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Jim Sterling gave splatoon II 7/10 for just being the same as the original

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NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#1
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added
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sylawaatch 11 hours ago#2
Lol he sucks.
kabutokouji 11 hours ago#3
and who is that guy again?
_Dog 11 hours ago#4
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added

Might have to do with Dry Bones.
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NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#5
kabutokouji posted...
and who is that guy again?


a ranting video game reviewer who has his own youtube channel and website
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#6
NightMareBunny posted...
kabutokouji posted...
and who is that guy again?


a ranting video game reviewer who has his own youtube channel and website

oh so a nobody? gotcha.
VanderZoo 11 hours ago#7
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#8
Boy some of you sure like this guy.
VeiledGenesis 11 hours ago#9
Who the fuck cares about Jim Sterling?
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Bellagio_6 11 hours ago#10
He was far too generous with his BOTW and MK8D scores. Both were sub par sub 5 games at best.
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#11
Bellagio_6 posted...
He was far too generous with his BOTW and MK8D scores. Both were sub par sub 5 games at best.

lol
NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#12
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#13
does itreally matter what he thinks?NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore

Does it really matter what Jim Sterling thinks?
VanderZoo 11 hours ago#14
NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#15
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/

yeah no, a 7 is awful bad but still has few ppl that could enjoy it, 8 is good, 9 is great, and 10 is flawless. at least by Asia standards, not just my country.
Mr_Big_Boss 11 hours ago#16
ssgoku831 posted...
does itreally matter what he thinks?NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore

Does it really matter what Jim Sterling thinks?


It matters to nightmarebunny
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#17
Mr_Big_Boss posted...
ssgoku831 posted...
does itreally matter what he thinks?NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore

Does it really matter what Jim Sterling thinks?


It matters to nightmarebunny

Apparently lol
Rolfin 11 hours ago#18
kabutokouji posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/

yeah no, a 7 is awful bad but still has few ppl that could enjoy it, 8 is good, 9 is great, and 10 is flawless. at least by Asia standards, not just my country.


After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)
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sylawaatch 11 hours ago#19
No one thinks of a 7 being good these days. I blame the school system.
Braev 11 hours ago#20
Rolfin posted...
After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

Yeah, his scale is pretty much the one I use.
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#21
Rolfin posted...
kabutokouji posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
VanderZoo posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


The standards for a port and sequel are different.


what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/

yeah no, a 7 is awful bad but still has few ppl that could enjoy it, 8 is good, 9 is great, and 10 is flawless. at least by Asia standards, not just my country.


After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)

so just because he made up numbers he expect the world to go by it? and what is worst is that so many sheeps in gamefaqs follow him and seems like they would go to war for him(go to war behind a computer screen that is)
NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#22
i just think it's silly to view sequels for online games as expansion packs onto the original and nothing more

what more must you do to be treated as a sequel?
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#23
sylawaatch posted...
No one thinks of a 7 being good these days. I blame the school system.

and apparently that jim something never gone to school.
Faiyez 11 hours ago#24
It's Important Man Jim Sterling, TC. Don't drop the title like that.
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Rolfin 11 hours ago#25
Braev posted...
Rolfin posted...
After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

Yeah, his scale is pretty much the one I use.


I'm not a reviewer, and I typically avoid trying to use simple numbers to judge things as complex as games.

But as someone WATCHING (or reading a review), I think the way he presents it is far more descriptive and fair to games in general
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metroid02 11 hours ago#26
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).
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NeoMonk 11 hours ago#27
kabutokouji posted...
and who is that guy again?

a tub of lard with a voice
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#28
NightMareBunny posted...
i just think it's silly to view sequels for online games as expansion packs onto the original and nothing more

what more must you do to be treated as a sequel?

Did you enjoy the game?
kabutokouji 11 hours ago#29
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).

nope, i google the dude before giving his video a view and his website expect expensive gifts, i dont support that kind of Manure.
Rolfin 11 hours ago#30
kabutokouji posted...
so just because he made up numbers he expect the world to go by it? and what is worst is that so many sheeps in gamefaqs follow him and seems like they would go to war for him(go to war behind a computer screen that is)


He didn't "make the numbers up", he just uses the scale appropriately (in my opinion). I also don't follow that guy, as I find his demeanor to be annoying. A not-so-subtle ego done with not-so-subtle irony.

But I do agree with his scale. Although it can obviously be a problem with things like metacritic. The metric system, for example, is far more sensible than what we use in the states, but it doesn't mean we can all just drop it and use nothing but metric in a week.
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NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#31
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).


if salmon run was 24/7 It'd be a bit insane due to the bonuses you get and even disregarding that how often will you find enough players when it stops being that special event mode and instead just gets shoved off to the side as something You'll do once in awhile

you wanna know why some online shooters don't let you pick the game type or the map? because we'd have situations where certain maps and modes are ghost towns void of any players whatsoever

give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase
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metroid02 11 hours ago#32
kabutokouji posted...
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).

nope, i google the dude before giving his video a view and his website expect expensive gifts, i dont support that kind of Manure.


What are you talking about? Specifically the gifts part, what gifts are you referring to?
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ROB45 11 hours ago#33
Who?
Pox 11 hours ago#34
NightMareBunny posted...
give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase

Most shooters don't have this problem, so...
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#35
ssgoku831 posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
i just think it's silly to view sequels for online games as expansion packs onto the original and nothing more

what more must you do to be treated as a sequel?

Did you enjoy the game?

i love the game, i play it every day for at least 4 hrs when i get home from 12hrs work, cant get enough of it bought all the original Splatoon 1 amiibos as well as all the wave from part 2 and all give decent bonus, it irks me whn i cant play salmon rush because i work 7days, but since i own the business i could send my wife to manage it on a slow day and take the system to work and connect it to the big screen TV for customers and let them watch how i play.
Bellagio_6 11 hours ago#36
Wow. Kabuto is talking out of his ass.
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Bellagio_6 11 hours ago#37
ROB45 posted...
Who?

Don't you get tired of this gimmick?
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#38
Pox posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase

Most shooters don't have this problem, so...

yes they do, i have never touched or have any interest in Zombie mode of CoD as well as story, same with battlefield, hate story mode on shooters.
NightMareBunny 11 hours ago#39
Pox posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase

Most shooters don't have this problem, so...


so every single game mode is populated quite well even the terrible ones? wow what changed
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the_NGW 11 hours ago#40
Still too high. 5 or 6 at best.
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kabutokouji 11 hours ago#41
metroid02 posted...
kabutokouji posted...
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).

nope, i google the dude before giving his video a view and his website expect expensive gifts, i dont support that kind of Manure.


What are you talking about? Specifically the gifts part, what gifts are you referring to?

something called patron wishlist or something.
metroid02 11 hours ago#42
NightMareBunny posted...
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).


if salmon run was 24/7 It'd be a bit insane due to the bonuses you get and even disregarding that how often will you find enough players when it stops being that special event mode and instead just gets shoved off to the side as something You'll do once in awhile

you wanna know why some online shooters don't let you pick the game type or the map? because we'd have situations where certain maps and modes are ghost towns void of any players whatsoever

give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase



Then change the bonuses. Not everyone here has all the time in the world to play Splatoon 2 all day and take advantage of the Salmon Run opening times. If I want to play Salmon Run I should not have to adhere to some arbitrary schedule just to do so. 

I dont care too much about not being able to chose the map, but I think they should just make it so that every map is elligible to be played on regardless of match time. Two hours (I believe thats the rotation time) is a long time to play on the same map over and over again.
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the_NGW 11 hours ago#43
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


Because Mario Kart at its core is good. Splatoon at its core is trash.
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BurgerTime79 11 hours ago#44
So?
He can have an opinion, even if you don't like it. The fact that people get so butthurt over Jim is absolutely pathetic. At least he's not going "1/10! Bad game! Anyone who disagrees is a Nintendo shill!".
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metroid02 11 hours ago#45
kabutokouji posted...
metroid02 posted...
kabutokouji posted...
metroid02 posted...
I think the score is fair. How many of you guys complaining actually saw the video? There were a couple more things he was complaining about aside from the fact that it was not as "new" as the original (such as the timed slots to play Salmon Run, which is something that cant be defended).

nope, i google the dude before giving his video a view and his website expect expensive gifts, i dont support that kind of Manure.


What are you talking about? Specifically the gifts part, what gifts are you referring to?

something called patron wishlist or something.

First time Ive heard of it (and after googling it, seen it) because he makes no mention of it on his show. If you see his show you quickly notice that the guy plays (or used to play) a character who believed he should be worshiped (basically). If youre not in on the joke though then I guess, a superficial look at the guy would not give off a good image of the guy, still, I think that a lot of the topics he discusses would resonate really really well with any gaming audience.
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ssgoku831 11 hours ago#46
kabutokouji posted...
ssgoku831 posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
i just think it's silly to view sequels for online games as expansion packs onto the original and nothing more

what more must you do to be treated as a sequel?

Did you enjoy the game?

i love the game, i play it every day for at least 4 hrs when i get home from 12hrs work, cant get enough of it bought all the original Splatoon 1 amiibos as well as all the wave from part 2 and all give decent bonus, it irks me whn i cant play salmon rush because i work 7days, but since i own the business i could send my wife to manage it on a slow day and take the system to work and connect it to the big screen TV for customers and let them watch how i play.

That's cool. I don't understand why people complain about reviews all the time. I look at it as did I have fun and if yes then I don't care what anyone else thinks about it.
Bellagio_6 11 hours ago#47
the_NGW posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


Because Mario Kart at its core is good. Splatoon at its core is trash.

Wrong. MK8D is the worst online game I have ever played. There is nothing good about it. 

Hell even older Mario Karts were better in that department than Deluxe.
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kabutokouji posted...
and who is that guy again?

a wanna be nazi
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BurgerTime79 11 hours ago#49
And there goes Maverick Godwin'ing the topic with a completely wrong claim.
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Bellagio_6 11 hours ago#50
BurgerTime79 posted...
And there goes Maverick Godwin'ing the topic with a completely wrong claim.

Wow. I can't believe I agree with you for once.
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    Bellagio_6 posted...
    BurgerTime79 posted...
    And there goes Maverick Godwin'ing the topic with a completely wrong claim.

    Wow. I can't believe I agree with you for once.

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    DynoStretch 11 hours ago#52
    I'm of the belief a game should be reviewed by it's own merits, rather then comparing it to other games, even if it's a direct sequel or port.

    I remember the harse treatment Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky got from reviewers, even getting lower scores then Explorers of Time/Darkness, despite being a superior versoon, mostly due to it being too much like T/D.

    I don't disagree with Jim's score, but his logic behind it is pretty silly.

    Oh, and if the Sony fanboys start putting him on a pedestal like they did when he reviewed BOTW, refer them to Jim's newest video where he calls out Sony and their habit of endorsing and exessive price gouging of terrible and broken Indy games. See if they praise him then.
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    VanderZoo 11 hours ago#53
    Rolfin posted...
    kabutokouji posted...
    VanderZoo posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    VanderZoo posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

    how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


    The standards for a port and sequel are different.


    what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

    you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


    Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

    7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

    http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/

    yeah no, a 7 is awful bad but still has few ppl that could enjoy it, 8 is good, 9 is great, and 10 is flawless. at least by Asia standards, not just my country.


    After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

    He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

    He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)


    Yeah I like his scoring system as well, it's a lot more balanced.
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    DynoStretch posted...
    I'm of the belief a game should be reviewed by it's own merits, rather then comparing it to other games, even if it's a direct sequel or port.

    I remember the harse treatment Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky got from reviewers, even getting lower scores then Explorers of Time/Darkness, despite being a superior versoon, mostly due to it being too much like T/D.

    I don't disagree with Jim's score, but his logic behind it is pretty silly.

    Oh, and if the Sony fanboys start putting him on a pedestal like they did when he reviewed BOTW, refer them to Jim's newest video where he calls out Sony and their habit of endorsing and exessive price gouging of terrible and broken Indy games.

    He also stated that Sony Fanboys are the worst.
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    Pox 11 hours ago#55
    kabutokouji posted...
    Pox posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase

    Most shooters don't have this problem, so...

    yes they do, i have never touched or have any interest in Zombie mode of CoD as well as story, same with battlefield, hate story mode on shooters.

    And yet there's plenty of peole that play those modes...

    NightMareBunny posted...
    Pox posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    give people the choice of what game mode to pick and You'll end up having some modes being completely ignored by the fanbase

    Most shooters don't have this problem, so...


    so every single game mode is populated quite well even the terrible ones? wow what changed

    Yes, nothing has changed. Unless there's literally zero people playing a mode, then there will always be people to play against. If there's literally zero people playing then there's something wrong with the game mode. There will always some game modes that are more popular, but that doesn't mean you can't play the less popular ones.
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    ecylis 11 hours ago#57
    He gave the original Splatoon an 8 so it only lost a point for having unsatisfying new content

    And I can't even find an original MK8 review, only his DX one so there's nothing to compare it to. The first sentence of his MK8DX review explains that he barely even played the original: "I regret not spending enough time with Mario Kart 8 when it was a Wii U title, but if getting to experience much of its content for the first time through Mario Kart 8 is to be my penance, I’ve earned myself the best punishment in the world."
    _Dog 10 hours ago#58
    @Bellagio_6 posted...
    the_NGW posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

    how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


    Because Mario Kart at its core is good. Splatoon at its core is trash.

    Wrong. MK8D is the worst online game I have ever played. There is nothing good about it. 

    Hell even older Mario Karts were better in that department than Deluxe.


    It's safe for me to declare you a shill for Jim Sterling.

    The MK8D online was pretty fun too. You should try it again.
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    ecylis 10 hours ago#59
    _Dog posted...
    It's safe for me to declare you a shill for Jim Sterling.

    but his opinion is the exact opposite of Jim Sterling's, Jim fucking loves it
    Pox 10 hours ago#60
    ecylis posted...
    _Dog posted...
    It's safe for me to declare you a shill for Jim Sterling.

    but his opinion is the exact opposite of Jim Sterling's, Jim fucking loves it

    Shhhh, let him look like a fool.
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    kabutokouji posted...
    Rolfin posted...
    kabutokouji posted...
    VanderZoo posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    VanderZoo posted...
    NightMareBunny posted...
    yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

    how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added


    The standards for a port and sequel are different.


    what was he expecting? for the game to drastically change in the sequel

    you are not gonna see a shooter or fighting game overhaul itself to the point where it's not even the same game anymore


    Yeah, which is why he gave it a 7, which means it's good.

    7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.

    http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/

    yeah no, a 7 is awful bad but still has few ppl that could enjoy it, 8 is good, 9 is great, and 10 is flawless. at least by Asia standards, not just my country.


    After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

    He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

    He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)

    so just because he made up numbers he expect the world to go by it? and what is worst is that so many sheeps in gamefaqs follow him and seems like they would go to war for him(go to war behind a computer screen that is)


    Just because u use a 4 point scale doesn't mean everyone else does ...
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    arvilino 10 hours ago#62
    VanderZoo posted...
    Rolfin posted...


    After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

    He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

    He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)


    Yeah I like his scoring system as well, it's a lot more balanced.


    Too bad he doesn't use that scoring system.

    https://www.destructoid.com/review-kid-icarus-uprising-224073.phtml
    Rating: 5/10 - ;Review by Jim Sterling


    http://www.thejimquisition.com/star-fox-zero-review/
    And don’t kid yourself – Kid Icarus Uprising was total shite.


    He's having his cake and eating it(and he's not using his review scale either) .Basically gets away with it because his e-celeb status has people dismiss scrutiny of him even though he has a wonkier scoring system than IGN.
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    randomperson2 10 hours ago#63
    arvilino posted...
    VanderZoo posted...
    Rolfin posted...


    After seeing that link, I took a peak over there and decided to see what Jim's numbers mean... And I actually like his scale the best.

    He makes some valid points as to why he uses the scale he uses and how modern rating standards have culled us into thinking a game isn't worth it unless it's at LEAST an 8... Which is fairly stupid

    He also makes it a point to have 5 as the "neutral" score, which is where it should be, given that it's the middle number (or fights for middle number spot, technically)


    Yeah I like his scoring system as well, it's a lot more balanced.


    Too bad he doesn't use that scoring system.

    https://www.destructoid.com/review-kid-icarus-uprising-224073.phtml
    Rating: 5/10 - ;Review by Jim Sterling


    http://www.thejimquisition.com/star-fox-zero-review/
    And don’t kid yourself – Kid Icarus Uprising was total shite.


    He's having his cake and eating it(and he's not using his review scale either) .Basically gets away with it because his e-celeb status has people dismiss scrutiny of him even though he has a wonkier scoring system than IGN.

    Chances are he was using the Destructoid scoring system when he was reviewing for Destructoid
    slyman19 10 hours ago#64
    Jim Sterling is about as smart as a log.
    beltrunner19 10 hours ago#65
    People care because even though he has a ... unique scoring system he goes on metacritic sometimes, like I never BotW. I personally don't care, but somebody do.
    Rizeroth 10 hours ago#66
    NightMareBunny posted...
    yet he gave MK8D 9/10 despite that being the same as every other mario kart at it's core

    how the hell is that fair? you can't just say "yeah this game loses points for just being the same game with a couple new things added" when previously you had praised a game that was just more of the same with a few new things added

    He's just one regular every day dude with an opinion. He's more of an e-celeb thing so that definitely isn't worth getting your head tied over. His reviews don't always make sense because he needs to go celebrity. Don't let it ruin your day. Some of my most favorite games ever are not the best rated by reviewers. Though i do sometimes use ratings for comparative analysis.
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    arvilino 10 hours ago#67
    randomperson2 posted...

    Chances are he was using the Destructoid scoring system when he was reviewing for Destructoid


    Nah he was using his own scoring system back then too.

    http://www.original-gamer.com/index.php?action=article&id=1019 (from 2010)

    Jim: The way I write reviews might be different than the way other people do it. What I always tell everyone on the staff, and what I tell myself, is write the review first and don’t think about giving it a number until you finish writing the review. We’ve got a 10 point scale and we try to use all 10 points. Every single number has a particular summary next to it. We got 10 for Flawless Victory, as close to perfect as possible, right down to 1 where there’s nothing redeeming whatsoever.

    I’ll write the review, read through the review, and then I’ll match the tone of the review with the tone reflected in the score (summary). I wrote the Assassins Creed II review out as honest as I can possibly be, aired all my grievances and everything. Read through it, lined it up with my scores, and said that I’ve written a 4.5 review. It’s mediocre which puts it at 5 but there are these other points that are dragging it down. With the tone of the review, I cannot give it any higher.


    The main problem is I doubt the sincerity of his reviews. I don't think he uses his own review scores and it often seems like whenever he has a video lined up about a specific game he just hands out a controversial score and baits people to react negatively to it e.g. the line about how Kid Icarus was total shite(You know despite giving it a 5/10 which is just supposed to be "mediocre") specifically to drive traffic to his videos.
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    Kolari 10 hours ago#68
    Could have been worse...
    Could have been Jimmy Kimble to have done the review........ and then no one would have really cared
    and just gone out and bought and played the game happily anyways..
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    It's not even the same as the original. I've not played the 2nd game yet, but just watching some videos already shows that it clearly brings a lot of new things and changes to the table. The Dualies rolling around is nothing like anything in Splatoon 1. And the already excellent chargers now have some amazing new movement options with the hold-charge thing. I can be more offensive than ever with them (and I already was offensive). Nearly all, if not all of the supers of the weapons are new and quite different to use.

    Aside from those things, there's still plenty of other stuff. The game has more f***ing changes and additions to the gameplay than CoD got between 2010 and now. There's going to be more new free maps and new weapon types that weren't in the first game as well. I really dunno how people can say that it's the same thing as the original. I was skeptical at first with the initial trailers, but I think you'd have to be pretty blind right now to not notice just how different the sequel is, especially if you've played the sequel.
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    Bob-omb-omb 9 hours ago#70
    Fair.
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    ecylis 9 hours ago#71
    arvilino posted...
    Too bad he doesn't use that scoring system.

    https://www.destructoid.com/review-kid-icarus-uprising-224073.phtml
    Rating: 5/10 - ;Review by Jim Sterling


    http://www.thejimquisition.com/star-fox-zero-review/
    And don’t kid yourself – Kid Icarus Uprising was total shite.


    He's having his cake and eating it(and he's not using his review scale either) .Basically gets away with it because his e-celeb status has people dismiss scrutiny of him even though he has a wonkier scoring system than IGN.

    You can't judge his review based on one thing he said years later

    Kid Icarus: Uprising does a lot of great things. Its lighthearted story full of camp characters, shameless self-references, and constant desire to break the fourth wall is entertaining and often amusing. The sheer wealth of content is impressive, with a full-fledged campaign, multiplayer options, and additional content. There's also a brilliant difficulty adjustment system, allowing you to make precise tweaks to the "intensity" of a level in exchange for more rewards. There's so much to love about Uprising, and that's why it's so distressing that over 50 percent of it is actively unpleasant to play

    Kid Icarus: Uprising is equal parts tremendous and terrible

    He loved the flying sections, hated the grounded sections. Loved 50%, hated 50%. Thus, 50% score.
    kaliskonig 9 hours ago#72
    Um how is that not fair? When a sequel feels exactly the same the game loses that "first time" magic. a 7/10 for Splatoon 2 is more than fair.
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    arvilino 9 hours ago#73
    ecylis posted...

    You can't judge his review based on one thing he said years later


    How so? Is his most recent statement about it in a review not his real opinion?
    'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
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    ecylis 9 hours ago#74
    arvilino posted...
    ecylis posted...
    You can't judge his review based on one thing he said years later

    How so? Is his most recent statement about it in a review not his real opinion?

    This might be an absolutely alien concept: but maybe people can change their mind. Maybe especially after years have passed?
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    CaIiber345 9 hours ago#75
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    metroid02 9 hours ago#76
    nonexistinghero posted...
    It's not even the same as the original. I've not played the 2nd game yet, but just watching some videos already shows that it clearly brings a lot of new things and changes to the table. The Dualies rolling around is nothing like anything in Splatoon 1. And the already excellent chargers now have some amazing new movement options with the hold-charge thing. I can be more offensive than ever with them (and I already was offensive). Nearly all, if not all of the supers of the weapons are new and quite different to use.

    Aside from those things, there's still plenty of other stuff. The game has more f***ing changes and additions to the gameplay than CoD got between 2010 and now. There's going to be more new free maps and new weapon types that weren't in the first game as well. I really dunno how people can say that it's the same thing as the original. I was skeptical at first with the initial trailers, but I think you'd have to be pretty blind right now to not notice just how different the sequel is, especially if you've played the sequel.


    As much as I adore Splatoon 2 (I own it), almost nothing in this game (aside from new visuals) is so unique and amazing that it couldnt pass for something that could be added to the first game. 

    The dualies? Its one weapon type. One. Sure, theyre immensely fun, but lets not act like thats so much new content. 
    Charger and other weapon changes could easily be introduced via a patch as well. 

    The only thing thats truly new about this game, aside from the visuals, is Salmon Run (and I guess the "new" single player, which is basically more of the same). Rarely are people who say that a sequel feels more like the original "v1.5" so accurate. This does not change the fact that I immensely enjoy the game. 


    Also, lets not bring CoD into the equation here. Jims dislike for that series has resulted in complete and utter apathy regarding to the series as a whole even when the devs pull stunts that would regularly have gotten them a 20 min jimquisition had it been a different game.
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    _Angel_ 9 hours ago#77
    Ah

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    Starlord12 9 hours ago#78
    Bellagio_6 posted...
    He was far too generous with his BOTW and MK8D scores. Both were sub par sub 5 games at best.


    And you are far too pessimistic. 8/10 sounds good to me :P
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    arvilino 9 hours ago#79
    ecylis posted...
    arvilino posted...
    ecylis posted...
    You can't judge his review based on one thing he said years later

    How so? Is his most recent statement about it in a review not his real opinion?

    This might be an absolutely alien concept: but maybe people can change their mind. Maybe especially after years have passed?


    From "does a lot of great things" and "half of it is tremendous" to "total shite". Opinions can change somewhat but to renege on his opinion he's either an awful reviewer or doing what he often does and bait reactions.
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    kaliskonig posted...
    Um how is that not fair? When a sequel feels exactly the same the game loses that "first time" magic. a 7/10 for Splatoon 2 is more than fair.


    So a 7/10 for Uncharted 4 would be fair too.
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    Funcoland 8 hours ago#82
    Jim Sterling gives musou games 8+ ratings.

    I mean, I actually like some of his rants but he's an awful reviewer.
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    Nomanorus 7 hours ago#83
    S2 only let's you play Salmon run on certain days of the week. And, you can't switch out weapons while waiting for a new game. And, you need a cell phone app for voice chat.

    These are some of the dumbest and most baffling design choices I've ever seen in a muliplayer game. A seven seems deserved given the mental aneurysm the devs surely experienced.
    phineasfool 7 hours ago#84
    This is the same person that gave Modern Warfare 3 a 9.5/10. He's also quite an ass.
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    AstralFrost 7 hours ago#85
    Probably higher than it deserves, and you're complaining about it?
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    Sparkey528 6 hours ago#86
    Everyone knows he does this crap for attention.
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    metroid02 posted...
    As much as I adore Splatoon 2 (I own it), almost nothing in this game (aside from new visuals) is so unique and amazing that it couldnt pass for something that could be added to the first game. 

    The dualies? Its one weapon type. One. Sure, theyre immensely fun, but lets not act like thats so much new content. 
    Charger and other weapon changes could easily be introduced via a patch as well. 

    The only thing thats truly new about this game, aside from the visuals, is Salmon Run (and I guess the "new" single player, which is basically more of the same). Rarely are people who say that a sequel feels more like the original "v1.5" so accurate. This does not change the fact that I immensely enjoy the game. 


    Also, lets not bring CoD into the equation here. Jims dislike for that series has resulted in complete and utter apathy regarding to the series as a whole even when the devs pull stunts that would regularly have gotten them a 20 min jimquisition had it been a different game.


    Fact of the matter is that Splatoon adds and changes a lot more than even most game franchises these days. The base gameplay is the same, but if it wasn't they might as well have made a different franchise. Splatoon 1 has very good gameplay, there was no need to completely throw it around and they added and changed about as much as they could afford for a sequel, without abandoning what the first game was.

    And I might as well bring up the MK8D example. It might be a port, but this 'Deluxe' version adds less content than most remasters of games that include all of the previous DLC, yet it sells for full price. Yet he didn't complain about that not adding enough to the original and gave it a good score.

    I've also played A LOT and I meant A LOOOOT of games that are true .5's of the previous games. They have new stages, but at best just offer minor tweaks in the gameplay. In fact, most major franchises are guilty of this. Let reviewers complain more about those releases instead of games that actually do add and change a significant amount.

    And no, those things couldn't have been added through a patch easily. The game was balanced with the abilities it had, they'd have to completely overhaul the engine and have rebalanced all of the weapons in order to do that. There's not a single game out there that has made that many changes in a patch.
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    rusty12000 6 hours ago#88
    I love Jim's videos, He's one of the best on Youtube IMO, but he gives bad review scores to Nintendo games for attention.
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    briguy 5 hours ago#89
    A 7 is fine. I was sure he'd give it a 4 or 5 just to be an edge lord.
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    DavCube 5 hours ago#90
    One is an enhanced port. The other is a sequel. One is SUPPOSED to be the same thing as the original. The other is not.

    This is not even remotely close to being a double standard.
    BoundHunters 3 hours ago#91
    it was pretty hilarious how rattled the fanboys got about the zelda score, I wonder if this will have the same effect.

    And if it bothers you that much well...#priorities
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    teir 2 hours ago#92
    Did you watch his review? He said he really likes the game. You must be the kind of people who only look at review scores and never bother to read the review. This is just his opinion and I'm sure you have unpopular opinions about other games as well.
    Thiel1989 2 hours ago#93
    7/10 is a good score.
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    NightMareBunny 2 hours ago#94
    DavCube posted...
    One is an enhanced port. The other is a sequel. One is SUPPOSED to be the same thing as the original. The other is not.

    This is not even remotely close to being a double standard.



    Street Fighter has at it's core always been a fighting game between two characters duking it out

    sure future installment might change the engine slightly and add more characters but it's still the same game in the end

    does that mean Street Fighter 4 was just an enhanced port of Street Fighter II?

    does that mean every single call of duty was an enhanced port of the previous one?

    you make it sound like a sequel for a multiplayer game is suppose to reinvent the gameplay and throw everything you knew about it out the window

    this is only the second splatoon game it's far too early to reinvent the wheel and make the game something unrecognizable from the first game
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    NightMareBunny posted...
    DavCube posted...
    One is an enhanced port. The other is a sequel. One is SUPPOSED to be the same thing as the original. The other is not.

    This is not even remotely close to being a double standard.



    Street Fighter has at it's core always been a fighting game between two characters duking it out

    sure future installment might change the engine slightly and add more characters but it's still the same game in the end

    does that mean Street Fighter 4 was just an enhanced port of Street Fighter II?

    does that mean every single call of duty was an enhanced port of the previous one?

    you make it sound like a sequel for a multiplayer game is suppose to reinvent the gameplay and throw everything you knew about it out the window

    this is only the second splatoon game it's far too early to reinvent the wheel and make the game something unrecognizable from the first game

    no, to be a real sequel it needs to have a create your own house and raise a pet modes, and also a menu based combat thrown in there for maximum fun.
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