their own opinion
It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#6
Lovecraftiangod posted...
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million
I think you are wrong tc


It shipped 1.5 million. And that's worldwide. It doesn't go against my point by any means being that we know at least 33 percent of that is from Japan. Try again.
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TrashBandicoot 23 hours ago#7
Generic high school dating sim with generic anime tropes and boring turn based combat.
OutFromUndr 23 hours ago#8
I don't think it will win many GOTY awards, but it will receive nominations.

And the game is definitely big outside of gamefaqs. Go to neogaf, reddit, or any other gaming forum with PS people.

If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.
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Lovecraftiangod 23 hours ago#9
Smogal posted...
Lovecraftiangod posted...
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million
I think you are wrong tc


It shipped 1.5 million. And that's worldwide. It doesn't go against my point by any means being that we know at least 33 percent of that is from Japan. Try again.

Ok
http://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/persona-5-sold-1-5-million-copies/ 
Good enough for you
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cookiegangster 23 hours ago#10
I honestly don't think the average gamer has heard of Persona. Wasn't the last console title back on PS2? And that was after the PS2 wasn't relevant any longer.
psnshade71 23 hours ago#11
Kyto1984 posted...
Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.

Is that US sales? There's 400 million people in the US. To put it more in perspective, if you live in a large city of 10 million people and 1.8 million of them bought something then that sounds pretty significant. However not even 25% of them bought it. So if a million people buy the next autotune hiphop album it just means most people don't like shitty music.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#12
psnshade71 posted...
Kyto1984 posted...
Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.

Is that US sales? There's 400 million people in the US. To put it more in perspective, if you live in a large city of 10 million people and 1.8 million of them bought something then that sounds pretty significant. However not even 25% of them bought it. So if a million people buy the next autotune hiphop album it just means most people don't like shitty music.


No, it isn't. That's worldwide.
blakfayt 23 hours ago#13
cookiegangster posted...
I honestly don't think the average gamer has heard of Persona. Wasn't the last console title back on PS2? And that was after the PS2 wasn't relevant any longer.

And it still sold over 1 million copies, back before CoD sold 10 million and made anything less than multi million irrelevant.
BlueSnow 23 hours ago#14
ArsenicSteel posted...
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Game has sold more than twice as much in the west than in Japan bro....and also much less popular games like Ookamni that only sold 80,000 copies have won GOTY awards.


besides awards are chosen by critics and hardcore gamers....all the big gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot say its a GOTY contender and it is popular enought among hardcore gamers


If sales determined the GOTY Winner then Pokemon and COD would win every year...Lets also remember than while they are Great games and is the most popular game franchise Grand theft auto has never been the game that gets the most GOTY awards it wins many awards but it has never been the game that wins the most.

Persona is popular enought. The only reason you can say it could not get that many awards is because this has been a great year and has too much competition
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plus1zero 23 hours ago#16
Persona is past niche at this point. It's enjoyable for all. I'm not into anime and definitely not into Japanese tropes but P5 is fantastic.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#17
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.
CrimsonGear80 23 hours ago#18
Smogal posted...
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


OMG, you are a doofus...
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nihilist212 23 hours ago#19
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#20
BlueSnow posted...
ArsenicSteel posted...
People like you don't know anything and are deluded by their own opinion


Oh, come on. I've got to know something.
psnshade71 posted...
Kyto1984 posted...
Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.

Is that US sales? There's 400 million people in the US. To put it more in perspective, if you live in a large city of 10 million people and 1.8 million of them bought something then that sounds pretty significant. However not even 25% of them bought it. So if a million people buy the next autotune hiphop album it just means most people don't like shitty music.


@psnshade71 LOL are we Americans in another planet or what? videogames are a much more globalized industry than music or movies which is why you see games from everywhere in the world for GOTY awards and every country nominates games made in any country not just in their own country
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Smogal 23 hours ago#22
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.
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nihilist212 23 hours ago#24
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.
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cookiegangster posted...
I honestly don't think the average gamer has heard of Persona. Wasn't the last console title back on PS2? And that was after the PS2 wasn't relevant any longer.


Persona is popular among gamers bro go to every gaming site and you will see the game mentioned.....It is not popular among the Masses and casual gamers like GTA, COD,Mario or Pokemon but neither are medium sized franchises like Mass effect , metroid , dark souls or For Honor
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cookiegangster 23 hours ago#26
nihilist212 posted...

The point is EVERY video game is niche.


No....do you know what niche means?
OutFromUndr 23 hours ago#27
Smogal posted...
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.

It's really just a few people doing what you're saying. Start tagging those posts and you'll notice it's the same people repeating themselves.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#28
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.


Okay. //rolls eyes. Games like Zelda, HZD, God of War, etc., are things that are mass-marketed. I'd argue that they can't be considered niche. 

But if you wanna be that specific, let's just say it's more niche than it's competitors? How about that? I'm not using "niche" to describe it as a negative thing. But if you look at it compared to games like Zelda, and you're saying that it stands a chance in universal popularity contest, then cocaine is one hell of a drug.
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blakfayt 23 hours ago#29
There are 7 billion people on Earth. Of them only 63,000,000 have bought PS4's. Therefore, PS4 is niche and cannot be the best console because not even 1/10th of the world population has bought it. That's the logic we're playing to here according to a couple of people. If a majority hasn't purchased said item it's too niche, and by that logic all of gaming is niche. Even the PS2, best selling console to date at over 155 million sales, is still niche.
nihilist212 23 hours ago#30
cookiegangster posted...
nihilist212 posted...

The point is EVERY video game is niche.


No....do you know what niche means?

If you say no then you're the one who needs a refresher. It literally means "denoting or relating to products, services, or interests that appeal to a small, specialized section of the population". 

Literally every video game ever is aimed at a small group of the population. And I don't mean gamers as a whole, because games are not designed to appeal to everyone. Shut the fuck up when the adults are speaking.
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nihilist212 23 hours ago#31
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.


Okay. //rolls eyes. 

If you wanna be specific, it's more niche than it's competitors? How about that? I'm not using "niche" to describe it as a negative thing. But if you look at it compared to games like Zelda, and you're saying that it stands a chance in universal popularity contest, then cocaine is one hell of a drug.

I'm not saying anything about Persona either way. I'm pointing out you don't know what the word niche means. I couldn't care any less about your feelings of the game.
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cookiegangster 23 hours ago#32
nihilist212 posted...

Literally every video game ever is aimed at a small group of the population.


This isn't true at all. I don't know what you're talking about.
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.


Why can say there are 3 levels of popularity 

NICHE can be something that is not popular among enthusiast of said hobbie for gamers that would be games that even most hardcore gamer doesn't know it exist like Trails of Cold steel or Psychonats these games usually sell less than 1 million up to maybe 2

MAINSTREAM when something is popular among enthusiasts of the hobbies but not the general masses...this would me Metal gear, Mass Effect and Assasines creed that most gamers know about but casuals and the masses dont. these are the games they usually sell from 1 or 2 million to around 15

MASS APPEAL when something is popular and know even outside of the hobbie...in the case of games that would be Pokemon, Mario, GTA, COD ...for this propose these games usually sell more than 15 million.....even most homeless people and granma know who mario is or have heard of grand theft auto
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psnshade71 23 hours ago#34
Metal_Gear_Link posted...
psnshade71 posted...
Kyto1984 posted...
Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.

Is that US sales? There's 400 million people in the US. To put it more in perspective, if you live in a large city of 10 million people and 1.8 million of them bought something then that sounds pretty significant. However not even 25% of them bought it. So if a million people buy the next autotune hiphop album it just means most people don't like shitty music.


@psnshade71 LOL are we Americans in another planet or what? videogames are a much more globalized industry than music or movies which is why you see games from everywhere in the world for GOTY awards and every country nominates games made in any country not just in their own country


Not sure what you took from what I posted. I was trying to use that as a simple size to illustrate my point. But you are correct and if the 1.8 million is global sales then that really is fucking pathetic.
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cymanx 23 hours ago#35
Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.
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Smogal 23 hours ago#36
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.


Okay. //rolls eyes. 

If you wanna be specific, it's more niche than it's competitors? How about that? I'm not using "niche" to describe it as a negative thing. But if you look at it compared to games like Zelda, and you're saying that it stands a chance in universal popularity contest, then cocaine is one hell of a drug.

I'm not saying anything about Persona either way. I'm pointing out you don't know what the word niche means. I couldn't care any less about your feelings of the game.


No, your point at the beginning was that I was using it as a negative, which you pulled out of your ass. Now you're trying to use 'niche' to describe games as a whole because they all don't appeal to the total population, when everyone with common sense knows that isn't what it's referring to. We're not talking about games compared to everything else, we're talking about what's niche within gaming. 

When people say 'niche' when talking about games on a gaming site, it's common sense that we're talking within said category already. Your argument is willfully ignorant.
Smogal posted...
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


@Smogal I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest










The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.
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psnshade71 23 hours ago#38
The game is a three letter word for happy. /topic
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rjames80 23 hours ago#39
CrimsonGear80 posted...
Smogal posted...
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


OMG, you are a doofus...

You realize you just proved his point, right?
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Faiyez 22 hours ago#40
lol. What if a single outlet picks P5 as their goty? What if P5 wins it over HZD on r/PS4? What will become of poor TC?
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Sir_Haxor 22 hours ago#41
People don't know the difference between shipped and sales in 2017? Bizarre...

Anyway TC, it's just fanboys who make those remarks. I mean, we have clowns saying you're racist if you don't like the game lol.
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psnshade71 22 hours ago#42
cymanx posted...
Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

It's a niche game. There's nothing wrong with that. If it weren't niche everyone would play it, or nobody would.
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Smogal 22 hours ago#43
Faiyez posted...
lol. What if a single outlet picks P5 as their goty? What if P5 wins it over HZD on r/PS4? What will become of poor TC?


Well, I mean, I thought it was pretty clear that I was referring to across platform, since I compared it to BoTW. So I'd be pretty chillax.

I'd be fine if it won GOTY in general, though. I'd be surprised as fuck, but I wouldn't be mad. Actually, I think It would be a good thing for me. I want to see more JRPGs. A JRPG as 'J' as RPGs go, winning GOTY year would be more encouraging to Japanese developers, I think.
rjames80 22 hours ago#44
cymanx posted...
Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

What race are weaboos?
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CrimsonGear80 22 hours ago#45
rjames80 posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...
Smogal posted...
OutFromUndr posted...
If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


OMG, you are a doofus...

You realize you just proved his point, right?


That he's a doofus? Cause that was the only point I was trying to make.
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Smogal posted...
nihilist212


The problem is not how 
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nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
Smogal posted...
nihilist212 posted...
I wish I could reach through the screen and slap someone every time they try to use "niche" as a negative.

Here's a tip, we're all nerds who share the same entirely niche hobby.


I'm not using it as a negative. That's just how you're perceiving it because of blind bias.

The point is EVERY video game is niche. Every game is aimed at a specific group, which is the very definition of niche. It's no more or less niche than Mario, Zelda, Souls, etc. You can argue the popularity of them, but they're all niche.


Okay. //rolls eyes. 

If you wanna be specific, it's more niche than it's competitors? How about that? I'm not using "niche" to describe it as a negative thing. But if you look at it compared to games like Zelda, and you're saying that it stands a chance in universal popularity contest, then cocaine is one hell of a drug.

I'm not saying anything about Persona either way. I'm pointing out you don't know what the word niche means. I couldn't care any less about your feelings of the game.


No, your point at the beginning was that I was using it as a negative, which you pulled out of your ass. Now you're trying to use 'niche' to describe games as a whole because they all don't appeal to the total population, when everyone with common sense knows that isn't what it's referring to. We're not talking about games compared to everything else, we're talking about what's niche within gaming. 

When people say 'niche' when talking about games on a gaming site, it's common sense that we're talking within said category already. Your argument is willfully ignorant.



@nihilist212 @Smogal Ã½ou may or may have not use the word the word ´niche´ in a negative or condescending manner....but most people on videgame sites do use it in a negative or condecending manner...

Basically when gamers today want to dismiss the quality of a game based on sales:

If your favorite game is less popular than mine the it is niche and dont deserve GOTY awards
If your favorite game is more popular then it is casual crap that dont deserve GOTY awards
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VaultDwelIer 22 hours ago#47
i think persona 5 is one of the dumbest games of all time
rjames80 posted...
cymanx posted...
Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

What race are weaboos?


White from the belt up, black from the belt down and asian on the inside

In all seriousness... if you dislike a game just for it{s country of origin then you may be an intolerant...One thing is to say ´its just not my kind of game´ and another one to say ´all those games are crap´
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psnshade71 22 hours ago#49
VaultDwelIer posted...
i think persona 5 is one of the dumbest games of all time

Thanks for your valuable opinion and submission for shitpost of the week. Which isn't an actual contest here on gamefaqs but should be.
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rjames80 22 hours ago#50
Metal_Gear_Link posted...
rjames80 posted...
cymanx posted...
Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

What race are weaboos?


White from the belt up, black from the belt down and asian on the inside

Never heard of that race.
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    Twinmold 22 hours ago#51
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    Lol, I love the word weeb and it has nothing to do with racism. It's just a nice perjorative that describes a bunch of shut-ins who worship Japan.
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    Chrischris907 22 hours ago#52
    Lol weaboos
    RIP PS4 exclusives
    Twinmold posted...
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    Lol, I love the word weeb and it has nothing to do with racism. It's just a nice perjorative that describes a bunch of shut-ins who worship Japan.


    Nah @Twinmold westaboos and dudebros (both are different) use it to basically any people who prefer a japanese game over a western one
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    rjames80 22 hours ago#54
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Twinmold posted...
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    Lol, I love the word weeb and it has nothing to do with racism. It's just a nice perjorative that describes a bunch of shut-ins who worship Japan.


    Nah @Twinmold westaboos and dudebros (both are different) use it to basically any people who prefer a japanese game over a western one

    Westaboos? Lmao, what a nerd!
    "I know it's crooked, but it's the only game in town." - Canada Bill Jones
    Smogal posted...
    OutFromUndr posted...
    If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


    Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

    NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


    @Smogal I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

    All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest










    The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.
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    El_Zaggy 22 hours ago#56
    1.8m is huge
    600k in japan

    so the rest was sold in the rest of the world. its safe to assume that persona 5 is more popular in the rest of the world thatn in japan.

    what are you talking about tc.
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    VaultDwelIer 22 hours ago#57
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Smogal posted...
    OutFromUndr posted...
    If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


    Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

    NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


    @Smogal I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

    All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest










    The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.



    those youtubers must be weebs
    rjames80 posted...
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Twinmold posted...
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    Lol, I love the word weeb and it has nothing to do with racism. It's just a nice perjorative that describes a bunch of shut-ins who worship Japan.


    Nah @Twinmold westaboos and dudebros (both are different) use it to basically any people who prefer a japanese game over a western one

    Westaboos? Lmao, what a nerd!


    Westaboo is like a weaboo but for western RPGs, magic the gathering, comic books @rjames80 it´sm a different category than dudebros who hate both and all 3 are hated by SJWS 


    https://pics.me.me/weeaboos-and-westaboo-girls-fuck-black-lives-matter-the-unity-5575797.png

    what´s different on being a nerd for japan or for America or any other country? its the same shit just diferent art style
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    OliverQueen 22 hours ago#59
    Chrischris907 posted...
    Lol weaboos


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    Smogal 22 hours ago#60
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Smogal posted...
    OutFromUndr posted...
    If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


    Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

    NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


    I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

    All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest

    The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.


    @Metal_Gear_Link
    The only one of those that's a big site that's considering it as a contender for GOTY is Gameinformer. And they're trying to explain to you why it's a contender. lol 

    If you have to explain why said game is a contender, then it probably isn't going to get GOTY, imo.
    VaultDwelIer posted...
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Smogal posted...
    OutFromUndr posted...
    If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


    Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

    NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


    @Smogal I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

    All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest










    The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.



    those youtubers must be weebs



    They are not random youtubers they are the editors on IGN, Gamespot, official playstation magazine, Game informed etc @VaultDwelIer so if all big gamming sites are ´weebs´ as you say they P5 may even unfairly win.
    METAL GEAR SOLID 4 and SUPER SMASH BROSS BRAWL!!! 2007 games of the year!!!!
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    Smogal posted...
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Smogal posted...
    OutFromUndr posted...
    If you want to see what's big outside of gamefaqs, visit more than just gamefaqs lol. I have no idea how else you would come to that conclusion.


    Yes, that's how I came to that conclusion. lol Derp. 

    NeoGAF and Reddit like it, but they aren't saying anything like "GOTY, no contest!" They acknowledge that type of game. GameFAQ'ers seems to be under the assumption that P5 can compete with games like HZD and BOTW for GOTY. If you tell them otherwise, they get salty.


    I visit those sites and Persona 5 is mentioned a lot bro...

    All The biggest sites mention it as one of the contenders, some of them like IGN and Gamespot say Persona 5, Zelda and Horizon are way above the rest

    The only reason Persona 5 could loose is not because of popularity because it is popular among who matter HARDCORE GAMERS, the reason for it not to win is because there are very good games that also deserve those awards like zelda or horizon.


    @Metal_Gear_Link
    The only one of those that's a big site that's considering it as a contender for GOTY is Gameinformer. And they're trying to explain to you why it's a contender. lol 

    If you have to explain why said game is a contender, then it probably isn't going to get GOTY, imo.



    @Smogal LOL this only shows how much in denial you are you didnt even see the videos every single one of them say it is a candidate ... The IGN one even says P5, Zelda and Horizon is far above the rest....you must be one of those triggers people who are angry because a ´´weeb´´ game is always listed among the top while your precious Prey, Mass Effect Andromeda or maybe your social justice walking simulator like Edith finch are not
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    Smogal 22 hours ago#64
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    @Smogal LOL this only shows how much in denial you are you didnt even see the videos every single one of them say it is a candidate ... The IGN one even says P5, Zelda and Horizon is far above the rest....you must be one of those triggers people who are angry because a ´´weeb´´ game is always listed among the top while your precious Prey, Mass Effect Andromeda or maybe your social justice walking simulator like Edith finch are not


    Wow. That escalated rather quickly. Here I was thinking you and I would go at it with a respectful and sensical debate, I guess not. I said nothing about it being a weeb game, nor did I mention any of those other games. You just wanted a fight from the very beginning, huh? lol 

    @Metal_Gear_Link
    Smogal posted...
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    @Smogal LOL this only shows how much in denial you are you didnt even see the videos every single one of them say it is a candidate ... The IGN one even says P5, Zelda and Horizon is far above the rest....you must be one of those triggers people who are angry because a ´´weeb´´ game is always listed among the top while your precious Prey, Mass Effect Andromeda or maybe your social justice walking simulator like Edith finch are not


    Wow. That escalated rather quickly. Here I was thinking you and I would go at it with a respectful and sensical debate, I guess not. I said nothing about it being a weeb game, nor did I mention any of those other games. You just wanted a fight from the very beginning, huh? lol 

    @Metal_Gear_Link


    Because you replied whiteout even watching the videos to see you were wrong. Then it was the only conclusion that came to my mind bro. 

    If you dislike the game then it's fine. everyone has different tastes. I was just showing you how all big sites do mention the game when they speak about contenders. your response was just like if you didn't even see them. I{m not trying to insult you or anything I was just showing you you were uninformed in this matter. @Smogal 

    I would give you a beer if I could bro. I hope you didn't misunderstood me.
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    Lockheart34 22 hours ago#66
    Smogal posted...
    People here make it seem like it's undeniably GOTY solely because of their love of JRPGs. While it's gotten good reception and is a decent game, it seems like everyone is forgetting it's a niche title. The pacing and style of game doesn't have a chance to be GOTY, imo. 

    And if you think it stands against Zelda or HZD, whether you think they're overrated or not, is some very blinding bias.

    It seems like you're forgetting niche and GOTY have nothing to do with each other.
    Chucky86 22 hours ago#67
    So I like the game but I don't feel the need to consistently talk about it. Here or in the real world.
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    cymanx 21 hours ago#68
    rjames80 posted...
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    What race are weaboos?


    People use it to negatively describe Japanese games or fans of Japanese content, such as anime. Thus making it racist by default. I won't argue about this again. Good day.
    Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
    Twinmold 21 hours ago#69
    Do you enjoy Japanese games? Then you're a gamer.

    Do you enjoy Japanese games AND spending copious amounts of time on the internet complaining that Western games suck, crying that Japanese games aren't as popular, or constantly espousing the superiority of Japanese gaming? Then yeah, you're a weeb.
    Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain
    theshoveller 21 hours ago#70
    So, worldwide it sold 1.8 million copies, right?

    http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

    Global sales of PS4s are around 59.51 million. That's roughly 3%.

    According to that same site, the top 10 best-selling games on PS4 globally are all at 6.99 million or more. That means they cover anywhere from 12% - 26% of the install base.

    While it may be well-rated and well-liked by its fans, "niche" fits it pretty well with how few relative sales it's earned. Also, these numbers are a bit old, as they show Persona 5 at only 0.97 million sales globally, so if you find more accurate numbers, I'd be glad to redo the calculations, but I don't think they'll have changed much. For accuracy's sake, we'll redo the calculation using this 0.97 million number - that means they only have 1.67% of the install base (was going to round up to 2%, but that seemed a tad bit misleading given that the 1.8 million was literally just a hair over 3%.)
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    rjames80 20 hours ago#71
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Westaboo is like a weaboo but for western RPGs, magic the gathering, comic books @rjames80 it´sm a different category than dudebros who hate both and all 3 are hated by SJWS

    So like how Weeaboo can't be applied to Japanese people, I guess "Westaboo" can't be applied to anybody from a Western culture, right? It would have to be an Asian person obsessed with Western culture or something like that, right? @Metal_Gear_Link
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    Ultimaspirit 20 hours ago#72
    Twinmold posted...
    Lol, I love the word weeb and it has nothing to do with racism. It's just a nice perjorative that describes a bunch of shut-ins who worship Japan.

    Except it's almost used for anyone who likes anything from Japan, worship not involved. At this point it's a meme and a joke.
    rjames80 20 hours ago#73
    cymanx posted...
    rjames80 posted...
    cymanx posted...
    Alot of racist gamers (the people who use the word weaboo) are about the only gamers who don't really like Persona 5. Some may not feel any sort of difference, just because of their experience, or lack there of in RPGs in general.

    What race are weaboos?


    People use it to negatively describe Japanese games or fans of Japanese content, such as anime. Thus making it racist by default. I won't argue about this again. Good day.

    Ah, so you're ignorant and have no idea what a racist actually is. I understand now, thanks! If I supported such an ignorant position, I'd probably be hesitant to discuss it as well. Good call, @cymanx
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    DrChocolate 19 hours ago#74
    theshoveller posted...
    So, worldwide it sold 1.8 million copies, right?

    http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

    Global sales of PS4s are around 59.51 million. That's roughly 3%.

    According to that same site, the top 10 best-selling games on PS4 globally are all at 6.99 million or more. That means they cover anywhere from 12% - 26% of the install base.

    While it may be well-rated and well-liked by its fans, "niche" fits it pretty well with how few relative sales it's earned. Also, these numbers are a bit old, as they show Persona 5 at only 0.97 million sales globally, so if you find more accurate numbers, I'd be glad to redo the calculations, but I don't think they'll have changed much. For accuracy's sake, we'll redo the calculation using this 0.97 million number - that means they only have 1.67% of the install base (was going to round up to 2%, but that seemed a tad bit misleading given that the 1.8 million was literally just a hair over 3%.)

    Vg chartz is not acuarate bro... Also sales have nothing to do whit winning goty... I do not seee COD or pokemon wining every year even GTA v didn't got the most GOTY awaeds in 2013 it got stomped by the last of us... Also 2014 were dominatez by journey and telltales the walking dead.... Neithdr of the 2 sold more than 1.5 million that year @theshoveller
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    kislev 19 hours ago#75
    Pereona 5 is better then alot of other popular games
    We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
    If you grew up in the 80s then you are a weeb. All games were Japanese then.
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken!
    DrChocolate 19 hours ago#77
    rjames80 posted...
    Metal_Gear_Link posted...
    Westaboo is like a weaboo but for western RPGs, magic the gathering, comic books @rjames80 it´sm a different category than dudebros who hate both and all 3 are hated by SJWS

    So like how Weeaboo can't be applied to Japanese people, I guess "Westaboo" can't be applied to anybody from a Western culture, right? It would have to be an Asian person obsessed with Western culture or something like that, right? @Metal_Gear_Link

    @Ultimaspirit no the terms are used for people who blindly dislike either japanesr or western no matter where they are from... Terms are not about patriotism por stuff like that is about dismisaing a game just because where it was made

    n japan they have their own termas.
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    Ultimaspirit 19 hours ago#78
    DrChocolate posted...
    @Ultimaspirit no the terms are used for people who blindly dislike either japanesr or western no matter where they are from... Terms are not about patriotism por stuff like that is about dismisaing a game just because where it was made

    n japan they have their own termas.

    Why quote rjames80? The specific term weeb seems to apply to anyone that enjoys something from Japan that isn't culturally approved in the west. However it's gross overuse has made it little more than a joke. Weebs call other weebs weebs, because why not. That's how irrelevant it is now.
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    SiLVeR_420 19 hours ago#79
    blakfayt posted...
    cookiegangster posted...
    I honestly don't think the average gamer has heard of Persona. Wasn't the last console title back on PS2? And that was after the PS2 wasn't relevant any longer.

    And it still sold over 1 million copies, back before CoD sold 10 million and made anything less than multi million irrelevant.

    Only one Persona game broke 1 million before.
    Mio Akiyama's official husbando.
    InfinityOver0 18 hours ago#80
    If getting a 94 on Metacrtitc and not even clearing 2 million sales doesnt mean it's not popular then I just don't know what does. P5 is way too weeb for me but as gamers, we should all want highly rated games to sell well. It's good for the industry
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    darklink67 18 hours ago#81
    It has 2 million sales, it definitely isn't a "niche" game. Persona keeps getting bigger. Sorry, but try again TC
    DKFjalfe 18 hours ago#82
    darklink67 posted...
    It has 2 million sales, it definitely isn't a "niche" game. Persona keeps getting bigger. Sorry, but try again TC

    It's definitely still niche
    AfkNinja 18 hours ago#83
    darklink67 posted...
    It has 2 million sales, it definitely isn't a "niche" game. Persona keeps getting bigger. Sorry, but try again TC

    It is Niche and that's not negative. When a game has a 3% or lower attach rate you can't say it's not niche because it obviously is. 

    It can still win GOTY although I personally don't think it will.
    Comyx 18 hours ago#84
    I fail to see why would P5 being niche influence its chances of winning awards, considering the quality is there. Granted, some of the awards might indeed favor more popular games.
    Lovecraftiangod posted...
    Smogal posted...
    Lovecraftiangod posted...
    http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million
    I think you are wrong tc


    It shipped 1.5 million. And that's worldwide. It doesn't go against my point by any means being that we know at least 33 percent of that is from Japan. Try again.

    Ok
    http://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/persona-5-sold-1-5-million-copies/ 
    Good enough for you


    When it outsells CoD, then I'll care.
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    El_Zaggy 16 hours ago#86
    idk what people are trying to prove here ? that persona 5 isnt popular ? thats its not a big deal ? when bloodborne had that amount of sales, it was a big deal. but its not for persona 5 ? lol

    I mean even Phil Spencer went and congratulated sony for their great succcess at only 1m bloodborne unit sold.... from the looks ofit Perosna might smash the 2m copies at the end of the year...
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    DrChocolate 16 hours ago#87
    El_Zaggy posted...
    idk what people are trying to prove here ? that persona 5 isnt popular ? thats its not a big deal ? when bloodborne had that amount of sales, it was a big deal. but its not for persona 5 ? lol

    I mean even Phil Spencer went and congratulated sony for their great succcess at only 1m bloodborne unit sold.... from the looks ofit Perosna might smash the 2m copies at the end of the year...
    no idea really...
    DrChocolate 16 hours ago#88
    NemesisOgreKing posted...
    Lovecraftiangod posted...
    Smogal posted...
    Lovecraftiangod posted...
    http://gematsu.com/2017/04/persona-5-worldwide-shipments-top-1-5-million
    I think you are wrong tc


    It shipped 1.5 million. And that's worldwide. It doesn't go against my point by any means being that we know at least 33 percent of that is from Japan. Try again.

    Ok
    http://www.criticalhit.net/gaming/persona-5-sold-1-5-million-copies/ 
    Good enough for you


    When it outsells CoD, then I'll care.

    Lol COD doesnt win GOTY awards por is even consideres for that lol
    DrChocolate 16 hours ago#89
    DKFjalfe posted...
    darklink67 posted...
    It has 2 million sales, it definitely isn't a "niche" game. Persona keeps getting bigger. Sorry, but try again TC

    It's definitely still niche

    Do you realize that mass effect, dark souls, bloodborne dragon age, metroid sales are just a bit higher than persona 5??? They are closer to persona than to uncharted 4 metal gear 5 por FF xv
    El_Zaggy 15 hours ago#90
    DrChocolate posted...
    DKFjalfe posted...
    darklink67 posted...
    It has 2 million sales, it definitely isn't a "niche" game. Persona keeps getting bigger. Sorry, but try again TC

    It's definitely still niche

    Do you realize that mass effect, dark souls, bloodborne dragon age, metroid sales are just a bit higher than persona 5??? They are closer to persona than to uncharted 4 metal gear 5 por FF xv

    people have a distorted view of what sales numbers mean and what is niche and whats not. In short, they know nothing but still comment on the subject. something niche is a game that target a specific audience and the game doesnt even try to become popular. selling in the low hundreds of K... Persona 5 got casualized and got marketed for the general public and now its quite popular

    example of niche jrpgs are the tales of series.
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    Faiyez 14 hours ago#91
    El_Zaggy posted...
    Persona 5 got casualized


    Totally meaningless statement, with Atlus simply expanding and refining the tried and true formula of the series. You can still get creamed in Easy... So much for the casuals! But apparently, addressing all the silly issues/annoyances over time has made the series more casual. 

    Marketed how? HOW? It's all been word of mouth.
    I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR!
    -GlowStormLion on Japan's kinks.
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    JM_14_GOW 14 hours ago#92
    How good is p5 for a person that has never played any entry?
    Playing: Rainbow Six Siege/Battlefield 1/Dark Souls 3
    El_Zaggy 14 hours ago#93
    Faiyez posted...
    El_Zaggy posted...
    Persona 5 got casualized


    Totally meaningless statement, with Atlus simply expanding and refining the tried and true formula of the series. You can still get creamed in Easy... So much for the casuals! But apparently, addressing all the silly issues/annoyances over time has made the series more casual. 

    Marketed how? HOW? It's all been word of mouth.

    it baffles me how people gets 'creamed' in persona 5 lol ,might even be the easiest persona to date. there's only that part at the end on he 24th when it goes on and on and on for quite a long time that seems a bit less casual

    @JM_14_GOW its a good entry point as the game mechanics have been simplified and difficulty has been greatly reduced to please a wider audience. Persona 4 golden might be too.
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    JM_14_GOW 14 hours ago#94
    Good to know, I am not a rpg noob but if the older games had more complex stuff I don't mind a little bit of casualness.
    Playing: Rainbow Six Siege/Battlefield 1/Dark Souls 3
    Zordoos 13 hours ago#95
    Someone's been living under a rock.
    Faiyez 11 hours ago#96
    JM_14_GOW posted...
    Good to know, I am not a rpg noob but if the older games had more complex stuff I don't mind a little bit of casualness.


    The older games didn't have more complex stuff. They were simpler in fact and had less systems to work with. What the older games did have was more quality of life issues and inconveniences at the gameplay level that artificially drove the difficulty. And don't get me started on older SMT.
    I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR!
    -GlowStormLion on Japan's kinks.
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    SneakiestNeg 11 hours ago#97
    And this matters why? Popularity or lack there of doesn't change the game.
    Billysan 11 hours ago#98
    I think the game is still pretty niche despite the promising sales.

    I say this because I honestly believe a large majority of people in the west simply bought the game due to the coverage it got on social media and probably only played like 20 minutes of the game before never touching it again.

    Essentially a lot of casual people are buying into what is essentially a niche game gone viral.
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    CLupula 10 hours ago#99
    TC has exposed himself as a fool! It would be best if you never posted again, loser.
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      1. Boards
      2. PlayStation 4
      3. It seems like people forget Persona 5 isn't popular outside of Japan/GameFAQs.
      theshoveller 3 hours ago#101
      DrChocolate posted...
      theshoveller posted...
      So, worldwide it sold 1.8 million copies, right?

      http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

      Global sales of PS4s are around 59.51 million. That's roughly 3%.

      According to that same site, the top 10 best-selling games on PS4 globally are all at 6.99 million or more. That means they cover anywhere from 12% - 26% of the install base.

      While it may be well-rated and well-liked by its fans, "niche" fits it pretty well with how few relative sales it's earned. Also, these numbers are a bit old, as they show Persona 5 at only 0.97 million sales globally, so if you find more accurate numbers, I'd be glad to redo the calculations, but I don't think they'll have changed much. For accuracy's sake, we'll redo the calculation using this 0.97 million number - that means they only have 1.67% of the install base (was going to round up to 2%, but that seemed a tad bit misleading given that the 1.8 million was literally just a hair over 3%.)

      Vg chartz is not acuarate bro... Also sales have nothing to do whit winning goty... I do not seee COD or pokemon wining every year even GTA v didn't got the most GOTY awaeds in 2013 it got stomped by the last of us... Also 2014 were dominatez by journey and telltales the walking dead.... Neithdr of the 2 sold more than 1.5 million that year

      If you can find more accurate numbers, then go for it. My point was to show that it's "niche" because it doesn't have a terribly wide appeal - the very definition of niche. Being "game of the year" has nothing to do with if it's niche or not - I'm sure Undertale won a lot of various awards including at least one game of the year award, but it's still a niche title. Pokemon, I'll admit, I have no idea what it is. It seems to have wide appeal given how popular Pokemon Go was along with each subsequent game release, but at the same time I'm pretty sure Pokemon Go has a lot less players now that the initial hype has died down showing at least that aspect of it to be more of a fad than a long-lasting appeal. Game sales are still extremely good, though, so I don't think that's niche.

      Again, this is all just my assessment of it. Agree to disagree if you want - I'm just theorizing here.
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      Smogal posted...
      psnshade71 posted...
      Kyto1984 posted...
      Persona 5 sales are 1.8 million as of 27 July 2017. Not exactly niche.

      Is that US sales? There's 400 million people in the US. To put it more in perspective, if you live in a large city of 10 million people and 1.8 million of them bought something then that sounds pretty significant. However not even 25% of them bought it. So if a million people buy the next autotune hiphop album it just means most people don't like shitty music.


      No, it isn't. That's worldwide.



      So out of 7.4 billion people only 1.8 million people own it? that is awfully low
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      Newhopes 3 hours ago#103
      VGchartz are a joke .

      They have Persona 5 down as around 1m sale when we know for a fact it sold at least 1.5m first week.
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      theshoveller 3 hours ago#104
      Newhopes posted...
      VGchartz are a joke .

      Find me more accurate numbers and I'll run the calculations again, though I think that while the hard numbers may change, the relative numbers - the percentages - won't show much of a difference.
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      El_Zaggy 1 hour ago#105
      not finding accurate numbers doesnt mean vgz numbers should be seriously discussed

      lol

      you can have a serious discussion about something if the stuff you bring into the discussion is false.
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      1. Boards
      2. PlayStation 4 
      3. It seems like people forget Persona 5 isn't popular outside of Japan/GameFAQs.

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