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Anybody who doesn't think so needs to have their head examined, tbh.
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Yes, but not gonna lie, creating Switch was pretty brilliant. I know some people that only bought a 3DS for pokemon that want a switch for the same reason. And some that are just nintendo fanboys. They found a way to get everyone to buy their s***, while reducing production costs because they only have to produce one thing to appease all the demographics that were buying their stuff before.
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It was, but it still had a lot of great games on it.
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Yes.
But I do like the console a lot. Some great games, even if there aren't many. The graphics are excellent, too despite people saying they're kinda weak. Essential purchases are Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze, Yoshi's Wooly World, and New Super Mario Bros U. Between them, I probably have about 500 hours.
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Despite how much I like the Wii U, I'd be lying to myself if I said it wasn't a flop compared to every other Nintendo system sans the Virtual Boy, especially coming off the Wii which was extremely successful. The Wii U still had a great line-up of exclusive games though & I love the gamepad controller.
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Did the Wii U play GameCube games? I forget
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It was absolutely a flop but I feel like I got my money's worth.
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Yeah while it has some good games it doe not really have any ground breaking games.
On the first party front I feel like nintendo was not prepared to develop in hd so their games are not as big as they should be. Nothing really vast in scope except for Breath of the Wild. Instead we get games like Captain Toad, Super Mario 3d world and various 2d platformers. No games like Super Mario Galaxy, or Super Mario 64.
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creativeme posted...
vita, saturn and dreamcast Top 10 Saddest Anime Deaths The Wii U was basically the Wii, but without the lightning strike fad of the casual install base. I liked some of the games. I ended up buying roughly the same amount of games as I did for the Wii
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11 people should be calling and scheduling appointments with psychiatrists right about now.
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Aristoph posted...
11 people should be calling and scheduling appointments with psychiatrists right about now. Anyone that thinks other people require medical attention for a video game opinion is in way more need for help than anyone else.
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Anyone who genuinely doesn't think the Wii U was a flop has lost touch with reality.
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Aristoph posted...
l Dudeboy l posted... voldothegr8 posted... Obviously it flopped financially, but I bought it knowing it would be a 1st party box and it delivered in that regard.
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Aristoph posted...
l Dudeboy l posted... You have lost touch with reality. It's not either/or.
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voldothegr8 posted...
Aristoph posted...l Dudeboy l posted... So basically what you're saying is that you don't actually understand the concept of a "flop" and instead just assume "I liked it" is equivalent to "it didn't flop"? Let's look at some sales numbers: PlayStation 2: over 155 million PlayStation: over 100 million Wii: over 100 million XBox 360: 84 million PlayStation 3: 84 million NES: 62 million SNES: 50 million Wii U: 13.5 million It f***ing flopped. There's no "opinion" about it. It was a disaster of a console and it flopped hard. The fact that you personally liked it is completely irrelevant, unless you plan on buying another ~30 million units by yourself.
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Aristoph posted...
voldothegr8 posted...Aristoph posted...l Dudeboy l posted... Nobody is denying is flopped sales wise, way to waste your time is that hate filled post. On a personal level it was not a flop to me because it gave me many of games that were stellar.
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l Dudeboy l posted...
Real definition of flop - It did so bad it almost destroyed the company. Barely sold. Massive loss. e.g. Virtual Boy, Sega Saturn. people have a generally bad understand of what a flop is when it comes to games because the budget of the game isn't always readily obvious, which is why a game like USF2 can sell 450,000 copies and be a massive success and a game like SFV can sell 1,700,000 copies and be a massive flop. But in the context of console hardware, the Wii U was a really bad flop |
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Considering the number of hours I got from Smash alone (not to mention BotW and Xenoblade X), I do not regret my purchase or personally consider it a flop.
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voldothegr8 posted...
On a personal level it was not a flop to me There's no such thing as "not a flop to me" though. That's the point. On a personal level, something can be good or it can be bad. You can love it or you can hate it or anything in between. But when talking about whether a product flopped, by definition it is not a personal opinion. It's a statement of a general fact on a commercial level that has little or nothing to do with a personal opinion. For example, I personally thought the movie Avatar was a pathetic disgrace. It was one of the most derivative pieces of meaningless drivel I've ever sat through. But I can't go around saying "Avatar was a total flop in my opinion" because it's just factually inaccurate. Avatar did not flop. It did fantastic commercially. It's the same thing with the Wii U. Whatever you personally think about it, the damn thing was a flop. It sold like s***, nobody knew what the hell it even was when it first came out (I still remember people walking into the store looking for "that new Wii accessory"), third party developers wanted nothing to do with it, and it was basically abandoned after only a few years.
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It flopped, but not like the virtual boy or anything. The first party library was solid, that's just all it had.
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Aristoph posted...
voldothegr8 posted...On a personal level it was not a flop to me I don't think anyone would deny that it was a commercial flop. It's important to differentiate the word "flop" with regards to commercial vs. personal. There's nothing wrong with you saying "Avatar flopped in my book" (which is a personal statement). People will obviously disagree, given Avatar's success, but that doesn't invalidate your opinion one bit. The alternate statement is just "Avatar flopped" (which is not personal, just an objective statement). People will still disagree, but this time, your statement is invalidated, because it's not an opinion-based statement, but rather a statement that goes against what all the reviews and box office success have shown to be true. The reverse holds true for Wii U. I can say "The Wii U was not a flop to me" (personal). Again, people may disagree, but it doesn't invalidate my opinion. But if I said "The Wii U was not a flop" (general), I would objectively be wrong. When speaking to your personal opinion, it's okay to call Avatar a flop, or to call the Wii U successful. It's when you use objectively wrong statements (when there are financial statistics to prove you wrong) that it becomes an issue.
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Muffinz0rz posted...
When speaking to your personal opinion, it's okay to call Avatar a flop, or to call the Wii U successful. But it's not, though. Just because you keep saying you can doesn't make it true. You can say "I hated Avatar" or "I loved the Wii U" but you cannot call Avatar a "failure" or call the Wii U "successful." Because they weren't. Avatar was successful and the Wii U was a failure. To claim otherwise is not an opinion. Your opinion is about your enjoyment of the product. But whether or not something is a flop is purely about whether it was a success or a failure. And success/failure has nothing to do with a single individual's enjoyment of a product. It's purely based on overall sales and support of that product. The Wii U did not sell and it had no support, so it flopped. You liked it, and that's fine, but it objectively flopped.
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Aristoph posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...When speaking to your personal opinion, it's okay to call Avatar a flop, or to call the Wii U successful. The definition of "flop" is important to look at though. Here is one definition of the noun form: informal So if you watch Avatar and think, "this movie failed to have an original storyline and failed to keep me entertained (which is the objective of movies), it was a total failure and a flop to me." I understand that the word has strong ties to market success. I'm not denying that. But the definition of the word does not strictly limit usage to refer to market success. You can call Avatar a flop in your book and have it be correct, even though it was a massively popular movie and objectively a market success.
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the only games i bought/played on it were Smash, Bayo 2 and MK8
those 3 are great but that's not enough to justify a consolevoldothegr8 posted...Muffinz0rz posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Pretty sure at this point the dude is just trolling.
Who, me?
Nah the other dude.
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BRAVELY DEFAULT: 1075 - 0844 - 9134 + FS: Pumkaboo, Lampent, Dusclops.rexcrk posted...I've always found it funny how absolutely personal people seem to take it when it comes to saying anything positive about this console. Like, people will fight to the death to make sure everyone shares the same negative opinion towards it.
Yeah people do really try to make sure everyone shares their opinion, heaven forbid one person disagrees.Not changing this sig until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010)
BRAVELY DEFAULT: 1075 - 0844 - 9134 + FS: Pumkaboo, Lampent, Dusclops.The Top Crusader posted...Clearly a flop, but one of my favorite consoles. Not TONS of games but some real gems, and pretty great VC (even better since you can use the Wii VC as well).
Hoping Mario Odyssey can surpass it, but Super Mario 3D World was the most fun I've had playing a game in ages.
I played both.
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