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E3 2017 was exciting for many reasons, but especially when The Pokémon Company International president and CEO Tsunekazu Ishihara announced that Game Freak had started developing a core Pokémon RPG title for Nintendo Switch. Now, Game Freak co-founder Junichi Masuda has spoken about what the future holds for Pokémon, and how excited the team is – not only about Nintendo Switch, but in having the chance to release a Pokémon game on it. “What I’m really curious about, and really excited to see, will be the main way that people play the Switch, Masuda explained to Game Informer, in their September issue. “Will it be home for the most part? Will it be out and about? I think that is really going to depend on where the person lives, maybe. Depending on the country, maybe the main style of playing will be different. As we’ve been saying a lot, we always focus on, when designing the games, thinking about how the player is going to play the game – how they’re going to enjoy it, and what kind of experiences they are going to have. I’m really just kind of excited to see where the main style of playing is going to land.” The Pokémon series has transitioned between platforms before, perhaps, most significantly, between the single-screen Game Boy family of systems to the dual-screen Nintendo DS. But, with Nintendo Switch, that transition perhaps isn’t as straightforward. “It’s definitely different this time,” Masuda acknowledged. “Just playing it at home is kind of a little bit different than the portable systems we’ve made games for up until now.” Game Freak isn’t blind to the overwhelming reaction that the news at E3 2017 was met with, and are certainly listening to feedback from fans as to what they are hoping to see. Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon director Shigeru Ohmori added: “It definitely is really fun to see that, but at the same time, it is definitely a lot of pressure, so we’re going to do our best to create a game that answers those expectations.” Masuda didn’t hesitate to agree, admitting that he hoped expectations from fans weren’t set too high. “Of course, it is very difficult to make the game, so I hope people don’t get their expectations up too high,” Masuda admitted. “We’ll do our best.”
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DracoSpire posted...
I always thought it was gonna be like Colosseum or XD instead of a traditional main Pokémon game anyway. Didn't they claim it was going to be a "core" Pokemon game, though? Wouldn't that mean that it's gonna' be a main series title? Although, I wouldn't be against a game like Colosseum/Gale of Darkness. I love those games.
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lmao "difficult to make"
all the amazing games on much better consoles in recent times and pokémon of all things is apparently "difficult to make" maybe the "difficult" thing is having to raise their standards to that of the games around them, since they've clearly become complacent in recent years on the 3DS
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Etria posted...
"We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!" Zelda wasn't built from the ground-up for Switch though, it's a port of a Wii U game
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Tappor_Koko posted...
Etria posted..."We are having difficulties doing what every other main Nintendo developer is doing: releasing a Switch game. What, Zelda? Shh, we don't what that is....That must have been super difficult!" You know what else was on Wii U? Pokken with super models and lots of trainer customization. It's still no excuse though. That might not have been the best example, but the other series are releasing games for Switch too. Don't see them telling fans it's difficult. |
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dragulas posted...
pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016 You know that Game Freak doesn't get all of that money, right Part of it goes to Nintendo, another part goes to Creatures Inc., and another part goes to The Pokemon Company
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
dragulas posted...pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016 and you know that GameFreak aren't the only ones funding this franchise, right not only that, but the budget for a pokémon game as it is would barely be a fraction of that money, at best we aren't talking top quality anything here but it could be, if they wanted it to - they have the money
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tcsavato posted...
What's with the doom and gloom? It's always like this around here. If you prefer some positivity I suggest the pokemon subreddit
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dragulas posted...pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016 only getting 1/4 of the millions and millions of dollars they've made over the years.... those poor things. i sure hope that's enough to put bread on the table. seriously, let's stop acting like gamefreak doesn't have a crap ton of talent to draw on. it's been stated in multiple interviews that there's a large number of non-gf staff that does work for the main series too. and for it to still be the quality that it is, is pathetic |
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Rad_Dudesman posted...dragulas posted...pokémon sm sold over 12 million copies in 2016 Big budgets are what's killing the game industry
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dragulas posted...
lmao "difficult to make" |
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Lexifox posted...
Why do people think that budget is what's "holding back" Pokemon no one is saying that but when you have pokémon levels of money, how can creating the game be difficult especially a pokémon game
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Not surprised. I enjoyed Sun and Moon but...Gamefreak is having real trouble with the transition to 3D worlds/higher res graphics.
The absolute lack of effort they put into having your avatar show anything other than a crapton of clothing is pretty criminal. And whenever there's a closeup of any character's face outside of a cutscene, it's a pixelated mess. Seriously, they look like something someone built in minecraft. I don't usually nitpick about graphics, but sheesh. Also, here's a big, emotional scene! Your character should be sad! or angry! but instead they stare blandly ahead with a smile on their face like they've been lobotomized.
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
Also I'm pretty sure Masuda is talking about the morons who expect the game to be as big as Skyrim or Breath of the Wild that's a very minuscule section of the fanbase to be referencing in an interview... sounds more to me like he's preemptively making excuses for why it'll be lacking irulethegalaxy posted... instead they stare blandly ahead with a smile on their face like they've been lobotomized. that would explain why all the protags are so quiet
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The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
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dragulas posted...
Lexifox posted...Why do people think that budget is what's "holding back" Pokemon It's almost like when you make a game, a big part of the game is the people behind it instead of how much money you can throw around. Crazy stuff, huh
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Lexifox posted...
It's almost like when you make a game, a big part of the game is the people behind it instead of how much money you can throw around. Crazy stuff, huh and it's almost like the more money you can throw around, the more talent you can afford, the better teams you can create, the less "difficult" things get clearly crazy concepts for some, true
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DracoSpire posted...I always thought it was gonna be like Colosseum or XD instead of a traditional main Pokémon game anyway. That can be interpreted in different ways. While I'm not ruling out that it could be a standard Pokémon game, I'm letting it be known that there are too little details given to make assumptions about it off the bat.
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Rad_Dudesman posted...The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them."..."-Link
I'm actually a deer irl. Real photo of me: https://imgur.com/gallery/sQotWF4TheCraigadile posted...Rad_Dudesman posted...
The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.
outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.I'm guessing it's gonna still look like it was made on the 3DS, most likely reusing assets, but in HD.
I'll buy it definitely (haven't bought a Pokemon game since Y cause it disappointed me) just cause it's the first mainline game that's developed for a non-dedicated handheld consoleR.I.P. Scalebound
Not changing this sig until Capcom brings back Rival Schools or Darkstalkers. Started 4/29/15Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is
More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.
Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.
I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).3DS Friend Code:0044 4173 2062
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With that being said, the fact that he is kind of worried about moving on to a bigger and better console (relatively speaking) is...troublesome. Its not like Pokemon games are made by some small-budget indie company; this is a big team working on a big thing here!
It doesn't need to be absolutely revolutionary, but it doesn't need to be bare-bones either. I can tell the transition to 3D has been difficult for them (or maybe it has made them more lax), but they need to get their s*** together. (Sell it all in s*** stocks, for example.)Creator of Vexus, DSBT InsaniT, and Dreamscape. #SaveWOY
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU7p8mLrIMEWBSJio-0P-vgdragulas posted...and it's almost like the more money you can throw around, the more talent you can afford, the better teams you can create, the less "difficult" things get
clearly crazy concepts for some, true
It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.
Often just makes things worse.Deadinsideman posted...TheCraigadile posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.
outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.
In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
When I was younger, if I wanted something expensive like a Gamecube, I'd have to pay for half of it and would get two games. I always thought that was fair."..."-Link
I'm actually a deer irl. Real photo of me: https://imgur.com/gallery/sQotWF4CloverKitten posted...It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.
no one said you could, but that's the fault of their management techniques, not the game being "difficult to make"
maybe with some more money they could hire someone who knows what the f*** they're doing and hasn't phoned it in with this franchise"We'll cheat, we'll go online, we'll battle and there's NOTHING you can do about it." - calvincfbTheCraigadile posted...Deadinsideman posted...
TheCraigadile posted...
Rad_Dudesman posted...
The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.
outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.
In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
When I was younger, if I wanted something expensive like a Gamecube, I'd have to pay for half of it and would get two games. I always thought that was fair.
15 expensive presents on average huh?
Just when I thought I couldn't despise my parents enough...
CloverKitten posted...
It's almost like you can't fix bad management/design decisions simply by throwing more money/resources/manpower at the project.
It's almost like you can't just hire people who are highly competent in all those fields and take the credit.usuratonkachi posted...switcmon's going to look like a ps2 game, isn't it?
Eh. Could be worse.
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"You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker."Lexifox posted...To be fair this is good advice for all video games
This has been an interesting read, I have never seen so many people complain about the franchise before and where its heading. I have played the games since the very beginning and have some friends that have as well, We all took our goggles off long ago.
I know this hasn't been said out right but I can see a lot of you enjoyed the earlier versions over the newer ones, I feel the lack of story (catch'em all, beat the elite 4) Holds the first one back but given the limited ability of the gameboy this is understandable.
We started to get some what of a story in silver/gold, each one holding a legendary that you had to learn about and complete objectives to capture, step in the right direction! Black/white happen to be my favorite story of any of the games so far, I wish they would have went more in depth with it and pushed it further but its a game they are selling to kids first.
X/Y, were decent games where they started adding customization that we have all been begging for since the rise of the DS/3ds era. S/M took it even further by taking away the tired old 8 gyms and giving us something similar to the Orange Islands which I enjoyed, and it is something we seen in the pokemon world before just not the core games (I feel going to the elite 4 and getting a different challenger for awhile after words was a nice add).
My concern here is how do these games fail in comparison to the original when there wasn't much post game, no story, no way to change anything about yourself to make you stand out from your friends.
I have hope for the switch game to add more story elements to maybe bring back a gym system but maybe keep a few challenges around the area, More ways to change things about your character, and lots of post game as I feel the switch opens up more ability to do so. BRING BACK THE CONTEST!
We do have to keep in mind that this is the first game for the switch so it may not live up to what we want, but its a step in the right direction, and a step away from the DS which is needed because nintendo has been pushing new ones down our throat every year!Yi - To act without hesitation, to do what is rightDeadinsideman posted...TheCraigadile posted...
Deadinsideman posted...
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Rad_Dudesman posted...
The full interview can be watched here:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/08/08/pokemon-s-developers-talk-about-their-console-rpg-debut-on-switch.aspx
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
Well, there may be 2 Christmases (is that the plural of Christmas?) before Switchmons, so plenty of children will have them.
outside of the U.S and Canada, christmas doesn't really equate to "parents splurging their cash on electronics for their ungrateful kids" day.
In Ireland it is. Although most kids only usually get around 4-5 presents, whereas in America I've seen kids asking for 15 expensive things so I suppose it's still the case.
When I was younger, if I wanted something expensive like a Gamecube, I'd have to pay for half of it and would get two games. I always thought that was fair.
15 expensive presents on average huh?
Just when I thought I couldn't despise my parents enough...
Well, I'm sure that's probably just the richest people. I'm sure it's the same in most places. Still, I'm sure a lot of kids will be wanting a Switch, and a lot of Grannies will be buying their grandchildren them."..."-Link
I'm actually a deer irl. Real photo of me: https://imgur.com/gallery/sQotWF4PkmTrainerAbram posted...More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.
Not sure why you'd think that. Speak to any Japanese fans lately?Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.
They don't make console games. This is a console game. People are stupid and hyping up Breath of the Pokemon. They're just telling people not to expect anything extravagant.I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.
k"Murder of the living is tragic, but murder of the idea is unforgivable." - Janus, speaker of the synodRad_Dudesman posted...Also I'm pretty sure Masuda is talking about the morons who expect the game to be as big as Skyrim or Breath of the Wild
You know, the "open world game with every region" idiots
Pokebuster64 posted...Hopefully their just saying this for people hoping for somthing crazy like a full openworld pokemon game with all of the regions
I can't wait to see the reactions of the whiny, entitled people who immediately jumped on the Switchmons bandwagon and seriously expected that of it.FC: 2964-8611-5412 | Pokemon Moon IGN: Zizou
Games I'm playing: Bravely Default, Donkey Kong 64, Drawn to Life@PkmTrainerAbram posted...Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is
More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.
Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.
I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).
S&M had an amazing reception.
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What? No?! Did u read at all. All they are saying is that they are enjoying making the game for players and they are asking the players to not have unrealistic expectations of the switch game.My friend code is: 3239 - 7984 - 2352We do have to keep in mind that this is the first game for the switch so it may not live up to what we want, but its a step in the right direction, and a step away from the DS which is needed because nintendo has been pushing new ones down our throat every year!
People said the same thing for the jump to the 3DS with the modeling and whatnot, it's been 4-5 years since, and still no game on the level of BW2 in terms of content. I'm not willing to give them an excuse like this again.
They don't make console games. This is a console game. People are stupid and hyping up Breath of the Pokemon. They're just telling people not to expect anything extravagant.
It's funny that you ask if I've heard of Japanese fan reactions when the Switch is marketed as a console/handheld hybrid even more over there.
They've jumped from GB to GBC to GBA to DS to 3DS. Developing for a new system shouldn't be anything too new or difficult for a company that has been around since the 90s.3DS Friend Code:0044 4173 2062
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#FreeDragonRulersdragulas posted...lmao "difficult to make"
all the amazing games on much better consoles in recent times and pokémon of all things is apparently "difficult to make"
maybe the "difficult" thing is having to raise their standards to that of the games around them, since they've clearly become complacent in recent years on the 3DS
You have to remember that Gamefreak has never really been GOOD at making games. They couldn't get Gold/Silver to fit on a GBC cartridge until Iwata stepped in and single handedly cleaned up their coding.i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button
Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.
IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.3DS Friend Code:0044 4173 2062
IGN: Is Abram/Abe.....Friend Safari: Steel - Klang/Magneton/Klefki Gen 6 TSV: 1607 GEN 7 TSV: 3556Zend posted...They couldn't get Gold/Silver to fit on a GBC cartridge until Iwata stepped in and single handedly cleaned up their coding.
Iwata also single-handedly coded Pokemon Stadium as well as fixing some errors found in RGBY.
Edit: Oh, and within a week as well.Official Alolan Raichu of the Pokemon Ultra Sun Board
"You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker."I am not giving them an excuse or a way out I expect the game to be good, hopefully amazing, but building something from the ground up from portable to home Console is a little different.
1. Better models and more living city's are possible, larger scale
2. While we lack the double screen, the main screen is bigger so larger line of site gives the possibility to open up the world a little more with a larger map more paths to follow and trainers doing things besides standing with their hands in their pockets.
Yes they should be able to pull it off, they should put lots of work in to it, they have no excuses to push out garbage, but they also may make mistakes, this is the one they will need feed back on because this and more is the future of the franchise.Yi - To act without hesitation, to do what is rightZend posted...DRulerLightning posted...
they are good at getting your money by reselling you the same f***ing s*** since 1999
If they were the exact same f***ing games as Red/Blue, generations 6/7 would've at least been slightly enjoyable.
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#FreeDragonRulersGlad to see that even they are saying not to get all hype.
After Gen 5, people have been overhyping these games like mad only to be outright disappointed in the end, course a good chunk of this is Gamefreaks fault in the first place for their habit of "scrapping mechanics and options that were already good"and often replacing them with something not up to par.FC: 3196-4054-9565
Ditto, loudred, lilipupWhats up with all the pathetic losers and trolls ITT. Why are they insulting Gamefreak so much? If they hate Pokemon so much then why are they even on this board?FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://i.imgur.com/LJ3WSyB.gifPkmTrainerAbram posted...i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button
Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.
IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.
oh yeah forgot the hollywood thing
really just garbage filler that serves no purpose other than to be garbage filler but given who im talking to im probably just going to be called a silly casual for not enjoying the filler minigames that have nothing to do with mons gameplay that only veteran fans will enjoy
not defending sm but all of the content in it except the battle tree is brand new, bw2 is just bw with treehollow slapped on~TFS~PkmTrainerAbram posted...Sounds like they just know how whiny and entitled most of their fanbase is
More like they are aware that the fanbase's reactions to the last three games have been lukewarm and they are damage controlling early on.
Regaurdless, this was a stupid thing to admit publicly but I'm glad they did it. Now I don't need to dread the Switch game being medocore when I know it will be, so I can skip out on buying that with no regrets. If they are going in with the mindset like this, I'm not going to care either.
I don't care if they have to go back to (nice)sprite based graphics on the Switch to cut down on production time, I just want a great game with tons of stuff to do. They've done it before with less money and manpower than the last 3 games, and still can't get it right. s*** like the last three games is not what I'm paying for ever again and to put something like that out on the Switch would just be insulting.
Masuda talks about the fact that kids (i.e. the primary audience) might not have gotten their own Switch yet
This is what gets me. The Switch install base is no where near the 3DS, partly because Nintendo still keeps the supply of the Switch low. How is a mainline Pokemon game going to sell when you can't even make it available to at least half of it's consumers? I want a Switch, but nope, my store only gets in 3 every 2 months(not even exaggerating, this is what we've gotten in).
Pretty much this, and I actually had fun with SM. There's still an issue they've had between XY, ORAS, and SM that they're just not overcoming for one reason or another, and if this persists then it's nice to know in advance what direction the series is actually deciding to stick with so I can save money when the time comes to see how little Game Freak is willing to do.LightningAce11 posted...Gamefreak are a bunch of lazy asses who probably won't take advantage of the switch's increased power.
More like can't I'd imagine. I'd assume they'd play it safe to what they can manage.Official Alolan Raichu of the Pokemon Ultra Sun Board
"You either die a noob, or live long enough to see yourself become a hacker."ColdOne666 posted...Whats up with all the pathetic losers and trolls ITT. Why are they insulting Gamefreak so much? If they hate Pokemon so much then why are they even on this board?
Why do you care if someone insults Game freak? Every single post you make ends with a signature that insults Nintendo and the people the make their games as well as comic readers. Pretty hypocritical of you, small fry.MegaMewtwoX posted...PkmTrainerAbram posted...
i fail to see how bw2 had "content" when literally all of it was a copypaste/reskin of something in the game immediately prior
the closest thing to content bw2 had was the white treehollow aka 2 hours of literally just mashing the a button
Copy paste Subway still has more modes than Tree. Then there is Battle Institute, PWT, Join Avenue, Tower/Hollow, PokeStudios, etc.
IDGAF how you feel about Gen 5, but factually it has more to do than SM.
oh yeah forgot the hollywood thing
really just garbage filler that serves no purpose other than to be garbage filler but given who im talking to im probably just going to be called a silly casual for not enjoying the filler minigames that have nothing to do with mons gameplay that only veteran fans will enjoy
not defending sm but all of the content in it except the battle tree is brand new, bw2 is just bw with treehollow slapped on
Ok. So I'm an elitist and I'm not a vetran player. How does that even work.
At the time BW2 came out all those features were new. You're just ignoring that on purpose.
And all the features in SM being new? QR scanner was just another Mystery Gift to get one event Legend that could have been gotten with Mystery Gift. The camera minigme was a stripped down version of a console Pokemon game released over two decades ago. Island Scan is a worse version of Dex Nav/ Festival Plaza was a worse version of Join Avenue, which in the game it debuted was brand new.3DS Friend Code:0044 4173 2062
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