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The future of classic 2D Metroid rests on the support of consumers, according to the September 2017 issue of Game Informer magazine, in an article with series producer Yoshio Sakamoto. Sakamoto-san expresses that he would love to work on another 2D Metroid title, but it comes down to whether or not fans will be willing to buy Metroid: Samus Returns.
“Through the development of Metroid: Samus Returns, I was able to really grasp the possibility and fun of a 2D Metroid. Like when I finished the first game, if there is another opportunity to make another Metroid, that is something that I would love to do. Of course, that really depends on how much people really want to buy a 2D Metroid.” https://shinesparkers.net/the-future-of-2d-metroid-to-be-determined-by-sales-of-samus-returns/ The future of 2D Metroid rests in YOUR hands. Don't let Samus down!
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Considering how long it took for us to get a new 2D Metriod this probably is actually true.
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that statement right there is one of the things companies say that make me NOT want to get the game and it really pisses me off when companies do say it its not the consumers job to support you its your job to bring out a product the consumers want to buy and everything i have heard about the game makes it look like a game i would never want to touch
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Not surprising that he said this. Sales of 2D Metroid games have been on a decline. Fusion was only slightly higher due to the eight year hiatus, but then the following 2D game, Metroid: Zero Mission fell flat on its face by not even breaking one million copies sold, which prompted another hiatus. It's time for the Metroid fanbase to put up or shut up.
Safe to say one million is the goal for Samus Returns, but we will never know.
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I'll miss 2D Metroid a lot, but oh well. I doubt the game is going to sell well enough to justify keeping this part of the series alive. And that was before the whole Amiibo thing which has turned some fans and potential buyers away from purchasing the game at all.
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You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter.
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GrnFzzTgr posted...
You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter. I miss Dead Space but I want going to buy the garbage that was Dead Space 3 just to keep the series alive. Now I'm not saying that Samus Returns itself is garbage, I think the game actually looks great. But it includes really shady business practices that I refuse to support at all.
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Why is this news? This is the case with every single IP ever, especially new ones or ones coming off of a hiatus. They need to see some evidence that making more would be profitable. Did you really think that if this game binned Nintendo would green light more like it?
Some people act like developers owe us games. That's not the case; it's a business. They aren't going to be gung-ho to invest a ton of money in an IP that's proven to not sell. I need any case, it's not like Metroid will be sent to the graveyard over this game. Prime 4 is still on the way. SymphonicGlory posted... GrnFzzTgr posted...You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter. If that's your stance, stand by it. More power to you. But I'll be the first to tell you that I think it's just silly stubbornness. You say the game looks great, but you won't enjoy it over some moral high ground about Amiibo? Your loss I guess. You're totally free to buy or not buy based on whatever criteria you want, but I honestly don't think you're going to make any difference. The Amiibo will sell like hotcakes and the game will sell too. You'll be sticking your nose up over principal while the rest of us are having fun. Again, nothing wrong if that's your choice, but I think it's silly. Ill be getting the Amiibo and I won't even bother touching hard mode or whatever.
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Of course the amiibo will sell like hot cakes. All 100 of them.
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Jack_the_monke7 posted...
Why is this news? This is the case with every single IP ever, especially new ones or ones coming off of a hiatus. They need to see some evidence that making more would be profitable. Did you really think that if this game binned Nintendo would green light more like it? I know I won't make a difference, but I refuse to support s***ty business practices regardless. It's why I don't even buy games from publishers/developers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, etc. because I don't care for their practices. I don't want to be partially responsible for making the gaming industry even worse than it already is, even if my actions are miniscule in the big picture. I vote with my wallet at every opportunity.
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My response to Nintendo's ultimatum?
"If you wanted people to buy it, you shouldn't have hired Mercury Steam to develop it." Seriously, Mercury Steam is very close to killing off Metroidvanias entirely. They already singlehandedly killed Castlevania, and with this news Metroid is next. This is why hiring a dev team whose CEO hates a specific genre to make games of that genre is a terrible, terrible idea. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to convince other Metroidvania-style game devs that they can do it better than the original devs can, and proceed to $#@% up on purpose, JUST to kill off the genre entirely, including indie games. $#%@ you, Mercury Steam. |
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I would pay more money for a Metroid game with all Hard modes available but unfortunately I won't buy a Metroid game that supports hiding such functionality behind amiibos man, even if it costs our beloved Metroid franchise. Sorry.
Also, what the above poster said. Yeah, f*** Mercury Steam. f*** Konami for s***ting on IGA. And f*** Crapcom, regardless of Inafune.
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Wait, would someone be willing to fill me in on the amiibo thing? I'm so behind.
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Go_Totodile posted...
Wait, would someone be willing to fill me in on the amiibo thing? I'm so behind. A sound test, art gallery and the hardest difficulty, fusion suit mode, are amiibo only |
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As far as this Metroid is concerned, Nintendo made Fusion Hard mode available only through the amiibo. Like a DLC limited in supply.
The concern is: where is this going and when it will stop? Some people suggested boycotting amiibo but supporting the franchise by buying the Metroid game but this won't work, so we're stuck. I personally won't buy this game and I think this is the lesser evil possible thus far. In the end it will be meaningless but I'll look back to this day hopefully knowing I did the right thing. |
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I hate developers. They always do this bulls***. "If this remake of a s***ty 20+ year old game doesn't sell, obviously nobody likes the entire series"
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Lame predictable response/tactic... Maybe they should've thought about that prior to infesting the game with amibo bulls***.
The only way to keep Metroid alive is them producing consistently good games, regularly. What have they done with the IP in this past 10 years? 2 f***ing abysmal games... one of which being so out of touch with what the series is about, it's ridiculous. A monkey could've told them greenlighting that s*** would be a complete waste of time and resources. Trying to blame the consumer for their own neglect and mishandlings is absurd. |
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You guys got this. Ain't gonna support a company that locks a feature behind a toy they won't produce past a certain number. My sale won't make a difference and I have a backlog I can always go back to. And there's bound to be some used copies down the road, I'll get one of those eventually.
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Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco.
And this is coming from a huge 2D Metroid fan. |
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MrPerson01 posted...
Not surprising that he said this. Sales of 2D Metroid games have been on a decline. Fusion was only slightly higher due to the eight year hiatus, but then the following 2D game, Metroid: Zero Mission fell flat on its face by not even breaking one million copies sold, which prompted another hiatus. It's time for the Metroid fanbase to put up or shut up. Metriod is a niche title what do people expect
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In this thread people prefer to let their favorite franchise to die as a mere attempt to stop a practice which will still exist in the future no matter what.
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GrnFzzTgr posted...
You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter. Exactly. Especially when they're just butt hurt over a comment. If people like Metroid, get the damn game. It may not be the best one, but not every game has to be the "best in the series" to warrant buying it
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Assassin2713 posted...
GrnFzzTgr posted...You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter. It's not our responsibility as the consumer to keep the series alive. It's the developers/publishers job to make a game that is good enough to make people want to buy it.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
Assassin2713 posted...GrnFzzTgr posted...You'll miss it so much that you won't support it when it actually counts, sure. That's what I want to say to people who claim they care about the series but then threaten to boycott it when things like this matter. This. We're under no obligation whatsoever to buy a game just because it happens to have the word Metroid slapped on the boxart. |
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
This. We're under no obligation whatsoever to buy a game just because it happens to have the word Metroid slapped on the boxart. In all fairness, Metroid fans have been begging for the series to be revived, and there's a good chance that this is a good game worth buying, anyway.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
Assassin2713 posted... And the game so far is looking to be very good, so what?
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Nobn posted...
Trying to blame the consumer for their own neglect and mishandlings is absurd. Not really. Metroid sales have been on a downward trend from Metroid's release to Super Metroid's release. There was a slight bump after the hiatus for Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion, then it went back to a downward trend to the point where Zero Mission, arguably one of the best 2D games, didn't even break one million sales. SpinoRaptor24 posted... Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. Funny, because I'm pretty sure most 2D Metroid fans do not care about the features that are locked behind the amiibo since they were only in one 2D Metroid game.
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21_21 posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...This. We're under no obligation whatsoever to buy a game just because it happens to have the word Metroid slapped on the boxart. It could be good. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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Why don't they try and turn metroid into an anime or something if the 2d games come up a swing and a miss.
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6-19-7 posted...
SymphonicGlory posted...Assassin2713 posted... Yes the game looks good, but the business practices involved with it are terrible.
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ecylis posted...
Go_Totodile posted...Wait, would someone be willing to fill me in on the amiibo thing? I'm so behind. Well that f***ing sucks. We all know Nintendo is too f***ing horrible st stocking amiibo to make this even remotely fair. Scalpers will be all over this. With that said, however, boycotting to "prove a point" won't work because I don't think Nintendo has ever cared about that stuff. I'll probably get the game but not the amiibo. I want more 2D metroid |
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I'm buying it for sure but who knows how well it needs to sell to be considered successful enough for them to continue making them...
3 million would make it the best selling game in the series so far, pretty sad if it can't sell that many considering how many copies a lot of garbage games sell... guess we'll see.
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Well I preordered mine so they can start the development meetings up :)
Edit: Guys, just don't get the stupid Amiibo. I won't die if I can't have an art gallery. Plus if you really want a super hard mode maybe you can gimp Samus by removing weapons or something and do it that way.
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SpinoRaptor24 posted...
Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. If you're turned off the game by a bloody plastic toy, you were never a huge fan in the first place
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. This, and it's not hard to trick the game with an amiibo since they are just plastic toys with NFC tags.
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"To experience the full game and all of the content, you need to buy the game AND $50 worth of plastic junk that is, by the way, sold out and unavailable at MSRP."
AND "It's your fault if the series now fails." Welp, I guess the series is gonna fail, because if I have to save it by buying not just the game but all the crappy merch...yeah, no.
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Go_Totodile posted...
Well that f***ing sucks. We all know Nintendo is too f***ing horrible st stocking amiibo to make this even remotely fair. Scalpers will be all over this. irulethegalaxy posted... "To experience the full game and all of the content, you need to buy the game AND $50 worth of plastic junk that is, by the way, sold out and unavailable at MSRP." https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/us/po/browse/subcategory.jsp?categoryId=cat860034 The Alm+Celica Dual Pack set, which is literally used for a similar unlock as the Metroid Dual Pack set, is still readily available, along with the Smash Bros. Samus and ZSS amiibos. What's to say that the Metroid dual pack set won't be readily available after they are officially released? |
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. Lol at completely missing the point and thinking that you get to decide what the criteria for bring a fan is.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
MushroomMuncher posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. I can damn well tell you wanting the series to be dead just because of hunks of plastic doesn't fit that criteria either
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. We didn't say we want the series dead. There's a difference between that and not letting Nintendo hold us hostage by threatening to shelve the series if we don't accept their garbage policies. If you can't understand the difference there, I can't help you.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. "We" Clearly you have no care if the series dies because of hunks of plastic, and clearly you care about the McDonald's toys more than the game itself. Garbage policies or not, you clearly don't care about the series that much to attempt and pull this s***
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...SpinoRaptor24 posted...Like anybody wants another 2D Metroid after what these clowns did with the whole amiibo fiasco. It's not the toys themselves, but that content is being removed from the game and locked behind said toys. I do care if the series survives, but I put my values and principles in regards to gaming and as a consumer above any and all series I care about. Treat the consumer like dirt with a product/game and I won't buy it. It's that simple. It's not the consumers job to save Metroid, that's on Nintendo. I'd be buying Samus Returns day 1 if they weren't pull this nonsense with the amiibos.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
It's not the toys themselves, but that content is being removed from the game and locked behind said toys. I do care if the sites survives, but I put my values and principles in regards to gaming and as a consumer above any and series I care about. Treat the consumer like dirt with a product/game and I won't but it. It's that simple. It's not the consumers job to save Metroid, that's on Nintendo. I'd be buying Samus Returns day 1 if they weren't pull this nonsense with the amiibos. It is the consumer's job to save Metroid after the games have sold underwhelmingly. Nintendo's not gonna keep pumping out Metroid games if people don't put their money where their mouth is. You can whine about Amiibos all you want, but this is the first non-s*** looking Metroid game in a decade. If you're refusing to buy it all based on principle of McDonald's toys, then the game is itself is clearly not the priority here. I refuse to go back to 7 more years of people whining how dead Metroid is.
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SymphonicGlory posted...It's not the toys themselves, but that content is being removed from the game and locked behind said toys. I do care if the sites survives, but I put my values and principles in regards to gaming and as a consumer above any and series I care about. Treat the consumer like dirt with a product/game and I won't but it. It's that simple. It's not the consumers job to save Metroid, that's on Nintendo. I'd be buying Samus Returns day 1 if they weren't pull this nonsense with the amiibos. No, the consumer isn't responsible for saving Metroid. That is on Nintendo. Put out a product that people want. Some people don't want a product hampered with the bulls*** of amiibos locking away content from the game and have every right not to support the game for that reason. If Samus Returns down sell well enough, Nintendo only has themselves to blame.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...It's not the toys themselves, but that content is being removed from the game and locked behind said toys. I do care if the sites survives, but I put my values and principles in regards to gaming and as a consumer above any and series I care about. Treat the consumer like dirt with a product/game and I won't but it. It's that simple. It's not the consumers job to save Metroid, that's on Nintendo. I'd be buying Samus Returns day 1 if they weren't pull this nonsense with the amiibos. No I'm going to blame the consumer for being so assblasted over hunks of plastic not to buy it instead of being an actually good game Especially when SOME of those people have been begging for a good Metroid game for years...
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Durric posted...
Of course the amiibo will sell like hot cakes. All 100 of them. Besides retailer exclusives when has there been any hard to find new amiibos in the past year or two? I think it's the having to buy a 2 pack to get the Metroid amiibo for the Fusion Mode that has people upset, not any perceived rarity of the amiibos.
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
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iMURDAu posted...
Durric posted...Of course the amiibo will sell like hot cakes. All 100 of them. While I don't like or condone hiding the art and music galleries behind amiibos, it's the Fusion mode that pushed things too far. I would've been willing to compromise in this situation and buy the game if it was just typical unlockables, but an entire mode? No. That's going too far for me.
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SymphonicGlory posted...
How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said. All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it? I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
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MushroomMuncher posted...
SymphonicGlory posted...How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said. I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
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Thinking on it more and reading other people's opinions on this topic, I've kinda changed my mind and now hope that this game is not very successful, or at least not enough to make Nintendo think that they can make even more content locked away behind amiibo in their future games. It almost seems like Nintendo/Sakamoto have made this statement to get people to buy the game even if they do not like the way the amiibo-locked content works.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!(edited 1 week ago)SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it?
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
Well clearly you're not as big as you make yourself out to be considering you're more interested in stopping Amiibos than potential future games in the series.
Also no where did I say I'm giving in to Nintendo. I own 1 Amiibo that was given to me as a gift, and that's more than enough to use Amiiqo/NFC tags. I'm also not boycotting a series i say I love because of them eitherSurely you jestin'(edited 1 week ago)MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it?
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
Well clearly your not as big as you make yourself out to be considering you're more interested in stopping Amiibos than potential future games in the series.
Also no where did I say I'm giving in to Nintendo. I own 1 Amiibo that was given to me as a gift, and that's more than enough to use Amiiqo/NFC tags. I'm also not boycotting a series i say I love because of them either
You can love something and still not be an enabler for bulls***. It's not rocket science.FC: 5112-4220-0277SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it?
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
Well clearly your not as big as you make yourself out to be considering you're more interested in stopping Amiibos than potential future games in the series.
Also no where did I say I'm giving in to Nintendo. I own 1 Amiibo that was given to me as a gift, and that's more than enough to use Amiiqo/NFC tags. I'm also not boycotting a series i say I love because of them either
You can love something and still not be an enabler for bulls***. It's not rocket science.
So its like holding the thing you love over a pool of sharks until the enemy gives in to your demand, while they have a thousand machine guns pointed at your headSurely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it?
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
Well clearly your not as big as you make yourself out to be considering you're more interested in stopping Amiibos than potential future games in the series.
Also no where did I say I'm giving in to Nintendo. I own 1 Amiibo that was given to me as a gift, and that's more than enough to use Amiiqo/NFC tags. I'm also not boycotting a series i say I love because of them either
You can love something and still not be an enabler for bulls***. It's not rocket science.
So its like holding the thing you love over a pool of sharks until the enemy gives in to your demand, while they have a thousand machine guns pointed at your head
No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.FC: 5112-4220-0277SymphonicGlory posted...No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."Surely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."
A gross and ridiculous exaggeration, but yes, it sucks to be Nintendo and fans of the series if Nintendo causes Metroid to fail.FC: 5112-4220-0277Of course anyone who doesn't want to buy the game ASAP can live without it. If Metroid has to be sacrificed to make Nintendo realise locking away on-card content behind amiibo is a bad thing for them and for us, then so be it.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."
A gross and ridiculous exaggeration, but yes, it sucks to be Nintendo and fans of the series if Nintendo causes Metroid to fail.
Well there you go, you just proved you barely care about it in the first place and are willing to let other Metroid fans suffer.
Its all your fault
Solibrae posted...If Metroid has to be sacrificed to make Nintendo realise locking away on-card content behind amiibo is a bad thing for them and for us, then so be it.
One game is not gonna show Nintendo anything, you're fighting an uphill battle hereSurely you jestin'(edited 1 week ago)MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
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No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."
A gross and ridiculous exaggeration, but yes, it sucks to be Nintendo and fans of the series if Nintendo causes Metroid to fail.
Well there you go, you just proved you barely care about it in the first and are willing to let other Metroid fans suffer.
Its all your fault
It's Nintendo's fault for putting in all this amiibo-locked content in the first place. If they did not do this then not many people would be complaining or changing their mind about buying the game. It's their game and their responsibility to get people to want to buy it.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!Solibrae posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."
A gross and ridiculous exaggeration, but yes, it sucks to be Nintendo and fans of the series if Nintendo causes Metroid to fail.
Well there you go, you just proved you barely care about it in the first and are willing to let other Metroid fans suffer.
Its all your fault
It's Nintendo's fault for putting in all this amiibo-locked content in the first place. If they did not do this then not many people would be complaining or changing their mind about buying the game. It's their game and their responsibility to get people to want to buy it.
Actually its your fault considering you're more interested in what the Amiibo do than the game itself. Samus Returns could get a 100 on Metacritic but if you're still not buying it because of the Amiibo that's all on youSurely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...One game is not gonna show Nintendo anything, you're fighting an uphill battle here
True, it might not make a difference. But if Nintendo keeps trying this and more people stop buying those games, then they might eventually get the message. I've pre-ordered games in the past like this, such as Kirby Planet Robobot and Breath of the Wild and enjoyed them a lot, but eventually my patience with this amiibo-locked content has come to an end.
MushroomMuncher posted...Actually its your fault considering you're more interested in what the Amiibo do than the game itself. Samus Returns could get a 100 on Metacritic but if you're still not buying it because of the Amiibo that's all on you
I don't care about Metacritic scores, I care about my own values and standards for a game, which Metroid: Samus Returns does not satisify enough to make me want to buy it brand new.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
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No it's more like giving tough love to someone you care about when they are acting like a s***head. Will it definitely work? Maybe, maybe not. But it's better than just enabling them to carry on as is.
tough love is an understatement. Its more like "I'll shove you in a pack of wolves to fix your attitude. If you die, well sucks to be you, I can live without you."
A gross and ridiculous exaggeration, but yes, it sucks to be Nintendo and fans of the series if Nintendo causes Metroid to fail.
Well there you go, you just proved you barely care about it in the first and are willing to let other Metroid fans suffer.
Its all your fault
Lol that's not how logic our proving anything works. I already said that I care about Metroid a lot, but it's not my job to keep it alive if Nintendo wants to screw customers over. You are purposefully ignoring everything I've said. That or you are dumber than a doorknob and don't understand that things aren't black or white.
As a last chance to get this across to you, I bring up Dead Space. I thoroughly enjoyed the first two games and for a time it was a franchise that I tasted very highly. EA insisted on shoving anti-consumer policies into the game asking with other stuff. They then said that the game had to sell well or they would shelve the series. An I supposed to put up with that just because I care about the series? No. As a consumer I can tell EA into f*** off even if it means losing something I care about. To be fair, it doesn't help that EA's meddling in the game made it into an objectively poor game, but even if it had been great, I soul wouldn't have bought it.
If a sports team I root for doesn't live up to my expectations as a fan, yo'rer damn right I'm going to stop giving them my money until they get their act together. They don't have to win a title every year, but if they insist on being terrible in every aspect and show no ambition why should I give them money and enable the management of the franchise to continue on as they are?
If you still don't get it after all this, I simply can't help you.FC: 5112-4220-0277Solibrae posted...I don't care about Metacritic scores, I care about my own values and standards for a game, which Metroid: Samus Returns does not satisify enough to make me want to buy it brand new.
Well there you go, its all on you. You didn't let BOTW or Robobot Amiibo BS get in your way of buying the games. Its your money, you decide what to do with it.But if Nintendo keeps trying this and more people stop buying those games, then they might eventually get the message.
>Nintendo
>Getting the message
>Greentexting on GameFAQs
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SymphonicGlory posted...As a last chance to get this across to you, I bring up Dead Space. I thoroughly enjoyed the first two games and for a time it was a franchise that I tasted very highly. EA insisted on shoving anti-consumer policies into the game asking with other stuff. They then said that the game had to sell well or they would shelve the series. An I supposed to put up with that just because I care about the series? No. As a consumer I can tell EA into f*** off even if it means losing something I care about. To be fair, it doesn't help that EA's meddling in the game made it into an objectively poor game, but even if it had been great, I soul wouldn't have bought it.
There's the thing. You obviously care more about practices instead of the game itself. It doesn't matter how good the game is, you really seem adamant on the practices more than the franchise you claim you love. I don't really think that's a way to go about thing IMHO. You do what you do but killing off a franchise just so you don't have deal with the practices anymore is a pretty overkill way of going about things, especially since that company still hasn't stopped to this day and is still making plenty of money. Buuuut Dead Space 3 also being complete ass compared to the previous 2 in gameplay also was probably for the best to be honest.
I'm just saying, Samus Returns is the first good looking Metroid game in a decade. I really don't wanna lose this chance again over some bloody toys.Surely you jestin'(edited 1 week ago)You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.FC: 5112-4220-0277(edited 1 week ago)SymphonicGlory posted...You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?Surely you jestin'Goodbye, Metroid, you had a good run.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?
Nintendo is treating their consumers poorly, even holding an entire series hostage to justify their practices. So yes, I'm willing to let go of Metroid if Nintendo wants to treat me like this. Treat me right as a consumer and I'll shower you with my money. Do wrong by me, especially like this, and you won't get a penny from me.FC: 5112-4220-0277SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?
Nintendo is treating their consumers poorly, even holding an entire series hostage to justify their practices. So yes, I'm willing to let go of Metroid if Nintendo wants to treat me like this. Treat me right as a consumer and I'll shower you with my money. Do wrong by me, especially like this, and you won't get a penny from me.
I think you're overblowing things a bit.
You seem to think they're basing things off the Amiibos. No, they just want the game to sell well. You don't HAVE to buy the bloody amiibos. Killing Metroid is not the best way to go about things, especially since this is the first potential good game in a decadeSurely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...SymphonicGlory posted...
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You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?
Nintendo is treating their consumers poorly, even holding an entire series hostage to justify their practices. So yes, I'm willing to let go of Metroid if Nintendo wants to treat me like this. Treat me right as a consumer and I'll shower you with my money. Do wrong by me, especially like this, and you won't get a penny from me.
I think you're overblowing things a bit.
You seem to think they're basing things off the Amiibos. No, they just want the game to sell well. You don't HAVE to buy the bloody amiibos. Killing Metroid is not the best way to go about things, especially since this is the first potential good game in a decade
Nintendo knows full well that is is doing. I'm not denying that it isn't the first potentially good Metroid have in a long time, but Nintendo is still treating their customers like dirt with the policies surrounding the game.FC: 5112-4220-0277SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?
Nintendo is treating their consumers poorly, even holding an entire series hostage to justify their practices. So yes, I'm willing to let go of Metroid if Nintendo wants to treat me like this. Treat me right as a consumer and I'll shower you with my money. Do wrong by me, especially like this, and you won't get a penny from me.
I think you're overblowing things a bit.
You seem to think they're basing things off the Amiibos. No, they just want the game to sell well. You don't HAVE to buy the bloody amiibos. Killing Metroid is not the best way to go about things, especially since this is the first potential good game in a decade
Nintendo knows full well that is is doing. I'm not denying that it isn't the first potentially good Metroid have in a long time, but Nintendo is still treating their customers like dirt with the policies surrounding the game.
Let's not get into tinfoil hat territory here. I think they just want a Metroid game to actually sell.
Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that nowSurely you jestin'How many amiibos do I need to buy to complete late the game?If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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You think I'm happy about this? I was INCREDIBLY excited for Samus Returns. It made E3 for me. I don't want to see Metroid die, but I'm not playing Nintendo's game of holding the franchise hostage to get away with their bulls***. As such, the game, as an overall product, doesn't meet my standards. It's very disappointing, but unless Fusion mode turns out to literally be just a skin and not an actual game mode, I can't support the game.
So are you literally only concerned about Fusion mode? You're gonna let one difficulty mode let the decisive factor between whether you feel the franchise should die or not? It makes sense to be upset b-but the whole series?
Nintendo is treating their consumers poorly, even holding an entire series hostage to justify their practices. So yes, I'm willing to let go of Metroid if Nintendo wants to treat me like this. Treat me right as a consumer and I'll shower you with my money. Do wrong by me, especially like this, and you won't get a penny from me.
I think you're overblowing things a bit.
You seem to think they're basing things off the Amiibos. No, they just want the game to sell well. You don't HAVE to buy the bloody amiibos. Killing Metroid is not the best way to go about things, especially since this is the first potential good game in a decade
Nintendo knows full well that is is doing. I'm not denying that it isn't the first potentially good Metroid have in a long time, but Nintendo is still treating their customers like dirt with the policies surrounding the game.
I never thought I would agree with you.
This looks like a good game but the way they're treating it, with the amiibo unlocks and the threat, is not a good sign.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.MushroomMuncher posted...Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that now
That is true, and it certainly didn't make me not want to buy them before, but I do feel like Samus Returns has been the worst example yet of amiibo-locked content and that's why I and many other people have changed ours minds about buying it brand new or buying it at all.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!Solibrae posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that now
That is true, and it certainly didn't make me not want to buy them before, but I do feel like Samus Returns has been the worst example yet of amiibo-locked content and that's why I and many other people have changed ours minds about buying it brand new or buying it at all.
This Amiibo practice has been done the exact same way in Twilight Princess HD. The game still sold over a million copies.
There's been worse uses for Amiibos than this, hell look at Amiibo Festival or Zip Lash.Surely you jestin'I hate that Nintendo mostly does new things for the first time with a Metroid release. This will always result in a drop in sales and will eventually be the death of Metroid. Why don't they do it to any other franchise?Take every chance you want to make and fulfill it till the end ~DASHWOOD
15/09/2017 Metroid SR Legacy edition confirmed for me! MSR Amiibo's pre-ordered.MushroomMuncher posted...Solibrae posted...
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Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that now
That is true, and it certainly didn't make me not want to buy them before, but I do feel like Samus Returns has been the worst example yet of amiibo-locked content and that's why I and many other people have changed ours minds about buying it brand new or buying it at all.
This Amiibo practice has been done the exact same way in Twilight Princess HD. The game still sold over a million copies.
There's been worse uses for Amiibos than this, hell look at Amiibo Festival or Zip Lash.
They sold the Wolf Link amiibo with the game.
You have to buy the amiibos separately from the game for MII:SR.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Blayshy posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that now
That is true, and it certainly didn't make me not want to buy them before, but I do feel like Samus Returns has been the worst example yet of amiibo-locked content and that's why I and many other people have changed ours minds about buying it brand new or buying it at all.
This Amiibo practice has been done the exact same way in Twilight Princess HD. The game still sold over a million copies.
There's been worse uses for Amiibos than this, hell look at Amiibo Festival or Zip Lash.
They sold the Wolf Link amiibo with the game.
You have to buy the amiibos separately from the game for MII:SR.
It wasn't just the Wolf Amiibo. TP HD also had a harder difficulty mode locked behind the Ganondorf AmiiboSurely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...Blayshy posted...
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Its not like Amiibo practices affect sales of their previous games, why would they think that now
That is true, and it certainly didn't make me not want to buy them before, but I do feel like Samus Returns has been the worst example yet of amiibo-locked content and that's why I and many other people have changed ours minds about buying it brand new or buying it at all.
This Amiibo practice has been done the exact same way in Twilight Princess HD. The game still sold over a million copies.
There's been worse uses for Amiibos than this, hell look at Amiibo Festival or Zip Lash.
They sold the Wolf Link amiibo with the game.
You have to buy the amiibos separately from the game for MII:SR.
It wasn't just the Wolf Amiibo. TP HD also had a harder difficulty mode locked behind the Ganondorf Amiibo
Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.MushroomMuncher posted...This Amiibo practice has been done the exact same way in Twilight Princess HD. The game still sold over a million copies.
There's been worse uses for Amiibos than this, hell look at Amiibo Festival or Zip Lash.
This has been going on for quite a while. Those games do have a fair bit of amiibo only content too, but as I do not own them I did not have an opinion on their amiibo compatibility before doing some research. I still think Samus Returns is a bit worse because it supports 4 different amiibo that each do a different and unique thing in the game, and unlike Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival it wasn't made and advertised as being a purely amiibo-driven experience.
Other games get made and sold for one price that have all their already created features available to anyone that buys the game, so why does Nintendo need to do this amiibo stuff? Well, I don't think they do. They're either being greedy or are worried that this game won't sell well and want to get more money off amiibo to make up for that. If it's the latter, then they might have just written their own Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.Hoping for Mega Man X9 and/or a third Mega Man ZX to be announced in 2017. Come on Capcom, finish those cliffhangers!(edited 1 week ago)Blayshy posted...Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.
That basically a harder mode of the game. Samus Returns reportedly also has a hard mode but Fusion mode is supposed to make it even harder. Literally barely any differenceSurely you jestin'MushroomMuncher posted...Blayshy posted...
Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.
That basically a harder mode of the game. Samus Returns reportedly also has a hard mode but Fusion mode is supposed to make it even harder. Literally barely any difference
Except it's not an actual mode like Fusion Mode. It only changes the level of damage. That's it.
While Fusion Mode have aesthetic changes as well.
Also, Ganondorf's amiibo is easily obtainable online while the two Metroid amiibos are only in the pack and you need to pre-order it.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Blayshy posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.
That basically a harder mode of the game. Samus Returns reportedly also has a hard mode but Fusion mode is supposed to make it even harder. Literally barely any difference
Except it's not an actual mode like Fusion Mode. It only changes the level of damage. That's it.
While Fusion Mode have aesthetic changes as well.
Also, Ganondorf's amiibo is easily obtainable online while the two Metroid amiibos are only in the pack and you need to pre-order it.
Uh what do you think most hard modes in games do? Most of them do just that. It IS basically a harder mode. Plus the cosmetic changes are minor in SR, all it does is change your suit's color as far as we know. Also of course Ganondorf is easily obtainable, its been out for years, while SR's is brand new. Although I can't explain the 2-pack thing, thats just stupid.
Solibrae posted...They're either being greedy or are worried that this game won't sell well and want to get more money off amiibo to make up for that. If it's the latter, then they might have just written their own Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.
I expect a lot of people to blame the game's sales on the Amiibo, which considering in the past they've barely done anything to affect a game's sales I don't see it happening. If the game sells poorly it'll either be because the 3DS is on its last legs or it'll be an example of people not putting their money where their mouth is. Or Metroid really IS a niche franchiseSurely you jestin'(edited 1 week ago)Blayshy posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.
That basically a harder mode of the game. Samus Returns reportedly also has a hard mode but Fusion mode is supposed to make it even harder. Literally barely any difference
Except it's not an actual mode like Fusion Mode. It only changes the level of damage. That's it.
While Fusion Mode have aesthetic changes as well.
Also, Ganondorf's amiibo is easily obtainable online while the two Metroid amiibos are only in the pack and you need to pre-order it.
Not a native english speaker - Post-ALBW Zelda detractor - If you're not a Metroid fan and don't give any form of support to it, you are my enemy6-19-7 posted...Blayshy posted...
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Except not. Hero Mode is included with the game.
The Ganondorf amiibo only amplified the damage received (which is not exactly much). It's not necessary.
That basically a harder mode of the game. Samus Returns reportedly also has a hard mode but Fusion mode is supposed to make it even harder. Literally barely any difference
Except it's not an actual mode like Fusion Mode. It only changes the level of damage. That's it.
While Fusion Mode have aesthetic changes as well.
Also, Ganondorf's amiibo is easily obtainable online while the two Metroid amiibos are only in the pack and you need to pre-order it.
There's no strawman here.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.ediotsavant posted...How many amiibos do I need to buy to complete late the game?
None. Oh, how many do you need to buy to have access to everything? Still none. You can buy the Amiibos, find a friend that has the Amiibos, get a bunch of people together with the Amiibos, pay someone with the Amiibos the money to buy the game and unlock the BONUS content for you and mail you the game.
Every single game Nintendo has put out with content unlockable with an Amiibo has locked content with Amiibo. This is no different.
You have every right to vote with your dollar, be my guest. Just be consistent.Serious gamers take themselves way too seriously.Blayshy posted...Also, Ganondorf's amiibo is easily obtainable online while the two Metroid amiibos are only in the pack and you need to pre-order it.
And who's to say that the Metroid amiibos won't be readily available online after their release? You really can't go off availability for amiibos based on their pre-order status.SymphonicGlory posted...MushroomMuncher posted...
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How dense are you to not understand that it's not the Amiibos by themselves, but the content being locked behind them? How many times to I need to explain this to you? At this point you are being willfully ignorant of what is being said.
All the s*** being locked away is bonus stuff. Its not locking away anything in the main game itself. The only one that makes any sense to be angry is the Fusion Mode, which is Very Hard mode, which i'm not even sure how many previous Metroid games had a Very Hard mode (I know they had a Hard mode). But the Concept Gallery and the Sound Test? Does anyone look at that stuff for more than 5 minutes? Seriously. Do we really need to boycott the game because of it?
I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your money, but don't sit there and tell me you're a big Metroid fan and sit there and boycott this game over that s***.
I am a big Metroid fan, you don't get decide if I or anyone else is a big fan of the series. Just because you're willing to give into Nintendo doesn't mean we all have to. Nintendo has to earn each individual's money. For me, other fans, and even newcomers to the series, they are failing to do that.
I always find it strange there's so many "big fans" of series that seem to be extremely willing to avoid getting a game at the drop of a hat.'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995(edited 1 week ago)Take it from a F-Zero fan, you guys do not want to see one of your favorite series die for good....Apocalyptic posted...Take it from a F-Zero fan, you guys do not want to see one of your favorite series die for good.
For the most part, Nintendo doesn't really kill off most of their franchises. Certainly not the ones that make them a decent chunk of money. Look how long it took Kid Icarus to get a new game.
Pikmin isn't uber popular and it does well enough.
Earthbound is finished, we're all just waiting for the final game to come out in the west and it's a cult classic.
Metroid does decently, it's just not hyper popular like Mario, Pokemon and Zelda.
Unless it takes a straight nosedive, I don't think it'll die out anytime soon.
The only ones that I can think of that have died are Wild Gunmen, Hogan's Alley, Duck Hunt, StarTropics, Balloon Fight and Ice Climber and anything to do with specific gimmicks like Rob games and gamepad games.
You never know, we may see a surprise revival out of nowhere like we did with Kid Icarus.
Or it may evolve like Donkey Kong and their old sports games.I'm a chick(edited 1 week ago)I refuse to get the amiibo, but I'm not boycotting the game because:
The artwork will probably be posted online. If not, then oh well. It's nice, but not the reason I play these games.
The soundtrack will most likely be uploaded to YouTube. Even if it's not, I can listen to them in-game and possibly rip them myself.
The only thing that actually impacts the gameplay is Fusion mode and, if past games are anything to go by, I'm willing to bet that neither of the hard modes will alter anything other damage outputs, which essentially amounts to "get hit less and shoot for a bit longer". Other than that, the game looks to be a complete experience.
Boycotting this game won't do anything to convince Nintendo to not utilize amiibo in the way that they have been. They'll continue locking content behind them in their more popular games and people will continue to buy them to unlock that content. People will also buy amiibo simply to collect them. If you really want to make a difference, stop buying Nintendo products period and convince enough people to do the same.
Boycotting this game won't stop Nintendo from sabotaging fan projects.
The only thing boycotting this game will prove is that even the niche audience that 2D Metroid appeals to doesn't think the game is good enough to overlook the locking of largely inconsequential bonus content behind amiibo and that production of future 2D titles is probably not worth the risk. That is assuming enough of us choose to not buy it.
I'm not telling you to buy the game even if you think it looks bad, but to consider what it is that you'd actually be missing out on by not having amiibo and that boycotting this won't have the effect that you think it will.Apocalyptic posted...Take it from a F-Zero fan, you guys do not want to see one of your favorite series die for good.
It's been for-good dead for years now, mate, they've just let some clowns parade its corpse around on a stick.
Like people are whining about "oh boo-hoo a toy has a mode that offers no significant differences attached to it that I'd never play anyway." That's not the Samus Returns issue, the issue is that it's in the hands of the people who made Mirror of Fate and the guy who made a self-insert military superior for Samus to act all subby towards. Y'all worried about Fusion mode when you should be worried about the hands it's in, because you're absolutely about to go buy Other M 2.
I'll absolutely take a dead franchise over a franchise continually spearheaded by the guy who boasts about having a ROM of Super Metroid with a more erotic-sounding death cry, I assure you.By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings.Well guess this is the end of the series then
Zohar_Metatron posted...I'll absolutely take a dead franchise over a franchise continually spearheaded by the guy who boasts about having a ROM of Super Metroid with a more erotic-sounding death cry, I assure you.
The hellThat some nice sweet juicy gigatosis!
Mario Kart 8 HD, 4.9 GIGS! 500 hour game! Do the math! - awesomenintendo(edited 1 week ago)Apocalyptic posted...The future of classic 2D Metroid rests on the support of consumers, according to the September 2017 issue of Game Informer magazine, in an article with series producer Yoshio Sakamoto. Sakamoto-san expresses that he would love to work on another 2D Metroid title, but it comes down to whether or not fans will be willing to buy Metroid: Samus Returns.
“Through the development of Metroid: Samus Returns, I was able to really grasp the possibility and fun of a 2D Metroid. Like when I finished the first game, if there is another opportunity to make another Metroid, that is something that I would love to do. Of course, that really depends on how much people really want to buy a 2D Metroid.”
https://shinesparkers.net/the-future-of-2d-metroid-to-be-determined-by-sales-of-samus-returns/
The future of 2D Metroid rests in YOUR hands. Don't let Samus down!
Actually, it isnt. It's in MERCURY STEAM'S hands. If they make a s***ty game, they let Samus down.Mediocre_Dunce posted...Zohar_Metatron posted...
I'll absolutely take a dead franchise over a franchise continually spearheaded by the guy who boasts about having a ROM of Super Metroid with a more erotic-sounding death cry, I assure you.
The hellUh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Samus already gave me Super Metroid.
As far as I'm concerned, she's on her own....and it just so happens that I hate pea soup.
Currently playing: N/AIlovepeasoup posted...Samus already gave me Super Metroid.
As far as I'm concerned, she's on her own.
????????Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
-Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer.Blayshy posted...Ilovepeasoup posted...
Samus already gave me Super Metroid.
As far as I'm concerned, she's on her own.
????????
That's a colloquial way of saying I'm not going to purchase this game....and it just so happens that I hate pea soup.
Currently playing: N/Ahellhammer posted...Apocalyptic posted...
The future of classic 2D Metroid rests on the support of consumers, according to the September 2017 issue of Game Informer magazine, in an article with series producer Yoshio Sakamoto. Sakamoto-san expresses that he would love to work on another 2D Metroid title, but it comes down to whether or not fans will be willing to buy Metroid: Samus Returns.
“Through the development of Metroid: Samus Returns, I was able to really grasp the possibility and fun of a 2D Metroid. Like when I finished the first game, if there is another opportunity to make another Metroid, that is something that I would love to do. Of course, that really depends on how much people really want to buy a 2D Metroid.”
https://shinesparkers.net/the-future-of-2d-metroid-to-be-determined-by-sales-of-samus-returns/
The future of 2D Metroid rests in YOUR hands. Don't let Samus down!
Actually, it isnt. It's in MERCURY STEAM'S hands. If they make a s***ty game, they let Samus down.
The point is that if the game is good or great the game succeeding still depends on whether people want to buy a 2D Metroid game. Even If they make a univesally acclaimed game that's liked by the players who did play it the game can still fail if it still doesn't sell well enough.
The part that's in the players hands is proving there is a big enough audience for a good 2D Metroid game. If it's good and nobody buys it or people refuse to buy it there would be no reason to make a new one.'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995theneovega posted...ediotsavant posted...
How many amiibos do I need to buy to complete late the game?
None. Oh, how many do you need to buy to have access to everything? Still none. You can buy the Amiibos, find a friend that has the Amiibos, get a bunch of people together with the Amiibos, pay someone with the Amiibos the money to buy the game and unlock the BONUS content for you and mail you the game.
Every single game Nintendo has put out with content unlockable with an Amiibo has locked content with Amiibo. This is no different.
You have every right to vote with your dollar, be my guest. Just be consistent.
I don't have any friends that play videogames.If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.- Boards
- Nintendo 3DS
- There will be no more 2D Metroid games if Samus Returns does not sell.
- Boards
- Nintendo 3DS
- There will be no more 2D Metroid games if Samus Returns does not sell.
- Boards
- Nintendo 3DS
- There will be no more 2D Metroid games if Samus Returns does not sell.
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