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- Masuda tells people not to get their expectations too high for the Switch game
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Translation: "Stop expecting a Pokémon MMO you dumbass Yankees"
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Stop insulting kuriboh bro abram @DRulerLightning @MegaMewtwoX
Nidoqueen is a large, bipedal, purple Pokemon with distinct reptilian features. It has narrow eyes, large, spiny ears, fur-like tufts on its cheeks, and a short
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Agent_Xoa posted...
What a Developer says: "No, we're not making a 500 hour long story rpg with 4k graphics on our portable console. Keep your expectations in check."
Super Mario World, Demon's Souls, Xenoblade Chronicles.
Super Metroid, Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped, Final Fantasy IX. |
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What is really going to be interesting is how they do multiplayer. Online should be fairly straightforward, but person to person is more interesting. Part of the inherent design in Pokemon is interacting with someone close to you. Trying to evolve Pokemon that require trade will be really annoying if we can't do it with our friends right next to us. For it to work in online you would need to have really stable voice chat features. I think that's why where people play is going to have a big effect how they design the multiplayer.
As for the extra content, we can only hope that they are able to add like a Battle Royal mechanic in since they don't have to worry about balance with the remake. |
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Arn544 posted...
130 new pokemon is NOT a best case scenario... that's how we end up with ice cream and trash bags as pokemon Yeah, if only they could have stuck with originality like red and white orb with eyes that turns into upside down red and white orb with eyes? Or what about floating eyeball with magnets that turns into three floating eyeballs with magnets??? Classics like pile of purple sludge that turns into bigger pile of purple sludge? Oh gosh, how could I forget rock with arms??? I take no issue with the designs and choices of the original Pokemon, but this argument that the trash bag and ice cream were just awful completely disregards all of the "just awful" things that have been pumped out along the way. They were fine, seriously get over it.
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@Zeldameister posted...
That sounds like this game is going to be s***! no it does not. please read the actual article. |
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tcsavato posted...
What's with the doom and gloom? This board is full of trolls. That said, it is best to not set expectations too high. |
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
PkmTrainerAbram posted...PFTHAHAHAHAHAHA. And I couldn't help but notice that there were no real arguments in the post he was responding to, either.
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fahademon posted...
tcsavato posted...What's with the doom and gloom? FTFY.
Alola's primary exports are bells and glue; Stick em on anything someone owns and sell it back for profit!
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ClassyOldHat posted...
MegaMewtwoX posted...PkmTrainerAbram posted...PFTHAHAHAHAHAHA. Btfo @MegaMewtwoX |
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mrstubix posted...
What is really going to be interesting is how they do multiplayer. Online should be fairly straightforward, but person to person is more interesting. Part of the inherent design in Pokemon is interacting with someone close to you. Trying to evolve Pokemon that require trade will be really annoying if we can't do it with our friends right next to us. For it to work in online you would need to have really stable voice chat features. I think that's why where people play is going to have a big effect how they design the multiplayer. The Switch has local wireless capabilities though.
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Deadinsideman posted...
lol @ the people still trying to defend gamefreak. Never seen a post i agree more with then this
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
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In today's news, PokemonFaqs is taking a quote out of context from a whole interview they probably didn't bother to read entirely and twisting it's meaning to fit their personal assumptions. Could it be they've been inflicted with the same disease that plagued the Smash fanbase for years where semantics simply elude them and must argue them pointlessly to death? Find out at 10.
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DragonDeoxys posted...
In today's news, PokemonFaqs is taking a quote out of context from a whole interview they probably didn't bother to read entirely and twisting it's meaning to fit their personal assumptions. Could it be they've been inflicted with the same disease that plagued the Smash fanbase for years where semantics simply elude them and must argue them pointlessly to death? Find out at 10. Fake news
I'm very reasonable.
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Well no s***. He didn't want to make the game and let's be real they only announced it to shut up the disrespectful a******s who complained about the Pokemon Direct. Did you honestly think you'd get something special or exceptionally well made? Pokemon is a handheld franchise and only the dedicated handheld is where Pokemon attains it's accessibility.
Switch is a portable home console which you're not going to fit in your Pocket and engage street pass for accessible goodies. It's a piece of big tech you have to find a space, get comfortable and set-up for.
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Adam_Ace posted...
Well no s***. He didn't want to make the game and let's be real they only announced it to shut up the disrespectful a******s who complained about the Pokemon Direct. Did you honestly think you'd get something special or exceptionally well made? Pokemon is a handheld franchise and only the dedicated handheld is where Pokemon attains it's accessibility. The customer is always right without us they would be nothing
We need a new Final Fantasy Tactics
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Adam_Ace posted...
Well no s***. He didn't want to make the game and let's be real they only announced it to shut up the disrespectful a******s who complained about the Pokemon Direct. Did you honestly think you'd get something special or exceptionally well made? Pokemon is a handheld franchise and only the dedicated handheld is where Pokemon attains it's accessibility. I didn't care for street pass and felt it added little to nothing to the pokemon world I'd rather have better graphics a bigger screen and chance for future installments to be bigger.The DS is dying it can not handle where pokemon needs to go if it wants to stay relevant, I promise you it was not the complaining that make them decide to make a new game, they had this planed before, but they normally do not announce pokemon games this far in advance. It has always been heading to a home console this is why the switch was made so Nintendo can own both the handheld and home console in one, and there is no set up or comfy needed it fits nicely in your hands, the switch is amazing!
Yi - To act without hesitation, to do what is right
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CloverKitten posted...
>GF announces $80 of reskinned cartridges in an environment where DLC is practical and convenient. Implying that you not only have to buy both games but that you were able to glean enough info from 30 seconds of available footage to feel this way.
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TheZuperHero posted...
Implying that you not only have to buy both games No I didn't, but thank you for reminding me that children who play this game for "muh story" will still need to shell out the full $80 for the "complete" Ultra experience. TheZuperHero posted... that you were able to glean enough info from 30 seconds of available footage to feel this way. You mean you can't? You need to work on your con-avoidance skills. |
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GnarleyT posted...
Adam_Ace posted...Well no s***. He didn't want to make the game and let's be real they only announced it to shut up the disrespectful a******s who complained about the Pokemon Direct. Did you honestly think you'd get something special or exceptionally well made? Pokemon is a handheld franchise and only the dedicated handheld is where Pokemon attains it's accessibility. My words exactly.
"That thing you call selfishness is what we call justice."
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CloverKitten posted...
You mean you can't? You need to work on your con-avoidance skills. I don't make hasty judgments, no. I'm not saying US/UM will be good, but I'm certainly not going to call it either way on such limited information. That's silly. I really disliked D/P when they came out but Platinum fixed most if not all of the problems I had. Third versions (which US/UM basically are) don't have to be bad.
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TheZuperHero posted...
I'm certainly not going to call it either way on such limited information. I'm calling it based on what they've shown and their past behavior, which just doesn't fly (even by their low standards) in an era with practical and convenient DLC. The onus is on them to impress me/the consumer enough to encourage my business, as it should be. I have no interest whatsoever in supporting a shallow reskin of a 1-year-old game (applies to "different story NPC ramblings")that doubles as a half-assed $40/$80 annual paywall to winning competitive-level battles. |
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CloverKitten posted...
shallow reskin of a 1-year-old game that doubles as a half-assed $40/$80 annual paywall to winning competitive-level battles. This is the kind of stuff I mean. You have no idea what they've changed and you're spouting off this "I'm the consumer, cater to my whims" narrative without even knowing what you're getting yet. It's just really presumptuous.
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TheZuperHero posted...
This is the kind of stuff I mean. You have no idea what they've changed and you're spouting off this "I'm the consumer, cater to my whims" narrative without even knowing what you're getting yet. It's just really presumptuous. And if Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum/BW2 didn't exist and ORAS hadn't completely bodied XY players, you might have a leg to stand on. |
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CloverKitten posted...
TheZuperHero posted...This is the kind of stuff I mean. You have no idea what they've changed and you're spouting off this "I'm the consumer, cater to my whims" narrative without even knowing what you're getting yet. It's just really presumptuous. I already said that I enjoyed Platinum, it fixed a pair of games that I really disliked. I don't know what to say to you then. Don't buy them.
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TheZuperHero posted...
I already said that I enjoyed Platinum Okay? What does that have to do with the topic at hand? it fixed a pair of games that I really disliked >Advocating literally multiple $40 patch cartridges in the era of DLC. I don't know what to say to you then. So are you exerting narcissism or... Don't buy them. No s***? But if you're confused why I'm here, I still like Pokemon, I want them to make good games/games I want to buy, I'm going to voice my opinion and attempt to dissuade people from supporting practices that encourage GF to make bad/cash-grab games. Not a difficult concept. |
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I for one would hate to see pokemon go to DLC, I feel the 3rd/sequels games change the story enough in MOST games and gave me enough to do that I never felt cheated,
Though if DLC was coming out monthly. bi-monthly and nickle and dimming me more often than just a new game then I would feel cheated, DLC has almost ruined the video game industry and would in fact be a case for them to do what everyone is worried about, make a super crap and short game and keep releasing dlc every weeor month, so please please please stop asking for DLC i;d hate to see that happen to a main pokemon game.
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Adam_Ace posted...
Switch is a portable home console which you're not going to fit in your Pocket and engage street pass for accessible goodies. It's a piece of big tech you have to find a space, get comfortable and set-up for. lolno switch is literally a handheld with an hd port and two detachable controllers only reason why they market it as a hybrid is to justify home console tier prices on standard edition games and subscription-locked multiplayer, staying semirelevant in the home consoles market doesnt hurt either it is already in its early-access state as a handheld (altough that can be said for nearly every system), as a home console it would be beyond laughable also the reactions are funny considering gamefaqs likes to s*** on the one entry where they actually stepped up their game instead of just taking the previous one and improve upon it, while also praises the one that is literally the previous one but worse in every single aspect bar speed and cutscene hell (which is not even an improvement seeing how gamefaqs cries about it in sm) this is basically gamefaqs whining because masuda said the game is gonna deliver exactly what gamefaqs pretends not to want with the difference that this time it isnt rushed on a dead hardware so it is supposedly gonna be a slight upgrade at least on par with gsc, rsefrlg and oras dppthgss is not mentioned because it is in its own league lol
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7balancedhackmons-580544682 make sunfaqs great again
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what if the dlc comes out only once but on the next system and has the best mons in the game? :^)
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CloverKitten posted...
No s***? But if you're confused why I'm here, I still like Pokemon, I want them to make good games/games I want to buy, I'm going to voice my opinion and attempt to dissuade people from supporting practices that encourage GF to make bad/cash-grab games. Not a difficult concept. You're choosing to be miserable (and vocally miserable at that) with no knowledge of whether it's warranted. I'm sure you'll find plenty of reasons to be miserable when US/UM come out, I'm just wondering why you feel the need to be equally unpleasant in this period where it is frankly unwarranted.
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Personally, I can't comprehend when people say that Game Freak are "scammers" and "lazy" and blah blah blah. It might be because I don't usually have anything to complain about with Pokémon games, especially the recent ones, unlike the people here that clearly do.
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CloverKitten posted...
MegaKingdra posted...what if the dlc comes out only once but on the next system and has the best mons in the game? :^) that could not even be traded id like to add, despite the main selling point of the franchise being interacting with others lol
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- Boards
- Pokemon Ultra Sun
- Masuda tells people not to get their expectations too high for the Switch game
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- Pokemon Ultra Sun
- Masuda tells people not to get their expectations too high for the Switch game
CloverKitten posted...GnarleyT posted...
bi-monthly and nickle and dimming
Pretty bad that you have to villainize all DLC as its greediest/laziest extreme in order to make what they're currently doing sound tolerable.
I don't believe I am doing anything of the sort, yes thats an extreme, there have been times where DLC has been alright, adding new maps for instance, heck you can consider some of the legendary pokemon DLC now, but its free.
I believe DLC has gotten out of hand it seems to be a staple now to release a game and then keep making more for it heck half the time they offer season passes now to tell you hey this game is got complete yet maybe in the next two years.
My point is Pokemon has been doing this since gen one Yellow was nothing more than a rehash of red/blue where you got to be closer to the anime over the Manga, So pikachu followed you and you could get all 3 starters on your own. I still bought it loved it!
With later generations when stories started to develop in the game world we started getting a 3rd game or more games that had a different story that took place after the first games, So changes in certain locations a different story, to me this is not DLC I would hate for a new threat to arise and my pokemon already be trained to their max and it not to be a challenge, thats my issue with DLC.
Its something I am scared they'd do with the Switch version (though I could see it, they may release regions over time as dlc that I'd be okay with, but not hopeful for.)
I feel the biggest issue is there is no way they will ever make everyone happy, its impossible, and its sad because this series has brought so much Joy and happiness over so many years to a lot of people, and now we have people complain about every small detail or new thing added, For years we had people complain that the formula needed to change, the 8 gym system they do that, people lose their mind. For years people have been asking for a home console version and now we are getting the closest thing we can to it and well people aren't happy. I feel bad for video game creators, nerds are a tough crowd to please. (I am a nerd so this was in no way an insult)Yi - To act without hesitation, to do what is rightGnarleyT posted...season passes now to tell you hey this game is got complete yet maybe in the next two years
And Duskenroc doesn't tell a similar tale?So changes in certain locations a different story, to me this is not DLC
You're right. DLC only adds content/assets, you prefer removing content/assets/text and replacing them with slightly different content/assets/text.I would hate for a new threat to arise and my pokemon already be trained to their max and it not to be a challenge, thats my issue with DLC.
You're literally saying you play Pokemon to be challenged by NPCs.and now we have people complain... I feel bad for video game creators, nerds are a tough crowd to please.
It's almost like people want to get their money's worth out of the game and provide feedback to make that more likely in the future.
I don't see how that remark supports $40/$80 reskins, though.GnarleyT posted...For years we had people complain that the formula needed to change, the 8 gym system they do that, people lose their mind.
Trials are basically s***tier Gyms. People who wanted Gyms got a downgrade, people who wanted a departure from Gyms didn't get that; GF didn't do what anyone wanted and failed to please anyone outside a fleeting "lol hiker david" and "ooooooo spoooopy Mimikyu".Tappor_Koko posted...mfw 5 pages worth of people taking this seriously
y'all are gonna be mad at the man either way so idk why he even opened his mouth
I'm just glad Masuda gave us an excuse to s*** on him.
If only he could see how people feel about him and his villainy...
Sure it won't do much to someone with money like him but it's still nice to give bad people what they deserve.MegaKingdra posted...CloverKitten posted...
MegaKingdra posted...
what if the dlc comes out only once but on the next system and has the best mons in the game? :^)
A good reminder that the last time GF gave us "the same game you played last year but different story", it was a $243 p2w triple paywall.
that could not even be traded id like to add, despite the main selling point of the franchise being interacting with others lol
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TheZuperHero posted...You're choosing to be miserable
I'm having more fun criticizing what SM did wrong and how USUM look unworthy of a purchase than I had actually playing SM. If that's misery then what does that say about Gen 7? (not referring to VGC17)and vocally miserable at that
Again, "I want them to make good games/games I want to buy"with no knowledge of whether it's warranted
TIL 18 years of experience with a franchise = no knowledgeI'm sure you'll find plenty of reasons to be miserable when US/UM come out
Probably, but at this rate it won't be related to spending money on USUM.I'm just wondering why you feel the need to be equally unpleasant in this period where it is frankly unwarranted.
Playing SM, 18 years of experience with the GF cycle, basic pattern recognition skills, and GF doing nothing to warrant spending $40/$80. Hope I'm wrong, but I'm not going to stop voicing my concerns and optimism is one of the great dangers of human cognition.Deadinsideman posted...Tappor_Koko posted...
mfw 5 pages worth of people taking this seriously
y'all are gonna be mad at the man either way so idk why he even opened his mouth
I'm just glad Masuda gave us an excuse to s*** on him.
If only he could see how people feel about him and his villainy...
Sure it won't do much to someone with money like him but it's still nice to give bad people what they deserve.
i mean its not like people here are any better, perhaps even worse lol"I can count the number of people that actually buy both versions on my penis"MegaMewtwoX posted...Tappor_Koko posted...
MegaKingdra posted...
that could not even be traded id like to add, despite the main selling point of the franchise being interacting with others lol
that is not it
yes it is
its not otherwise most of this forum's users would not even be here"I can count the number of people that actually buy both versions on my penis"MegaMewtwoX posted...>using gamefaqs as a standard for anything
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stop trying to defend singleplayer mons tappor
it is what you like to s*** on gen 5 about so i don't see why you're complaining
if single player doesnt matter i dont ever wanna see another gen 5 hatepost out of you ever again"I can count the number of people that actually buy both versions on my penis"MegaMewtwoX posted...spawning a cancerous fanbase
who like it primarily because of its single player
MegaMewtwoX posted...locking pvp behind p2w dlc
this is a misleading statement, you can still do pvp.
you just won't have the best mon(s) in the game :thinking:
MegaMewtwoX posted...introducing hyper cancer rng
how
MegaMewtwoX posted...yanking
what the f*** is that
MegaMewtwoX posted...are not about singleplayer
it forms a large part of your argument though
so if single player doesnt matter, don't use it to debase gen 5 anymore lul"I can count the number of people that actually buy both versions on my penis"Tappor_Koko posted...who like it primarily because of its single player
so you agree mons would be better off as just a trade/battle sim
Tappor_Koko posted...this is a misleading statement, you can still do pvp.
you just won't have the best mon(s) in the game :thinking:
have fun without your genies of healthy meta
Tappor_Koko posted...how
do you not know how hidden abilities/hidden grottoes/dream world work
Tappor_Koko posted...what the f*** is that
that is part of the above statement the word i wanted to use would get modded
Tappor_Koko posted...it forms a large part of your argument though
none of the above is about singleplayer
Tappor_Koko posted...so if single player doesnt matter, don't use it to debase gen 5 anymore lul
i only use it to tell manchildren who rational arguments would be lost on that they are eating feces when they could be eating dirt instead~TFS~MegaMewtwoX posted...so you agree mons would be better off as just a trade/battle sim
i wont say that. but i will say there are much better things that, as a person above the age of 12, you could be playing for the story
MegaMewtwoX posted...do you not know how hidden abilities/hidden grottoes/dream world work
its more like two out of those three things never saw the light of day after 2012
MegaMewtwoX posted...none of the above is about singleplayer
thats nice and all but your argument isnt just about those things"I can count the number of people that actually buy both versions on my penis"MegaKingdra posted...also the reactions are funny considering gamefaqs likes to s*** on the one entry where they actually stepped up their game instead of just taking the previous one and improve upon it, while also praises the one that is literally the previous one but worse in every single aspect bar speed and cutscene hell (which is not even an improvement seeing how gamefaqs cries about it in sm)
Which ones are these? I know you think it's probably obvious, but in my experience, when most people are asked "what generation does GameFAQs hate the most?" the answer is usually "My favorite." And vice-versa for what GameFAQs likes and you dislike most. Because we tend to remember negative experiences (i.e. people disagreeing with us) better than positive ones.Pokemon X Grass Safari (Oddish, Sawsbuck, Gogoat) FC: 4124-5539-4848 IGN: ZachI know this is mostly a s***posting topic at this point, but to me I think it's pretty clear that they mean to not expect them to wildly change the series as it moves onto the Switch.
Ever since the possibility of a mainline game on the Switch, a select group of people have been acting like it'll be a hyperrealistic, open world game. When it's obviously just going to be a prettier version of the same formula. Anyone who expected anything different is setting themselves up for disappointment, that really should be obvious.never have i once said the story sucking is the reason gen 5 sucks
my statements about gen 5 story have always been one of the following:
explaining why making a multiplayer game story oriented is terrible
rebuking the nonsensical defense that "gen 5 was good because the story was good"
one of many items on a list of things that gen 5 did far poorer than any other mons game
dont put words in my mouth~TFS~CloverKitten posted...Again, "I want them to make good games/games I want to buy"
And you think GF is scouring messages boards for ideas for their game that is three months from release? Keep pretending you're informed.Now Playing: Dragon Quest VI (DS), Darksiders: Warmastered (Wii U), Etrian Odyssey Untold, Splatoon 2
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