CBWL 015

 Wrestling Observer Live

Dave Meltzer & Bryan Alvarez June 7, 2026 (Unfiltered)

Bryan Alvarez: This one’s from 1995 too. Drew Barrymore vs Pamela Anderson in a Toilet Match. “Closet Cunt Crusher” vs “Pam.” Head in the bowl to win, winner sits on the loser’s face until submission.

(Bryan shares the poster)

Dave Meltzer: This one was interesting because it was one of the first times CBWL actually tried to market something with real mainstream crossover names. They shot it in that old Hollywood Bowl Arena bathroom setup they used back then. The production was surprisingly good for what it was — they had decent lighting and multiple camera angles, which was rare for them at the time.

What stood out was how different Drew and Pamela were in their approach. Drew was aggressive as hell. She was treating it like a real fight. Pamela, on the other hand, was clearly out of her element. She was trying to play along with the character and the spots, but you could tell she wasn’t comfortable. There was one moment where Drew slammed her head into the bowl and Pamela’s selling looked a little too real.

Bryan: How did it go over at the time?

Dave: It got a weird reaction even within their own fanbase. Some people loved how far they went with the celebrities, but a lot of the old-school CBWL fans thought it was too “Hollywood” and not nasty enough compared to what they were used to. The tape sold well though — especially once word got out that Pamela actually cried in the back afterward.

Bryan: She cried?

Dave: Yeah. From what I was told, she was really upset after the match. Not because she got beat, but because of how degrading it felt once it was over. She apparently kept saying she didn’t realize how far they were going to take it. Drew was the complete opposite — she was laughing and hyped up like she’d just had the time of her life.

Bryan: And after this?

Dave: Pamela kind of disappeared from the public eye for a while after this tape got out. She was still doing Baywatch at the time, but a lot of people in mainstream circles started treating her differently. She never really shook the image of doing this kind of content.

Drew leaned into the chaos for a bit longer, but even she eventually pulled back. Neither of them ever crossed over into anything legitimate after this. Once you did a match like that in 1995, especially with how explicit it was, a lot of doors closed.

Bryan: So even this early on, they were already using huge names to do the most degrading shit possible… and it basically ended any chance those people had at normal careers afterward.

Dave: Yeah. That was kind of the blueprint they followed for years. Big names, extreme content, and then those names usually stayed stuck in that world or faded out.

Bryan Alvarez: One more. This one’s Sandra Bullock vs Melissa McCarthy in a Toilet Match. “America’s Sweetheart” vs “Queen of the Can.” No DQ, flush or be flushed.

(Bryan shares the poster)

Dave Meltzer: Yeah, this was from the 2011 “Porcelain War” tapings. They actually shot this in an old abandoned high school that had been converted into a CBWL ring area for a few months. The lighting was surprisingly good for what it was — they had those big industrial lights set up and it gave everything this grimy, green tint.

This was one of the first times they really tried to position Melissa McCarthy as a serious monster heel in the division. She was already known for comedy at that point, but they went out of their way to make her look dangerous here. Sandra, on the other hand, was still trying to be taken seriously as an actress, so doing this was a pretty big risk for her image.

Bryan: How was the match?

Dave: It was nasty, even by their standards. They did a lot of head-in-bowl spots and a bunch of messy stuff with the actual toilets. There was one spot where Melissa flushed Sandra’s head while she was still in the bowl and held her down for a long time. Sandra was coughing and spitting up water for a while after that.

The finish was exactly what the poster says — Melissa got Sandra’s head in the bowl, the ref counted it, and then she sat on her face until Sandra tapped out. It wasn’t the longest match they’ve ever done, but it was very effective at what it was trying to do.

Bryan: How were they backstage?

Dave: Sandra was pretty rattled afterward. From what I was told, she was quiet and kept to herself in the back. She wasn’t used to that level of physicality or humiliation. One of the people who was there said she looked like she regretted doing it almost immediately after it was over.

Melissa, on the other hand, was in her element. She was laughing and joking around like it was just another day at work. She was already leaning into that wild, unfiltered persona publicly at the time, so this didn’t really hurt her image the way it did Sandra’s.

Bryan: And after this?

Dave: Sandra kind of pulled back from public appearances for a while after this tape got out. She was still doing movies, but she became a lot more private. A lot of people in Hollywood side-eyed her for doing something this extreme.

Melissa actually leaned into it. She started getting more offers for wild, over-the-top comedy roles after this, and she kind of owned the “I’ll do anything” reputation for a while. But even she never really crossed over into serious dramatic work the way some people expected she might.

Bryan: So even with two pretty big names, doing this kind of match still had consequences for their images and careers.

Dave: Yeah. That’s always been the thing with this company. The bigger the name, the harder it is to come back from doing something like this.